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Post Post #2820 (isolation #200) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:34 am

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In post 2807, Mac wrote:why you should probably try and get someone else lynched.
Why only probably?
Why the fucking fuck would I lock into a scumread of page two.
Why wouldn’t you? Someone says or does something suspicious/scummy, why does it matter what page its on?

Also
In post 692, Mac wrote: It was not intended to be a direct accusation of GIF being scum on page two, more a
scumread
But I also don’t see a difference between “I have a scumread on this slot” and “I’m scum reading them but not calling them scum.’ FFS!!! In my mind scumread=scum accusation and this whole “I have a scum read on this slot but...but...I’m not ready to commit" looks like a fence sitter. And for someone that you supposedly weren’t calling scum you were quick to hop back on it in 905.
Somewhere in your ISO there is a quote saying my vote/'scumread' on GiF was distancing scum which is cleaaaarly bullshit because GiF/buldermar flipped town; instead, you decided to say that is was me and bork who are the scum since bork is confscum.
Of course it’s “bullshit” ‘cause his slot is flipped town. Sometimes scum do RVS their buddies and the fact that you were heavily implying that you read GIF as scum and didn’t switch your RVS vote, I just couldn’t help but wonder.
In post 2816, Mac wrote:Just ISO Nero:

No mentions of bork/Mac team, but GIF/Mac - he tries to play off early posts as distancing. Buldermar (GIF) flips town and bork confscum at night and suddenly he starts trying to link me & bork through some rubbish quote bork said.
This looks very much like a scum post. Seriously, that's just how you play the game. If you think one thing and it turns out to be wrong then you pick yourself up and move on. Town don't know the motivations and relationships between players so this whole "GAH, YOU CAN'T ATTACK ME WITH NEW INFORMATION!!!" just seems like scum upset/an attempt to discredit i.e; “You were wrong once so you can’t be right this time.”

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but if I'm scummy for this then why ignore 2808 where Bcade pretty much follows my logic about post 107? Do you think he's scum echoing me here or what?
In post 2807, Mac wrote:Ms. M softclaims
GIF votes her despite this
I vote GIF for this; he admits skimreading and not noticing.
So why not just say "oh I don't like GIF voting for MS." ?
but I kinda agree with you about GIF. the locust thing early on also sticks out in my mind too. there's another reason that I'd rather not say too.
reason why you were voting GIF.
ISO Ms. Marangal's posts GIF, and you'll see why I voted you and why you shouldn't be voting Ms. M right now.
Though disclosing [part of] your reasoning for why you were voting GIF and then more or less telling GIF “you shouldn’t be voting MS but I’m not going to tell you why” seems particularly obtuse. And since you were

Do you have a town read on MS?

Why have you still not given your top 4 scum reads?
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #201) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:56 pm

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In post 2828, Viomi wrote:I say all four of them are confirmed scum unless they vote KoC RIGHT NOW
look at the scum desperate to get the KOC mislynch.
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Post Post #2831 (isolation #202) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:56 pm

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In post 2828, Viomi wrote:I say all four of them are confirmed scum unless they vote KoC RIGHT NOW
look at the scum desperate to get the KOC mislynch.
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Post Post #2833 (isolation #203) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:11 pm

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NOPE!!!

You are scum trying to get us to hammer on Koc.
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #204) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:59 pm

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nope as in nope you ain't trolling. What you are doing is more likely to come from scum than town.
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #205) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:05 am

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:facepalm:

Its been me (Nero) the whole time. I wasn't calling Viomi scum, I just had a scumread.


