Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

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Yep

If something's making you think that way you may as well point it out

I have pointed it out several times, so you have NOT read the last few pages.

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Are we seriously wasting page space on this dumb argument? P-dra gets autolynched tomorrow if Ythan comes back town (he won't, refer back to my question to DGB earlier).

(Friendly reminder that DGB and Zoraster are still obvious scum.)

Ythan's lack of response is re-assuring that we're on the right track.

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Oh sweet, sheeping Fate leads to voting for scum.

BAAAA!

State your position on Ythan.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh sweet, sheeping Fate leads to voting for scum.

BAAAA!

State your position on Ythan.

No reason to disbelieve the cop claim as of yet.

Why aren't you voting Ythan?

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Tentative +7 on Zoraster in the event that Ythan is scum. The reason for this that Zoraster has avoided actually stating a position one way or the other on the claim, and has instead just questioned the manner in which it was made

yes. because all positions must be arrived at immediately and stated loudly, especially and even if it comes from someone who I would suspect of shenanigans even as town. Lining up lynches for this lame reason? scummy.

Scummy

That's actually one of zoraster's less scummy post. Why do you find it scummy? I'd like to know.

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No Earth-shattering revelations here, willing to hammer.

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VOTE: Ythan

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Good job everybody.

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With the bodyguard dead, the mafia roleblocker dead, and three shots in the night, colored me surprised that P-dra wasn't one of the targets.

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I'll venture a guess that Quilford vig'ed JacobSavage, who flipped town against all odds.

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The NS/MIni-Librarian playerslot has what, 13 posts in over a hundred pages?

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Actually, it's 19 posts. I thought NS had posted only twice, I guess I remembered wrong.

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I didn't like the way she hesitated and avoided voting obvscum thundercheese or whatever his name was, but I can't be sure that's a scum tell

Thundercheese was straight down in my scum category, which, going my memory, might have consisted of two players at the time.

I have to admit to being blindsided by my P-dra hate, erm, pretty much everyday.

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I kinda think if nothing turns up we lynch DBG. If bella protected Fate and OD died tonight then those kills point right to her.

Absolutely not. No way in hell did I target either of these players, period.

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i actually agree with fate here. i dont think bella protected pdra and its more likely, from her posting/crumbing, that she protected fate

You`re an idiot

Vote: SlumberPartyBois

Yeah. Bella didn't protect the

claimed cop

. Nice try. I agree with dramonic.

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I might as well get it out there that we have a guilty.

I WOULD HATE, HATE to have to nominate you for a scummie. Stop it.

[DrippingGoofball]

My flavor is that I'm literally God and I have a Zune that contains seventeen Elton John songs. I can force one person to listen to a song each night.

N1: Targeted Ythan with "I Feel Like a Bullet (In the Gun of Robert Ford)" because it sounded like it would kill him. I got no indication of what happened. There's a possibility this did the governor thing next day but I'm not sure.
N2: Targeted Wyrd with "Postcards from Richard Nixon." This was a watch ability. Nobody visited him.
N3: Targeted The Butt On Men with "Your Song." I don't know what this did.

I believe

this

guy. It's a counterclaim with complete and believable results.

We don't have two Dreaming Gods.

And I don't believe

that

guy.

SPB

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VOTE: SPB

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mod can we get that VC pls

"Reset" means everything at ZERO.

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i dont want to confirm whether or not there is a doctor who targeted pdra. if you cant see how claiming that information would be pretty dang beneficial to scum then ???

I think that's covering your lie.

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Oh wow lool DGB and her scum buddies strongarming a lynch through based on setup speculation? WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED

Mattdra has been town sjnce d1 this shit is.stupid.

Oh, be quiet.

The only reason you're still alive is because (1) you're scum and your buddies aren't bus'ing or (2) the scum is leaving you alive because YOU ARE NOT TREAT TO SCUM BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUMHUNTING BY AN AMOUNT OF EXACTLY

ZERO

.

IF, and only if, you're town, and that's a big "if" you're completely ineffective. I suspect you are scum and you are being ineffective on purpose.

If I would have know how epically terrible your play was going to be, I wouldn't have interfered when everyone wanted your head on a platter.

I have never, ever seen you play this abysmally bad - as scum or town.

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Wyrd:

1. Nobody visited you on N2. That's a fact. You should examine why you think you were bodyguarded. If this is because of something someone told you in the hydra QT, then they are lying.

Thank you. I do not believe anyone would protect one of the worst players in this game (even Bella), over the CLAIMED COP.

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Wyrd is scum with SPB, you heard it here first.

Kirk out.

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Obv Bella would protect me did you even read her ISO?

OVER THE CLAIMED COP

NOT A CHANCE IN HELL

[DrippingGoofball]

Obv Bella would protect me did you even read her ISO?

OVER THE CLAIMED COP

NOT A CHANCE IN HELL

"I'M MAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T SHOOT THE COP, NOT KNOWING THE SK IS COP-IMMUNE AND GIVES NO FUCKS AND WOULDN'T DO MY LAUNDRY FOR ME."

"WYRD MUST BE SCUM I HAVE LEFT MYSELF NO OTHER OPTIONS TODAY FLAILITY FLAILITY FLAIL"

bloah blah blah blah

I know I won't convince you because you're scum.

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Could SPB be more like a scum JOAT?

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DW is totally town.

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Like, seriously. Totally town.

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Fate is scum.

There's nothing like tunneling on a single townie all game to protect oneself against nightkills.

In other news, I just noticed that SPB isn't even voting the guy that's counterclaiming them.

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DGB read on SPB?

Would really love to just lynch her and work out these two tomorrow... but even then, don't think both are town (2 protown watches in a single night is broken as fuck)

This post is dumb. Or scum.

Kawaii wants to lynch me but wants my opinion on SPB (dumb thing #1), which should be abundantly clear given where my vote is (dumb thing #2). Then even Kawaii himsef admits that one of SPB & DW is scum, and has decided it's DW (dumb thing #3), which means that Kawaii believes that DW is scum with P > 50%. YET Kawaii WILL NOT VOTE SOMEONE WITH more than a 50% chance of being scum!!! (dumb thing #4)

But Kawaii wants to lynch me today (dumb thing #5), have his DW tomorrow(dumb thing #6), and keep his SPB buddy alive one more day... to LyLo maybe? I haven't calculated.

If SPB is scum, Fate is scum, Kawaii is scum.

Please refer back to this post after I'm dead.

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Lynch Minilib
???
Profit!

Also, aside with some lurkage, MiniLib hasn't been particularly scummy, and has even dropped a few towntells.

Good job lining up townie lynches, scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, you think minilib is town?

More town than scum, uncertainty due to scarcity of content, rather than content itself.

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Who is P?

P stands for Probability.

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Kat doesn't have a townread on SPB, I Do. We might hold off on voting either.

Reason #574290572754392 why people hate hydras.

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I mean I shouldn't make it to LYLO

, but I'm town. So I'm not saying you shouldn't lynch me per se, but it would probably be better to lynch scum.

This is a straight up towntell.

Wyrd, why would scum dw counterclaim a role unprompted when two of his partners are already dead? Also did you get anything that might have come from SPB last night? The time to claim that was like two pages ago.

Can we all agree this is a scummy post?

You shouldn't require consensus before calling something scummy. Use your big-boy voice.

It's a fucking scummy post. You start out saying dgb is not scum with ythan and finish by saying that your town read is fading on her. That doesn't add up and looks lynch happy.

This is townie thinking.

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it's a soft claim.

That like everyone probably noticed immediately

I didn't notice but I'm dumb that way so maybe I'm not a good example.

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pedit: lol nah DW has a higher than 50% prob of being scum, DGB. The read came way before the dreaming god 1v1

Same difference. You have a player that you consider P>50% scum, and he's not a voting priority for you, scumbag. I don't know why I'm arguing with the scum.

Wyrd
SPB
Kawaii

At least 2/3 are scum. in the above set.

[DrippingGoofball]

If Kat agrees Wyrd is town I'll agree DG is scum.

Wyrd is scum and I'm town, and god only knows what

you

are.

[DrippingGoofball]

Here are some interesting paroxysmal wagons.

I have town read on the struck out players.

Pretentiousdra - 7 (

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

, Zoidberg,

Om of the Nom

, Slumberpartybois, BT, Drench)

P=.25

Zoid
SPB
BT
Drench? How come I can't find Drench in the player list? Have I lost my mind?

Wyrd - 8 (Slumberpartybois, Kawaii, Pretentiousdra, zoraster,

Gammagooey

, Nobody Special,

One Direction

,

Quilford

)

P=.20

SPB
Kawaii

Pretentiousdra

zoraster

Mini-Lib

Zoidberg - 4 (

kuribo

,

Ythan

,

ThunderHog

,

Om of the Nom

)

WOW, that's an easy wagon to analyse!!!

