Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[Mac]

Yeah like every post is WIFOM now and I don't like it.

I know I was a top partner-read for alot of people but that doesn't mean I won't be killed. I was an easy lynch d2 when at L-1 but I managed to get away from it (although not on my own terms..) but yeah, if I was the target last night, it would've thrown a spanner in the works had I not been protected.

[Mac]

Of course this is absolutely all WIFOM like I said. It's not good.

[Mac]

I'll get to this game soon, guys. Would still like to hear from Z too. I hope this isn't a stalling tactic.

[Mac]

Mac... Get the fuck in the game and do... Anything

I was out. I'm a little broken. I'll be here either later or on Monday to sort stuff out.

One thing I didn't like was your post a bit back that said if it's not me it's one of the PRs. I'm working pff memory here though, but it looked like setting up mislynches. Also ffs meta on gm is VERY interesting to say the least.

[Mac]

Some interesting points being raised about goodmorning.

Reading back, it looks like this could be a bit of a setup to mislynch me. I was her only pairing as GIF's partner, which actually sets it up nicely for me to be lynched next day (today).

The reference from ff from another game is very interesting, as well. I'm starting to lean GMscum now.

This game, man.

[Mac]

Coming from me, it doesn't make sense. I'd prefer we didn't do it, and I can see why you want to, but I'm really starting to believe the possibility of GM fake-claiming or scum no-killing.

[Mac]

I *think* I like that vote purely because it would be a good gambit to perform as scum and possibly get away with it. ff has done a good job of finding that quote, and like I said earlier, keep is such an easy-to-use word it could be ctrl+f'd easily for a fake claim.

out of interest, did anyone compare the use of keep by others compared to GM?

[Mac]

The best way here is surely to work in percentages, but that's too much of a hassle.

just counted mine at it's about 9 in less posts I'm sure.

[Mac]

EBWOP - too much of a hassle right now, for me at least. will maybe take a shot tomorrow.

[Mac]

Psychologically speaking, GM doesn't appear as suspicious of Mac as she should be. Like, presuming she's a real JK, after a no-kill would you NOT be INSTANTLY and almost IRREVOCABLY suspicious of your JK target? Like, sure there are other possibilities, but if you're the JK would you not immediately think that the simplest and most logical conclusion is that your target is scum? Especially considering by her own admission she doesn't think that it's likely Mac would have been targeted by a NK.

I agree with this as well. When playing as a PR I like to see if I can trip up the scum or trap them in a corner. Maybe that's personal playstyle though. Still, there's just something not right about the claim.

VOTE: goodmorning

[Mac]

Interesting.

[Mac]

We seem to have hit a wall. My two cents is that I think GM is scum fakeclaiming because of how she doesn't actually state she thinks it's me

until she absolutely has too.

<--- this comes from a mix of her picking up votes and being told to take a stance by Ine. She could've came into day three saying she jailkept me & how I was the likely scum and voted me there and then. Let's be honest: if you jailkeep your top suspect and there's no kill, you are going to think it's them. Instead, she barely mentions me until she is told to take a side and as she's picking up votes, she decides it's me or Z.

GM keeps involving WIFOM (oh if I was fakeclaiming I would definitely kill VE) which sounds ridiculous because that's probably what scum would say if they NK'd or targetted fery. Kinda sounds like she possibly did go for fery and realises her error. Maybe she banked on VE protecting her? Plus the fact Z has been trying his best to lynch VE for some godawful reason. It stands that VE would be left alive by scumGM to not narrow down the possibility of people finding out her fakeclaim. With VE alive, there is still the added element of "ohhh, he

could

still be fake-claiming."

I hope this makes sense. These are my thoughts at the moment on why I think we should lynch GM.

[Mac]

That's complete lies: my head has been leaning towards you prior to this. Nice effort trying to twist it though, I mean you even used the phrase I used!

[Mac]

Are you guys suggesting that, under no real pressure, VE initiated a massclaim and went for doctor? That doesn't make sense from a scumpov to me.

[Mac]

I'm not sure what you mean fferyl.

@mod - prod VE?

[Mac]

I see, I see.

I still think I've made good points on why GM is scum, and she hasn't really done anything to refute it. Other than try and plant seeds about VE possibly faking his claim. Which I didn't like.

[Mac]

I'm also one who tends to protect PRs but her claim is pretty much full of holes which makes me feel it's forced. :/

Agree with the short days comment too, but I guess that's just the way it is here.

[Mac]

the thing that worries me at 3v1 mylo... assuming GM is town & you are the doc you are likely to die & then no lynching means the loss of fferyl. assuming she is town, which I'm very confident in saying.

I think in 3v1 we have to pick out the scum. no lynch means likely the loss of fferyllt and then three possible scum-candidates throughout the game in lylo.