I'll respond to scum Mac later on. But in the meantime can I get links to your last completed scum game + town game? If they are in your wiki then I'll check for 'em later.
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Post Post #2850 (isolation #206) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:30 am

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In post 2847, DrippingGoofball wrote:Hey Nero

HAMMER KOC
What's the case other than "lolragequit"?
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Post Post #2852 (isolation #207) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:54 am

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meh, deadline is in like two days anyways. If he flips tow will you support me in lynching fro Guile, MS, Mac?
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Post Post #2854 (isolation #208) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:15 am

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nope. The fail is strong with this one.
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Post Post #2856 (isolation #209) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:44 am

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We have two days till deadline and I'm still reading stuff. Nor have I responded to Mac yet and I want to. Why is their a rush to hammer? Why do you want
me
to hammer instead of Mac, Goat or Messiah?
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #210) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:54 am

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Yes I'm online, no I'm not stalling, no I'm not scum, and no I'm not worried about the responsibility. Anymore retarded accusations?
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Post Post #2869 (isolation #211) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:58 am

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In post 2859, DrippingGoofball wrote:You've been lurking... NOW you decide to "read?"

STALLING DETECTED
ummm no. I'm fully caught up. I read an reread all my games and town always should be doing this unless said town player is taking notes, which I don't.
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Post Post #2873 (isolation #212) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:06 pm

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In post 2871, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2869, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 2859, DrippingGoofball wrote:You've been lurking... NOW you decide to "read?"

STALLING DETECTED
ummm no. I'm fully caught up. I read an reread all my games and town always should be doing this unless said town player is taking notes, which I don't.
Your alignment didn't change when you got "caught up" - you're still scum.
So the mod is a liar now? :facepalm:
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Post Post #2883 (isolation #213) » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:41 am

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You guys are fucking retarded.

vote: Koc


nothing else is happening today, if he flips scum then I'll tell you all why its stupid to lynch me. If he flips town then we should be lynching from Guile, Bcade, Mac, MS.
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #214) » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:15 pm

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Awesome. You posted some VC's. What do you think the mean?

looks like a kill was blocked last night so awesome.
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Post Post #2906 (isolation #215) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:57 am

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In post 2891, The Goat wrote: AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?
I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.
In post 2895, DrippingGoofball wrote:Looking at Guile's beautiful work of art, I'd go as far as saying that Angelious Nero stands out the most. It's virtually impossible for this slot to be town.
So when I flip not-mafia, can they kill you?
In post 2904, Mac wrote:Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering
show me the post where I refused to hammer? I prob did say that I didn't want to hammer yet but that =//=refusing to hammer.
In post 2905, Colonel Guile wrote:He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.
Although I'm agreeing with scum...this.

And its not like I even voted for GIF. I thought GIF was pretty townie but the way you were voting + soft attacking made me wonder if I was wrong. This whole "U DIDN'T TIE ME TO BORK!!!" when Bork hadn't flipped yet sounds like scum pissed off that I now have.

DGB, pretend for the moment that I'm not scum (I'm not but I don't see anyway to convince you.) What do you think of my push on Mac?
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #216) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:57 am

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In post 2891, The Goat wrote: AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?
I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.
In post 2895, DrippingGoofball wrote:Looking at Guile's beautiful work of art, I'd go as far as saying that Angelious Nero stands out the most. It's virtually impossible for this slot to be town.
So when I flip not-mafia, can they kill you?
In post 2904, Mac wrote:Nero wasn't defending KoC for what it's worth, just not hammering
show me the post where I refused to hammer? I prob did say that I didn't want to hammer yet but that =//=refusing to hammer.
In post 2905, Colonel Guile wrote:He had no way of knowning that Bork will die. Hence why he did not link you to him until he fliped.
Although I'm agreeing with scum...this.

And its not like I even voted for GIF. I thought GIF was pretty townie but the way you were voting + soft attacking made me wonder if I was wrong. This whole "U DIDN'T TIE ME TO BORK!!!" when Bork hadn't flipped yet sounds like scum pissed off that I now have.

DGB, pretend for the moment that I'm not scum (I'm not but I don't see anyway to convince you.) What do you think of my push on Mac?
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Post Post #2914 (isolation #217) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:50 am

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In post 2911, Colonel Guile wrote:
In post 2906, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 2891, The Goat wrote: AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?
I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.
False.

We had 2 kills on Night 1, 1 kill on Night 2, and 4 kills on Night 3.