ThunderHog

- 13 (vollkan,

Gammagooey

, Zoidberg, Wyrd, Kawaii, TheTrollie,

kuribo

,

Om of the Nom

, Nobody Special, zoraster, dramonic,

JacobSavage

,

Nachomamma8

)

Mmmm no red name in this list. First scum wagon, early game when town-cred really counts. I'm going to wager two scums here.

P=.25

vollkan
Zoidberg
Wyrd
Kawaii
TheTrollie

miniLib

zoraster

dramonic

zoraster - 5 (Pretentiousdra,

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

,

JacobSavage

,

DrippingGoofball

)

This is interesting because it looks like a totally town wagon... on one of my town reads.
P=1

Pretentiousdra

JacobSavage

- 6 (DeltaWave, Iecerint,

Quilford

, Slumberpartybois, Zoidberg, zoraster)

Now this might have been a super-easy lynch. I bet two scums on this one.

P=.40

DeltaWave
Iecerint
SPB

Zoidberg

zoraster

Ythan

- 9 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint, Wyrd, SlumberPartyBois, DeltaWave, Zoidberg, vollkan, Kawaii, BT)

This guy was saved... I will guess by a scum power, giving them an extra night. We had something like this in Gay Mafia I. Very safe late wagon for scum, given the alternative being probably town. 2 scums on this one.

P=.25

Iecerint
Wyrd
SlumberPartyBois
DeltaWave
Zoidberg
vollkan
Kawaii
BT

Not Voting - 11 (Mini-Librarian, zoraster, TheButtonmen, dramonic,

Quilford

,

JacobSavage

, Pretentiousdra, TheTrollie,

DrippingGoofball

)

Scum would be really dumb not to be on this lynch. One scum is dead, one on the chopping block, leaving 3 scum according to P-dra so I would say only 1 scum here.

P=.12

Mini-Librarian
zoraster
TheButtonmen
dramonic

Pretentiousdra

TheTrollie

Ythan

- 11 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint, Wyrd, SlumberPartyBois, DeltaWave, Zoidberg, vollkan, Kawaii,

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

, Pretentiousdra)

Scum has no excuse not to bus here. Still two scums if not three.

P=.25

Iecerint
Wyrd
SlumberPartyBois
DeltaWave
Zoidberg
vollkan
Kawaii

Pretentiousdra

Not Voting - 11 (Mini-Librarian, zoraster, TheButtonmen, dramonic,

JacobSavage

, TheTrollie, BT

Again, not bus'ing is foolhardy there *may* be one scum here:

P=.025

Mini-Librarian
zoraster
TheButtonmen
dramonic
TheTrollie
BT

[DrippingGoofball]

Feel free to lynch me, but give me some time to finish my analysis. It won't be long as I have badminton tonight.

[DrippingGoofball]

A cursory look:

(1) Zoidberg's voting record is not as townie as his post content.
(2) vollkan's voting record makes me uneasy.
(3) SPB's votingn record is very scum.
(4) If Trollie is confirmable town, I'll run the calculations separately with him counted as town.

Lemme put that in Excel.

Hold on.

[DrippingGoofball]

got bad reads too

You can judge tomorrow after I'm dead.

Doesn't matter if I'm lynched... I'm probably the next NK so it's all the same to me.

Shut up and let me do my calculations, scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Make yourself useful and tell me what happened to the Drench slot.

[DrippingGoofball]

What is your

p

the probability of?

P of scum, I will add them up.

[DrippingGoofball]

Thanks, fixed in datasheet.

148 Zoidberg
143 Slumberpartybois
115 Iecerint
110 zoraster
95 Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)
87 TheTrollie
82 The Mini-Librarian Nobody Special
75 vollkan
62 TheButtonmen whispersilk
58 BT
50 0DeltaWave
25 Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
25 dramonic
12 Pretentiousdra

[DrippingGoofball]

OK so assuming P-dra as town won't change the calculations all that much.

Let's see what happens to the numbers if Trollie can prove he's town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sorry, I noticed a small clerical error that shouldn't change much.

148 Zoidberg
143 Slumberpartybois
123 Iecerint
118 zoraster
100 TheTrollie
95 The Mini-Librarian Nobody Special
95 Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)
75 vollkan
75 TheButtonmen whispersilk
58 BT
50 DeltaWave
25 Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
25 dramonic
17 Pretentiousdra

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hey DGB can you show us your face when you add up your probabilities and you get probabilities of people being scum that are greater than 1?

I'm betting it'll be the same look as every dubmass who doesn't understand how non-independent events work.

I'm ADDING the probabilities and multiplying by 100.

So it's no longer P{x} but a point construct.

[DrippingGoofball]

Okay... those "probabilities" are completely flawed.

1. as mentioned, they're not just independent dice rolls
   
2. based on conjecture
   
3. don't take into account subjective situations

Aw, that's how it works and I have tremendous success with it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm ADDING the probabilities and multiplying by 100.

For dependent events you're supposed to multiply them. Your probabilities have zero mathematical meaning.

They have zero mathematical meaning. I know that. It doesn't change anything.

[DrippingGoofball]

if you want to fix it multiply all of the (1-P(scum)s together.

Then take 1-the answer to get P(scum)

Pedit: Yeah it's still useless

Chesskid, I literally hate your guts.

You may be town, but I still hate your guts.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm ADDING the probabilities and multiplying by 100.

For dependent events you're supposed to multiply them. Your probabilities have zero mathematical meaning.

You are sounding like caught scum. Is that by design or by accident?

[DrippingGoofball]

Subsituting with TheTrollie as town:

155 Zoidberg
147 Slumberpartybois
134 Iecerint
129 zoraster
111 TheTrollie
103 The Mini-Librarian Nobody Special
102 Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)
83 TheButtonmen whispersilk
82 vollkan
58 BT
54 DeltaWave
29 dramonic
25 Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
14 Pretentiousdra

[DrippingGoofball]

And you are sounding like scum presenting bogus information under the guise of analysis. Is that by design or by accident?

I've been doing this sort of analysis mid-game since the dawn of time, why the sudden challenge? Look up my history. Or crawl back to your QT and ask for assistance.

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155 Zoidberg

147 Slumberpartybois

134 Iecerint
129 zoraster
111 TheTrollie
103 The Mini-Librarian Nobody Special
102 Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)
83 TheButtonmen whispersilk
82 vollkan
58 BT

54 DeltaWave

29 dramonic
25 Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
14 Pretentiousdra

The above underlined is notable.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also of note, vollkan rates pretty high given his low profile.

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NUWEN COME QUICK

ITS MY FAVORITE RERUN OF DGB'S "THROW WORDS N NUMBERS AT THREAD UNTIL SEEN AS TOWN"

LETS SEE IF IT ENDS DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME

GOD YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCUM

YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING, NOTHING BUT TUNNEL ON ME
And YOU GO

WAH WAH WAH

DGB TRIED TO KILL ME AND I WAS DOC-PROTECTED

LIKE ANY SCUM WOULD TRY TO KILL YOU, YOU BONEHEAD

YOU ARE MORE USELESS THAN A BICYCLE FOR A FISH

I SHOULD HAVE LET YOUR BUDDIES BUS YOU

[DrippingGoofball]

I've been doing this sort of analysis mid-game since the dawn of time, why the sudden challenge?

"The sudden challenge"? This is the first game we've played together, how can it be sudden? Are you suggesting I should have barged into past games and called you out on it?

Well, it's sudden for me.

[DrippingGoofball]

NOBODY TARGETED YOU

ESPECIALLY NOT THE DOCTOR WHO PROTECTED THE CLAIMED COP

YOU'RE STILL ALIVE BECAUSE YOU BLOW CHUNKS

[DrippingGoofball]

YOU HEAR THAT WYRD

YOU ARE SCUM

AS TOWN YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS

YOU ARE EVEN AWESOME

BUT THIS LEVEL OF SUCK

IS FATESCUM AS ITS SCUMMIEST

WEREN'T WE SCUM TOGETHER RECENTLY

YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF BLOWING CHUNKS?

