I'm not begging desperately, and I know that breaking down emotionally will only hurt me more, both in how accurate my own reads are and how other people perceive me. quiet, why you would suggest me to bawl in order to generate towncred? Keeping a level head is always going to be more important than crying, even if the latter generates a bit of towncred.
In post 1829, Prism wrote: In post 1391, floo wrote:Prism looks really bad if I'm voted out today.
I think Prism being scum only makes sense if Fairy is scum though.
I'm not scumleaning Prism atm, but I find that becoming more annoyed, stressed, and determined on single-handedly saving the town creates a good excuse for leading a miselim.
...Is there a reason you started out this day instantly throwing shade on me twice after seeing Fairy nightkilled?
I realized my past reads were wrong. I needed new scumreads. IDK why you think realizing that the pattern of players unlikely to be lynched dying, instead of more controversial players who would be more risky to the scumteam, is suddenly calling you scum. Perhaps it was my bit about the aggressive pushers maybe being scum themselves - I said maybe, I wasn't confident, but it was a possible explanation. The kill might have put you under a little more suspicion, you got a problem with that? Why do you have to shut off discussion about yourself being scum, rather than working through why fairy died instead of a fearkill? Why do you take such a negative tone with it when it is a completely normal observation for anyone to have? It is a NAI post, if I can evaluate my own posts. Why could you not consider why town would have such a thought? You are the person who is not looking to make the best reads, but to prove his own engineered scumread with anything he can find. And you still accuse me of doing the same to Sal.
I didn't see Prism's strategy being wise for scum at that point. Being in the spotlight can easily backfire on scum. I'd normally expect a "town leader" to be only this widely townread with confirmation via role mechanics (e.g. un-counterclaimed power role which is guaranteed to exist or town Cop inspect) or having scumreads lynched. I also struggled to see what Prism's partner would be doing and which pairs would kill esotericzoomer. I didn't think a lot about this and just said what was on my mind (a large part from gut) at that point. Excluding flow trap and quiet, who I thought were less likely to be scum in their own right: (points that I have realized recently, which just elaborate on what I already thought at the time, are in italics)
- Fred was difficult to see continuing to post like that while having Prism in private chat and as backing in the main thread. Plus this pair would be more likely to kill Spartan, who would target Fred D2 and could hit Prism soon too.
- fairy was possible since hard buddying would be forced. If Prism survives the days and nights while continuing to pump out lots of information, everyone will know something's wrong.
There would also be a point where Prism could not feasibly invent a new scumread.
There was nothing Sal/fairy did which would inhibit Prism or suggested that the player couldn't rely on Prism's backing.
- A Spartan teammate would be inhibiting Prism's strategy. Even if Spartan's confident reads in his unique mindset didn't run contrary to Prism's confident reads, he would be pulling attention away from Prism.
Also, Spartan would have a hard time forcing himself into the same opinions as Prism, when that would eventually be forced.
The difficulty in reading Prism was that there would be no obvious behavioral tells whether town or scum except hitting scum (a towntell) or the scumpartner slipping bad (a scumtell). Players like this, in my experience, will be assumed to be town on D1 for their natural high contribution behavior, and it will take something exceptionally scummy they say or else multiple days for them to be lynched as scum. I've learned not to fall into the trap of auto-townreading them; I usually come around to townreading them once they deliver their scum lynches with the help of their reputation and experience. Unfortunately, no scum flips have happened to confirm Prism right (or super wrong for that matter); I have no idea why a groupthink townread would be this severe, especially at this late-game point, even before the vote on me made me foil.
Something about my experience with the game of Mafia. While I was at the stage where I knew the lingo and the basic tells, but not the more complex theory, a highly reputable player suggested post-game a reading strategy to me. Look at a player's overall motives and the eventual consequences of the behavior, in other words whether they are helping town or scum - this might be the only way you can guess one particular habitual lurker's alignment. This doesn't work all the time of course, for example Enchant this game was acting very anti-town but still flipped town, but it might work for that player, who was more experienced and calculated.
I tried to apply this theory to Prism in this game. In short, I found it hard to read Prism, and I wanted more time to use this theory to read him. "I don't know" was another way I could put this; I used a more elaborate sentence like "I'll read this later because I need to wait for ___..." I learned from this game to be willing to say "I don't know" directly.
No unvote, no quickhammer.
VOTE: Prism. If it needed to be said, both of us are confirmed scum from each other's town! POVs.
I want Spartan to be the next vote, if you feel confident that I am town and Prism is scum, in order to show that your read on me is legitimate. And I fear scum!Spartan as Prism's partner going non-committal so that he may either quickhammer me once Prism finds another vote (most likely quiet) or bus Prism if necessary. (I'm not ordering you; this is a personal desire from a town!floo POV.)
