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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:59 am
by Dragon of the West
No one vote yet until people out targets and/or results

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:01 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 1974, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:We can just kill Nero then
In post 1974, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Need to do numbers on that, not sure if it makes sense for SK to kill scum

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:04 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
7 alive - I think we do finish claiming now because Marashu is flipped already actually. So we know his roll was real. If nobody else has a role that comes from Marashu's roll the most reasonable assumption is there was either a bus drive or redtea lied

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:05 am
by Dragon of the West
I feel like you shouldn't just jump to "we can just kill Nero" if part of your plan's resolution might involve the 3P helping the town wincon

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:16 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 1967, Nero Cain wrote:What redtea is claiming my role isn't true so either he's just scum and lying or he was bussed. I'm an even night parity cop that targeted Marashu n2.
Why did you target Marashu

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:20 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1967, Nero Cain wrote:What redtea is claiming my role isn't true so either he's just scum and lying or he was bussed. I'm an even night parity cop that targeted Marashu n2.
In post 1938, redtea wrote:I only skimmed but 1) no I was in a hood with James and T3, not Marashu and 2) I'm even-night rolecop, call it convenient but I found MY OWN ROLL:
Odd-night rampaging fruit vendor
Odd-night and rampaging fruit being the result of the "reroll twice" result I got.
So as long as mod didn't fudge that alignement, which I don't think is likely, we've scored ;)
So redtea claims Even-Night rolecop

Nero claims Even-Night Parity Cop

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:20 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Sorry for doing it in several posts but I'm on mobile and it's easier this way

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:36 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 1980, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1967, Nero Cain wrote:What redtea is claiming my role isn't true so either he's just scum and lying or he was bussed. I'm an even night parity cop that targeted Marashu n2.
In post 1938, redtea wrote:I only skimmed but 1) no I was in a hood with James and T3, not Marashu and 2) I'm even-night rolecop, call it convenient but I found MY OWN ROLL:
Odd-night rampaging fruit vendor
Odd-night and rampaging fruit being the result of the "reroll twice" result I got.
So as long as mod didn't fudge that alignement, which I don't think is likely, we've scored ;)
So redtea claims Even-Night rolecop

Nero claims Even-Night Parity Cop
In post 1935, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 506, JamesTheNames wrote:Updated and fixed list, in chronological order:

These are the current roll claims, who made them, and the post they were made in:
Ssbm_Kyouko - [13, 8, 1] Mafia Parity Cop with no modification -
Dwlee99 - [12, 8, 14] Town Parity Cop with a
Rampaging
modication -
Marashu - [1-12, 8, 7] Town Parity Cop with an Even-Night modification -
Gamma - [19, 17, 20] Cult Bus Driver with a Reroll Twice modification -
JamesTheNames - [6, 10, 7] Town Tracker with an Even-Night modification -
Cyrus62 - [7, 7, 1] Town Paranoid Gun Owner with no modification -
T3 - [1-12, 14, 5] Town Voyeur with a Multitasking modification -
Thor Ragnarok - [1-12, 19, ?] Town Roleblocker with an unknown modification -
Redtea - [14, 6, 20] Mafia Fruit Vendor with a Reroll Twice modification -
Nero Cain - [1-12, 9, ?] Town Rolecop with an ugly Modification -
SirCakez - [1-12, 9, 20] Town Rolecop with a Reroll Twice modication -
Dragon of the West - [1-12, 5, ?] Town Neighborizer with a Doubled modification -
Robert M Hunter - [2, 19, 3] Town Roleblocker with 1d4 shots - (1d4 later claimed)
Made some corrections above.
Of the living players:
Kyouko: Fudged roll flipped
Gamma: possibly fudged role flipped. More likely T3s roll generated cult leader and Gammas generated 3P if true
Nero: not flipped/claimed
Dwlee: not flipped/claimed
Redtea: not flipped and most likely not going to get claimed
Dragon: exact roll flipped
RMH: role claimed, roll claimed but not flipped

Because redtea's roll, if true, is unlikely to get claimed, I think it makes sense for them to claim last. It's unlikely they got their own roll, meaning they got someone else's roll. If they got someone else's roll, it means scum might accidentally fakeclaim the role redtea actually got if we let redtea claim late.

I think the last 2 to claim should be redtea, then Dragon
So technically, with no other claims, these 2 roles can both exist and be town if Dwlee's role was
fudged
into Town
Even-Night
Parity Cop, and Marashu's was
fudged
into Town Even-Night
Rolecop


This assumes dwlee told the truth.