[DrippingGoofball]

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SCUM IN THIS THREAD WYRD

THE SCUM IS LISTED IN YOUR ROLE PM

YOU JUST WANT ME TO DIE AND YOUR BUDDIES HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES

[DrippingGoofball]

NUWEN COME QUICK

ITS MY FAVORITE RERUN OF DGB'S "THROW WORDS N NUMBERS AT THREAD UNTIL SEEN AS TOWN"

LETS SEE IF IT ENDS DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME

GOD YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCUM

YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING, NOTHING BUT TUNNEL ON ME
And YOU GO

WAH WAH WAH

DGB TRIED TO KILL ME AND I WAS DOC-PROTECTED

LIKE ANY SCUM WOULD TRY TO KILL YOU, YOU BONEHEAD

YOU ARE MORE USELESS THAN A BICYCLE FOR A FISH

I SHOULD HAVE LET YOUR BUDDIES BUS YOU

yeah see if you were TOWN you'd read me as town here and then we'd be fine cause I would also read you as town

But you did this whole "WYRD SO TOWN GUIZ" d1, then tried to rewrite history by saying "WELL I ONLY THOUGHT NUWEN WAS TOWN"

then when confronted that all of those "nuwen" posts were me posts, you avoided the issue completely and have been doing nothing but singing "WYRDSCUMZ WYRDDUMBZ" the entire time

When you die and flip scum I'll have gotten 3/x scums already. I was the FIRST to call out Ythan scum and the REASON TH got lynched

PLEASE ADDRESS THE MASSIVE FAIL OF SCUMHUNTING YOU ARE IN THIS GAME

YOU OOZING PIECE OF RAW MAFIA SUCKAGE

BUT MAFIA SUCKAGE IS YOUR STRATEGY TO AVOID THE NK

BY BEING A THREAT TO NO ONE

YOUR CONTINUED SURVIVAL IS ASSURED AT NIGHT

AND YOUR BUDDIES AREN'T BUSSING

[DrippingGoofball]

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR SCUM IN THIS THREAD WYRD

THE SCUM IS LISTED IN YOUR ROLE PM

YOU JUST WANT ME TO DIE AND YOUR BUDDIES HAVE OTHER PRIORITIES

YOU CAUGHT ME

IM ACTUALLY A LYNCHER

A LYNCHER TO SCUM WITH YOUR ENTIRE TEAM IN MY ROLE PM

IM NOT REALLY DIS GEWD

VERY FUNNY

WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SCUM

NOWHERE

YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR SCUM

ANYWHERE

YOUR GOAL IS SELF-PRESERVATION

[DrippingGoofball]

YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T GOT AFTER SCUM, THEY WON'T NK YOU

YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T RUFFLE FEATHERS, YOU WON'T BE LYNCHED EITHER

BUT SHOUTING TO LYNCH A SINGLE TOWNIE,

THAT'S SAFE ISN'T IT, YOU SCUMBAG.

[DrippingGoofball]

Well, it's sudden for me.

Gloriosky, DGB. New people bring new perspectives; stop the presses.

I've been doing this for at least 5 years.

[DrippingGoofball]

Zoidberg, bus your buddy FateWyrd thanks.

[DrippingGoofball]

AND SOMEONE, SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SAVE SPB'S SCUMMY BUTT.

Please act on this after I'm dead. The scum has been on me like a low-grade fever all game.

[DrippingGoofball]

And now that a buddy is in danger, they're putting the rectal thermometer on the lamp bulb.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE: dgb

i am all perspired and shit...too many numbers...need to make sure this makes sense for scumdgb to do. DGB have a history for throwing hail marys like that?

also:

NUWEN COME QUICK

ITS MY FAVORITE RERUN OF DGB'S "THROW WORDS N NUMBERS AT THREAD UNTIL SEEN AS TOWN"

LETS SEE IF IT ENDS DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME

im warming up to ^this^ being scum

thank yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou

Finally

[DrippingGoofball]

SPB AGREED THAT BELLA PROTECTED ME

And DW disagreed.

SPB is YOUR BUDDY

HE'S GOING TO AGREE WITH YOU

AND GOD KNOWS WHAT OTHER POWERS YOUR SCUMTEAM HAS

TO TAKE THE GAME TO QUICK, UNEXPECTED SUDDEN SCUMWIN

LIKE GAY MAFIA 1

[DrippingGoofball]

Siding with Wryd here tbh

Gut is telling me to look at Kawaii DGB Dram vollkan

Haven't even started reading yet but whatever

Assuming ONE of you is town you should know better than take up a whole page of the thread in a matter of minutes with this capswar

we need 6 to lynch right now, i'm reminding you since you're not really reading.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Zoidberg

You can check The Sopranos Mafia, an ancient large theme modded by Mastermind of Sin, but that's after I'd been doing wagon analysis for a while. It's one I remember off the top of my head.

[DrippingGoofball]

@dgb...and an answer to my question?

were u thanking me for my speculation of wyrd?

YES

I'm amazed that he's not being looked at more closely, he's basically done nothing at all the entire game but call me scum. He's totally not scumhunting. He's trying to avoid being lynched but not pissing anyone off but one person, and trying to avoid being NK'd.

Given how regularly and early I get myself NK'd, going after me during the day is really dumb. Just wait for a night without a power role to kill, and normally I shouldn't make it for very long.

I should never be let into end game, though. DGB in endgame has to be scum (unless I'm replacing at LyLo but that might never have happened).

[DrippingGoofball]

You're just saying that cus I was in that game

It's always about you, you little attention whore.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's a shitload of roles that give info on alignments.

Are you sad because that's unfair to your scumteam? You want to off a few information roles?

But oh, SPB vs. DW, now, THAT can wait.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Zoidberg

You can check The Sopranos Mafia, an ancient large theme modded by Mastermind of Sin, but that's after I'd been doing wagon analysis for a while. It's one I remember off the top of my head.

Oh DGB.

Wagon analysis is not my problem. My problem is your seemingly purposeful misinterpretation of the

implications

of your wagon analysis. You are claiming that I have ~140% probability of being scum based on where I voted.

1. You didn't formulate those probabilities correctly
   
2. You are attempting to pass them off as fact
   
3. They are based on assumption

I have no doubt you use this technique all the time. But pointing at the analysis itself and saying "I do this as town therefore I am town" is not proof that you are town. The act itself means nothing. The conclusions you draw and the implications you make are telling.

Furthermore, why aren't you voting me if I have the most imaginary scumpoints on your silly scale?

I don't explain everything in detail every time, it gets tedious. Most of the time people have already seen this.

If you have particular questions, I'll take the time to explain it to you, but bear in mind that I'm playing badminton tonight and I'm leaving in 15 minutes, and when I come back I like to shower and I can't guarantee you'll get your answer before morning unless you ask me rIght nOW.

[DrippingGoofball]

You didn't formulate those probabilities correctly >>> I'm using probabilities to assign a value to each un-flipped player on each wagon, but past that, I'm not doing "math" anymore, but it doesn't matter since all that is needed is an ORDERED list. The numbers are relative. They don't need to represent a unit of something.

You are attempting to pass them off as fact >>> it's a fact for me. I also look at behavioral clues and give them lots of weight. The wagon analysis is useful to point out people that you might have otherwise overlooked. It's not the end-all.

They are based on assumption >>> this assumption is based on experience that there is always more scum ON wagons, than OFF wagons. Depending on how the game goes, it usually gets harder and harder to get a townie lynch unless there is scum on it, with every passing day.

[DrippingGoofball]

Furthermore, why aren't you voting me if I have the most imaginary scumpoints on your silly scale?

Because I'm certain that SPB is scum, he ranks very high on the scale, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Other things to consider, is that Wyrd is voting singularly tight, meta-speaking. He usually votes more and more freely.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spd vs DW can wait to see if they have mirrored abilities each night

They have conflicting results.

Are you smoking crack?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm using probabilities to assign a value

Yes, I know.

But the probabilities are not actual probabilities.

This is the point that I am making and the point that you are dodging.

Your value is meaningless if the numbers you construct it from are also meaningless.

Look. It works.

It's a number based on the number of expected scum on the wagon and the number of unflipped players.

You're uncommonly defensive about this, aren't you.

[DrippingGoofball]

I wasn't thinking you were scum, Zoidberg, but the way you're getting all hot over the collar over this even after I tell you that I find SPB vastly more guilty than you is giving me pause.

[DrippingGoofball]

Because I'm certain that SPB is scum, he ranks very high on the scale, too.

And Zoraster who's 4th on your silly scale is basically confirmed town.

Wow Ms Curie, what an amazing scientific system you've constructed there

WOW you sure are spending a lot of effort trying to discredit this!

I think zoraster is town, too.

It's a scale, you turkey. Most players on it are going to flip town.

Combine it with behavioral tells.

YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE SCUM CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS

BIG TIME

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: wyrd

i was mostly asking because u havent been voting wyrd yet you were so pleased that I was expressing a scum read on them

VOTE: Wyrd

It's a heartbreak to let SPB go, though, 'cuz it's a sure bet scumbag.

[DrippingGoofball]

Wyrd of SPB.

Those are my choices today.

I'll swing either.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: Are you more confident that Wyrd is scum over SPB?

