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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:22 am
by Datisi
shut up <.<
i've seen her once when she replaced into a game i was hydraing in. i do know of some other accounts, though.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:25 am
by Irrelephant11
But like maybe acknowledge that you don’t know how scum!ari would play this setup and decide if scum motivations match her actions here without regard for her username? Is my request
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:43 am
by fireisredsir
god dammit i townread
1903
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:52 am
by fireisredsir
BUT
still like idk how for example this post comes from the mena we're seeing now:
In post 1558, Menalque wrote:I’m also saying it now: if I get flipped today and I tell you that I have a high confidence interval in StD scum (or I get to a similarly high confidence interval on someone in coalition)
I want that person flipped tomorrow no questions asked
Ari, look me in the eyes and tell me that’s an unreasonable request given how incredibly right I was last time
i just don't see why town would say this so pre-emptively? but there's like multiple scum benefits to doing so (matching ktane tone to get townread by people who read that, vaguely threatening, projects confidence and a lack of fear of death while at the same time making people less likely to want to lim him)
but he says if he says he has a high confidence interval by the time he gets limmed. i don't think anywhere did he actually say he did have a high confidence interval yet. so why say this as town? it's all just bluster
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 5:46 am
by fireisredsir
In post 1902, Irrelephant11 wrote:Fire, you’re the only one besides std and I who seems to see that anything mena is doing is scummy. Consider why you and std are basically being ignored and I’m collecting votes for making a push you (at least sort of) agree with. Please appeal to those you think are town a little louder, if it’s something you believe in.
i don't trust myself very much and generally feel really bad when i convince people to do something and it ends up being not a good thing :<
ik that's like part of the game of mafia and i should get over it but i don't wanna be a leader rn sorry
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:40 am
by Ydrasse
Irrelephant11 has requested replacement.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:43 am
by Menalque
Well this fuckin sucks
Hope you’re okay, Relly
Sorry if it’s related to me
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:45 am
by Aristeia
In post 1903, Menalque wrote:I'm worried about whether she's also thinking about 5p elo after limming me/relly in either order.
this is just wrong
if anything worrying about 5p is very hand tipping and incredibly stupid for me to do as scum.
if I am scum and you/irrel are t/t I just follow skitter's line and say "oh this is probly not t-t" I have no need to worry about shit
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:46 am
by skitter30
Oh that makes me sad :(
<3 relly
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:47 am
by Menalque
In post 1953, fireisredsir wrote:BUT
still like idk how for example this post comes from the mena we're seeing now:
In post 1558, Menalque wrote:I’m also saying it now: if I get flipped today and I tell you that I have a high confidence interval in StD scum (or I get to a similarly high confidence interval on someone in coalition)
I want that person flipped tomorrow no questions asked
Ari, look me in the eyes and tell me that’s an unreasonable request given how incredibly right I was last time
i just don't see why town would say this so pre-emptively? but there's like multiple scum benefits to doing so (matching ktane tone to get townread by people who read that, vaguely threatening, projects confidence and a lack of fear of death while at the same time making people less likely to want to lim him)
but he says if he says he has a high confidence interval by the time he gets limmed. i don't think anywhere did he actually say he did have a high confidence interval yet. so why say this as town? it's all just bluster
It’s just different headspaces, fire
I’ve felt like I haven’t been pushed for very good reasons and haven’t had the chance to get stuck into the game
It was an ego thing, where if I was going to be mislimmed I at least wanted to know I would get to have some impact in death and sure, it sometimes feels nice to throw my weight around
Trying to break that habit but didn’t manage to when I was on that evening — I’d like to think that the version of myself I am today is who I normally am, but sometimes a form of myself I’m trying to get away from slips back out
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:51 am
by Aristeia
the only slot I really feel any degree of confidence in flipping scum atp is Mala's slot
I dunno if irrel/mena is t/s or t/t, it is very difficult for me to read, I am very susceptible to fatalistic "flip me then him ate"
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:55 am
by Menalque
Ari, I’m just heading out for bjj and I don’t want to turn this game into being about us, but I would really appreciate it if you could point out for me where I made the game unpleasant for you so I can try to avoid doing it again
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:09 am
by fireisredsir
ughhh
i was kinda getting paranoid of datisi and so i went to go reread his scum games to remind myself what that looks like and how ive thought he was town when he's scum before
and came away from it thinking that it doesn't really feel similar to this at all, actually
so now idk what to make of that
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:10 am
by Aristeia
for example here I am trying to get you to calm down
and you're just like shut up I'll do whatever I want.
I don't know if you/irrel are t/t or t/s but when you start getting heated with him it's very hard for me to read into it and lowkey unpleasant to read and it feels like a lot of the time you're saying things to me like "I was right in Ktane so you should let me do whatever I want"
like I was asking you about who is confbiased because I don't understand your worldview and you immediately snapped at me and called me scummy for it?
It's just very exhausting for me to try to talk to you and figure this out and your feedback to me has been downright hostile and I'm not very good at dealing with it and I kind of just want to throw my hands up and not try to sort it.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:12 am
by fireisredsir
i still don't understand who he thought was confbiased
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:17 am
by Aristeia
like you keep implying that I'm angling to vote you and trying to treat you as scum or w/e except I wouldn't even have these criticisms of your play if I didn't think you were doing this as town. Like scum!you is welcome to be as unpleasant as he wants to win and make things difficult for me because that's literally your win condition and you're welcome to do whatever you think is necessary to get there. I would just like it if town!you stopped being so hostile because it's just ick.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:21 am
by Save The Dragons
:<
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:22 am
by Ydrasse
bloodhail has replaced Irrelephant11.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:24 am
by bloodhail
apologies in advance to the scumteam
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:26 am
by bloodhail
mena is obvtown, skitter is obvtown, std is obvtown, fire is probtown though i'd want to read there a little more
coalition scum likely one of dats/ari, lean dats from what i've seen but i need to iso both of them first
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:27 am
by Save The Dragons
i'm looking back at some of the language i used and i think my emotions are seeping through so i apologize if i made the game heated or uncomfortable for people i think this game is pretty intense which is a good thing but it's easy to get lost in emotions and not take a step back and say it's just a game so i apologize for that
@datisi,skitter
1522 i finally got ari to answer this but i just don't see a town!mena doing this to me. yes/no please tell me if i'm wrong for suspecting mena for accusing me of not having a case on him when i can cite evidence where i did
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:28 am
by Save The Dragons
why is mena obvtown
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:34 am
by Aristeia
I do like your choice of alt to replace in on
it is my favorite personality of yours
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:36 am
by bloodhail
because his reads and conviction stem from a real place, he's obviously annoyed at being misread even if he's trying to hold back on it but he's an omgussy boy and that's where the whole elim me and sheep my reads bit is coming in, i dont think thats the approach he takes as scum. hes obv someone who dislikes getting misread (i know b/cfi am too) and thats coming out in his play
hes just town im sorry dude i dont see your issues with him as being scumtells
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:37 am
by bloodhail
In post 1972, Aristeia wrote:I do like your choice of alt to replace in on
it is my favorite personality of yours
i had kinda wanted this to be an aggro alt but instead its the low effort vibes alt