Try again.
You're right about night 2. Night 3 I assumed it was some time of lovers type mechanic.
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #218) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:59 am

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And 3 Carmine boys all dying in three different shots is just mere happenstance.
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #219) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:00 am

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vote: AN


Everyone seems convinced that I'm mafia and I don't see anyway to convince folks that I'm not. Therefore, I'd be a liability in LYLO and my mislynch would be much better served today then later.

Mac
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #220) » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:21 am

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In post 2919, Colonel Guile wrote:
In post 2862, Bacde wrote:
In post 2860, Mac wrote:If I hit KoC can we get Nero tomorrow?
if KoC is scum, sure

if not then tomorrow is gonna be one big ball of crazy
just gonna drop this here
test dem waters more scum.
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Post Post #2938 (isolation #221) » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:51 am

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unvote vote:Guile


I'm unvoting so when I flip the more likely that scum are all over my wagon.

Guile needs death tomorrow. This is my dying wish so make it so.
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Post Post #2939 (isolation #222) » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:51 am

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unvote vote:Guile


I'm unvoting so when I flip the more likely that scum are all over my wagon.

Guile needs death tomorrow. This is my dying wish so make it so.
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #223) » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:04 pm

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In post 2940, Viomi wrote:Nah

If you flip town it's not going to make me think Guile is scum

Sorry there.
So when I flip town who will you suspect?

While a mislynch is never a good thing, if you tools are going to be full of confirmation bias, I will be an absolute liability in lylo so my mislynch now atleast gives this crap town a fighting chance. Anyways....hurry it up and lynch me already.

Mac
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That is my kill wish list.
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Post Post #3086 (isolation #224) » Wed May 01, 2013 4:10 am

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I still think ya'll should consider mislynching me today 'cause you dumbo's think I'm scum for some derpy reason, anyways, I'll catch up here in a bit and give some thoughts.
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Post Post #3089 (isolation #225) » Wed May 01, 2013 4:20 am

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Yes, I was able to type that up in one minute. :roll:

Now I hadn't posted in like 2 days and well I had to post to avoid another prod. Jesus Christ you are fucking dumb. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and vote me.
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Post Post #3091 (isolation #226) » Wed May 01, 2013 4:30 am

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You think I'm town but you continue to make snide lil' comments. Jesus Christ, you are immature as fuck.
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Post Post #3144 (isolation #227) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:30 pm

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In post 3123, Ms Marangal wrote: we probs only have one scum left now
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Post Post #3147 (isolation #228) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:39 pm

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So you basically want Mac and I to 1v1?
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Post Post #3153 (isolation #229) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:44 pm

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In post 3149, guille2015 wrote:
In post 3144, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 3123, Ms Marangal wrote: we probs only have one scum left now
no
How likely is there to be a 21p game with 2 rivaling scum as with 3 and 2 members. This type of speculation is quite harmful.
Well, I must be blind. I don't see a fifth mafia flip.
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Post Post #3155 (isolation #230) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:46 pm

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3 and 2 seems funky. Site meta suggests 2 teams of three each and I don't think you guys should assume one faction is dead.
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Post Post #3156 (isolation #231) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:49 pm

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but at the same time, I'm assuming we have 2 scummers left which is just as bad. If we were to lynch scum today and the game isn't over then w'll know there's still scum out there so meh...
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Post Post #3160 (isolation #232) » Sat May 04, 2013 2:59 pm

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A bomb that shoots through the head?
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Post Post #3169 (isolation #233) » Sat May 04, 2013 3:02 pm

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ok kewl. So...you're like a vig?
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Post Post #3183 (isolation #234) » Sat May 04, 2013 3:12 pm

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yea, Rubi is prob scum.

vote:Rubi
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Post Post #3187 (isolation #235) » Sat May 04, 2013 3:14 pm

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still think MS is lying
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Post Post #3195 (isolation #236) » Sat May 04, 2013 3:18 pm

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MS Margarnal or w/e.

