In post 1209, Hopkirk wrote:i have a solid townblock of Kanna/Ashuka/you and would like to add MT to that
What had you so sure Ahsoka was town for the majority of D2, Hop?
I assume this is what also led you to lean Clidd v. Ahsoka being a 50/50 and therefore making Mena a better elim, since Pooky/Kanna/I didn't really see it as a toss-up
i know that you switched to thinking Ahsoka/Mena/Unc down the line, although you still wanted Mena/Uncrowned first and i just never really got why.
In post 1786, Hopkirk wrote:maybe it is just (Ahsoka, Mental, Uncrowned) that would make a lot of sense in explaining how they were playing it
I'm also curious what you meant by "how they were playing it" -- i remember Ahsoka/ABR/Uncrowned that were playing funny early D2, so I'm confused what you mean by Mena here
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:56 pm
by Alisae
The game is over.
Kill Mena.
If Mena flips scum this clears hopkirk, otherwise kill hopkirk. hopkirk should flip scum if mena flips town.
If Mena!scum, use both mis elims on ABR and Uncrowned then kill me in F3 as I'm the only other person who is likely to be Mena's partner as the others don't make sense.
If Hopkirk scum and Mena is town, then the last scum is 100% in ABR and Uncrowned and you have 1 mis elim to spare at that point the game is just over.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:56 pm
by Alisae
VOTE: Mena
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:57 pm
by Alisae
Like if its not Uncrowned or ABR and Mena is scum then scum just deserves to win the game ig.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:00 pm
by Alisae
ywall can do whatever ywall want tho.
like if you follow my instructions the game is over.
Maybe there's a chance if I suddenly become this super townie player but like I feel like you can't justify not killing me over literally anyone else in the playerlist considering how bad my D2 looks for me.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:02 pm
by Alisae
like if Mena is actually scum and Uncrowned ABR are both town, then I don't see how I don't become the F3 elim tbh.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:26 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its v unlikely mena is scum and wanted to PL the most important scum role lol.
I'm assuming the scum know that FL is the recruiter because if they don't even have that piece of information I'm not sure this can be characterized as mafia game.
also inside the hood, he didn't suddenly become townie and was still quite literally still the scummiest person in the hood
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:29 pm
by Alisae
like he was even trying to gaslight MT its bad dude.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ABR and Hopkirk look worse tho.
They were actively trying to save Flava Flav.
Mena can barely be characterized as playing.
btw any1 find any crumbs of people trying to signal Flavor Leaf to recruit them?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:33 pm
by Alisae
Like nothing Mena has down is more townie than any of these players:
Albert B. Rampage
PookyTheMagicalBear
Morning Tweet
Kanna
Alisae
Hopkirk
Uncrowned
clidd
and that list includes scum btw since obviously if mena is scum then thats the whole playerlist.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:34 pm
by Alisae
ABR in hood was way more townier than Hopkirk and if its Hopkirk all we need to do is just flip Mena and if Mena is town then its Hopkirk.
If Mena is scum then Hopkirk is likely town.
They're never scum with each other, its always one or the other.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:35 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if we're assuming 2 scum left it might be better to just kill townies
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:35 pm
by Alisae
I think my elim order is game winning
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:36 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
cuz scum dont get a nightkill to shoot in [Kanna-Me-Clidd] if they don't die and go down to 1 player if I'm reading FL's role correctly.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:36 pm
by Alisae
now
keep in mind i'm town so if it gets to the point where {ABR, Uncrowned} both flip town and I'm stuck in F3.
I don't think I win the 1v1 with whoever 1v1s me as scum there.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:37 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
We don't really want to hit scum too early and let the last scum start nightkilling imo.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:37 pm
by Alisae
I think the other 2 scum roles can kill.
If this was a nightless game that was not advertised as nightless I would be very surprised cause for scum to not have a kill and not advertise that honestly that doesn't sound fun to play.
It would be difficult to get players base on premise.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:38 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
well Flavor Leaf's role says the scum team gains a factional NK when they are reduced to 1 in number so I'm pretty sure it will be the same for the other scum roles too?
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:39 pm
by Alisae
Also if you kill town and a night kill does come out because ywall acted on the assumption that a kill doesn't exist unless we kill all of the scum then we get punished for making a bad decision.
pedit: We don't know the other roles. That was likely a backup measure for if the other 2 roles die before FL does.
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:40 pm
by Alisae
it would be quite shitty if your 2 players that could kill died d1 and d2 and the 3rd scum player was just left to not be able to kill and have go against the world..
no one would want to play that.