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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:30 pm
by Cerberus v666
Ranger wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Oh, also, ranger...please explain what about the posts of FS you've seen makes you feel they're scum.
Ahg. If you had asked this earlier, I would have done it, but I don't have the time anymore. :(

I don't even think I have the time to track down the explanations, some from me, some from others, on them. I'm sorry, I know I should especially given the current wagons, but I really
do
need to log off. :/

It's fine. Blah. My fault for letting myself get so disengaged here.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:36 pm
by Ranger
Tammy wrote:I'll have to check back though, I thi she recently did the not claiming today as scum.
I think I did, too.

I can't remember which game (which is odd, I only have 8, you'd think I would but I don't), but I think I did. Maybe Machina?

Final thing before I go: {Tammy, SirCakez, beeboy, Amihan, Cerberus v666, The Pied Piper, Sakura Hana}
{Skybird, pistachi0n, podoboq}
{Spiffeh, davesaz}
{The Wrong Lynch}
{dramonic, SnarkySnowman}
{Axelrod, True Ogre}
{tictac}
{Friendless Seniors, Mirhawk}

The changes here are Pied Piper and Sakura Hana going to untouchable town, me feeling better about The Wrong Lynch (no specific reason why, just a general thing), and davesaz getting knocked down a tier. This is mainly because I feel like he should know I'm town this game. He's seen me as scum
twice
. He's also seen me as town many times. He should be aware this is not like the scum games, yet he is pushing me anyway and in spite of me answering his call, his vote remains, unchanged, with no additional reason and no additional response, similar to Spiffeh in that regard.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:46 pm
by True Ogre
The Pied Piper wrote:VOTE: Friendless Seniors L-4

There's still time to make this happen.

Well the hero returneth.

What do you mean "There's still time" when you yourself voted Ranger before I left for work today, tipping the balance? Seriously.

VOTE: Seniors

Also, Cerberus, I don't think you've as much as sneezed in my direction before. Saying that I created two wagons you're not interested in is crap and I think you know that.

*grgrrrgrrrrhmmm*

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:47 pm
by True Ogre
Cerberus v666 wrote:Actually, let's rephrase that. I believe ranger is town. I lack sufficient cause to believe FS is scum. That's a very important distinction to make.

So your choice is no-lynch.
Seems to favour scum, no?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:49 pm
by Tammy
*Tttttwwwwwwwwiiiiiitttttttcccccchhhhhhhh*

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:52 pm
by True Ogre
Tammy wrote:One more word about where my vote is and I'm leaving it there and not moving it for the day.

I don't think that anyone with any experience at this game actually believes that because people aren't voting on a major wagon in a large theme on day one is because they are trying to force a no lynch through, especially when they say they'll be back before deadline. Therefore, it's looking a bit suspicious to me, like ogre is trying to look to proton by being tooooo concerned about the lynch. EGADS we only have 14 hours left whatever shall we dooooooooooooooo?????????

I think I like rangers last posts, but I only very quickly skimmed. I'll have to check back though, I thi she recently did the not claiming today as scum. I could totally be remembering that wrong, so don't me to this. More a reminder to myself to look back after work. Wouldn't mind a claim from friendless though!

And with that I'm off to work!

If you want to no-lynch, fine, great.
Fun times tomorrow when we're in the same boat with some obvtownie or town lurker dead.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:54 pm
by True Ogre
Tammy wrote:*Tttttwwwwwwwwiiiiiitttttttcccccchhhhhhhh*

Twitch your heart out Tammy, you had a great entrance and then just left the game and the rest of us hanging for input. Of any kind. I don't know where I'm at, at all, with either of you or Mala at this stage and it's not a nice feeling.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:58 pm
by Cerberus v666
True Ogre wrote:
The Pied Piper wrote:VOTE: Friendless Seniors L-4

There's still time to make this happen.

Well the hero returneth.

What do you mean "There's still time" when you yourself voted Ranger before I left for work today, tipping the balance? Seriously.

VOTE: Seniors

Also, Cerberus, I don't think you've as much as sneezed in my direction before. Saying that I created two wagons you're not interested in is crap and I think you know that.

*grgrrrgrrrrhmmm*


Umm, clearly? I wasn't referring to you specifically. I was referring to the game as a whole.

You haven't done anything notable to be a driving force behind either of these wagons, and I can't imagine why you'd think I would believe you were to blame for them. If anything, I blame myself for not being involved enough to find alternatives that I actually believe to be scummy.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:59 pm
by Tammy
I couldn't care less what your read on me is.

I do care that you seem to be trying to look busy right now with the oh noes people are forcing a no lynch. I know you're experienced at this game, so I don't believe for one second it's a genuine fear, I think you're trying to look busy.

I don't believe for one second you see all these people posting in the game being very aware of deadline, talking about and to the major wagons, and your big fear is we are going to no lynch. I don't believe that for a second.

And that is a pretty gross exaggeration. I am not overprinting, sure, but you have my input and a heck of enough from me to read me on. You don't need me to lead this game day one, that's never been my forte.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:00 am
by Cerberus v666
True Ogre wrote:
Cerberus v666 wrote:Actually, let's rephrase that. I believe ranger is town. I lack sufficient cause to believe FS is scum. That's a very important distinction to make.

So your choice is no-lynch.
Seems to favour scum, no?

Cerberus v666 wrote:

The ranger wagon is absurd and terrible. That would be why I'm not supporting it. Not agreeing with the belief that FS has had scummy posting is why I'm not on that wagon.

You've created a situation where you have two people I believe to be town on the verge of being lynched.
A no lynch isn't better than that, but I'm certainly not going to pile on and build momentum towards either one.