I'm thinkin' that Rubi is yellow and MS is red but colors hardly matter.
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Post Post #3197 (isolation #237) » Sat May 04, 2013 3:20 pm

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no, she softclaimed a cop enabler on day 1.
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Post Post #3236 (isolation #238) » Mon May 06, 2013 11:58 am

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I know that I haven't been the most active player but Mac has been really lurky as of late.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #239) » Mon May 06, 2013 12:19 pm

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And yet I was screaming and yelling for days that Mac was scum and no on was listening to me. :(
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Post Post #3241 (isolation #240) » Mon May 06, 2013 1:29 pm

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So despite conflicting doctor claims and a very iffy cop enabler claim from MS you still believe that I'm the best bet for scum.

:facepalm:

If only I was a newbie again.
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #241) » Mon May 06, 2013 1:38 pm

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That hurts, Mac. I'm so nice and loveable.
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Post Post #3246 (isolation #242) » Mon May 06, 2013 1:42 pm

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In post 3243, DrippingGoofball wrote:I believe the cop enabler. It's not something you make up.
Well there's also the
ATE
ish that she went about claiming. Might have been some kinda lie or sumpin.
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #243) » Mon May 06, 2013 5:02 pm

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vote:guille


So you think red scum is Mac/rubi/goat?
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #244) » Tue May 07, 2013 5:29 am

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Tell me, Rubi, why did you not vote me when you first joined the game?
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #245) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:33 am

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Mac, what is your case on us?

I'm not 100% sold on Gulli's claim but meh.
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Post Post #3314 (isolation #246) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:44 am

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In post 2911, Colonel Guile wrote:
In post 2906, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 2891, The Goat wrote: AN: Where in the writeup do you see a blocked kill?
I haven't read any of the "flavor" yet. TL;DR. We've usally had 2 kills a night, tonight we only had one. Either a kill was stopped some kind of way or the red scum is all dead but metawise I'd think it was a 3v3.
False.

We had 2 kills on Night 1, 1 kill on Night 2, and
4 kills on Night 3
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Try again.
and yet they are claiming the kills of both Fitz and Bork. Now maybe he was lying to make it look like he didn't have extra information but I don't like liars at all.
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Post Post #3315 (isolation #247) » Wed May 08, 2013 2:50 am

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In post 3149, guille2015 wrote:
In post 3144, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 3123, Ms Marangal wrote: we probs only have one scum left now
no
How likely is there to be a 21p game with 2 rivaling scum as with 3 and 2 members. This type of speculation is quite harmful.
and this is still fucking retarded. It was MS claiming it was 2 and 3 member teams, not me.
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Post Post #3402 (isolation #248) » Sun May 12, 2013 9:07 am

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So you think both groups have a doctor?
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Post Post #3404 (isolation #249) » Sun May 12, 2013 9:22 am

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What does Messiah's claimed role have to do with anything?
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Post Post #3409 (isolation #250) » Sun May 12, 2013 9:46 am

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Viomi votes goat
I ask if she thinks that both teams have a doc
Mac answers my question with a question
I ask him what Messiah's role has to do with Goat possibly being scum
Mac says that killin Goat would be suicide which has shit all to do with Viomi's claim that Goat could be scum

I want to kill Mac just for making head hurt
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Post Post #3412 (isolation #251) » Sun May 12, 2013 10:26 am

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I'm thinkin' that the last scum is between Gullie and MS M.
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Post Post #3413 (isolation #252) » Sun May 12, 2013 10:32 am

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We have a 15 player town. Half of 15 is close to 8. A 8vt/7pr town makes more sense to me then a 8pr/7vt town. Since there are 5 flipped vts I'm going to buy that all 3 of me, Mac and Viomi are town. Likewise I kinda like the idea of a town watcher + Doc. Which leaves MS and Gullie.

vote:MS
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Post Post #3414 (isolation #253) » Sun May 12, 2013 10:32 am

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We have a 15 player town. Half of 15 is close to 8. A 8vt/7pr town makes more sense to me then a 8pr/7vt town. Since there are 5 flipped vts I'm going to buy that all 3 of me, Mac and Viomi are town. Likewise I kinda like the idea of a town watcher + Doc. Which leaves MS and Gullie.

vote:MS
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Post Post #3416 (isolation #254) » Sun May 12, 2013 6:06 pm

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Except that one of the prs is the scum. Stop being an idiot.
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Post Post #3422 (isolation #255) » Mon May 13, 2013 3:06 am

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I'm a VT, Mac. I don't really know what a character claim would do but I suppose I can ask Venmar for my role pm again.
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Post Post #3423 (isolation #256) » Mon May 13, 2013 4:24 am

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In post 3419, The Goat wrote:
In post 3416, Angelious Nero wrote:Except that one of the prs is the scum. Stop being an idiot.
Very helpful.

