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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:12 pm
by TheWayItEnds
Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?


your character name was supposed to change.

ask jason to reconfirm your char name?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:14 pm
by TheWayItEnds
although anen should also verify that his shot was used/not used as well.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:42 pm
by Randomnamechange
I think spider Gwen is town based off of anen's ability as she is alive. If that is the case my apologies for scumresding you yesterday gwen.
T S O wrote:I propose we lynch in the pool of {Alchemist, random, grapes} today, seeing as that was Spifflop's pool of scum.

Spifflop said not to lynch me as I'd sort myself out over time...

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:46 pm
by TheWayItEnds
...

thats maybe the worst post in the game.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:51 pm
by Passionate Storm
Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?



Hi buddy.

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Let's handle the end of day bussers shall we?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:51 pm
by T S O
True, but that was only because they were agreeing with me. I still agree with the statement, but it was also said to ensure maximum focus was upon Klingon.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:51 pm
by Passionate Storm
TheWayItEnds wrote:...

thats maybe the worst post in the game.


Concur.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:55 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:Why are you voting Errant, Eagle?

And yeah, any time soon is fine. I'd like answers, but it's less urgent now that Klingon's finally been lynched.

Ill try to get to them before I sleep tonight.

EP was noticeably without stance on Klingon and certain posts pinged my scumdar. I'll case him later. Maybe tomorrow or something.
Passionate Storm wrote:
Spider Gwen wrote:@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?



Hi buddy.

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Let's handle the end of day bussers shall we?


Yeah that was nasty. Very nasty disgusting. But. I had him as strongish town yesterday. I might have been wrong. I'll look at that again. Let me reexamine here but I am not sure he's scum.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:26 pm
by Passionate Storm
Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:31 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?


He didn't sheep people.
He took a strong stance.
He paid attention.
He was largely ignored.
He was reasonable.
He got frustrated.
My gut says he was genuine. He certainly seemed so.
He was smart.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:34 pm
by Passionate Storm
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?


He didn't sheep people.
He took a strong stance.
He paid attention.
He was largely ignored.
He was reasonable.
He got frustrated.
My gut says he was genuine. He certainly seemed so.
He was smart.


Personality
Personality
Indication of skill and desire (see TPTG)
That's solely indicative of Charisma of players
Disagree
Scum indicator. Things weren't going his way so he was frustrated because we lynched their encryptor.
Gut... Bleh
Null tell. I have seen dumb town.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:36 pm
by T S O
I could easily see scum-Jaqen balancing his desire to not stand out from the crowd with his desire to keep his team's Encryptor alive, and deciding that the latter outweighed the former.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:38 pm
by T S O
I also think that Fresh's stances have been a little odd - I didn't really like his answer to the Klingon-Spiff issue I was prodding him about, nor was I enthused about the way he apparently was always scumreading Klingon, but decided to let Jaqen trumpet the Spifflop wagon instead, right until it was 100% certain that Klingon was going to die.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:39 pm
by T S O
My thoughts on the Serial Killer is that they're probably one of my townreads, but I don't plan to go SK-hunting any time soon, so meh.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:43 pm
by T S O
Aunt Jemina wrote:
T S O wrote:AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.
I simply do not see Exxy's posting as sour. There is also the fact that prior to the Spiffyloppy counterwagon to Celty, there was an Exxy counterwagon to Celty. Almost identical names, even. That is as much as I can really say.


Talk to me about this? Going back through votecounts, I can only find one EE wagon at 4 votes, and it seems to contain many of my townreads, and very few of the names on the Spifflop counterwagon.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:45 pm
by Passionate Storm
T S O wrote:My thoughts on the Serial Killer is that they're probably one of my townreads, but I don't plan to go SK-hunting any time soon, so meh.


Why so sure on SK?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:47 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?


He didn't sheep people.
He took a strong stance.
He paid attention.
He was largely ignored.
He was reasonable.
He got frustrated.
My gut says he was genuine. He certainly seemed so.
He was smart.


Personality
Personality
Indication of skill and desire (see TPTG)
That's solely indicative of Charisma of players
Disagree
Scum indicator. Things weren't going his way so he was frustrated because we lynched their encryptor.
Gut... Bleh
Null tell. I have seen dumb town.

Yep. But a personality that does this as town, not scum IMO. Give me a game where he follows this pattern as scum.
See response above.
Yep. Desire follows what I understand town to desire.
Disagree. That's only partially determinant, imo.
You're allowed to.
Town indicator. He was certain they were scum and it frustrated him that people would ignore him for a townish read of his.
I can go into detail about this but it's complicated so I'm going to continue to say gut because if I tried to explain I'd get misrepresented.
Null tell in and of itself. But add that to his play following this.

Still. I need to look at him again. He might have been lying at the end there. My town tell was up until the spifflop wagon and honestly I'm thinking that 1. He wouldn't strongarm and nk spiffy to frame himself, but 2- his post spiffy wagon falling apart spontaneous reads pinged my scumdar as well. So since my town read of him is not a hundred percent up to date Ill check in with you in a minute. I do have to say that I don't like how neither you nor tso was nkd. Makes me nervous. But you know. I need to think.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:48 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm reconsider tso for a moment please.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:48 pm
by T S O
Passionate Storm wrote:
T S O wrote:My thoughts on the Serial Killer is that they're probably one of my townreads, but I don't plan to go SK-hunting any time soon, so meh.


Why so sure on SK?


Kill flavour seems to fit with Spifflop being shot as a Mafia kill, and Pip being stabbed as the SK kill.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:51 pm
by T S O
That said, in YCBA II Jason's SK flavour was an execution. But, being stabbed remains standard SK modus operandi.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:54 pm
by Passionate Storm
@TSO flavor doesn't say stabbed.

@EE, What would you do if a little birde said Dapper was guilty?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:56 pm
by T S O
Isn't it essentially the same thing?

What's your alternative explanation, then?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:59 pm
by Passionate Storm
T S O wrote:Isn't it essentially the same thing?

What's your alternative explanation, then?


Don't have one. I just don't like jumping to conclusions and had to check if you were more informed than I in a scummy way.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:00 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:@TSO flavor doesn't say stabbed.

@EE, What would you do if a little birde said Dapper was guilty?


I enjoy listening to little birds. I am a bird myself, after all, and birds of a feather must fly together. Little birds can many a time see things below the canvas of trees that I cannot see as well up here. I think if a little bird was certain that dapper was scum, I would help the little one in dapper s lynch.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:02 pm
by TheWayItEnds
because that kill makes no sense as a vig kill is a good place to start i think.