They're close, those are the two people I'd like to see lynched today.

Wyrd is hardly wagoning, which is unusual and unexpected, meta-wise. He's been tunneling on a single person, and not scum hunting. He's definitely not town.

SPB is very wagon-happy. His speech doesn't strike me as particularly scummy, but unlike some people here, I don't believe in two Honey Boo Boo Gods or whatever that role is. The discrepancy with the Wyrd watch N2 (DW says no visitor, SPB says scum visitor) is unsettling. The length it took for SPB to say that Ythan targeted Wyrd is also VERY SUSPICIOUS, since the guy ism, you know, dead. What was SPB pretending to protect, earlier on?

If SPB and Wyrd are buddies, they're backing each other up, because the numbers aren't clearly in really in scum's favor right now. If one believes that SPB is town, then one would believe that Wyrd is town, too, because why would Ythan-scum target a scumpal?

So I think Wyrd & SPB are in cahoots with each other.

[DrippingGoofball]

I thought they both watched Wyrd.

[DrippingGoofball]

Trollie gonna coast to vic, gg

Where does that come from??????????????

[DrippingGoofball]

Even you dreamio godio

only thing of value i can claim at this point is that

i got a watch on you n2

. hence why i was saying so definitely that bella did not protect you. additionally, ythan targeted you (obvies.) can say for sure there was no kill submitted on you n2 but i think it unwise to claim any further visits that may or may not have occurred on you

My flavor is that I'm literally God and I have a Zune that contains seventeen Elton John songs. I can force one person to listen to a song each night.

N1: Targeted Ythan with "I Feel Like a Bullet (In the Gun of Robert Ford)" because it sounded like it would kill him. I got no indication of what happened. There's a possibility this did the governor thing next day but I'm not sure.

N2: Targeted Wyrd

with "Postcards from Richard Nixon." This was a watch ability. Nobody visited him.
N3: Targeted The Butt On Men with "Your Song." I don't know what this did.

I apologize for my mental retardation.

[DrippingGoofball]

HAS NOT CONTRIBUTED TO FIGURING OUT NIGHT ACTION RESOLUTION

Oh get lost

I suck at that

Especially in RECK games

And it's not like I have anything illuminating to add to it if you get my drift.

I'm town, YOU SHOULD KNOW I'M TOWN BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW I OPERATE.

FATE knows I'm town.

You are tunneling to avoid scumhunting and to self-preserve, that is not townie thing to do


DIE SCUM DIE

[DrippingGoofball]

SCUM HAVE TO SHOOT DANGEROUS THINGS THEY CAN'T LYNCH SCUM HAVE TO SHOOT DANGEROUS THINGS THEY CAN'T LYNCH).

WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE YOU BONEHEAD

YOU HAVE JUST PROVEN ME TOWN

YOU SCUMBAG

[DrippingGoofball]

CAN WE LYNCH THE SCUM?

I'M PRETTY SURE I'LL NEVER GET HIM TO 'FESS UP

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY

WITH ROPE

[DrippingGoofball]

Also I notice DGB completely evaporated after it was shown she wasn't reading the thread.

My analysis is shit and no one wants to see not-scumhunting-fatescum?

Screw you all.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: TBM

[DrippingGoofball]

And there is no way Bella would be so stupid as to protect Wyrd over a claimed cop, because no one is that stupid.

[DrippingGoofball]

THere is also no way that the scum is targeting Wyrd for death on account of the obscene uselessness of that player slot.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB is looking defeated right now

Deflate my ass

[DrippingGoofball]

I remember once a game where Fate was scum, he tunneled on me all day hoping I'd be cop'ed, and at night he framed me. He was a framer.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: TBM

DBG scumclaimed in this post in TBM flips town.

That was the lynch btw.

so TBM claim now pretty please.

Yeah I know

I'm scum if I vote
I'm scum if I don't vote
I'm scum if I shit to the left
I'm scum if I shit to the right

[DrippingGoofball]

we actually don't cop obvious lynches.

I wasn't cop'ed actually, so he wasted his time and his framing action.

[DrippingGoofball]

SPB & Wyrd are scum

Mark my words

I will not survive this night

[DrippingGoofball]

You lynched before he claimed without warning.

Oh shut up he's a L-1

[DrippingGoofball]

I got a message from the mod that Kawaii is guilty.

VOTE: Kawaii

[DrippingGoofball]

Kawaii does not read the game

THEBUTTONMEN IS SCUM HELLO

I see Fate's got an excellent track record of keeping accounts straight.

= Useless comment. Hidden among the spam, but TBM only has 13 posts total.

I'm slowly slogging through this disaster and I'm working on setting everything up for the MEGASUPERAWESOMEEXCITING MARATHON HOLIDAY EXTRAVAGANZA! so yeah ~excuses~

= excuses are scummy.

Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

= While I sympathize, this is a third useless post out of 13.

TheButtonmen

)

so let's do it this way:

Big names get to tell me why they're not voting for Thunderhog right meow. If you've already said something to this effect,

QUOTE

your words in response to this post. I do

NOT

want to hear "my vote is on someone scummier," because it's not.

Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

I have been in this game for just over a day now, it is 71 pages long, I hate everything.

= More uselessness, 4/13.

Huh.

Well that's good to know.

= More utter and complete uselessness, 5/13.

I'm busy christmasing yo I'll be back tomorrow night.

= More excuses and uselessness, 6/13.

Alrighty Im back from VLA, post should be going up later tonight.

= More excuses and uselessness, 7/13.

These wagons are bad.
@OD: Why is it so hard to lynch you again?

I don't care if you respond in bullet form but what's your top complaints with them?

= More excuses and uselessness, just asking a dumb question without follow up, 8/13.

Hmn I agree Jacobs play while I didn't see it happen in real time D1 doesn't seem at all scumlike to me so I'm also not interested in this wagon at all.

Thoughts on Zoidberg?

Now we have an OPINION! Unjustified "JS-not-scum" plus putting the onus back on someone else to make a case on Zoidberg.

Vote: Zoidberg

I endorse this wagon and/or service.

= one minute after asking for thoughts on Zoidberg, wagon push! So out of everyone, after making a bunch of worthless posts and excuses, TBM declares JS to be town. A minute ago, he needed someone's help to determine Zoidberg's alignment. After that minute, he gathered all the required facts and Zoidberg is scum!

I have read the game and zoid is consistently scummy through out. Jacob is just bad at mafia and flailing.

If TBM has read the game, why so few opinions, so many excuses, and complete uselessness?

Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

After being challenged by DeltaWave, TBM suddenly decided that JS is THIRD PARTY!!! While he won't lynch JS, he's backing off calling him town, just some third party player WHOSE LYNCH HE'S STEADFAST AGAINST!!!

No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

Willing to hop on another possible wagon that doesn't involve

not-town-but-maybe-third-party

JacobSavage.

I make terrible life decisions.

= Yet another useless post 9/13.

TL;DR

69% completely useless.
Only 13 posts.
Refuses to lynch "not-town-but-third-party" JacobSavage
It takes one minute to determine Zoidberg to be scum and only scum with no appeal.

VOTE: TheButtonmen

[DrippingGoofball]

Kawaii. where oh where did you announce suspicion of TBM???

NOWHERE

*rakes the hair in my wig*

- to satisfy requirements for fabulosity.

[DrippingGoofball]

[sung to the tune of "Dancing Queen" by ABBA]

@DGB: You expect me to believe that without you claiming why or how you got this info?

I don't know why and how, therefore I do not trust it entirely myself. It might come from scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

*plucks eyebrows*

Krap I'm going to get myself modkilled within the next 20 minutes.

[DrippingGoofball]

*Shaving legs*

Kawaii went hard after Fate Day 1, almost going 1 on 1 and entreating everyone to vote Wyrd. Would Kawaii bus Wyrd that hard?

Then

after trying to get Fate lynched, Kawaii switched gears completely, and went after Fate's tunnel, ie, me.

*Putting on nylons*

Kawaii votes:

Vote: OD

Vote: P-dra

vote: BT
vote: Zoidberg

vote: Wyrd

vote: DGB
vote: Buttons

*Choosing lipstick*

[DrippingGoofball]

This might be noteworthy:

So check this out: dueling counterclaims are an easy situation for scum to figure out. You pick one or the other and can spend the entire day obfuscating anything else you do with screaming for one side of the deckout. The REAL town play here is to realize that high-power counterclaims eventually resolve themselves, because there are two anti-town factions in this game that don't want a bomb power role alive.

Scum want to lynch counterclaims in this situation, a town reaction probably pauses a little. You can currently see that Phydra agrees here; night actions will prob resolve conflicting claims. He has modified his lynch priorities for the day accordingly, which is pretty natural town behavior.

