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In post 1972, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:

That was actually half-serious, Fate

Well, okay, it was also a parody of your playstyle and the people who have spinning stuff like that into major cases this game. (I only found that line weird coming from you because you're so black-and-white about your scumreads.)

I know what it was


you can't fake how you interact with me as town

In post 1941, Cheery Dog wrote: Is that the bit I forgot to add in, that you had no reasoning behind the flips of that read.
Although you've kind of added one now, it still doesn't mean much about why you moved them to town in the first place.

so lemme get this straight, you are suspecting me because I did not give a reason at the time even tho you didn't question me but you voted me without giving a reason until iceyrent asked you?

I. Have. No. Words.

But thanks for confirming that you've been looking at waffles as someone you're unsure of, but still trying to pin their buddies.

this doesn't even make sense.

your premise was that I knew eaglekits was town or something or mebbe it was waffles but I was looking for some1 who was I knew was town's scumbuddies I mean do you even see the problem here? you are not asking me for my read progression you are fabricating some nonsense and trying to assert that it must be true.

IF YOU PEOPLE DON'T SEE THIS I AM LOSING ALL FAITH IN HUMANITY AND IT WILL BE ALL OF Y'ALL'S FAULT!!!!!!

@ iceyrent

thanks, I am there, I think I was viewing all of that at the time through a heavy lens of bias. moving them to my town pile unless other info indicates otherwise.

how strong is your townread on pie?

eta: (((reck)))

also ut I wasn't trying to ignore your point about your meta, for instance in anything goes mastina said she felt confident about her early reads cos she was good in the early part of the game when in pikman we went over our strengths and weaknesses and his weakness was early game and strength was late game analysis. <---- people's confidence level or skill evaluation does not change like that without a major quantum leap in a game and he didn't have 1 I checked.

so it is more about how some1 reasons things out. my read on you is not a meta read, I haven't figured you out yet. cheery however IS a meta read, i am telling you he is better than this. I only pattern match occasionally and I will say "this is a weak meta read".

I think I grokked that

talk to me more about cheery

we're still busy, this thread is still meh, and fate+waffles are both still town

cheery wrote:Is that who was bussing waffles earlier?

cheery wrote:Waffles usually being bussed comment without naming who was possibly bussing. It reminded me of my first encounter of her where she was caught out as scum by hunting for a buddy of a person she was refusing to vote.

I know this was from forever ago/i forgot to follow up on this but I still don't understand what the purpose of the original question was. she'd expressed suspicion of waffles (strongly) and this slot at the time; did you think she was going to say no??

also idg how the reasoning behind your nuwen suspicion is necessarily an alignment tell

so are we going to dick around some more because I'm starting to get bored

I wanna lynch somethiiing D: /tristana

@mollie - I think what Cheery is trying to say is that you're claiming you're unsure of Waffles but still trying to 'pin her scumbuddies'. I get what he's getting at, I think. haven't exactly been following that convo so whether you actually did that or not IDK but still.

I assume you think Cheery is scum? (basing this off that recent post because again: not paying attn). because I understand the logic there if he meant what I think he meant and that feels like it's coming from a town mindset

@cheery - do you think scum-mollie would push that hard on CDB after AD got lynched?

pedit - hi 11. you guys really still wanting to lynch YNGO or could you find a more productive wagon to join

put in the bare minimum effort into the game to reread ut and he's still town

i feel the need to mention that eagle is a person we can probably lynch without another 30 pages of words exploding out from every participating orifice of the game

In post 1979, Untrod Tripod wrote:I think I grokked that

talk to me more about cheery

In post 1981, InflatablePie wrote:so are we going to dick around some more because I'm starting to get bored

I wanna lynch somethiiing D: /tristana

@mollie - I think what Cheery is trying to say is that you're claiming you're unsure of Waffles but still trying to 'pin her scumbuddies'. I get what he's getting at, I think. haven't exactly been following that convo so whether you actually did that or not IDK but still.

I had them as potential scumbuddies when I thought waffles was scum. I have been saying that I am leaving waffles to other people and now I have moved them to town. but cheery is trying to push that when I was unsure that I was trying to push that eagle creatures were a scumbuddy and that isn't true. I should go back and look cos I thought that he said that I *knew* eagle creatures were town or something. this is why it doesn't make sense he is changing the trajectory to fit a narrative that doesn't exist.

