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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:45 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1973, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1968, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 1959, Bell wrote:Sorry April.
It’s just really important to me that you use the word equity right.
Based on the fact that Morph is fully capable of being town leader as scum, alongside the fact that the overall gamestate feels like scum is going with the flow, which a town leader very much can, and they end up being like the decider vote, on top of knowing that Cabd is definitely the type of player that can excel in a spot like that as scum, and seeing it from the perspective, I feel it’s like blatantly obvious to me that Morph is scum. Their scum equity is crazy high compared to that of like Zmuffin, who oh my wow, is prob town.

I’m still figuring out how to show you guys they are scum, and there lies the issue.

It’s one of those situations where I know they’re scum, and because there literally isn’t enough info, I can’t prove it, and they know it, and they know I know it, and can’t do anything about it.

So this is all me trying to do something about it. Even if I fail, they’ll know I was coming. Ya feel me, dudes?
Thanks for this. Now I know where to put my time.
I recommend you just try to push me as scum.

But wait, I’ll counter. I’m playing with such confidence because I shall claim the cliché, I will be able to be Conf town come Day 3.

Boom. Mic dropped!

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:47 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1970, Bell wrote:I pretty much feel you. I lso think they’ll probably be dead within the next day or two if you’re wrong so it doesn’t really matter.
The quip about ignoring it when you get nk Ed was because it generates a lot of wifom when you leave a note like that.
I love WIFOM.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:48 am
by Bell
Yeah, but I never know how many wifoms deep the correct interpretation is.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:48 am
by April Ludgate
People hate on WIFOM so much, but it’s so good. It literally just lets you analyze in advance, and both town and scum can manipulate it to their advantage.

I just be making them plays both alignments, when most people don’t as either alignment.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:49 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1977, Bell wrote:Yeah, but I never know how many wifoms deep the correct interpretation is.
You gotta deep analyze the player on a personal level. Create a narrative.

Bell, you my townie, right? I really really need you to be.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:49 am
by April Ludgate
Just in general, I’m not gonna ask you to vote Morph. That will be your decision if it ever comes to it

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:50 am
by Bell
People make a lot of assumptions and that’s not untrue for scum either. It’s incredibly difficult to understand a night kill, because sometimes they’ve gone off the deep end.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:50 am
by April Ludgate
I’m here with ya. Through and through. You, me, Plus, Remelia. We have a bond now that nobody can ever take away. We’re the friendly foursome.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1981, Bell wrote:People make a lot of assumptions and that’s not untrue for scum either. It’s incredibly difficult to understand a night kill, because sometimes they’ve gone off the deep end.
Fair, but I would say that it’s a townie skill to also control the range of the WIFOM available.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am
by Bell
I am a townie, but i’m not your townie bro.
That’s what snoopy is all about.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am
by April Ludgate
And what WIFOM to throw out.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:52 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1984, Bell wrote:I am a townie, but i’m not your townie bro.
That’s what snoopy is all about.
I think we need to get to that point.

I don’t wanna dominate the world in a few days and not have you here.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:53 am
by April Ludgate
I lived right next to the Charles Schulz museum and ice rink, like 4 minute walk level, for years.

That can’t be a coincidence that you’re snoop, and I lived that close to the origin of peanuts.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
by April Ludgate
You gotta town read me. I ain’t gonna do you dirty.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:00 am
by Bell
I’m confused how alisae doesn’t know that when I swear Cabd or ff makes a reference to her every 3 posts or so.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:02 am
by Bell
Take the town block tug of war and go confuse somebody else with it.

Also, this isn’t a hostage situation and you’re not the hostage so, stop working me, conman.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:03 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 1901, The Bulge wrote:so why is it being presented in the first line of 1469 as Tv?=SvS>>>SvT
I see what you're trying to say now.

The [Tv? or SvS] thing was the first thing that occurred to me and then I tried to dig into the branching paths of what such a thing meant. [TvX ~= SvS] was not a conclusion I feel I ever tried to present.
leading me to believe you find the two roughly equivalent in terms of likeliness.
I am explicitly stating here that that isn't what I was trying to convey.

