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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:49 pm
by Replica
Effort, dude. Reads. Yes, reading. Content that isn't me/Amrun/Farkran beating our heads on the wall for 50 pages.

I'm trying to motivate you to try and win the game by making it clear to you what the stakes are for you as town. Winning games are hard. Getting reads is hard. Being a good town player is hard. The best things in life are often very hard.

Teams are about taking turns and sharing burdens, dude. You've got to step up when that happens and carry some weight on your shoulders. Other people suffer when you don't, not just you.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:49 pm
by Chara
hola.
as said above i'm indeed v/la. so for now... chilling.

pedit: how dramatic. not that i disagree.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:54 pm
by Chemist1422
Okay

I don't really know where to start so I guess I'll just read random stuff again

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:56 pm
by Chara
Bingle: why is Chemist your favourite out of those three?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:56 pm
by Replica
Somewhere Nacho is sitting in a Nashville bar, sipping on a whiskey highball, listening to a Hank Williams cover band, not staring at a computer screen for hours at a time. I hate him for it.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:58 pm
by Chara
In post 1977, Chemist1422 wrote:Okay

I don't really know where to start so I guess I'll just read random stuff again
Chara, Bingle, Nacho? i'd be interested in how you feel about your bottom three, if you want someplace to start.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:58 pm
by Replica
Chara's a comparatively short+less looked at ISO if you want some direction, Chemist, but honestly random stuff might be more helpful.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:00 pm
by Chara
In post 1979, Replica wrote:Somewhere Nacho is sitting in a Nashville bar, sipping on a whiskey highball, listening to a Hank Williams cover band, not staring at a computer screen for hours at a time. I hate him for it.
you make a good point about how i could be spending the remainder of my evening....

but i like you people too.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:19 pm
by Replica
...y-you wanna watch Cats (2019) together?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:21 pm
by Replica
I've become the thing I hated most in life, a shitposter.

Someone pray for me

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:27 pm
by Amrun
In post 1983, Replica wrote:...y-you wanna watch Cats (2019) together?
This is absolutely not the type of post I expected from you in the beginning of this game and it’s hilarious and makes the whole game worth it for me so it’s all good.


Go chemist go! Read the thing! Think the thoughts!

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:40 am
by Chemist1422
sorry wasn’t feeling up for it last night but I’ll start on it now

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:27 am
by Farkran
3 days to deadline - is this correct, or without the 48h extension granted for Chara's V/LA? Based on how it was described in VC 3.0, i would assume those 48h are already calculated in the current countdown.


I am still waiting for Nacho, mostly. I might want to shift my vote to there based on the recent Chara. Even if V/LA, it has been present more than enough to cast a vote on me if it wanted to give deadly momentum to my wagon, given that the deadline is approaching quickly and the game is stalling.

Meanwhile, one more question open to everyone: where will you look if i flip green? How does this change your view of the game? This applies to people who are voting me as well as those who aren't.

To Bingle specifically: where do you look if Chemist flips green? Amrun and ???

I am assuming that Amrun is shipping a Bingle/Farkran solve, Replica is assuming a Farkran/Nacho (maybe Amrun?) solve, Bingle is pushing Amrun/Chemist, Chara = Farkran/{Nacho, Chemist}. Chemist, i remember him pushing Nacho, probably with Bingle () or maybe Chara (). I'm really interested in hearing Nacho's solve for today.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:28 am
by Farkran
Actually you know what

HURT: Nacho let's see what happens next.

Question to chemist: what made you change your mind from d2 hurt Nacho to d3 hurt Bingle?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:35 am
by Chemist1422
In post 1988, Farkran wrote:Actually you know what

HURT: Nacho let's see what happens next.

Question to chemist: what made you change your mind from d2 hurt Nacho to d3 hurt Bingle?
No one was going for Nacho and Bingle had a better chance of going through

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:43 am
by Chara
In post 1983, Replica wrote:...y-you wanna watch Cats (2019) together?
...kind of. yes.

Farkran: the listed deadline seems accurate based on what i told pops about my V/LA and the added 48 hours.

meaning i should do something if i have the time. which i do have, currently.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:46 am
by Replica
This game needs something radically different. We've got to switch up the rules of the game. "Business as usual" won't cut it anymore.