I assume you think Cheery is scum? (basing this off that recent post because again: not paying attn). because I understand the logic there if he meant what I think he meant and that feels like it's coming from a town mindset

pie, why are you asking me questions if you are not paying attention? like really. the whole will be unproductive until you do.

yes I have cheery as scum.

Time for a flash wagon people will give a shit about




see you soon Reck

In post 1977, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1941, Cheery Dog wrote: Is that the bit I forgot to add in, that you had no reasoning behind the flips of that read.
Although you've kind of added one now, it still doesn't mean much about why you moved them to town in the first place.

so lemme get this straight, you are suspecting me because I did not give a reason at the time even tho you didn't question me but you voted me without giving a reason until iceyrent asked you?

I. Have. No. Words.

Post 1259

In post 1977, pirate mollie wrote:

In post 1941, Cheery Dog wrote:

But thanks for confirming that you've been looking at waffles as someone you're unsure of, but still trying to pin their buddies.

this doesn't even make sense.

your premise was that I knew eaglekits was town or something or mebbe it was waffles but I was looking for some1 who was I knew was town's scumbuddies I mean do you even see the problem here? you are not asking me for my read progression you are fabricating some nonsense and trying to assert that it must be true.

You told me back when this first occured that you moved eaglekit back to scum because Waffles had asked them a question.
As far as I see, you don't and didn't actually have a read from a town perspective on Waffles, but just someone that you could possibly get lynched.

But I'm actually sick of dealing with this now, so can everybody just lynch mollie so I can stop worrying about how we're not lynching scum?

In post 1980, Eleven wrote:we're still busy, this thread is still meh, and fate+waffles are both still town

cheery wrote:Is that who was bussing waffles earlier?

cheery wrote:Waffles usually being bussed comment without naming who was possibly bussing. It reminded me of my first encounter of her where she was caught out as scum by hunting for a buddy of a person she was refusing to vote.

I know this was from forever ago/i forgot to follow up on this but I still don't understand what the purpose of the original question was. she'd expressed suspicion of waffles (strongly) and this slot at the time; did you think she was going to say no??

also idg how the reasoning behind your nuwen suspicion is necessarily an alignment tell

I hadn't read the usually at the time of the question and was just trying to follow through one of Waffle's questions that mollie had ignored which was effecting my read. It's like a lot of my questions, I don't know where they're going until they're answered.

It possibly isn't, but the only time I've seen someone claim that they were right about a flipped third party was from scum. (although he did it in the scum qt). I was guessing that it was therefore a universal scum tell, as town have no reason to brag about something as simple as reading someone (who claimed in this case) correctly and expecting anything from it. It's a forced "read me as town I'm correct" message, that I'd expect from people already mostly in the know. The whole thing about AD's team entirely bussing him also makes me feel uneasy.
They could be there, but with obvious scum, there's no easy votes about it. (I only didn't vote because I still wanted time to attempt to firm up some other reads (as they were all lacking) and I think the hammer had been placed by the time I got there.)

In post 1981, InflatablePie wrote: @cheery - do you think scum-mollie would push that hard on CDB after AD got lynched?

Not very hard at all? I don't recall Mollie really pushing CDB except at the start of day 1.

In post 1984, Fate wrote:Time for a flash wagon people will give a shit about

Unvote:
Vote: CheeryDog

see you soon Reck

I don't give a shit about that, why would other people?

we're not lynching mollie or cheery dog.

@mollie - paying attention is for losers. the "I have no words" and some other part of your posts sounded like you were just being condescending so I thought you might have had a slim townread on him or something I dunno

@cheery - stop making me put in effort. 1202...

wait. he's in her townreads list on late D1.

oh fuck me I'm an idiot.

nevermind that then, I fail at picking up sarcasm + I blended D1 in with D2. ignore me pls

its like reverse beetlejuice.... I say Cheery dogs name and he appears three times lol

In post 1985, Cheery Dog wrote:

In post 1977, pirate mollie wrote: Post 1259

I missed that post!