Wyrdscum was in favor of letting SPB vs. DW "play itself out" in night actions. He encouraged us to let both SPB & DW live. He wanted to lynch me harder when I wanted to resolve those two claims, and praised P-dra for hanging back on it.

*Flashes vintage panties*

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah well that's why I asked where TM was cus I was too lazy to read. >.> I'm guilty of being a cutey pie, ik this already. That's a slimey reason to push my lynch without repercussion d6. *twitch*.... pedit: you're serious to see this through?

You ARE scum, like your buddy Wyrd was scum, but you've been very good at eroding at my credibility with tunneling and baseless accusations, so I'm not sure that even I can convince the town to lynch you.

As for the mod-message, I take it with a grain of salt.

*Puts on heels*

[DrippingGoofball]

Nice try DGB.

Except that Kise was running the hydra after I went on winter break. Plus, he was right that TH was scum D1 so.

That reminds me fuck all of you guys I'm still the best when it comes to reading Fate kthx (looking at you kise faraday and kanye)

Still fairly certain that DGB is scum though just look at how she hopped along with that TBM wagon. She was Fate's designated bus. Just watch their fights last day, and then how they both converge on poor buttons.

Lastly, it is impossible that you got any message from the mods regarding us so once again nice try.

VOTE: DGB

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAYYYYAAAAAAAYAYA DGB'S STILL SCUM!

Vote: DGB

Hey smartaleck

1. How can you tell the difference between Wyrd bus'ing me and

you bus'ing Wyrd

?

2. How come you never called out Wyrd as bus'ing me, and you just voted me??? If you believed Wyrd was bus'ing me, you would have voted him or me. RIGHT???? RIGHT, SCUMBAG???? But you only voted me after the Day 1 Wyrd wagon faltered.

*Puts on fake boobs*

[DrippingGoofball]

reminds me of that spyspy mod game where parama and fate bussed the fuck out of each other d1, and I got lynched d2 for voting scumFate over scumparama.

*Squeezes cucumber in crotch*

WHAT ABOUT YOUR WYRD BUS'ING

FOLLOWED BY YOUR BUDDYING UP TO WYRD

Don't give me that shit about past games and other players

[DrippingGoofball]

If Fate and I were ever scum together, we'd probably double bus the fuck out of one another and drown the thread in caps.

But sadly, Fate and I have never been scum together in all these years so.

BS

The two of you are scum now

Don't speak in the conditional tense

You are more transparent than water

*Admires self in mirror*

[DrippingGoofball]

why you voting Wyrd then?

[DrippingGoofball]

Voting along with Wyrd's main "suspect" THAT'S BUDDYING

[DrippingGoofball]

*flustered eyelashes*

Mod see how fabulous my avatar is and I'm totally fabulously emotional and someone hand me a fan and my smelling salts.

[DrippingGoofball]

Voting along with Wyrd's main "suspect" THAT'S BUDDYING

*Fabulous fabulous fabulous*

You voted the person Wyrd was tunneling, but past Day 1, you wouldn't vote your mega-scumread and your perfect Fate-read record...

SCUMBAG

DIE DIE DIE

*Fabulous fabulous fabulous*

[DrippingGoofball]

Kawaii I caught your buddy (though I foolishly defended him Day 1) and no one listened...

...and now I caught you

And if I'm wrong that you're scum...

I'll vote myself all day tomorrow if you remaining buddy doesn't kill me.

*I'm listening to Justin Bieber right now*

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB when'd you become a politician? You planning on running for the Bloc or what?

Sorry mods I forgot about that, Kise was objecting to eyeliner.

Fuck you Kawaii you scumbag I never voted for these asswipes and I have to pay for their pension funds, you can bet your scummy ass I'm not "running for the Bloc" so DIAF. NDP all the way since 1996.

*I'm listening to Justin Bieber right now*

I swear to god if Kawaii doesn't get his neck kissed by the rope today, I'M GOING TO HAVE KITTENS.

Please give me this satisfaction of leading the scumbag to the hangman.

*I'm listening to Adam Lambert right now*

[DrippingGoofball]

*Having my nails done*

Seriously everybody, I'm down on my knees.

I am offering my earthly envelope and all my drag queen wardrobe if you please, please, I BEG YOU, please lynch Kawaii

today

.

If I am wrong about this one, KILL ME TOMORROW.

If I am wrong about this one, I will live in shame forever and

pledge to make one large post everyday in the Dead QT commenting on every single post in the game past my death.

*Trying to fit my giant feet in size 10 heels*

[DrippingGoofball]

<fabulous>

Pretentiousdra

- 7 (

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

, Zoidberg,

Om of the Nom

, Slumberpartybois, BT, Drench)

Wyrd

- 8 (Slumberpartybois,

Kawaii

,

Pretentiousdra

, zoraster,

Gammagooey

, Nobody Special,

One Direction

,

Quilford

)

Zoidberg - 4 (

kuribo

,

Ythan

,

ThunderHog

,

Om of the Nom

)

***

ThunderHog

- 13 (vollkan,

Gammagooey

, Zoidberg,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie,

kuribo

,

Om of the Nom

, Nobody Special, zoraster, dramonic,

JacobSavage

,

Nachomamma8

)

zoraster - 5 (

Pretentiousdra

,

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

,

JacobSavage

,

DrippingGoofball

)

JacobSavage

- 6 (

DeltaWave

, Iecerint,

Quilford

, Slumberpartybois, Zoidberg, zoraster)

***

Ythan

- 9 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

, SlumberPartyBois,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

, BT)

Not Voting - 11 (Mini-Librarian, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

Quilford

,

JacobSavage

,

Pretentiousdra

, TheTrollie,

DrippingGoofball

)

***

Ythan

- 11 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

, SlumberPartyBois,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

,

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Pretentiousdra

)

Not Voting - 11 (Mini-Librarian, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

JacobSavage

, TheTrollie, BT

***

TheButtonmen

- 6 (

Pretentiousdra

, Zoidberg,

Kawaii

, The Mini-Librarian,

Wyrd

,

DrippingGoofball

)
Slumberpartybois - 4 (

DrippingGoofball

, zoraster, dramonic,

DeltaWave

)
***

DrippingGoofball

- 5 (Slumberpartybois,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie)

*** denotes a wagon where Kawaii is voting along with his mega-scum-read WYRD. I actually don't think this is a tell, but I had to point out the irony of Kawaii accusing me of voting along with my suspects.

</fabulous>

[DrippingGoofball]

*batting false eyelashes, re-positioning patsies*

No. Katsuki has been posting a lot, and regularly.

[DrippingGoofball]

I kinda like SPBz/wyrd team...what was the reason i was so convinced SPBz was town?

*Faggy fag fag fag fag*

Those were my fabulous thoughts yesterday, girlfriend. The way Wyrdscum jumped on me for believing DeltaWave over SPB... that was rather telling.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's a shitload of roles that give info on alignments.

Are you sad because that's unfair to your scumteam? You want to off a few information roles?

But oh, SPB vs. DW, now, THAT can wait.

Hey sisterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Check this out, sweet butterflies

Yesterday I noticed that both Wyrd and Kawaii wanted to put SPB vs. DW on the backburner!!!

That's because they're pals, my cucumbers.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB read on SPB?

Would really love to just lynch her and work out these two tomorrow... but even then, don't think both are town (2 protown watches in a single night is broken as fuck)

This post is dumb. Or scum.

Kawaii wants to lynch me but wants my opinion on SPB (dumb thing #1), which should be abundantly clear given where my vote is (dumb thing #2). Then even Kawaii himsef admits that one of SPB & DW is scum, and has decided it's DW (dumb thing #3), which means that Kawaii believes that DW is scum with P > 50%. YET Kawaii WILL NOT VOTE SOMEONE WITH more than a 50% chance of being scum!!! (dumb thing #4)

But Kawaii wants to lynch me today (dumb thing #5), have his DW tomorrow(dumb thing #6), and keep his SPB buddy alive one more day... to LyLo maybe? I haven't calculated.

If SPB is scum, Fate is scum, Kawaii is scum.

Please refer back to this post after I'm dead.

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadies!!!!

[DrippingGoofball]

-DW claims not to have seen SPB's Dreaming God claim during D1 (posted in the hydra QT made public).
-DW counterclaims Dreaming God.
-SPBs claims a watch on Pdra N2, won't say what results were
-DW claims a watch on Wyrd N2, says nobody visited Wyrd.

Giiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Looking down memory lane

Now we know DW was telling the troooooooooooooooothfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[DrippingGoofball]

KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII
KILL KAWAII

It's the gay thing to do

SPB is sketch but less fabulously scum than Kawaii.