Which one WASN'T pushing a red scum, then?
Are you even paying attention? If you disagree with my theory then fine but say so instead of being snarky.

I don't like the way that MS went about her claim.
I think she may have been bussin/distancing from Slandaar.

Why do you think that I make the most sense as red? You think all 4 prs are telling the truth?
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Post Post #3425 (isolation #257) » Mon May 13, 2013 5:11 am

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look, more immature cheekiness. Obviously I deleted my pm hence the "I can ask Venmar for my role pm again"
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Post Post #3428 (isolation #258) » Mon May 13, 2013 10:02 am

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Venmar, can you resend my role pm so I can tell these clowns what my characters name is?
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Post Post #3429 (isolation #259) » Mon May 13, 2013 10:07 am

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Thanks Venny. I am Private Alicia Valera of the COG.
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Post Post #3435 (isolation #260) » Mon May 13, 2013 2:13 pm

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In post 3431, The Goat wrote:
In post 3423, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 3419, The Goat wrote:
In post 3416, Angelious Nero wrote:Except that one of the prs is the scum. Stop being an idiot.
Very helpful.

Which one WASN'T pushing a red scum, then?
Are you even paying attention? If you disagree with my theory then fine but say so instead of being snarky.

I don't like the way that MS went about her claim.
I think she may have been bussin/distancing from Slandaar.

Why do you think that I make the most sense as red? You think all 4 prs are telling the truth?
I think it's either you or MsM.
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Trying to discuss anything with you is like pulling teeth. I've played a lot of games around here and (I'm not going to go around "look up" anything) but in balanced setups there seem to be more vts than prs for town. Hence why I think one of the prs is lying.
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #261) » Mon May 13, 2013 2:15 pm

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In post 3433, Ms Marangal wrote:Nero, I was hard defending Slandaar D1, how could I have been bussing?
I'm pretty sure you were hard pushing for Slaandar over Messiah on day 1 and then you were again backing Messiah and pushing Slandaar on day 2
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Post Post #3438 (isolation #262) » Mon May 13, 2013 3:43 pm

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So you haven't even read my analysis and you are arguing with me over it? Christ dude.
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Post Post #3442 (isolation #263) » Tue May 14, 2013 7:13 am

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In post 3437, The Goat wrote:To more succinctly phrase my last response, I cannot see anyone else but you or MsM being the remaining scum.
Very good. Only took you 2 posts to spit it out.

In my mind it makes sense for there to be 8 vts and only 7 pr. I posted this and you immediately vote me. Mayyybe its an OMGUS and there is no town doc, idk. If you are scum its not like I'm going to convince you that you are scum but look at it from my POV, (and I really think that I'm right) I limited the scum pool down to only 4 suspects (the ones with a claimed pr) and you vote me for something that you could/should have when you started posting today so that vote looks suspicious to me.

And then all you start doing is making fun of said analysis when you refuse to read it and "AN is scum" over and over without even considering another lynch(and yes, I know you are "suspicious" of MsM).

Your refusal to do anything productive makes me want to stab you in the face.
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Post Post #3443 (isolation #264) » Tue May 14, 2013 7:41 am

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In post 3149, guille2015 wrote:
In post 3144, Angelious Nero wrote:
In post 3123, Ms Marangal wrote: we probs only have one scum left now
no
How likely is there to be a 21p game with 2 rivaling scum as with 3 and 2 members. This type of speculation is quite harmful.
this posts still blows 'cause he was accusing me of speculating when site meta says that I'm right.
UN gave Nero a lot of praise, and thought that Nero can't be town or he would have played better.
This is still stupid as shit.

