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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:03 pm
by Fuscosco
In post 1967, insomnia wrote:Simple mechanics, that means Percy’s the cop cleared one and not irrel
hoh?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:04 pm
by Fuscosco
hmmmmmm

We know theres 1 to 2 scum.
We dont need to know which is right, since we only need to lynch one scum today.

I want to know what people make of this.

VOTE: unvote

Its potentially lylo?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:08 pm
by Fuscosco
where is it crumbed that chara cleared irre?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:09 pm
by Fuscosco
In post 1202, Chara wrote:
In post 1200, Irrelephant11 wrote:If I have reason to townread Clarity later (like, say, her extremely towny reaction and/or claim after getting wagoned right out of the gate this gameday) then skitter sure would look scummier
I’m losing my townread on you, voting Clarity who might be town is 0% dangerous for town!you
My spreadsheet actually told me scum was you/Clarity and I didn’t want to believe it, maybe I should have
and now you're trying to scare me into voting Clarity with you?
it's not "dangerous", i don't vote players unless i have a reason to. you asking me to isn't a good enough reason.

you're also not helping me with skitter, but i understand why because wanting to vote the player you're actually scumreading makes much more sense than deciding to go along with somebody else.
I mean this doesnt look like how Id talk to a cop clear, does it?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:11 pm
by Fuscosco
In post 1973, insomnia wrote:N0 - Percy with Irrelephant
N1 - Percy with RCEnigma
N2 - Myself with Blake
N3 - Ceejay with Blake failed
Were any of these jailed, besides N3 Blake?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:11 pm
by Fuscosco
How does a self-targeting jail work anyway?

Does mod send a failed action PM?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:13 pm
by funkybike1
VOTE COUNT
5 of 8 votes are required to lynch. 4 votes are required to No Lynch.
Blake Belladonna (2):
Persivul, insomnia
Persivul (1):
Succinct
RCEnigma (1):
Blake Belladonna
Not Voting (4):
ceejayvinoya, Fuscezu, RCEnigma, Irrelephant11
Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-22 19:00:00)


Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:24 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1978, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1202, Chara wrote:
In post 1200, Irrelephant11 wrote:If I have reason to townread Clarity later (like, say, her extremely towny reaction and/or claim after getting wagoned right out of the gate this gameday) then skitter sure would look scummier
I’m losing my townread on you, voting Clarity who might be town is 0% dangerous for town!you
My spreadsheet actually told me scum was you/Clarity and I didn’t want to believe it, maybe I should have
and now you're trying to scare me into voting Clarity with you?
it's not "dangerous", i don't vote players unless i have a reason to. you asking me to isn't a good enough reason.

you're also not helping me with skitter, but i understand why because wanting to vote the player you're actually scumreading makes much more sense than deciding to go along with somebody else.
I mean this doesnt look like how Id talk to a cop clear, does it?
VOTE: Fuscezu

Chara was only revealed as cop post mortem.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:29 pm
by Fuscosco
Soooooo
How does that indicate an irre clear from chara N0?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:29 pm
by Fuscosco
Like I get youre useless and scum but a vote isnt going to solve that.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:32 pm
by RCEnigma
How would insomnia have known they moved a cop clear before knowing there was a cop?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:32 pm
by Fuscosco
In post 1985, RCEnigma wrote:How would insomnia have known they moved a cop clear before knowing there was a cop?
WHY DOES INSOMNIA THINK CHARA CLEARED IRRESLOT?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:33 pm
by RCEnigma
But continue with your awful push by all means. Also Fusc is confirmed scum in ANY world of 2 remaining scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:33 pm
by Fuscosco
iirc bus drivers dont know if they actually affected actions.

Where is it made clear that chara targeted irre?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:33 pm
by RCEnigma
CC and Irrel were Charas only likely softs.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:34 pm
by Fuscosco
In post 1987, RCEnigma wrote:But continue with your awful push by all means. Also Fusc is confirmed scum in ANY world of 2 remaining scum.
maybe, except irre and blake dont think so. neither does percy

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:58 pm
by Succinct
In post 1973, insomnia wrote:N1 - Percy
with RCEnigma
In post 1502, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1499, Irrelephant11 wrote:RCE what results did you get on yourself? Motion, because of your own detection?
I was told no other actions were taken on or by me.
Folks, we have a 1v1 here; these claims are mutually exclusive.

VOTE: insomnia

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:59 pm
by insomnia
Their whole interaction pointed towards that, even though the interaction was heated and you could tell they come from different viewpoints, Chara said that they wanna read irrelephant as town even though Chara pushed him hard. Also, you could obviously tell that Chara didn’t want this to escalate to a fight in between the two, as they were constantly debriefing and trying to reach a consensus with irrelephant DESPITE coming from a place of disagreement.

If that isn’t a cop check soft than I don’t know what is. Leaving a 2 page discussion that revolved around a cop and their check that finally reaches a town read from Chara despite Irrelephant’s erratic and aggressive behaviour. It’s hard to keep your calm in situations like that as either alignment.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:02 pm
by Succinct
In post 1991, Succinct wrote:
In post 1973, insomnia wrote:N1 - Percy
with RCEnigma
In post 1502, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1499, Irrelephant11 wrote:RCE what results did you get on yourself? Motion, because of your own detection?
I was told no other actions were taken on or by me.
Folks, we have a 1v1 here; these claims are mutually exclusive.

VOTE: insomnia
To explain:
RCEnigma targeted me N1.
Via my mirror, he self-targeted.
Via insomnia's busdrive, he either got a result on himself or a result on Persivul.
RCEnigma claimed nobody visited his target except for himself.
Regardless of whether he targeted himself or targeted Persivul, he should've seen insomnia's visit.

Ergo, the claims don't add up. I trust RCEnigma's more than I trust insomnia's.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:04 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1991, Succinct wrote:
In post 1973, insomnia wrote:N1 - Percy
with RCEnigma
In post 1502, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1499, Irrelephant11 wrote:RCE what results did you get on yourself? Motion, because of your own detection?
I was told no other actions were taken on or by me.
Folks, we have a 1v1 here; these claims are mutually exclusive.

VOTE: insomnia
Wait bus driver just changes their targets placement right? So I would still have targeted succinct?

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:05 pm
by RCEnigma
Ahh hmm youre right.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:06 pm
by RCEnigma
UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:09 pm
by insomnia
I’m not really sure how mechanics go and I always hated this aspect of the game because there are ten thousand roles, but that is my night action. As far as I’m aware of how my actions go, if someone targets player x, they will target player y, so I don’t know if there’s motion detecting involved.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:10 pm
by insomnia
My action shouldn’t affect RCE, he targets succint and then himself and then I make him target Persivul. I reckon he got the result on Persivul with the not any detection involved.

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:14 pm
by Persivul
In post 1983, Fuscosco wrote:Soooooo
How does that indicate an irre clear from chara N0?
In post 1986, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1985, RCEnigma wrote:How would insomnia have known they moved a cop clear before knowing there was a cop?
WHY DOES INSOMNIA THINK CHARA CLEARED IRRESLOT?
Try reading the thread instead of shouting. After Chara flipped I asked irrel if he saw a soft on a clear (I did, but wanted to see what he would say), and he made a pretty good case that he was the N0 investigation.