[DrippingGoofball]

Eat a ballgag, Kawaii.

I can't know for sure who sent the message - plenty of players haven't posted.

STOP SNIFFING NAIL POLISH

[DrippingGoofball]

If Fate and I were ever scum together, we'd probably double bus the fuck out of one another

and drown the thread in caps.

Damn straight.

Gay emoticons below:

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey everyone

Remember how I pointed out that Wyrd wasn't scumhunting, and nobody believed me???

Kawaii ain't scumhunting, either.

Because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because
the wonderful world of Oz

[DrippingGoofball]

[Sung to the tune of "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Miserables]

VOTE: DGB

Unless someone claims to be cause of that "message" to her, this is the play.

I got a message night 3 as well, and no one claimed that one. I'm not sure why anyone would own up to the most recent one, but if they did, it would be most appreciated.

*flips feather boa*

The message was just an ASCII dick, so a little HARDer to interpret than the nigh 4 message.

Mini-Lib: you're voting the townie and you're letting the scum live.

[DrippingGoofball]

dgb are u willing to go spbz?

Dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks
dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks
dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks

SPB is keeping is suspiciously low profile today. He might be waiting to hammer me to protect scum-Kawaii.

Both need to die.

I was thinking of something.

DW said that no one targeted Wyrd N2 when Bella died, so we know this is true with DW dead and flipping town.

SPB said that Ythan targeted P-dra.

But P-dra didn't die.

Which means that in all likelihood, Bella did in fact protect P-dra the claimed cop, as she should have.

If Bella did in fact protect P-dra the claimed cop, as she should have, then SPB should have gotten a Bella>P-dra visit from his Watch action.

i actually agree with fate here. i dont think bella protected pdra and its more likely, from her posting/crumbing, that she protected fate

But SPB couldn't say that, because Wyrd was going on and on about how he was the one that Bella had protected. Wyrd was trying to obfuscate the night actions to make it hard for us to figure out what happened.

So SPB went along with Wyrd's "Bella protected Wyrd over the claimed cop" nonsense, and made up some fakery about some other mystery protection role.

alright. the only person to target you n2 was ythan. no one else visited you. which is why i was loathe to claim whether or not anyone else visited you.

^^^ This is a lie.

Dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks
dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks
dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks

[DrippingGoofball]

1 vig shot
1 SK shot
1 Mafia shot

One kill is missing N2, which means that Bella SUCCESSFULLY protected P-dra.

Penises!!!!!
Penises!!!!!
Penises!!!!!
Penises!!!!!
Penises!!!!!
Penises!!!!!

SPB definitely lying.

[DrippingGoofball]

I received TWO messages.

One last night, one the night before that.

Nice how you skirt the SPB ISSUE ENTIRELY.

I'm awaiting your comments on SPB.

[DrippingGoofball]

I used the word SKIRT in the last post, how fabulous is that??????????

I have a sneaking suspicion that Mini-Librarian is behind these messages.

[DrippingGoofball]

1 vig shot
1 SK shot
1 Mafia shot

One kill is missing N2, which means that Bella SUCCESSFULLY protected P-dra.

SPB definitely lying.

this doesnt follow. a bodyguard wouldn't prevent a kill it would change its target

The bodyguard dies instead of its target.

So if Bella targeted P-dra, and P-dra was targeted for death, Bella would die in his stead.

I believe this is exactly what happened.

Also cocks cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks
cocks

[DrippingGoofball]

I could easily see KatsukiScum with WyrdTown, but WyrdScum really changes my perspective. I have a hard time believing that a Wyrd+Katsuki scumteam would have led to what happened D1. It looked like mean meta-site stuff to me -- not like bussing.

I need to re-read D1 with WyrdScum in mind.

I hate to point this out as Wyrd tunneled on me, but Wyrd bussed Thunderhog, and Ythan. And Kawaii.

Everyone ejaculate yay!

[DrippingGoofball]

but the mafia has a doctor of some sort

I have not considered this possibility.

Judy Garlan FOREVER, gurlzzzzzzzzzz

[DrippingGoofball]

Maybe I need to buy a subscription to luminosity.com or something... puzzles have never been my forte.

What's my forte?

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[DrippingGoofball]

Well girls

I can't be the only one receiving messages

Some people aren't talking.

COCKS

[DrippingGoofball]

COOL

Layyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydies

Two scums are voting for me right now

[DrippingGoofball]

why didnt you mention the ASCII dick first up though?

I thought the mod was coming on to me.

I was waiting for someone to mention it first, which didn't happen. Also it was peculiar that no one mentioned receiving messages on prior nights.

It didn't seem wise to mention this when Wyrd and his scummy minions were spending all their energy trying to discredit me and lynch me - especially when the dick had no effect that I could observe.

Not to change the subject,

Where is SPB??????

It's a freaking lurking HYDRA.

YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA.

[DrippingGoofball]

COOL

Layyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydies

Two scums are voting for me right now

[Sung to the tune of "Tik Tok" by Ke$ha]

So I'm scum, Kawaii's scum and SPB is scum? Well we might as well go home now, cause I believe DGB has found the remaining scum folks.

Two scums are on my wagon. I am certain of this.

One player is letting itself be influenced by the scum.

Mini-Librarian, did it occur to you yesterday that Wyrd may be scum?

Let me throw your words back at you:

Wyrd, why would scum dw counterclaim a role unprompted when two of his partners are already dead? Also did you get anything that might have come from SPB last night? The time to claim that was like two pages ago.

Honestly Wyrd, do you really think both Dreaming God claims are town? I mean even Kawaii doesn't believe that bullshit.

And yet, it never occurred to you that Wyrd was scum. Isn't that interesting.

Come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue, come on, vogue.

[DrippingGoofball]

[Sung to the tune of "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" by Kylie Minogue]

@DGB: To be honest I had a town read on Wyrd when I replaced in. Those posts you quoted were the beginning of my read on him deteriorating, but not nearly enough for me to vote him.

I accept that.

I also accept cocks.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want more people to show up so that I can put their feet to the fire.

Also sausages, hot dogs and wieners.

[DrippingGoofball]

zoraster are you usually this lurky and useless this late in the game?

Must say I've never actually seen you play.

Is this a sideways defense of SPB?

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[DrippingGoofball]

But you got the luckiest 1 shot ever to confirm yourself, and then DGB is saying the message she got was kinda believable, aaand

I shouldn't be paranoid? DGB for zor's sake, tell the truth on whether you actually did get the PMs or if you're just fucking with me

*limp wristed*

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally

I can say with some confidence that there is no way that scum-Kawaii would exhibit this sort of thinking. It's the first solid towntell in a nerve-wrecking iso of suspicious derpage. I apologize for the accusations of double-bus'ing with Kawaii and Wyrd.

I indeed got no message last night.

And Kawaii is off my witch-hunt list. We're not lynching Kawaii. Everyone can unvote. Thanks.

VOTE: SPB

Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick Lipstick

[DrippingGoofball]

AWWWWWWWW SHEEEEEEIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

VOTE: Kawaii

You can unvote Kawaii now, you effeminate wench.

[DrippingGoofball]

PEDIT: I see, so you did that >_>
zoraster is town.

I'm saying Om didn't know who/how he got the PM..and it looks to be the same as DGB's case

And I'm saying I want her to come clean on whether she was just wanted to gambit by faking a guilty or whether I should consider you not confirmed town.

This is a towntell, too, BTW, girlfriends.

[DrippingGoofball]

No you love me,

sister

Now vote SPB

You know you want to

They know they deserve it

They are hiding in shame.

[DrippingGoofball]

Choo choo

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[DrippingGoofball]

why didnt you mention the ASCII dick first up though?

I thought the mod was coming on to me.

I was waiting for someone to mention it first, which didn't happen. Also it was peculiar that no one mentioned receiving messages on prior nights.

It didn't seem wise to mention this when Wyrd and his scummy minions were spending all their energy trying to discredit me and lynch me - especially when the dick had no effect that I could observe.

Not to change the subject,

Where is SPB??????

It's a freaking lurking HYDRA.

YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA, YMCA, you got to stay at the YMCA.

How would it discredit you? Messaging mechanics tend to be a role given to scum (the fact that that it clearly wasnt being used seriously only adds to that).

Also, you are using the word 'scummy' WAY too often - and, though I will need to check this when I get proper computer access again, it seems to have gotten worse more recently

IIoA

Fabuloooooooooooooooous!

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, you are using the word 'scummy' WAY too often

How many points that get her?

............and Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah-BOOM!

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey sisters

Magua is in the game??????????????????

Color me rainbow.