He hasn't done any hunting today. He seems plausible.
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Post Post #3444 (isolation #265) » Tue May 14, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 664, Ms Marangal wrote:
of course you would want me gone Goat, without me the cops cant work
and get get a guilty result on you and your teammates. You also wouldn't be able to kill me at night so the only real way to get me out of the game is to lynch me. that's not going to happen
this still blows and not only for it being a possible lie. The bolded is the crappiest
ATE
ever. Even if Goat was scum, he'd still have no way to know what Mara's role is. Why she'd act like she thought he'd know is stupid, stupid, stupid.

Who do you want to lynch today and why?
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Post Post #3445 (isolation #266) » Tue May 14, 2013 8:24 am

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Messiah is being a lurk a derp too, bleh.

I want everyone to comment on my theory.
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Post Post #3459 (isolation #267) » Tue May 14, 2013 9:17 pm

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In post 3447, Messiah wrote:What I do find harmful (and super scummy) is your speculation from today.

Vote: AN


How so? I know its "setup speculation" but its the same strategy that I used in Harry Potter and guess what? I was right. Not really surprised that you'd call the MS M wagon "shit" when she's been witheknighting you and defending you all game long.

UGH----3448 from Goat is terrible. Just so defensive and immature.
In post 3455, Ms Marangal wrote:I outed my role early on, which was a fairly good idea in retrospect, because I had no danger in dying at night and my role is essential to cops being able to investigate. We have a normal cop, and a flavor cop. It moved the pressure off me, and on to people who ended up being scum, to have that said scum get lynched the next day.
Except that's not really the point. The
way
you went about claiming was stupid.

I also hate your scumlist since these bozo's are likely going to mislynch me today and by not having me as a scum read gains you some insta town cred. And both Mac and Viomi are very likely town. So why are you not voting Mac?
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Post Post #3461 (isolation #268) » Tue May 14, 2013 10:59 pm

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Red scum

Slandaar, General RAAM ( Mafia Non-Consecutive Strongman )
Knight of Cydonia, Queen Myrrah ( Mafia Godmother )



yellow scum

borkjerfkin, CEO Aaron Griffin ( Mafia Ninja )
qwints, Chairman Lyle Ollivar ( Mafia Roleblocker )
Rubicon, Franklin Tsoko ( Mafia Non-Consecutive Doctor/Commuter )



Each team had a non-consecutive role.
Each team had a killing type role.
Each team may have had a manipulation type role. But that's assuming that the godmother is investigation immune or something. Would help if we knew what it did.

Hey Venmar, you don't want to tell us what the godmother role does, do ya? :)


So both of these teams look similar except that Rubicon flipped as protective. So I think its a good bet that red scum also have a protective type role.
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Post Post #3463 (isolation #269) » Tue May 14, 2013 11:06 pm

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I think its possible that both mafia protective roles fake claimed doc. So what, we 1v1 goat and MsM?
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Post Post #3465 (isolation #270) » Tue May 14, 2013 11:08 pm

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my post just said I thaught the teams looked similar....
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #271) » Tue May 14, 2013 11:16 pm

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I kinda like Messiah as town 'cause yellow didn't have an information role.

I guess the same goes for Guille but if red scum gets lynched and the game isn't over he might be some sorta sk.

me, mac and viomi are likely to be town.

So yeah....of Goat/Msm is probs the last scum. I'm good with killing MsM first.
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #272) » Fri May 17, 2013 4:23 am

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Mac is prob town. I think all ya'll are scummy and I believe in my POE and that the last scummer is a PR.

Why won't you vote Goat with me?
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Post Post #3490 (isolation #273) » Fri May 17, 2013 11:34 am

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In post 3488, The Goat wrote:
In post 3486, Angelious Nero wrote:Mac is prob town. I think all ya'll are scummy and I believe in my POE and that the last scummer is a PR.