If they are both town it also implies that Nero was bus drived by 3P who is actually not RMH because Gamma
should have
blocked RMH. That means RMH really is doubled vig, somebody rolled that or similar (possibly Cakez though, so this doesnt help us find scum now) and lied.

If Nero was bus driven then he is not 3P, and he was not swapped with me, Gamma, or RMH. I'm assuming there are no CCs to Gamma, myself, Nero, or Redtea forthcoming, meaning none of us are 3p either. That leaves dwlee and dragon as possible 3p bus drivers, and the other as the actual Odd-Night Rampaging Fruit Vendor.

So if either Dwlee or Dragon is Odd-Nigt Rampaging Fruit Vendor, we know the other is 3P.

I guess Redtea could be 3P Survivor gambiting to kill a strong scumread instead of just NKing Nero as a 3P SK. This also assumes that 3P exists because Gamma is town, and that 3P picked up the bus driver rolecard rather than the other random one

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:37 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
So if Either Dwlee or Dragon actually have that role that Redtea is claiming, we can lim the other one as they're almost certainly the bus driver

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:40 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Just need to finish massclaim

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:40 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
I have no pref on dragon or dwlee first

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:44 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 1982, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So technically, with no other claims, these 2 roles can both exist and be town if Dwlee's role was fudged into Town Even-Night Parity Cop, and Marashu's was fudged into Town Even-Night Rolecop
This isn't the only possibility. Nero's roll could be true and be fudged from ugly to even night for Redtea's claim

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:47 am
by Dragon of the West
@Gamma - what are your modifiers

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:50 am
by Dragon of the West
Oh and while you're at it confirm you targeted RMH

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:03 am
by Gamma Emerald
I’m 4 shot, and yes I targeted RMH last night

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:04 am
by Dwlee99
I'm complex jailkeeper. Didn't target either night cause I didn't want to interfere with investigatives and didn't feel strongly enough to risk it trying to roleblock scum or protect a night kill.

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:05 am
by Dwlee99
Without CC I think I trust Nero's claim cause it's on the list from flipped town.

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:07 am
by Dwlee99
Can bus driver not self-bus here? @cook

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:16 am
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah there’s also the fact that there’s nothing to suggest a rampaging FV is in the game because no one has claimed receiving fruit

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:20 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1993, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah there’s also the fact that there’s nothing to suggest a rampaging FV is in the game because no one has claimed receiving fruit
well, it either has to or redtea is lying so which do you think is more possible?

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:30 am
by Gamma Emerald
I don’t recall anyone rolling something like that unless a roll was just uber-fudged so my guess is redtea is lying

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:31 am
by Dragon of the West
One of Kyo or Gamma is scum

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:33 am
by Nero Cain
kyo sure but walk me through gamma

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:33 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 1991, Dwlee99 wrote:Without CC I think I trust Nero's claim cause it's on the list from flipped town.
I feel like it's possible, but that also means Nero's roll hasn't been claimed directly...so Nero's roll would have to be the one Redtea is claiming

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:54 am
by Dwlee99
In post 505, JamesTheNames wrote:Updated and fixed list, in chronological order:
In post 359, JamesTheNames wrote:These are the current roll claims, who made them, and the post they were made in:
Ssbm_Kyouko - [13, 8, 1] Mafia Parity Cop with no modification -
Dwlee99 - [12, 8, 14] Town Parity Cop with a
Rampaging
modication -
Marashu - [1-12, 8, 7] Town Parity Cop with an Even-Night modification -
MegAzumarill - [19, 17, 20] Cult Bus Driver with a Reroll Twice modification -
JamesTheNames - [6, 10, 7] Town Tracker with an Even-Night modification -
Cyrus62 - [7, 7, 1] Town Paranoid Gun Owner with no modification -
T3 - [1-12, 14, 5] Town Voyeur with a Multitasking modification -
Thor Ragnarok - [1-12, 19, ?] Town Roleblocker with an unknown modification -
Redtea - [14, 6, 20] Mafia Fruit Vendor with a Reroll Twice modification -
Nero Cain - [1-12, 9, ?] Town Rolecop with an unknown Modification -
SirCakez - [1-12, 9, 20] Town Rolecop with a Reroll Twice modication -
Dragon of the West - [1-12, 5, ?] Town Neighborizer with an unknown modification -
Robert M Hunter - [2, 19, 3] Town Roleblocker with no modification -
Quoting for as I think about the mech stuff