In other news... SPB's buddies aren't bus'ing, and they're lurking.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, you are using the word 'scummy' WAY too often

How many points that get her?

fabfabfab

No explanation, so:

dgb+5

Purdy sho wee weh maykin fun of yooooou, beyotch.

[DrippingGoofball]

I've read barely anything or posted anything in this game since like 70 pages ago, and I'm pretty sure kkb is sick

RL excuses, no fakeclaim about last night's fake action, this scum is ripe for the lynching. He gave up.

Someone hammer, thanks.

Ru Paul is my bestie.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am?

You should lynch me before LyLo. Maybe today. I can't wait to go to the Dead QT where all the cool kids are hanging out, sorry, losers.

Also my reads must be off somehow. Someone think that they are safe from my lynching frenzies.

[DrippingGoofball]

I do want to look at vollkan. I was re-reading that delicious SPB lynch last night, I wanted to re-live the excitement, and my mind was nagging me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Voolkan stats

Number of times Wyrd is mentioned:

0

Number of times SPB is mentioned:

1 indirect

"1) Post 385 doesn't make any sense at all as a reason to suspect BT. BT had declared his opinion on trollie and SPB, but why does that make it scummy to ask other people for their reasons?"

Number of times TH is mentioned:

Numerous times

Number of times Ythan is mentioned:

Numerous times


I find the below a suspicious lining up of a townie to the gallows if vollkan was Ythan's buddy, and vollkan knew that Ythan would flip scum.

Tentative +7 on Zoraster in the event that Ythan is scum. The reason for this that Zoraster has avoided actually stating a position one way or the other on the claim, and has instead just questioned the manner in which it was made

[DrippingGoofball]

Beyond that his contribution to the game drops off the map, and is all just asking questions and doing nothing with it. No analysis, no real stances. Claims voteless D5, but that's really no excuse.

See, that's not the vollkan-town that I know and love. Sure he's aloof with his arm's-length, opaque number system, but he's not usually this shifty and uninvolved. Was he even voted once? I don't think anyone has ever voted for vollkan. For someone with such powerful towncred potential he's done shockingly little.

[DrippingGoofball]

i kinda hate the Iec ISO as well

I always hate Iec isos, his mind operates in a way that befuddles my scumdar.

[DrippingGoofball]

just cuz im too afraid of WIFOM to keep her alive

Feel free to calculate the optimal way to keep me out of LyLo.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN
kuribo
Iecerint

Slumberpartybois (MattP)

dramonic
OneDirection
Gamma

Ythan

Om
BT
TheTrollie
DGB

NULL TO LEANING SCUM
NobodySpecial
DeltaWave
zoraster
whispersilk's slot
Nacho
Zoidberg* (was a strong scum read, but play in the last 10-15 pages was milder)

Thunderhog

Quilford
vollkan
Jacob Savage
Drench

FRUSTRATING RELATIONAL TELLS

Wyrd (Fate)

Kawaii (Katsuki)
Pretentiousdraa (CHESSKID)

I can't say these early reads are especially suspicious.

[DrippingGoofball]

This hilariously bad wagon on Wyrd is sad.
That said, Wyrd's hydra reads are awful. OD and SPB are

quite

scummier than kawaii and Chessderp.
We should still lynch BT/thunderhog first. They're full of scummy goodness.

The above was pretty spot on, especially considering how early the game was when the post was made.

[DrippingGoofball]

And zoraster only voted scum, except for JacobSavage who was scum despite his town role PM.

[DrippingGoofball]

Wyrd likely town, spb null, pretentious null/town, kawaii scum

.

1 correct read out of 4, hahaha.

But that's not the worst thing; when the debate about SPB vs. DW was raging, Zoidberg was obsessed with discrediting my wagonalysis.

[DrippingGoofball]

AWWWWWWWW SHEEEEEEIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

VOTE: Kawaii

This unexplained vote is suspicious as well.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd be okay with either Dram or TBM today.

This was Zoidberg's conclusion of the DW vs. SPB debacle: lynching Dram or TBM!

A scumbag would want to delay the DW vs. SPB dichotomy as long as possible so as not to expose his fakeclaiming buddy.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sorry, having computer problems and internet access issues right now. I've skimmed the past 10 pages, and can see there's an issue with claims. Can somebody please summarise for me what's happened?

It's best if you read it yourself,

but here are the facts. I'll leave the nuance to you.

-DW claims not to have seen SPB's Dreaming God claim during D1 (posted in the hydra QT made public).
-DW counterclaims Dreaming God.
-SPBs claims a watch on Pdra N2, won't say what results were
-DW claims a watch on Wyrd N2, says nobody visited Wyrd.
-DW claimed D1 that Ythan was probs town.
-DW later claims that N1 he used an ability on Ythan that he thought would kill him.

Emphasis mine.

Zoidbergs lists the "facts" in a way that discredits DW, while trying to look objective about it.

-DW claims not to have seen SPB's Dreaming God claim during D1 (posted in the hydra QT made public).
-DW counterclaims Dreaming God.

and especially

-DW claimed D1 that Ythan was probs town.
-DW later claims that N1 he used an ability on Ythan that he thought would kill him.

Zoidberg was protecting his buddy.

[DrippingGoofball]

So far I'm in for vollkan-SK and Zoidberg-scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

vollkan started the Thunderhog wagon D1, so I give him credit there. Ythan wagon D2/D3 was because of PR report so null. Beyond that his contribution to the game drops off the map, and is all just asking questions and doing nothing with it. No analysis, no real stances. Claims voteless D5, but that's really no excuse. Just spends all his time talking minutiae about DGB's messages.

That does make sense as SK more than mafia.

[DrippingGoofball]

And vollkan-SK? What's that like.

A scumtell that's panned out really well for me recently (when I discovered my own tendency to do this as scum), is people using RL or technical excuses for lurking.

As you have just done.

You have failed to explain your huge 7 point on zoraster conditional scumminess about Ythan, something you have failed to follow up on.

You have failed to submit point totals, too. I get it; they tend to get you flak. But that's never stopped you before.

[DrippingGoofball]

oh is this the part where we all pretend we're gonna lynch fate day 1?



geez, i was wondering when we were gonna get to that, but typically i want no part of it

we're not pretending.

I'd bet you my left nut Fate doesn't get lynched today.

You've got a town read on Wyrd, then?

There is little point to this Zoidberg post, except to frame kuribo for a possible Wyrd town read.

[DrippingGoofball]

Not because he thinks Wyrd is town, but because Fate and whoever else is in that hydra are (in)famous around these parts. So basically, kuribo is saying "Even if Wyrd is scum we're still not going to lynch, because Fate. Fap fap fap fap fap fap fapfapfapfapfapfapfap."

There are a lot of kuribo-framing posts between the one I just posted, and the one I'm posting here, but you can see how Zoidberg slowly changed from "you have a town-read on Wyrd" to "you have a scum-read on Wyrd but won't lynch him.

You can iso this yourself to see the rhetorical evolution.

[DrippingGoofball]

One of them is

asking

? Pardon me, but I happen to have some knowledge in proper English and grammar, but I don't see a single question mark at the end of any of those sentences. Not a single one of them is a

question

. Try again...

Fine, you pedantic fuck. One is telling people to vote. The other is voting because you're told. Either way they're still not even close to the same thing and you're just nitpicking for no reason. The presence or absence of a fucking question mark makes no difference.

What the hell is this "+#" crap that I see you posting every now and then? You're the only one I've seen doing it. Is it role related or something?

The

+X

numbers are "scum points" on his personal scum scale. It's his attempt to be transparent. This was already explained in-thread like 40 pages ago.

I note with great interest that you avoided addressing his point.

(also hey he's the first one voting Thunderscum and that ain't no bus)

And how are

YOU

so sure of this? You do seem pretty confident - you must know something that we don't.

UNVOTE: Zoid; Vote Wyrd

Please quote instances of Wyrd being scummy. Be specific and explain why you feel it is scummy.

I can't wrap my head around this one, Zoidberg is defending Wyrd against Thunderhog!

[DrippingGoofball]

I want to murder you in spirit.

K, well vote me if you want. Don't vig please.

This is pretty interesting. Zoidberg doesn't want to be NK'd? It's a PR softclaim, but we know that Zoidberg's power involves pointless ascii dicks, who cares if he gets NK'd?

[DrippingGoofball]

Or someone vigging the everlasting fuck out of him. Hint hint. Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

And directing the vig...

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd rather lynch Quilford first. If he flips town then we can quickwagon DGB or her replacement tomorrow.

This is SUPER interesting.

Zoidberg is lining up a lynched based on a player flipping TOWN!!!!

Have I ever seen this before????

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, I'm pretty sure of vollkan-SK and Zoidberg-scum.

vollkan pretty much has no links to anyone at all.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm V/LA until monday am btw.