We can't keep looking to Chemist for bailouts, not while he's still got homework.

We need change. We need a new hero.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:46 am
by Replica
Hold the phones y'all, I've got an idea. I've got just the thing. Change is coming.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:47 am
by Replica
Nacho, man, this is literally your time to shine as town. If a lynch happens today, it is most likely to be on you or Farkran. If you don't get lynched, you will definitely not be nightkilled.

All of the town is looking to you right now for new perspective and content. We're looking to you to take this game to the next stage.

Literally scum is counting on you to just do nothing, halfass your reads, and be lynchbait. Please do not let this happen.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:18 am
by Chemist1422
Technically I wasn’t doing homework, I was in school

But yeah I can read through stuff now

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:02 am
by Amrun
Will lynch anything tbf

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:12 am
by Chemist1422
I got around to skimming Chara's ISO and like how it builds its ideas around townhunting and how it uses those to approach the game

I also think its Hectic read is genuine, especially if Hectic is town

I'm gonna reread around the D1 Sherlock/Suji situation and reactions to it now

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:19 am
by Chemist1422
I think Farkran, Hectic, and Chara all had towny reactions to the original Sherlock post, Amrun sticking out as the one that didn't

I'll reread from the FN claim now

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:21 am
by Chemist1422
I liked Amrun's reaction to the FN claim a lot actually

Chara's was okay, I didn't like Farkran's

I think I'm talking myself back into it being Bingle/Nacho

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:21 am
by Farkran
In post 1971, Replica wrote:Chemist, man, this is literally your time to shine as town. If a lynch happens today, it is most likely to be on you or Farkran. If you don't get lynched, you will definitely not be nightkilled.

All of the town is looking to you right now for new perspective and content. We're looking to you to take this game to the next stage.

Literally scum is counting on you to just do nothing, halfass your reads, and be lynchbait. Please do not let this happen.
In post 1993, Replica wrote:Nacho, man, this is literally your time to shine as town. If a lynch happens today, it is most likely to be on you or Farkran. If you don't get lynched, you will definitely not be nightkilled.

All of the town is looking to you right now for new perspective and content. We're looking to you to take this game to the next stage.

Literally scum is counting on you to just do nothing, halfass your reads, and be lynchbait. Please do not let this happen.
Does anyone know Replica's main? Would it really be within his scumrange to display genuine frustration at slots who attack him? I'm trying to discern if there is really a reason to townread powerwolf!Replica besides tone and sparing too many people that could be town. I mean... Replica's correctness/actions ratio could potentially be very high if Hectic and Bingle are town (provided that he's pushing a spare-based solve), but the correctness/words ratio is definitely not for many reasons that i went over so many times now. The quoted posts are obviously a joking self-reference, but they still ping me the wrong way, in the sense that Replica is always trying to lead the gamestate to absurd conclusions. I mean, it's quite clear that he doesn't have a clue where scum is - even if i flip red, he offered no reasonable candidate for a partnership, because rather honestly only Bingle and Chemist would be valid as candidates and Replica doesn't want to lynch either.

Assuming town!Hectic, he also tried to spare Chara and Bingle. If Bingle is town and sparing vanity vote - because i mean, honestly, Bingle never had any spare equity - does Replica/Chara make sense? Chara had spare equity at some point during d2, but more people were wanting Hectic. I still think a Chara spare would have been very much achievable in this scenario though. A valid alternative would have been lynching me, but Chara removed momentum from my wagon... why? @Chara why did you unvote me back in d2? You never seemed convinced that i was town, if i recall correct.

Replica/Amrun? Both were voting Hectic d1, but in d2 Amrun didn't spare. They pushed the opposite sides of Bingle instead, but neither really had any relevant chance to succeed. Scum!Amrun would have had a lot more chances lynching Farkran, same as Chara.

Replica/{Bingle, Chemist, Nacho} suffer from the same exact fault - everyone would have such an easy time lynching me in d2 that i don't understand why they would allow a Hectic spare in its place.

Bah. Once again the only available explanation for scum!Replica is scum!Hectic. If this is the case, i guess Replica could just compromise on anything that isn't his own lynch at this point, and a Replica lynch is as distant as things could go in this game. And he still isn't scummier than Nacho or Chara, if we talk about VC 2.7 compared to 1.7