(I still also feel like that was pretty clear based on the conclusion of the post and I kind of feel like you're trying to subtly accuse me of being disingenuous)

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:12 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 1968, April Ludgate wrote:Based on the fact that Morph is fully capable of being town leader as scum, alongside the fact that the overall gamestate feels like scum is going with the flow, which a town leader very much can, and they end up being like the decider vote, on top of knowing that Cabd is definitely the type of player that can excel in a spot like that as scum, and seeing it from the perspective, I feel it’s like blatantly obvious to me that Morph is scum. Their scum equity is crazy high compared to that of like Zmuffin, who oh my wow, is prob town.

I don't agree; "there is scum motivation to be a town leader in a go-with-the-flow gamestate" is fine only as a piece to an argument about why they wouldn't do the same as town which I think you're just not addressing

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:12 am
by Alisae
In post 1972, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1969, Alisae wrote:
In post 1967, Bell wrote:Oh right, I stalk people on MS and that’s probably not normal.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Penguin and I have a 13-month old daughter, yes.
congrats dude

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:24 am
by morph the cat
In post 1993, Alisae wrote:
In post 1972, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1969, Alisae wrote:
In post 1967, Bell wrote:Oh right, I stalk people on MS and that’s probably not normal.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Penguin and I have a 13-month old daughter, yes.
congrats dude
Thanks. Back to the salt mines for me, but yeah.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:24 am
by Remilia Scarlet
In post 1956, Secret Tunnel wrote:Ffery you guys see he’s baiting you, right? He’s trying to drown the thread in yet another fight.
April? I don't really agree. I think this is a bout of paranoia.
I’d rather wait and see if I’m wrong rather than misfading them.
I think scum trying to do what you're saying they're doing either votes or at the very least doesn't say this

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:32 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 1976, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 1970, Bell wrote:I pretty much feel you. I lso think they’ll probably be dead within the next day or two if you’re wrong so it doesn’t really matter.
The quip about ignoring it when you get nk Ed was because it generates a lot of wifom when you leave a note like that.
I love WIFOM.
me too

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:34 am
by April Ludgate
In post 1992, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
In post 1968, April Ludgate wrote:Based on the fact that Morph is fully capable of being town leader as scum, alongside the fact that the overall gamestate feels like scum is going with the flow, which a town leader very much can, and they end up being like the decider vote, on top of knowing that Cabd is definitely the type of player that can excel in a spot like that as scum, and seeing it from the perspective, I feel it’s like blatantly obvious to me that Morph is scum. Their scum equity is crazy high compared to that of like Zmuffin, who oh my wow, is prob town.

I don't agree; "there is scum motivation to be a town leader in a go-with-the-flow gamestate" is fine only as a piece to an argument about why they wouldn't do the same as town which I think you're just not addressing
I agree, but you have to see it from my perspective where my other reads are, and what I was seeing the gamestate as actually being, so that probably only pulls up a selection of possibilities, many of which include Morph, so while I like your sentiment as a whole, you are severely understating the layer of which I am currently peeling at.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:05 am
by PlusJOYED
I think April definitely has some ulterior motives going on here in regards to scumreading morph but i don't know which alignment they come from. I don't think they actually SR morph like they claim. I can think of a few possibilities.

1. He's scum going for an elaborate against the grain read (complete with crumbs) for townie points. If that was their intention it seems to have worked
2. This is scum theater (morph is my strongest TR so I think this is less than 1% of being the right answer, but it is possible)
3. This is town!april trying to keep morph alive since morph is very widely townread
4. This is a gambit by April to wait for someone to follow him in his SR of morph or switch off onto April, and then they'll go "aha, I've caught the real scum guys, vote this person" This could come from either alignment but makes the most sense as town!april
5. This is a petty fight for center of attention as town

Given Aprils prior posts and weird style, I think the true correct motive is option 4 and I'm not afraid to admit it since I don't think it'll catch scum like April thinks.

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:07 am
by April Ludgate
It’s not like majorly strong, but it’s there enough where I feel like I am correct.

If something happens that proves me wrong, I’d oblige, but I don’t feel like I am wrong on Morph.