Also, ranger, I'm sad that you think I'm so bad at scum that I couldn't fake 875. Was Open 623 that terrible? I was super distracted and not invested in that game at all, if that makes it any better. :(

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:01 am
by Tammy
Like true ogre a more efficient use of this "drive" to make sure a lynch went through would be to get people in the lynch you believe in, but this abstract fear or accusation of people pushing a no lynch is nothing more than busy work designed to look town.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:02 am
by Cerberus v666
Tammy wrote:I couldn't care less what your read on me is.

I do care that you seem to be trying to look busy right now with the oh noes people are forcing a no lynch. I know you're experienced at this game, so I don't believe for one second it's a genuine fear, I think you're trying to look busy.

I don't believe for one second you see all these people posting in the game being very aware of deadline, talking about and to the major wagons, and your big fear is we are going to no lynch. I don't believe that for a second.


And that is a pretty gross exaggeration. I am not overprinting, sure, but you have my input and a heck of enough from me to read me on. You don't need me to lead this game day one, that's never been my forte.

Seconded.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:03 am
by True Ogre
I want you to be not voting a wagon which has precisely one vote with something like 12 hours to deadline.

If you haven't figured out who I am by now I'm sure it doesn't even matter but I'd usually be advocating deciding on a lych with half the dayphase through because last minute bullshit is not my favourite part of any game and especially not larges. Closest we've been to a lynch was when I just voted Ranger to L-2. Then claims and fucking bullshit like that.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:04 am
by Tammy
I could be a bit biased here as the last time someone accused me of trying to push a no lynch, they were scum trying to look busy and cast suspicion.

So, game related stuff instead of busy work yeah?

Oh also nice deflection when I point out my concern. Gotta love that.

Running late, gotta go. I'll be back before deadline which is tomorrow night at midnight, right? ;p

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:05 am
by True Ogre
Real good unique input there Cerberus.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:06 am
by True Ogre
Yeah it's like 11am tomorrow my time and it's currently 9pm.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:08 am
by True Ogre
Also I didn't get your concern. All I got was "True Ogre ur so horrid for calling me out for not picking a wagon. Of course everything will be neatly tied up with 3.5% of the dayphase left"

Anyway you're not Black Widow anymore. You can be little miss muffet.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:10 am
by Cerberus v666
I am the person in this game most likely to be here at deadline. Always. No matter what. In every game ever. But I'm not going to vote for someone who I don't have cause to think is scum, until, quite literally, 5 minutes before deadlne.

And I'll be here at that time.

And eh, sure, it's not unique, but it's still true. The shade you're would casting is wasted on me though. I would advise looking elsewhere if you want to find someone who you can actually get lynched at some point in the future. :p

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:11 am
by Cerberus v666
Ugh I hate mobile posting. I always think of things to add and forget to remove words. :)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:13 am
by Tammy
True Ogre wrote:I want you to be not voting a wagon which has precisely one vote with something like 12 hours to deadline.

If you haven't figured out who I am by now I'm sure it doesn't even matter but I'd usually be advocating deciding on a lych with half the dayphase through because last minute bullshit is not my favourite part of any game and especially not larges. Closest we've been to a lynch was when I just voted Ranger to L-2. Then claims and fucking bullshit like that.


If you were arguing it this way, I wouldn't be suspicious. But you're not. You're not talking about how much you hate deadline wagons or that you'd like it decided earlier. You're accusing people of trying to force a no lynch, which is something I don't believe you believe for one second, and since I don't believe you believe that I think you're trying to look busy and engaged, but it doesn't ring true.

You can want all you want about my vote but I'll move when I want to move it and not a second before.

(If you think I should have figured you out then you should have knowledge of me, and therefore would know that arguing with me about my vote or hell even talking about my vote to me isn't going to get you anyway.)

And now I really really have to go.

I have no idea what the black widow miss muffet reference is.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:14 am
by Rob14
Vote Count #1.25:


Friendless Seniors:
SnarkySnowman, podoboq, Skybird, Ranger, tictac, Axelrod, The Pied Piper, True Ogre (8)
Ranger:
davesaz, Amihan, Mirhawk, Friendless Seniors, Spiffeh, Sakura Hana, beeboy (7)
Mirhawk:
THE WRONG LYNCH, Cerberus v666, SirCakez (3)
SirCakez:
Tammy (1)
Skybird:
pistachi0n (1)
Axelrod:
dramonic (1)

Not Voting:
None.

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.


V/LA:
None.

Deadline:
(expired on 2016-04-06 21:00:00)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:15 am
by True Ogre
Yeah right Cerberus. I just loooove casting dem shades.

VOTE: Cakez

Sheeping the correct player obviously. Unconcerned with securing a lynch today, it'll be fine.

Pre-edit
Okay cool. I came back in to look busy, because I already know that both lynches are on town? Is that the crux there Tammy?


See you after work then.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:15 am
by Tammy
OH NOOOOOOO DEADLINE IS SOOOOOO CLOSE.

We one wagon and l4 and one wagon at l3. We're gonna no lynch. Fuck whatever shall we do.

I'm gonna go cry and eat my tuffet :(

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:16 am
by Rob14
Amihan has been prodded.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:20 am
by True Ogre
I *think* I've played with you just the once before, quite a long time ago.ut you and I had a sorta-sync at the time which I'm not really *not* seeing this game but I just expected a bit more of my own feeling on lynches close to deadline. I want everyone with vanity votes to explain why.

I guess I'll crawl back into my personal hell now noting that you and Cerberus have both at least stated positions.