I'm not aware of eaglekit posting between either of these posts, can you explain how this read has developed since yesterday?

because I was wondering if I was putting them as town for the wrong reasons.

the stickiness of their scumread doesn't make sense. neither does yours.

In post 1985, Cheery Dog wrote:You told me back when this first occured that you moved eaglekit back to scum because Waffles had asked them a question.
As far as I see, you don't and didn't actually have a read from a town perspective on Waffles, but just someone that you could possibly get lynched.

is that why you voted them?

But I'm actually sick of dealing with this now, so can everybody just lynch mollie so I can stop worrying about how we're not lynching scum?

except I am not scum? why are you squirming? like I said your attempted trajectories don't make sense cos they are based upon me "knowing" some1 is town but still looking for scumbuddies on a townread while ignoring the messy misunderstandings, the rethinking, reevaluating and the progression of those reads and

re: triforce

I would hardly call it bragging that I thought that they were telling the truth and I may be mistaken but a bunch of other people thought that too!

I can't tell if this is a genuine misunderstanding and you really are having that hard of a time following what I am saying or if you are scum pushing an angle that doesn't fit.

what bugs me is that you have not even been trying to figure me out except for that 1 question that I missed which does give me pause. its like you are missing huge chunks of why I think the way I do and you didn't try to clarify except for that 1 question.

and I am still unclear as to who you thought that I *knew* was town and was trying to find their scumbuddies.

its like you have never played with me before and don't that I often refit things, backtrack, reevaluate after new intrhead info or something.

In post 1985, Cheery Dog wrote: Post 1259

I missed that post!

I'm not aware of eaglekit posting between either of these posts, can you explain how this read has developed since yesterday?

because I was wondering if I was putting them as town for the wrong reasons.

the stickiness of their scumread doesn't make sense. neither does yours.

You told me back when this first occured that you moved eaglekit back to scum because Waffles had asked them a question.
As far as I see, you don't and didn't actually have a read from a town perspective on Waffles, but just someone that you could possibly get lynched.

is that why you voted them?

But I'm actually sick of dealing with this now, so can everybody just lynch mollie so I can stop worrying about how we're not lynching scum?

except I am not scum? why are you squirming? like I said your attempted trajectories don't make sense cos they are based upon me "knowing" some1 is town but still looking for scumbuddies on a townread while ignoring the messy misunderstandings, the rethinking, reevaluating and the progression of those reads and

re: triforce

I would hardly call it bragging that I thought that they were telling the truth and I may be mistaken but a bunch of other people thought that too!

I can't tell if this is a genuine misunderstanding and you really are having that hard of a time following what I am saying or if you are scum pushing an angle that doesn't fit.

what bugs me is that you have not even been trying to figure me out except for that 1 question that I missed which does give me pause. its like you are missing huge chunks of why I think the way I do and you didn't try to clarify except for that 1 question.

and I am still unclear as to who you thought that I *knew* was town and was trying to find their scumbuddies.

its like you have never played with me before and don't that I often refit things, backtrack, reevaluate after new intrhead info or something.

In post 1992, pirate mollie wrote:

@ mods - plz delete broken tags post

lol, this 1 too

In post 1989, Fate wrote:its like reverse beetlejuice.... I say Cheery dogs name and he appears three times lol

It probably helps if you ninja the first post.

cbf quoting

I posted your name in there and you decided to ask me if I were scum, and now you "missed that post"? wtf

My day 1 reads were everywhere. I believe my vote on Waffles was explained as crap back when I voted them.

Triforce thing was Nuwen.

I'm calling you scum, ergo you know Waffles is not on your team, ergo you know they're town.

In post 1995, Cheery Dog wrote:cbf quoting

I posted your name in there and you decided to ask me if I were scum, and now you "missed that post"? wtf

My day 1 reads were everywhere. I believe my vote on Waffles was explained as crap back when I voted them.

Triforce thing was Nuwen.

I'm calling you scum, ergo you know Waffles is not on your team, ergo you know they're town.

circular reasoning is circular.

VOTE: Cheery Dog

I can dig it.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I think eagle's more likely to be scum than cheery but cheery's prooobably fine?