Why won't you vote Goat with me?
Because that would be an abysmally stupid play?
So, even though its confirmed that the last scum is in the prs you want to lynch from a confirmed town slot and you are calling my play abysmally stupid.

Also if you were paying attention/not full of fail you'd notice that I'm trying to get Mara lynched, not you, you dillwhole.

The point is, that Mara knows that I'm right and wants to lynched from a confirmed vt slot b/c if we were to lynch you then it would only limit the amount of player that she can kick a lynch to.
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Post Post #3498 (isolation #274) » Sat May 18, 2013 10:24 am

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I think everyone in this game is scummy, sweetheart. Goat is throwing a hissy fit like a 2 year old, Gullie is back to lurking, Messiah is lurking like a pro and not hunting at all, Viomi is such a troll she's a shot in the dark, I've spent awhile tunneling on Mac, I guess he could be scum. IDK anymore. So how think I should be looking for scum?
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Post Post #3508 (isolation #275) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:47 pm

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Why would scum shoot a vt over a pr? It makes me think that my "scum is left in the prs" theory is right but then again it could just be wifom to make think that I'm right or maybe Viomi was just shot 'cause no one was really pushing her as scum.

My paranoia is making me think Gullie. Surely scum would fear a killing role.
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #276) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:57 am

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In post 3513, Mac wrote:
The Colonel Guille
hydra did not want to lynch Slandaar and thought KoC was town for rage-quitting. he looks good for red at the moment.
In post 3514, Mac wrote:VOTE: Nero

based on Slandaar/KoC interactions I'm happy to assume Nero is the last scum.
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Post Post #3526 (isolation #277) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:33 pm

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In post 3518, guille2015 wrote:
In post 3511, Mac wrote:I realise that post was not helpful at all but it will come to me.

guille why haven't you been blowing shit up?
Yeah, I ran out of bombs when I tried to blow up Rubi. Had only 3 bombs.
Well that's convenient.
In post 3525, The Goat wrote:
In post 3520, guille2015 wrote:
In post 3519, Mac wrote:How do people feel about Messiah? there was some things that trouble me with regards to him.

a) his lack of fucking involvement.
b) just.. the set-up. Orange mafia ninja... town tracker... would it make sense for a red watcher?
I wish he was more involved, but I don't see him as scum, much less red scum. He fits as orange scum risking that claim since being orange he could deduce that Pirate was not scum, hence Slaandar did not visit PC.

I'm Going to be ISOing Nero in the following days
.
This.

Nero, I apologize for being so openly hostile, but Jesus do you get under my skin.

I will wait, analyze, then vote.
But all I wanted to know is what you thought of my theory yesterday.

I'm also very very annoyed that MsM didn't respond to my 3498 and just kinda let herself get lynched.
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #278) » Wed May 22, 2013 4:41 pm

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Mac, I'd like to see your full case on us please. I'm a tad bit concerned how Mac was agreeing with me and kind of budding me and then flips a switch and calls me scum the next day.
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #279) » Mon May 27, 2013 10:30 am

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In post 3533, Messiah wrote:given that there's no other explanation for his kills at all and
he correctly nailed Rubicon's ability to prevent NKs on himself.
its fairly common for scum to have a extra kill or you know, he could just be lying and that it was the scums kill. How is the bolded a towntell?

I don't remember you ever trying to get Mac lynched but I'll read you in ISO.
In post 3535, guille2015 wrote:Nero: I want you to answer my question above.
you know you're supposed to scum and not town, right? Or is it the other way around for you?
Also Nero, If Angel hasn't posted on the hydra, I suggest you remove that hydra from the game, and replace in as Nero Cain.
What's the point in doing this?
his stance refusal to vote KoC

Not wanting to hammer KoC probably cos he was Godfather... it just makes sense.
Except that would be fucking suicide. This is the exact thing that DGB said and its totally untrue.
and then failure to explain why we shouldn't lynch him the following day was a key point.
I don't know why you and Gullie think this is important.
he keeps focusing on PR's rather than VT's imo.
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So all yesterday you were agreeingish with me and now I'm scummy for it? The hell?
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #280) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:40 pm

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Mac, why were you some what buddying me yesterday, I mean I was pushing the whole "last scum is in the prs" and you seemed to be fine with it. But now today I'm scummy for it? Please respond this time.
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #281) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:43 pm

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So...whats your full case?
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Post Post #3555 (isolation #282) » Tue May 28, 2013 2:44 pm

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In post 3552, The Goat wrote: AN, please direct me to your theory. TIA.
:eek:

And you wonder why you were pissing me off yesterday.

