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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:48 am
by Flavor Leaf
what's your Roden and Kitty town cases without using meta?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:50 am
by koopashell
I have an idea. I want to put flames onto Andres' feet. Lets run him up tonight.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:51 am
by koopashell
2 goals: mental reset, and pull a missing link into the game.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:52 am
by Flavor Leaf
Frankly, I would have much more control over this game if I were scum.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:53 am
by MathBlade
In post 1976, koopashell wrote:I have an idea. I want to put flames onto Andres' feet. Lets run him up tonight.
Sure. He did the same dodge prods in the normal when he was scum. That seems good to me too. Mainly we just need to stop fighting. This day has gone on long enough.
Long as I don’t explicitly townread someone I will vote them.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:53 am
by Flavor Leaf
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:55 am
by koopashell
Kitty - has shown a progression I believe difficult to do as wolf. I will do a more deep analysis however later - however I have had paranoia on this slot multiple times and reISOed it and felt them as town every time.
Roden - their presence and energy has been, in my view, town. The reaction to the push and the countercase was - logical and not just an OMGUS. They gave concrete reasoning for reads and have made an effort to maintain a presence despite being FOSed.
These are the cliffnotes from memory. I will back up with quotes when I am by my PC.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:55 am
by Scorpious
VOTE: kitty
I’m good here
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:56 am
by koopashell
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:56 am
by JacksonVirgo
In post 1935, Flavor Leaf wrote:Someone Vig Koopa.
If he is town, he will lose the game for town.
If he is scum, it's a great shot.
This is getting too personal for this to get anywhere productive. I also think that their reads aren't entirely correct, I've said this in detail but in no way is being wrong early game mean they're going to lose the game for Town.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:57 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1981, koopashell wrote:Kitty - has shown a progression I believe difficult to do as wolf. I will do a more deep analysis however later - however I have had paranoia on this slot multiple times and reISOed it and felt them as town every time.
I agree with that they feel townie by tone. Do you know their scum game at all? Do they have a townie tone as scum? Think you could find one of their scum games?
What progression are you referring to?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:57 am
by JacksonVirgo
Did you change your read on me or is it the same? If it's the same but Kitty is a consolidation vote can I ask why you think I am scum and I'll try and debunk that as best as I can personally.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:58 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1981, koopashell wrote:Roden - their presence and energy has been, in my view, town. The reaction to the push and the countercase was - logical and not just an OMGUS. They gave concrete reasoning for reads and have made an effort to maintain a presence despite being FOSed.
have you been feeling that energy in opposition against me, though, and could just like by personality their side over mine?
It feels like your RodenTown read could be fueled by being directly against me.
Where is their concrete reasoning for reads, and where is that presence? The only thing I've seen them do is piggyback and come in and slash at me always after someone already was.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:59 am
by Flavor Leaf
@Koopa - these questions are two pronged, of course, your answers could help me see something I'm missing or vice versa.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:00 am
by Flavor Leaf
Take your time, dont need them now, just whenever you get the chance.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:00 am
by JacksonVirgo
I believe the top four posters up until now, which includes me, are all Town. HEM I am questioning because of that whole warping post thing but that's not strong enough to break my mind-meld read. FL and koopa read like town that have vastly different energies that are clashing.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:01 am
by Flavor Leaf
I can see a possible Roden/Mala, tbh, hiding behind koopa/fL
a theory.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:01 am
by JacksonVirgo
Malcom and Mala are also both Town but not as strong as the previously stated reads.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:02 am
by JacksonVirgo
I can't really get my feelers in roden being scum tbh.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:02 am
by Flavor Leaf
I dont think JV is ever scum this game.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:04 am
by Flavor Leaf
I just really don't understand how. To me, their ISO is just aimless, the questions they ask have off energy, and they really haven't done anything, yet people dont see it.
I think they just have a solid tone that comes off as townie, tbh.
take out tone reads, i dont think there's anything townie in their ISO that couldn't be coming from scum.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:04 am
by JacksonVirgo
I soul sincerely believes that all scum are in Scorp, Math, Italiano, Kitty, Andres and NK. My brain also knows that soul-reads early in the game are not reliable. But 2 out of 3 I believe are definitely in that PoE.
I want Kitty or NK solved today. Scorp going on the attack on my slot is a good look in and of itself, even though it does go against me personally.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:04 am
by ItalianoVD
What is your read on me koopa?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:04 am
by MathBlade
Can we like stop saying who we wouldn’t do and say who we would do?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:04 am
by koopashell
Roden read was maintained through my various flips on your alignment.
I'd still bin Roden for d1. Better to save a player from a mislim as the other side of it, where we can have a wolf player who has to spew another day.
Consider this: you are going to be alive tomorrow to push wolf roden. I am defensing him. You will have a higher likliehood of pushing roden through day 2 if you can't find them town still.