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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:26 am
by Datisi
In post 1967, VP Baltar wrote:After spending hours writing an effort post and then having datisi say "I guess this checks out," I have never better understood Ari's unrequited love.
buddy, it was like 11pm and i'm already tired as shit and i went to study

i lost about 5 minutes wondering why i wasn't getting the right answer on one problem, and it was because i wrote "1+1+1+1=3" so ya know that should tell you how well i'm doing in life right now

anyway, like gun to my head i would say you're scum but i feel negative confidence on that. mostly because like. ok the things you said check out. i did like because that is the reason why i often make jokey posts or make vaguely related fluff. like i like that. somewhat of a mindmeld. (but it's a mafia theory mindmeld so it's not worth the same as the usual ones.)

at the same time, i'm like, not QUITE feeling it. you entered the hood screaming how one mistake and i'm dead. okay, sure, you can argue that i didn't exhibit scumtells this game. but last game, where you were town, you literally went "yeah i'm not reading datisi on d1 at all i can't read him for shit on d1 lol" and all of a sudden i'm supposed to think that this game you're townreading me because... we had similar thoughts on dwlee? all while in a hood?

i'm sorry i made you do all that work bc i know it's annoying and i was really hoping that something that you wrote would allow me to divine your alignment but it just... hasn't

mmm, day ends in 2 days 5 hours. i will be home from my exam tomorrow in... ~15 hours, so we'll have a little over a day and a half left on the clock. i definitely do not feel Great about voting out vp because, as i said, there were a few moments in the hood that i feel like would've been counter-intiutive for scum!baltar to post and that i don't think he would've easily thought of for pocketing me. i still do want to look at those old games and see if he's similar to them and how i've used to read them, but like at this point i feel less than zero hope that i will be able to solve.

so like, if we're comfortable running the clock down to a day and a half for me to MAYBE divine some stuff but absolutely no promises (and also to read shuichi's case while cross-checking the hood and the main thread), then i guess. if not, i have no fucking clue who i want to vote here anymore because nothing makes SENSE

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:36 am
by Aristeia
In post 1975, Datisi wrote:i have no fucking clue who i want to vote here anymore because nothing makes SENSE
you can always vote for Prism like I've been begging you to for the last week

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:38 am
by Datisi
as the time is marching forward and the little bit of sanity i had left is disappearing, i might actually do that

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:42 am
by Enchant
Hello i am dumb, can i sheep someone thx

In real, as i said, i more inclined to kill mailman if it makes sense to consider mech.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:43 am
by Aristeia
you can sheep me and vote for Prism

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:47 am
by fireisredsir
vp can you put the effort that you put into explaining your datisi progression into solving the game

like case me if thats what you want idc, just... something not about you?

don't get me wrong i did read the post thoroughly and appreciate the clarity it provided but even with the effort that still lands more on the social game side of things

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:48 am
by fireisredsir
we can wait for datisi's test, so there's time

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:50 am
by fireisredsir
and i would much prefer that to you putting a bunch of effort into responding to shuichi's case but do that if you must

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:05 pm
by Prism
Dwlee providing zero reasoning and openly policyvoting out of fear continues to be a tilt-a-whirl move. Willing to vote VP Baltar if smarter minds want until the smarter minds want to.

Absolutely fucking disgusting play if town.
In post 1960, Aristeia wrote:they got destroyed by scum prism last game so they have a healthy respect for what prism can do unchecked
Very unchecked, truly you two are the vanguard preventing the walls from being overrun. I might have fun or towntell if you look away again.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:07 pm
by Prism
I can say I have zero sympathy for or expectation otherwise for Datisi to see that the mech/same setup argument is a nightmare, and still somehow consider going on me because he spent 30 hours talking to a flailing Baltar and 0 on my ISO.

I am straight having a good time.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:08 pm
by Datisi
i have said a while back that i do not care about mech arguments.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:11 pm
by Prism
In post 1963, skitter30 wrote:My solve rn is dwlee/vpb
Essentially at same point, I do expect this level of play drom Dwlee having seen similar in Slaughter Hour/D&C

Differences are that they don't have any pet scumreads whatsoever, actual zero, when normally they draw a name from a hat and die on the hill giving one liners. The policying me angle is lazy and anti-competitive as fuck whereas normally they take some pride in guessing iirc

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:11 pm
by Prism
In post 1985, Datisi wrote:i have said a while back that i do not care about mech arguments.
Read that post again, that was the point of my first sentence jfc

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:13 pm
by Prism
this is what I want you to read or spend any amount of time on

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13342364

I hope this is more explicit and helps

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:15 pm
by Datisi
i reread the first 15 words of that post 5 times and i still do not understand what you were trying to say with them.

i will probably relook the entirety of this game tomorrow anyway. going to bed before i say something stupid. good night

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:17 pm
by Prism
It is noting the irony that you see that the mech speculation isn't something you should touch or try with a 10 ft pole, but haven't spent any significant time since the DMZ days reading my slot via dayplay, which is the remaining alternative method

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:20 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1986, Prism wrote:
In post 1963, skitter30 wrote:My solve rn is dwlee/vpb
Essentially at same point, I do expect this level of play drom Dwlee having seen similar in Slaughter Hour/D&C

Differences are that they don't have any pet scumreads whatsoever, actual zero, when normally they draw a name from a hat and die on the hill giving one liners. The policying me angle is lazy and anti-competitive as fuck whereas normally they take some pride in guessing iirc
My pet scumread claimed bunyip and everyone unvoted lol

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:20 pm
by Dwlee99
We get it, you're better at mafia than me

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:21 pm
by Prism
I guess there are other methods to consider. You can also get drunk, scatter some town/mafia labels around and spin until you vomit on one. You can take a skin sample from VP Baltar up to the university look around for evidence of lichen, moss, parasitic activity.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:23 pm
by Aristeia
In post 1992, Dwlee99 wrote:We get it, you're better at mafia than me

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:23 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1972, Aristeia wrote:journaling is a very good way to keep track of your thoughts so that you can learn from your mistakes
In post 1973, Aristeia wrote:the human mind has an incredible ability to alter memory in a way that hides deficiencies - writing down thoughts and decision points is critical for honest self review and assessment.
I did this once and had really good reads that game day one and day two when I got mislimmed but it meant I had to spend most of my time looking at the game on a computer and I never actually fully caught up

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:23 pm
by Prism
In post 1992, Dwlee99 wrote:We get it, you're better at mafia than me
I don't think the bar I am suggesting of basic effort is comparative.

If you really want to debate the comparative topic, yes. My scumplay is actually trying and not entirely dependent on sandbagging and zero efforting as town. Tragic.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:26 pm
by Prism
In post 1994, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1992, Dwlee99 wrote:We get it, you're better at mafia than me
You had me feeling bad for you earlier this morning. My patience is quickly running out.

You go all out as either alignment and are not even close to comparable. The last several pages from you aren't a matter of better/worse than me, they're just being insufferable.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:26 pm
by Aristeia
You don't need to tell me I'm insufferable

I know I am insufferable.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:27 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 1996, Prism wrote:
In post 1992, Dwlee99 wrote:We get it, you're better at mafia than me
I don't think the bar I am suggesting of basic effort is comparative.

If you really want to debate the comparative topic, yes. My scumplay is actually trying and not entirely dependent on sandbagging and zero efforting as town. Tragic.
LOL okay