Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Jingle]

I could continue talking flavor all day, but really doubt that'd be useful.

[Jingle]

pedit: you crumbed traitor?

Not intentionally. I just assumed Blue sun and the Alliance would be separate factions and made flavor posts that would have been pretty "Hey, look at me, I'm a traitor!"-y in retrospect. Hence, did anyone change their behavior regarding me after that post?

[Toogeloo]

He gamesolves as I say I was on Cheeky last night and STILL says I healef him.

We lost him, crew. He's delusional.

[Reasonably Rational]

Hey Elsa.

You should elaborate on how your doctor ability works. Namely, does it protect against a single killing, action, or all killing actions?

-Cerb

[Elsa Jay]

Hey Elsa.

You should elaborate on how your doctor ability works. Namely, does it protect against a single killing, action, or all killing actions?

-Cerb

It's more along the lines of "heal any attack that comes their way". So yeah.

I doubt every scum decided to go for Cheeky though.

[Jingle]

Can anyone think of busdriver/redirector roles that would make sense in Firefly?

Cause I don't see a scum reason for either of them lying assuming I get what's going on.

[Reasonably Rational]

Can anyone think of busdriver/redirector roles that would make sense in Firefly?

Cause I don't see a scum reason for either of them lying assuming I get what's going on.

I don't feel that there's any reason to be coy about this.

Toogeloo claimed to activate a lightning rod effect.

This means that everything targeted him.

Elsa claims that their healing ability protects against any number of kills.

So all kills that were used by anyone were negated, and we know that none of the kills that were used were strongman kills.

Also, all investigatives etc also hit Toogeloo.

Toogeloo, please explicitly confirm that my interpretation of what you're saying happened last night is correct.

-Cerb

[Toogeloo]

Watch me attract a lot of attention tonight!

This was me literally claiming Day 1. I swear that if Cerb is the only one that understands what it is I am saying here...

[Toogeloo]

EBWOP:

[Toogeloo]

Toogeloo claimed to activate a lightning rod effect.

ding ding ding

With a Mafia aligned lynch, the best scum could do was secure a single town kill with me last night, and hopefully I dragged out a couple one shot abilities from them as well.

[Reasonably Rational]

Indeed.

Also, we can be fairly certain that, barring a modifier on your own role that prevents roleblocking, you were not the initial target of any roleblocking effects.

Am I missing any conclusions that everyone should be able to reach?

-Cerb

[Toogeloo]

Maybe if you italicized the word "should."

[Toogeloo]

Flavor wise... I "might" be River since, ya know, everyone wants to find her and me taking action would of course make all heads turn my way.

[Reasonably Rational]

I guess I might as well explicitly state this too since people seem a little slow today: if you investigated anyone last night, you received results from Toogeloo. If you watched him, you probably saw everyone visit him who has an action requiring target(and this might be information worth sharing, given that it would give us a list that necessarily contains one member of every anti-town group that could send in a kill last night, unless they had a ninja modifier...but it also might not be. Use your best judgment). If you copped someone, you now know toogeloos alignment. Etc.

Basically, if you're keeping track of investigative results for your role, change your target for last night and the results you got to a lightning rod toogeloo, not who you intended.

-Cerb

[Jingle]

Oh. I thought it was a self-watch claim.

That makes way more sense.

[Elsa Jay]

Since I never dealt with a situation like thks before, Imma be the noob and ask if ascetic counters that. Since, you know, it stops everything but killed.

Because if it doesnt I think I may or may not have been bullshitted alive?

[Jingle]

Nope. Lightning rod doesn't target.

[Jingle]

Should go without saying, but claiming an inno is pretty useless right now.

[Reasonably Rational]

Since I never dealt with a situation like thks before, Imma be the noob and ask if ascetic counters that. Since, you know, it stops everything but killed.

Because if it doesnt I think I may or may not have been bullshitted alive?

Ascetic stops all actions that target you and do not kill(technically, it does not stop ANY action, it merely makes the action not work against you. Critical distinction if, say, someone were to watch someone take an action against you but you claimed to have not received the result of the action...that would not mean anyone was lying, just that the action was submitted and went out as the watcher saw, but it had no effect on you). Lightning rod does not target you, it is a universal redirect that changes the target of all submitted actions to the person activating the lightning rod - in this case, Toogeloo.

-Cerb

[Gamma Emerald]

Watch me attract a lot of attention tonight!

This was me literally claiming Day 1. I swear that if Cerb is the only one that understands what it is I am saying here...

I see

[Reasonably Rational]

Should go without saying, but claiming an inno is pretty useless right now.

Fair.

I don't think we know enough about the setup right now to decide if a scum lightning rod makes sense, so we can't assume town Toogeloo, but yes, minimal value on an inno atm.

Jingle, do you think Flicker could be The Operative? He's the only major character I can think of besides Book who could be considered to have a priest modifier. Not actually religious, but he certainly was devoted to the Alliance and what he felt to be "right".

-Cerb

[Jingle]

Priest as a role is more about pacifism. I doubt it'd be an SK either, because holy shit Priest-SK sounds like the worst joke a mod could possibly play on a player.

[Jingle]

Like think of it as more: I don't want to take someone's life into my hands than religion. Which fits Book to a T.

[Almost50]

Attention

Attention, please!

Someone asked (via PM) about the Lightning Rod/Ascetic resolution, and while

I can neither confirm nor deny either of these exist in the game

I will say that in a

hypothetical situation

where these two exist I would

NOT

let a Lightning Rod affect the Ascetic player. (Yes, I know that's not what most of you think and I acknowledge your PoV might have more merit than mine, but I would treat the Lightning Rod as "action

targeting

everyone" if that makes any sense.)

You all do realize this isn't a "Normal", so I would strongly recommend you ask me how >I< would resolve any hypothetical situation.

Thank you

[Jingle]

You're right that those are the only two who come to mind as even being close to reluctant to kill though.

If reavers is a scumteam, Priest is right out as a role. Hands of Blue would be a real stretch as well, considering they're trained assassins. And Niska's crew, the only other possible scumteam from where I'm sitting, just doesn't fit that either flavor wise.

I'm fine with Flicker being conftown pending further flips.

So that leaves Toog, EJ, and Flicker as off the table for today, mechanically speaking.

Toogs push to lynch EJ seems pretty wonky as a lightning rod of either faction, but the fact that he just targeted all actions at himself in multiball on D1 seems pretty ballsy as scum. Like, if there was a strongman out there, strongmanning the claimed BP Doc seems like a strong move, and Toog would've just been dead. Possible he didn't consider that.