DGB's case on me is mistaken.

Softclaim was because at the time I thought I could confirm as town, but then I found the wiki article for Fruit Vendor which is my role, so all I can claim is not-governor, not-blocker, etc.

I want flavor and details.

Read my sig!

[DrippingGoofball]

Zoidberg fails to list his night targets with his Fruit Vendor claim.

BAD SIGN

[DrippingGoofball]

For ref:

Pretentiousdra

- 7 (

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

, Zoidberg,

Om of the Nom

,

Slumberpartybois

, BT, Drench)

Wyrd

- 8 (

Slumberpartybois

,

Kawaii

,

Pretentiousdra

, zoraster,

Gammagooey

, Nobody Special,

One Direction

,

Quilford

)

Zoidberg - 4 (

kuribo

,

Ythan

,

ThunderHog

,

Om of the Nom

)

***

ThunderHog

- 13 (vollkan,

Gammagooey

, Zoidberg,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie,

kuribo

,

Om of the Nom

, Nobody Special, zoraster, dramonic,

JacobSavage

,

Nachomamma8

)

zoraster - 5 (

Pretentiousdra

,

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

,

JacobSavage

,

DrippingGoofball

)

JacobSavage

- 6 (

DeltaWave

, Iecerint,

Quilford

,

Slumberpartybois

, Zoidberg, zoraster)

***

Ythan

- 9 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

,

Slumberpartybois

,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

, BT)

Not Voting - 11 (

Mini-Librarian

, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

Quilford

,

JacobSavage

,

Pretentiousdra

, TheTrollie,

DrippingGoofball

)

***

Ythan

- 11 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

,

Slumberpartybois

,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

,

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Pretentiousdra

)

Not Voting - 11 (

Mini-Librarian

, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

JacobSavage

, TheTrollie, BT

***

TheButtonmen

- 6 (

Pretentiousdra

, Zoidberg,

Kawaii

, The

Mini-Librarian

,

Wyrd

,

DrippingGoofball

)

Slumberpartybois

- 4 (

DrippingGoofball

, zoraster, dramonic,

DeltaWave

)
***

DrippingGoofball

- 5 (

Slumberpartybois

,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie)

[DrippingGoofball]

Corrections for replacements

Pretentiousdra

- 7 (

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

, Zoidberg,

Om of the Nom

,

Slumberpartybois

, Magua,

Bella/Drench

)

Wyrd

- 8 (

Slumberpartybois

,

Kawaii

,

Pretentiousdra

, zoraster,

Gammagooey

,

Mini-Librarian

,

One Direction

,

Quilford

)

Zoidberg - 4 (

kuribo

,

Ythan

,

ThunderHog

,

Om of the Nom

)

***

ThunderHog

- 13 (vollkan,

Gammagooey

, Zoidberg,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie,

kuribo

,

Om of the Nom

,

Mini-Librarian

, zoraster, dramonic,

JacobSavage

,

Nachomamma8

)

zoraster - 5 (

Pretentiousdra

,

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

,

JacobSavage

,

DrippingGoofball

)

JacobSavage

- 6 (

DeltaWave

, Iecerint,

Quilford

,

Slumberpartybois

, Zoidberg, zoraster)

***

Ythan

- 9 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

,

Slumberpartybois

,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

, BT)

Not Voting - 11 (

Mini-Librarian

, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

Quilford

,

JacobSavage

,

Pretentiousdra

, TheTrollie,

DrippingGoofball

)

***

Ythan

- 11 (

One Direction

,

Om of the Nom

, Iecerint,

Wyrd

,

Slumberpartybois

,

DeltaWave

, Zoidberg, vollkan,

Kawaii

,

Quilford

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Pretentiousdra

)

Not Voting - 11 (

Mini-Librarian

, zoraster,

TheButtonmen

, dramonic,

JacobSavage

, TheTrollie, BT

***

TheButtonmen

- 6 (

Pretentiousdra

, Zoidberg,

Kawaii

, The

Mini-Librarian

,

Wyrd

,

DrippingGoofball

)

Slumberpartybois

- 4 (

DrippingGoofball

, zoraster, dramonic,

DeltaWave

)
***

DrippingGoofball

- 5 (

Slumberpartybois

,

Wyrd

,

Kawaii

, TheTrollie)

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright. I rarely do wagon analysis late in the game because some of my assumptions (number of scum per wagon) become unstable as scum and townies flip, and the number of unrevealed players begins to diminish.

It would stand to reason, though, that the ThunderHog wagon, with 13 voters, 1 outed scum (Wyrd), and 5 unrevealed players has one more mafia on it. One among vollkan, Zoidberg, Trollie, zoraster, and dramonic. Admitted that doesn't do much to narrow the field.

That's all I can extract at this point. It's not incompatible with my vollkan-SK and Zoidberg-scum theory.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think ive only been SK once, and I dont remember it.

Not an argument.

i never fabricate rl excuses - i consider it unfair

You're an honest guy, I would actually trust you on this one.

what about it needs explaining?

Your normal playstyle does involve a certain scarcity of posts but in this game you've been singularly uninvolved and the quality of your posts is uncharacteristically very, very poor.

It's not stuff you can argue away logically, we're talking about meta reasons.

I'd still like to see what you'd come up with if you plunged in the pool. Any chance you can do this during this game-day?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, might I interest in fresh trolliescum?

And the reason would be?....

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan
Buttonmen
DGB
P-dra
Vollkan

Rationale for your choices?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan because I didn't know what my role did and was hoping something bad would happen to him. It was a theme game so I figured it was one of those "you find out you're a vig when your targets keep dying" scenarios.

Or maybe because you wanted to test it on a buddy first, who could report to you?

What about all the other targets?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm asking because I don't remember you finding me all that "pro-town."

[DrippingGoofball]

TBM was your Night 2 choice, right?

Also you're going to have to do better than "Buttons is town because gut." DGB's right; he's been super useless this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

And here Zoidberg wanted me dead:

DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Remaining ones were players I thought were pro-town AND reasonably likely to survive the night.

Why did you target the claimed cop on NIGHT 4, given that rationale?

[DrippingGoofball]

I would think it would be obvious.

Maybe it's because I'm stupid, but I have no idea.

[DrippingGoofball]

And Zoraster who's 4th on your silly scale is basically confirmed town.

Yet Zoidberg never targetted zoraster.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm trying to make a careful decision.

[DrippingGoofball]

I've extracted these two votecounts that have votes for Zoidberg.

votecount, post 1651

Wyrd

- 2 (Nobody Special,

Slumberpartybois

)
One Direction - 4 (DrippingGoofball, dramonic, kuribo, Iecerint)
Zoidberg - 3 (

Ythan

, Om of the Nom,

ThunderHog

)

ThunderHog

- 6 (vollkan, zoraster, Gammagooey, Zoidberg,

Wyrd

, Kawaii)
DrippingGoofball - 2 (One Direction, Pretentiousdra)

votecount, post 1675

Wyrd

- 3 (Nobody Special,

Slumberpartybois, ThunderHog

)
One Direction - 4 (DrippingGoofball, dramonic, kuribo, Iecerint)
Zoidberg - 1 (

Ythan

)

ThunderHog

- 7 (vollkan, zoraster, Gammagooey, Zoidberg,

Wyrd

, Kawaii, Om of the Nom)
Kawaii - 1 (BT)
Pretentiousdra - 1 (DeltaWave)
DrippingGoofball - 2 (One Direction, Pretentiousdra)

There was a lot of bus'ing and distancing, that's for sure.

[DrippingGoofball]

- D1 votes from the Mafia onto Zoidberg do not seem like bussing.

I'd like you to expand on that.

[DrippingGoofball]

vollkan started the Thunderhog wagon D1, so I give him credit there. Ythan wagon D2/D3 was because of PR report so null. Beyond that his contribution to the game drops off the map, and is all just asking questions and doing nothing with it. No analysis, no real stances. Claims voteless D5, but that's really no excuse. Just spends all his time talking minutiae about DGB's messages.

Come to think of it, is anyone going to own up to removing vollkan's vote, and reducing the lynch threshold during DW vs. SPB?

[DrippingGoofball]

The votechanger isn't the following:

04. Iecerint
05. zoraster
09. dramonic

14. Zoidberg

17. vollkan
22. Magua BT
23. TheTrollie

24. DrippingGoofball

[DrippingGoofball]

The votechanger isn't the following:

04. Iecerint

05. zoraster
09. dramonic

14. Zoidberg

17. vollkan
22. Magua BT
23. TheTrollie

24. DrippingGoofball

We have a vollkan without a vote, a reduced lynch-threshold, and if I recall, a double vote (not sure).

Doesn't sound like JOAT.