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↑ IceGuy wrote:

↑ izakthegoomba wrote:

↑ PokerFace wrote:I would agree that it is not mafia, but I wouldn't say the setup is shity. its just generally more difficult for town to win. 1 bad towny in a normal game leads to 1 possibly 2 mislynches and or the death of a power role, worst case scenario. While 1 loud mouth guard can lead to instant win for the assassin, game over. You really need different skill sets for each game type.

I believe it's been demonstrated that random lynching or a similar strategy is optimal for the town, which in my mind quite clearly identifies it as "shitty".

Exactly.

Is it so different? How truly random is the lynching? There is a trick to it that is difficult to pickup on sometimes

In normal mafia you often have a random vote stage up until someone does something scummy and then you lynch that guy

In AiTP you random vote and if necessary random lynch. During either the random voting or the random lynching, the assassin may speak up. He pretty much has to say something or his killing will be random. When he says anything that resembles king hunting, then all guards are smart enough to realize that guy must be the assassin and vote him. The biggest flaw in the game type is not enough people are able to notice and understand what king hunting is fast enough. They are too concerned with keeping silent to realize who is gathering info.

In mafia you have informed minority vs uninformed majority

In AiTP its informed majority vs uninformed minority

That's why its not mafia and its a different skill set. You want to kill the loudest and leave the silent lurkers. If you are a guard you need to think like scum because you aren't really town!

To support that it is not always random I will say that in AiTP3, the assassin was lynched day 1. No random lynches were needed in that game as mykonian and red panda were able to establish to the rest of the guards who was king searching. I would link you to game but it was lost in crash and I don't have my notes on who was each role

/in next

Basically, the idea behind scumhunting is that it gives the uninformed majority some information so it can win against the informed minority. If the majority is informed, scumhunting only helps the (uninformed) minority. The optimal strategy for the guards in AitP is to random lynch every day until the game ends.

IceGuy wrote:Basically, the idea behind scumhunting is that it gives the uninformed majority some information so it can win against the informed minority. If the majority is informed, scumhunting only helps the (uninformed) minority. The optimal strategy for the guards in AitP is to random lynch every day until

the game ends

someone talks too much and you lynch that guy.

ftfy

Generally there can be direction in the lynches, but as that direction must be understood and not talked, it is easily miconsued as completly random

EBWOP

Generally there can be direction in the lynches, but as that direction must be understood and not talked , it is easily miconsued as completly random

the queue really isnt the place for an aitp discussion poker make an MD thread

/in for chosen mafia

/In for Duel mafia.

/in for Micro 11

Well, unless I am mistaken micro 11 (mostly normal micro) is full for me with:

Bub Bidderskins
Mehdi2277
borkjerfkin
DoubleJD
Luckyjt
Mr_Ree
Salamence20
zabriel
ProsecutorGodot


I'm going to get the thread setup and send role-pms out by tonight.

Mostly Normal Micro has filled for DCLXVI with the following playerlist:

Bub Bidderskins
Mehdi2277
borkjerfkin
DoubleJD
Luckyjt
Mr_Ree
Salamence20
zabriel
ProsecutorGodot




Alternating Semi-Open 9P
Semi-Open (based on Alternating 9P)
Knight of Cydonia
0/9

Chosen Mafia
(2x Goons, 2x Chosen Townies, 5x Townies)
Nachomamma8
6/9

GreyICE
FUT
RedCoyote
Majiffy
Battousai
ewo2

Duel Mafia
Closed Theme
Quilford
1/9

basketballstar24

Alternating Semi-Open 9P
Semi-Open (based on Alternating 9P)
Knight of Cydonia
0/9

post

/in Micro 15

Hoopla, I'd like to pull my game from signups, if you don't mind. Thanks.

/out micro 10
/in micro 15

Alright, pulling Quilford's game from signups.



Think Twice
Open (2x Mafia Goons, 3x Townies, Nightless)
GreyICE
0/5

Chosen Mafia
(2x Goons, 2x Chosen Townies, 5x Townies)
Nachomamma8
5/9

GreyICE
FUT
RedCoyote
Majiffy
ewo2

Think Twice
Open (2x Mafia Goons, 3x Townies, Nightless)
GreyICE
0/5

Alternating Semi-Open 9P
Semi-Open (based on Alternating 9P)
Knight of Cydonia
2/9

ChannelDelibird
Battousai

/in 14

Grey, why did you get rid of the godfather?

/in for Think Twice

/in 14

/in 14

/in 14

↑ IceGuy wrote:/in 14

Grey, why did you get rid of the godfather?

Extra complexity, and it was a holdover from 5P vengeful that I didn't really feel was needed (there's no way the Godfather can be shot by a vengeful townie, so that entire mechanic doesn't work).

Think Twice has filled for GreyICE with the following playerlist:

IceGuy
Timeater
saulres
Cobblerfone
basketballstar24





Closed Normal
ChannelDelibird
0/7