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- Salsabil Faria
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No, but I'm trying to decide if it's ethical to ask the mod to confirm if a backup of an x-shot would receive the remaining shots. I think the most likely explanation is that Margot is fakeclaiming and read from the Universal Backup wiki rather than the Backup, because the Backup doesn't have any mention of how X-shot roles work. Just taking my time here.In post 1974, Datisi wrote:kyo, do you genuinely believe that
2 ic's
a 4-power joat who is also conftown since they have a vig shot
and a backup vig that becomes full vig once scum does the MECHANICALLY CORRECT PLAY and shoots the joat
are all town???
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MafiaWiki entry for Backup wrote:The standardized Role PM for "Backup" describes the modifier as follows:
As a modifier on an active ability: Each night, but only once a P1 has died, (edit)
As a modifier on a passive ability: P2 once the role you back up has died (edit)
Example (modifying an active ability)
Welcome to game! You are a Town Backup Jailkeeper.
You have the following active ability:
Each night, but only once a Jailkeeper has died, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from kills that night, but all their actions will be blocked that night.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
Example (modifying a passive ability)
Welcome to game! You are a Backup Bulletproof Townie.
You are protected from kills that target you once the role you back up has died.
You have no active abilities.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
---MafiaWiki entry for Universal Backup wrote:The standardized Role PM for "Universal Backup" describes the passive ability as follows:
As an unmodified passive ability: You will inherit the role of faction power roles who die, losing this ability in the process. (edit)
As a passive ability with a modifier: You will inherit the role of the nth faction power role who dies OR faction power roles who die on day n, losing this ability in the process. (edit)
Example (unmodified)
Welcome to game! You are a Town Universal Backup.
You will inherit the role of Town power roles who die, losing this ability in the process.
You have no active abilities.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
Example (modified)
Welcome to game! You are a Town Odd Night Universal Backup.
You will inherit the role of Town power roles who die during odd-numbered Nights, losing this ability in the process.
You have no active abilities.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
In post 1959, Datisi wrote: anyway, that was such weird wording for a backup vigilante role pm, but i know that gypyx writes his own role pm's, and he's not a native speaker, so it wouldn't surprise me if the role pm was written clunkily. *however*, then i remembered that gypyx had had a backup in his games before. i rolled town backup roleblocker in mini normal 2180. and this is my role pm from that game:maybe it's foolish to assume that gypyx would keep the consistency of the role pm from almost a year ago, but damn this looks much different than "You will Inherit the first [role] to die in your faction".Gypyx wrote:
In post 1876, MargotRosa wrote:Town backup vigilante
I didn't want to mention it, because it makes scum's kills pretty much auto for the rest of the game, and it also means that if we suspected ssbm, I'm guaranteed to die the night we killed her, and would have just wasted the role
It's useless as soon as you have to claim it
In post 1924, MargotRosa wrote:Based on what the mod sent to me, I would assume that I only get one shot if that was your role:
"You will Inherit the first vigilante role to die in your faction"
Can't quote the entire message, obvs, but that's exactly what was sent to me by mod in my role PM
In post 1925, MargotRosa wrote:Also, for what it's worth, the "in your faction" bit was what made me wonder whether there was a mafia aligned vigilante in the game. Likely just a standardised part of role PMs based on others saying it's impossible
In post 1930, MargotRosa wrote:My gate is that I inherit any vigilante role from my (Town) faction. I took from that that I get the same modifiers.In post 1904, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Margot, your only gate is Backup? You have unlimited shots once the Vigilante dies?
In post 1948, MargotRosa wrote:Why wouldn't I have claimed universal backup then?
And I didn't quote. I copied and pasted. I figured that was ok
In post 1962, MargotRosa wrote:Yes. I am Town Backup Vigilante
Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive, so nobody listens!
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I want so badly for this to be correct because it means they both just violently bussed IV for no discernable reason, unless Margot/Aristeia is just a Mafia Universal Backup and they knew one of them would inherit the Vigilante/IC finder and they'd both be unlikely to get vigged.In post 1979, ChaosOmega wrote:Margot's partner is almost definitely Ari, just go back through Ari's ISO and Ctrl+F "Margot".
gg, drive home safe.
Let's face it, if T3 had died over IV, it would be reasonable to assume a Vig would shoot IV, and scum would lose a result. By bussing IV a Mafia UB would get a result N1.
She/They
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
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Sounds like Backups dont inherit modifiers, which includes X-Shot.
Margot is definitely scum, waiting to vote until I've had time to dig for partners. Putting her in self-hammer range is a scumclaim
Margot is definitely scum, waiting to vote until I've had time to dig for partners. Putting her in self-hammer range is a scumclaim
She/They
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
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UNVOTE:
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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In post 1984, MargotRosa wrote:Well, just remember for tomorrow:
Datisi then Salsa, then Chaos, then Ari, then ssbm, then enchant
In post 1985, MargotRosa wrote:I do actually wonder whether this is wild play by ssbm and I was actually correct to begin with that they are scum. Doesn't matter. My order stands. Will just be a funny reveal if it happens lol
Wait, wut???
I'm waiting for someone to say something special in mafia game(s) about me, so that, I can change my pathetic signature.
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This day reminds me of D1 of this mini where town whirlwinds accusations around, we build wagons, nobody seems correct, then scum just falls in my lap right before deadline. Not building wagons this time as we're close to ELO but feels like I've considered everyone but Enchant toDay
She/They
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
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The idea that I would allow my partner to claim in such a messed up way is frankly insultingIn post 1978, ChaosOmega wrote:Also, I'm not aligned with Margot, I would have coached her on this if I was. Your partner either doesn't have a lot of experience as well or just let you down.
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I feel like it can be assumed that if Margot had waited for assistance in claiming, no matter who her partner was, he/she would have caught the error. Maybe Salsa doesn't catch it, idk. Not going to read too much into it because it is also possible Margot has slipped on purpose to make an experienced partner seem less likely to be partnered with Margot because he/she would have caught that mistake.
She/They
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
"No ssbm is not grudging me. She's one of my favorites on the website, and i wanna say vice versa." - Transcend
The day senpai noticed me^
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I would like to point out, yet again, that nine of this makes sense based on everyone's narratives that they've built around my slot whatsoever.In post 1997, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I feel like it can be assumed that if Margot had waited for assistance in claiming, no matter who her partner was, he/she would have caught the error. Maybe Salsa doesn't catch it, idk. Not going to read too much into it because it is also possible Margot has slipped on purpose to make an experienced partner seem less likely to be partnered with Margot because he/she would have caught that mistake.
Again: I masterminded a situation in which I worked out that I could, with relative safely, buss a PR on my team because it was the most sensible given the format, and I also completely ballsed a role claim that I've been plotting since D1. Never checked a thread. Never anything. I'm just both brilliant and a complete fool
- Salsabil Faria
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