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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:12 pm
by Dannflor
i know this isn't directed at me
but I think both bitmap and gameplay are viable partners if LE flips red
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:19 pm
by popsofctown
There could be three scum on page 76. I don't like using stuff like that as framework but I don't see any "x can't be with y"
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:15 pm
by popsofctown
LE is fun to play with I hope she/they requeue.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:20 pm
by Lady Eventide
Still waiting for a response from Bitmap.
@Pops: Thanks for not listening and MLing me, see you probably never.
More seriously tho, obviously I've dug myself into a hole here regardless of alignment. Getting ML'd early in this many games says I'm a VI and need to rethink my play to be more usefully defensive and less, well, scummy. I guess it's just hard for me to care about looking town when I know I am.
In any case, glad you're enjoying the show; doing my best to not die here, which ironically is probably what's making me die. Eh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyone who has advice on how to improve my game, please provide it now.
Also, lynch bitmap.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:29 pm
by popsofctown
I would assess your play by winrate, not by how early you get mislynched. If mislynching you frequently exposes scum your winrate might be fine.
I have a high day 1 mislynch rate (fading a bit but I think it's still above rand) because I'm always very active day 1 (as always, I'm afraid to look at activity overview right now) and because of my style of activity day 1, but I think my games tend to transition out of RVS and into solving compared with those I spectate or show up late too and I think my town winrate isn't that heavily harmed.
It's also not necessarily appropriate to assign all the blame for a mislynch on the mislynchee.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:30 pm
by Lady Eventide
Yes, obviously. What do you have to lose? The general reaction shows that you have every advantage over me, popularity-contest wise. Disengaging and scoffing at my arguments as insufficient is just going to make me shout them louder and longer, with more and more elaborations on exactly how scummy you are, with no counterpoint from you. If I don't convince anyone and get lynched, those arguments will then be coming from a confirmed townie, at which point everyone who's already been suspecting you will have several wallposts full of additional ammunition. If you're genuinely town, you should engage now before I
really
get to work. If you're scum... Then sure, run.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:33 pm
by Lady Eventide
In post 1979, popsofctown wrote:I would assess your play by winrate, not by how early you get mislynched. If mislynching you frequently exposes scum your winrate might be fine.
I have a high day 1 mislynch rate (fading a bit but I think it's still above rand) because I'm always very active day 1 (as always, I'm afraid to look at activity overview right now) and because of my style of activity day 1, but I think my games tend to transition out of RVS and into solving compared with those I spectate or show up late too and I think my town winrate isn't that heavily harmed.
It's also not necessarily appropriate to assign all the blame for a mislynch on the mislynchee.
I assess my play by "do I achieve the goals I set out to achieve", which in this case include living. I don't always prioritize that goal, but in this game it's important to me, and I'm failing at it. Which means I'm not playing as well as I should be.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:39 pm
by Lady Eventide
PS lynch bitmap.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:48 pm
by Lady Eventide
Hey RC, stop being such an idiot and stop MLing me.
More seriously again: I don't like RC, I don't respect RC, and I sure as hell am not doing this for their good opinion of me; that ship sailed long fucking ago. RC's far too stubborn to ever reconsider his wrong opinion of me, and he's not going to. My primary motivation regarding him right now is to really rub it in his face how BaM he's been if and when I flip, and to make it
abundantly
clear to the town that his reads can't be trusted.
Nice spin though. Please, keep giving me more reasons to lynch you.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:49 pm
by Dannflor
I know I'm weak to AtE
but this page half makes me want to unvote Lady E
...again
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:50 pm
by Sailor Senshi
UNVOTE:
Something weird is up between LE and Bitmap.
I think Dann may be right.
Only 2 times, have I ever offered to go 1v1 (+ once on MU). In both Surprise and on MU, I was confident I’d caught scum and the other was in CoC 2, when I tried to hardbus my scum partner from hell Saudade, who was simultaneously hardbussing me.
Gun to head, LE +Bitmap could be buddies and slight possibility of RCE hyperfocusing on early Bit wagon, could maybe also be a buddy.
If I’m wrong, I really don’t know what to make of Stiles. Are they hard defending LE because they strongly tr her or are they buddies? Overall, I’m actually liking Stiles more rn than the other 3 and considering their reads are pretty flat, don’t feel too great about that.
~Mars
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:58 pm
by Dannflor
I think there's at least one scum between them. Two isn't completely out of the question just given how out of left field this push from LE has been.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:00 pm
by Sailor Senshi
VOTE: Bitmap
Bitmap’s sus comments on RC earlier, bad push on Pops, comments about not wanting to be NK’d, etc.
Think LE might still be town?
2, maybe 3 of Bit/LE/RCE may be connected but I dunno. Bit currently looks the scummiest out of the three.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:04 pm
by Bitmap
Ok, guess I'm forced to pull this card out. Thank you GIF for being the best troll mod.
One of my transformation grants me mod-confirmed Innocent Child status. I have my innocent child transformation sequence toggled if I do get to transform tonight.
If you vote me from here on out, it's a scum claim.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:04 pm
by Bitmap
You need to offer me the chance to transform. If you lynch me today, you'll severely regret it.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:06 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1984, Dannflor wrote:I know I'm weak to AtE
but this page half makes me want to unvote Lady E
...again
Don't dance around it then. It's posts like these that make me iffy because from the outside it looks like you wanting to stay on the wagon but save face if LE flips town.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:06 pm
by Bitmap
If you really think I'd claim this as scum, that's suicide for me. I would never ever claim Innocent Child if I wasn't one.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:06 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1986, Dannflor wrote:
I think there's at least one scum between them. Two isn't completely out of the question just given how out of left field this push from LE has been.
RCE also. I’m not sure who to vote for but I find it more weird that Bit was pushing Pops over RCE and that both RCE and LE seem to be tr each other. So, rn I can see a possible connection between Bitmap/LE/RCE.
I thought it weird that RCE was so hyper focused on early Bitmap wagon, like you correctly pointed out, no one even cared att.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:07 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1990, RCEnigma wrote: In post 1984, Dannflor wrote:I know I'm weak to AtE
but this page half makes me want to unvote Lady E
...again
Don't dance around it then. It's posts like these that make me iffy because from the outside it looks like you wanting to stay on the wagon but save face if LE flips town.
I can't help it I'm an indecisive fuck
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:07 pm
by Sailor Senshi
UNVOTE:
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:08 pm
by Dannflor
Bitmap why did you claim now
pretty sure LE's wagon is much bigger
there was no guarantee momentum would even swing your way
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:09 pm
by RCEnigma
UNVOTE: well bend me over I guess.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:10 pm
by Bitmap
In post 1995, Dannflor wrote:Bitmap why did you claim now
pretty sure LE's wagon is much bigger
there was no guarantee momentum would even swing your way
Because I've already gotten into a bunch of heated 1v1s already and I'm getting kind of sick of it.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:11 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
I was explicitly shading but not voting Bitmap for the reason of having noticed that crumb.
Not a fan of .bmp having been forced to claim.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:13 pm
by Bitmap
Sorry but I knew I was going to be in a really shit position soon.