Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

This. I find it Interesting Nero wants a short day, but is not on Yuri, not giving his reads, and not pushing A and N despite me giving him a one shot pass to be as abusive as he wants in telling me every read.

this is hot garbage.

[Spiffeh]

Thought we were friends. Now you're just being an ass.

We are friends

I am more likely to act like an ass to my friends than people I don't care about

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee, Caesar, Drix, Elbrin, Frog, Kyouko, Max, Nero, ooba, Sondam, and PV

[Fro99er]

Thought we were friends. Now you're just being an ass.

We are friends

I am more likely to act like an ass to my friends than people I don't care about

Well in that case I still love you

[PeregrineV]

I still haven't checked Fro99er's case, I'm sure that will upset him.

I am extremely tempted to continue ignoring Yuri out of spite.

Then screw you.

Thought we were friends. Now you're just being an ass.

Callback

[The DEO]

{ }
{A+N, DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Creature, LUV}
{Drixx, Vecna}
{Spiff}
{ABR, ooba, ssbm, Nero, Caesar} <-- null line
{Sondam, Leonshade} (not together)
{Notice}
{Maxous,Beeboy}
{}
{Yuri}

A+N, DEO, Frogger, Drixx
Elbrin, Vecna, LUV

Notice, beeboy
Null Line --- Spiffeh (dropped dramatically due to recent posting)
Sodham, Leonshade, ooba, Caesar, Maxous (unlynchable bc Math's biggest TR), PV, SSM (PV unlynchable due to math and TRs TRing him)
ABR, Nero (Math thinks these two are dumb, I do not)

Yuri

[Spiffeh]

Dropping me as a town read for not talking about Yuri is stupid and you should feel bad

[Lil Uzi Vert]

ABR is not playing dumb, not even close.

[The DEO]

This. I find it Interesting Nero wants a short day, but is not on Yuri, not giving his reads, and not pushing A and N despite me giving him a one shot pass to be as abusive as he wants in telling me every read.

this is hot garbage.

I am still waiting for your reads Nero. My ears are open. Confirmed town (Math) thinks I am an idiot on you. The best way to persuade me Math is worth listening to is giving reads.

[The DEO]

Dropping me as a town read for not talking about Yuri is stupid and you should feel bad

Why? It's a major concern of mine you refuse to address.

[The DEO]

ABR is not playing dumb, not even close.

I agree, which is why ISR him.

[Fro99er]

Titus talk to me about ABR. I always think he's scum, and he always thinks i'm scum (despite us being town together in every game we've played) so I'm trying not to let my biases against him take over.

[PeregrineV]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee,

Caesar

, Drix,

Elbrin

, Frog,

Kyouko

, Max, Nero,

ooba

, Sondam, and PV

If you want to set the standard at "providing minimally acceptable content to not be lynched today", can you provide a sentence or two on why the bolded have made the list?

[Fro99er]

Dropping me as a town read for not talking about Yuri is stupid and you should feel bad

I really don't feel bad at all. You would have been in my top townline with the other people I listed, but now you're close to my null line.

[Spiffeh]

I voted ssbm_Kyouko because a lot of their posts comment on fringe shit that doesn't matter and don't really walk away with any worthwhile conclusions. One such post that stuck out to me was this one:

The impression I got from reading that conversation is you bullied him into a corner and it was really not cool but if you're convinced on your meta read I guess that's fine. I'm really uncomfortable with how easily Vecna and frogger shifted onto yuri and how they both gave their reasons as bussing to antagonize The DEO hydra. I think Frogger had a real case earlier about Yuri appeasing Titus or something and I guess Vecna said he liked that case though.

He devotes a lot of words and ultimately walks away with a non-opinion.

I also have an issue with how he has been parked on beeboy all day. Not in the read itself, but the fact that he's done no pressuring or trying to convince people to vote his way. Even when I went hard after beeboy, ssbm didn't say a thing and continued to make irrelevant posts that don't even look like he's trying to develop reads.

[Spiffeh]

OK FROG I'LL LOOK AT IT NOW

[The DEO]

Titus talk to me about ABR. I always think he's scum, and he always thinks i'm scum (despite us being town together in every game we've played) so I'm trying not to let my biases against him take over.

That's why I am not pushing ABR today myself. Let's just say I view ABR as a reason you siteflaked. He's the type of player who calls his scumbuddies retarded. The total lack of fight from ABR is wierd, so I am inviting him in one post to tell me where I am dumb.

