↑Pine wrote:Beats me. I remember reading every article on this site's theory I could find while waiting interminably for mith to clear my account, and then doing it all again during my first couple of games. To a newbie, simple bussing can seem downright mustache-twirling clever. And many of those guides advise doing it right out of the gate.
Occam's Razor suggests otherwise. All of this is based on a LOT of assumptions that give not one but TWO newbies credit for this idea. I'm not buying it, the princess is in another castle.
↑Pine wrote:Alright fine, you make a lot of sense. Stop rubbing my nose in it.
I swear to god, if Yates turns out scum, you owe me a lapdance.
Oh, and what's your opinion on Grimmjow?
I'm looking in particular at post # 163 where he calls our Hydra's case on Reck "weak" and then goes on to say all of nothing about the case, or why it is weak. Or why Reck is town or scum or anything concerning Reck's alignment.
And also his post voting for Uphill, which came out of god knows where and made no sense. Promised content was never fulfilled.
@Yates: Why is it scummy for a slot to be replaced twice?
@Reckoner: 'kay, would you say this summary of Grimm as he has played in this game is accurate:
1) Unlikely to contribute to catching scum
2) Unlikely to vote for you, even (or especially) in LyLo
3) Likely to be lurker lynched near or in LyLo
Why is he town? 'Meta' and 'lover's intuition' makes me go get my hammer.
It's very likely the day before lylo.
Massclaiming today would help out with some stuff.
I've already claimed VT, Furc has already claimed Miller, so scum are only dealing with 3 unknowns anyway.
Thoughts?
I want to know if it makes sense for Furc to be a miller or not.
Also I would hope any investigative role has done something productive by now.
I also think we'll lose if we don't lynch scum today; it's very hard to get all 3 town to vote together unless we agree to sheep somebody who's conftown or lynch randomly.
Has Yates ever voted a person who hasn't called him scum?
Anyway, it REALLY annoys me when cops sit around and let their innocents get lynched and stuff because they don't want to claim or get nightkilled before saying anything useful.
I think the last two are in Reck or Grimm & Furc or Thor.
Yates bothers me endlessly though. I won't rule him out yet.
But yeah, I would like to do some PoEing.
Reck + Furc is my best bet right now, but the margin isn't huge.
2 shot tracker + neighborizer + doctor + miller isn't enough / doesn't make sense.
I'm not sure whether adding a cop or something to that is too much.
If somebody else claims 2 shot watcher or such then the two of them are town and we lynch furc.
I think massclaim sounds pretty good here.
I'm not really comfortable lynching Reck without more role information about what's going on.
I really think massclaim can confirm a couple of alignments or at least be really useful to us for figuring things out.
Grimm getting tracked going nowhere N2 makes him about half as likely as the rest of the world to be scum and makes him not a cop.
Furc has claimed miller
Reck has claimed tracker
I've claimed VT
Thor, Seacore, and Yates are really the only ones up in the air.
Doctor + 2shottracker + 2shotneighborizer (hrm, pattern) + miller doesn't feel right.
I can speculate about stuff here, but I want to know the full picture.
Doctor + tracker + masons vs some mafia power is about right.
Neighborizer adds about as much as miller subtracts.
I'd say Reck AND a cop or masons being town actually works pretty well, especially depending how mafia is powered.
It works out to a lot of total PRs though.
Blah.
Anyway, I'm back to Chicago now, so my dormancy is ending.
I mean, if you're scum we HAVE to have something else.
If you're town we PROBABLY have something else. But if we don't then massclaiming saves a mislynch.
We have enough weird claims that I think massclaiming will either make a lot of people very likely to be town or deliver scum to us.
It will also help us a lot with PoEing and stuff.
I think the benefit to today's lynch outweighs the increased certainty of the cop getting shot / blocked tonight (which may already be 100% for all we know).
Unless the cop has no results on living players, I think a massclaim is beneficial here.
Uh Reck, you do realize you're the most likely lynch today if massclaim doesn't happen right?