My theory was that I think the last scum is in the claimed prs (you, gullie, messiah and MsM from yesterday), I also said that I think each scum team is similar in nature. You can read about it in 3461.

Messiah, can I get a full list of your actions.
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Post Post #3589 (isolation #283) » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:01 am

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In post 3584, Messiah wrote:I actually really hate a lot of Nero's responses to Mac on the last page and they've done more than enough to push me to vote Nero over Mac here.

To explain some things:

Point 3 in - Mac mentioned the not contributing thing a bunch of times, and other things similar to it (like wanting the day to end while lurking hard and staying on a single vote wagon or something). Hypocrisy isn't scummy or anything, either, and I don't think it would discredit the point that Mac was making in this case at all even if he were being entirely hypocritical, because the context was different between their two situations. This just feels lazy and deflect-y and I don't like it at all.

is pretty much exactly the same thing. Deflecting via claims of hypocrisy when it doesn't even matter, and regardless of whether or not a hypothetical townie!Mac bought Slandaar's claim at the time isn't really an issue because it's still an important associative tell against Nero. I looked back and checked and where Nero claims in this post that Slandaar hadn't claimed anything yet at that point seems to be totally untrue, unless I'm completely missing something.

vote: Nero


I feel pretty comfortable here.
oh Christ!

Well I guess I kinda fucked up here. Apparently Slan did claim on day 1 and I didn't remember that. Though I don't think there was any reason to doubt his result.

In general I find this really really bad on Mac. Its real easy to call a fakeclaim bullshit
AFTER
the scum flip.

This whole "you didn't vote for Slandaar, neither did I, but you are scummy for it!!!" Is mind boggling dumb.

The whole complaining about the long dayphase and whatever is something that Angel always does.

Mac's switch to Gullie later on is horribad. Gullie's 375 is also real good.
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Post Post #3594 (isolation #284) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:47 am

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In post 3593, Mac wrote:
vote Nero


Back here then. Blatant misrepping of me has just sealed it
lol. You're voting me for the deadline. Just be honest. Why lie about the reason you are voting me?
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Post Post #3596 (isolation #285) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:01 am

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In post 3595, Mac wrote:I'm not lying you cretin
On Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:18 pm you called me out for "misrepping you"

At Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:24 am the mod tells us that the deadline is tomorrow.

You then vote 7 mins later and claim that my "missrepping of you seals it" Yet you could have easily done that yesterday but you didn't. So your obviously voting me for the deadline.

Timestamps don't lie.
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Post Post #3597 (isolation #286) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:03 am

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In post 3590, Mac wrote:
THAT IS NOT WHAT IM SAYING STOP BEING A FUCKING IDIOT ABOUT IT
Well, what are you saying then?

I do not understand.

You claim that I'm scummy for "buying an obvious bullshit" claim. But you also bought 'cause I don't ever remember you claiming that Slan was bullshitting.

You claim that I'm scummy for not voting him but neither did you.

So no, I'm not understanding you at all.
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Post Post #3600 (isolation #287) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:03 am

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In post 3598, Mac wrote:No I am claiming that you are scummy for finding MORE WAYS to support Slandaar when he was voting PC.
ok so, scum claim a player is lying all the time but doesn't vote said liar. So I should have just known that Mollie was terrible town? How was I supposed to know that he was lying?
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Post Post #3602 (isolation #288) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:17 pm

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Well shit. I almost won.
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Post Post #3604 (isolation #289) » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:22 pm

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I was this close to winning but even if we had lynched Mac today I doubt I'd survive the next day.
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