[PeregrineV]

OK FROG I'LL LOOK AT IT NOW

Totally read this like this:

[Spiffeh]

3) In 931 Yuri wants to placate Titus, and it appears he doesn't want to ruffle titus' feathers. It's super appeasing type stuff like scum not wanting to stand out. Yuri says in 940 that yes he is trying to placate Titus because Titus is probtown pushing them. However, later on in 1248 Yuri sorts Uzi as town and Yuri says he doesn't care about Uzi's push on him. It's a contradiction, so Yuri needs to explain why Titus push did matter but Uzi push didn't.

This is a good point. I can see scum!Yuri noticing that Titus is an influential, obvtown player that would be good to get on his soon and agree that he looks overly apologetic and really worried about stepping on her toes.

[Vecna]

Drixx is taking the treestump.
There is no reason for anyone else to take it

Whoever takes treestump needs to be lynched or vigged as soon as possible.

Town won't give a shit, since they are still in the game, and if scum then they have no vote and won't count against our numbers and will probably not bother posting anyway.

PV, Drixx is taking the treestump and has asked to be cop investigated so he can be a permanent confirmed town voice.
As of now, that's the plan.

Yeah, and that makes sense to you?

I don't see a cop investigation wonder, so how will this be accomplished?

He can be a permanent confirmed town voice by coming in here and be town and stuff.

Stonehenge.

Thereby forcing the one cop investigative to stay locked on one player?

Nah. If Drixx wants no competition for treestump, he can come in and town the shit out of the thread.

Agreed

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee,

Caesar

, Drix,

Elbrin

, Frog,

Kyouko

, Max, Nero,

ooba

, Sondam, and PV

If you want to set the standard at "providing minimally acceptable content to not be lynched today", can you provide a sentence or two on why the bolded have made the list?

I've ignored most of Caesar's posts because Pine is just being purposely cringe and I want to see what the Aero head has to say.

Elbrin because his catch-up posts feel genuine rather than just rushed and thrown together to make it seem like he's been busy.

There is not enough content from ooba for anyone to want him lynched today.

Kyouko because I can read him fairly easily and I understood where he was coming from when he explained why he didn't want to be a part of the Yuri wagon.

[The DEO]

Drixx is taking the treestump.
There is no reason for anyone else to take it

Whoever takes treestump needs to be lynched or vigged as soon as possible.

Town won't give a shit, since they are still in the game, and if scum then they have no vote and won't count against our numbers and will probably not bother posting anyway.

PV, Drixx is taking the treestump and has asked to be cop investigated so he can be a permanent confirmed town voice.
As of now, that's the plan.

Yeah, and that makes sense to you?

I don't see a cop investigation wonder, so how will this be accomplished?

He can be a permanent confirmed town voice by coming in here and be town and stuff.

Stonehenge.

Thereby forcing the one cop investigative to stay locked on one player?

Nah. If Drixx wants no competition for treestump, he can come in and town the shit out of the thread.

Agreed

He has to me. The suggestion itself, combined with locking himself into building Pyramids is pretty fucking town.

The only scenario I can see Drixx as scum is rather moonlogicky AND he would be caught be stonehenge.

Scum burning themselves with no guarantee a follow the cop setup does not arise is dumb.

[Spiffeh]

5) Yuri says they have issues with A+N in 952 and when pressed on what the issue is by A+N in 953 it turns out that it's the same prior issue from 941 and 943. Reading those two posts, we see it's because Yuri doesn't like A+N is pressing Sondam about whether Sondam thought titus slipped or contradicted herself. That's perfectly legitimate reason to pressure Sondam, to find out if they meant contradict or slip (or both, as it turns out). Because contradict and slip can have different meanings. It's a bullshit issue to have with A+N. (to read more about it, read my 1275 which explains it better than I just did here)

I don't think it's that weird for Yuri to have an issue with this. What I think is more compelling is the fact that earlier on, Yuri has a town read on A&N yet once they arguing the read morphs into a scum read.

[The DEO]

PV, why should I be TRing you? Everywhere I go, you seem to be trying to derail me.

[PeregrineV]

Not touching today: A&N, Bee,

Caesar

, Drix,

Elbrin

, Frog,

Kyouko

, Max, Nero,

ooba

, Sondam, and PV

If you want to set the standard at "providing minimally acceptable content to not be lynched today", can you provide a sentence or two on why the bolded have made the list?

I've ignored most of Caesar's posts because Pine is just being purposely cringe and I want to see what the Aero head has to say.

Elbrin because his catch-up posts feel genuine rather than just rushed and thrown together to make it seem like he's been busy.

There is not enough content from ooba for anyone to want him lynched today.

Kyouko because I can read him fairly easily and I understood where he was coming from when he explained why he didn't want to be a part of the Yuri wagon.

- Fair enough, but hiding behind the pomp and circumstance of roleplaying when there are 80+ pages of content bugs me.

- Feels. Got it.

- At this point, maybe.

- What about the rest of his posts?