I'm not sure if this post makes sense. I hope so.

[Mac]

this is disappointing, to say the least. I legitmately think gm is the scum here and I'm being accused of

manipulative

? play. I don't get it.

[Mac]

this is disappointing, to say the least. I legitmately think gm is the scum here and I'm being accused of

manipulative

? play. I don't get it.

This sucks to explain because it's about tone, not specifics.

I feel like you are cheerleading the lines of thought that lead to not lynching you today more than you're developing your own case for GM being scum. And you're townreading everyone else afaict. The outbreak of paranoia over/between VE and Eff didn't provoke so much as a blink. If I were scum and knew that was all town on town, I think I would have kept my oar out of it, to see if town went anywhere useful to me with it.

This is not true.

I continue to develop my case on GM as she posts cos she is not helping herself if she is town. I'm not townreading everyone else either: I'm townreading you and believing VE's claim. At a stretch, I'd say Z was town but he continues to demolish this read with every post.

I don't care about the paranoia, because I think GM is scum. If it comes to it, we can cross that bridge we come to it. But if you start letting paranoia take over, that's when you will lose and start lynching town. Keep focused, and cross that path when it arises.

[Mac]

Nope, I'm not. I'm focused on getting my top scumread lynched.

[Mac]

To expand; I have contributed a case towards why GM is scum fakeclaiming here. I am pushing the case. ff, you have admitted they are some good points.

What GM is doing is playing a get out of jail free card to speak. "we have to lynch him now" even though one could easily assume scum went for ffery and missed if she was jailkeeper. She discredits my case by saying there are no good points in it, and even tries to sprinkle seeds of doubt over VE by saying his claim is sketchy (hint: it's not)

[quote="In post 2426, goodmorning"]I still think it's you, but as both Z and Ine have mentioned wanting to lynch a PR claim I thought I might mention that VE's claim is way more sketch than mine./quote]

that reads to me like she doesn't have anything else to push me with, and instead turns to those possibly suspecting a fakeclaim.

[Mac]

I haaaate when quotefails happen

[Mac]

Do you remember what tipped you over in terms of suspecting GM?

Just piecing together all the pieces of the claim and realising it didn't really make sense. You digging up the QT quote was a biggy, however. Just kinda seems like the way she planned to fakeclaim in that game is the way she claimed in here. then the belief I had in it crumbled.

@gm - ok. so when I flip town will you vote NO ONE else in the entire game because I was the only partner you had down for GIF? of course you won't.

if you are the scum it just looks like you've primed me up for a lynch here. if you targetted fery then you always had me to fall back on since you could claim jailkeeping me because I was your only partner for GIF.

[Mac]

Do you remember what tipped you over in terms of suspecting GM?

Just piecing together all the pieces of the claim and realising it didn't really make sense. You digging up the QT quote was a biggy, however. Just kinda seems like the way she planned to fakeclaim in that game is the way she claimed in here. then the belief I had in it crumbled.

@gm - ok. so when I flip town will you vote NO ONE else in the entire game because I was the only partner you had down for GIF? of course you won't.

if you are the scum it just looks like you've primed me up for a lynch here. if you targetted fery then you always had me to fall back on since you could claim jailkeeping me because I was your only partner for GIF.

It looks like most of that piecing together wasn't happening in this thread. You didn't vote her even after my crumb post until after VE put his vote down.

You brought out the crumb post on a saturday night. I posted on Sunday telling you all how hungover I was and would be catching up later. I came back on Monday and started figuring shit out. Even if it happened in my head I still laid down my trail of thought.

[Mac]

A little bit. I was thinking maybe Ine playing a gambit. there was always a little doubt about GM though

[Mac]

My sense is that you just weren't in the thread kicking tires and trying to figure things out. I'm going to reread day 3 to see if that's accurate.

what does this even mean?

p-edit cool. of course you would say that.

[Mac]

Yeah like every post is WIFOM now and I don't like it.

I know I was a top partner-read for alot of people but that doesn't mean I won't be killed. I was an easy lynch d2 when at L-1 but I managed to get away from it (

although not on my own terms.

.) but yeah, if I was the target last night, it would've thrown a spanner in the works had I not been protected.

What would your own terms have been?

well my wagon de-railed itself, I would've preferred that people realised I was town because of what I was saying rather than leaving a spec of

what if?

doubt.

does that make sense?

[Mac]

Well this game is dying. Z desperately needs prodding unless he's V/LA and there have only been two players posting within the last 2 days.

Someone should explain why Mac hasn't been lynched yet.

maybe people realise I'm town?

[Mac]

2526 and 2527 are hilariously dissonant.

Which is it? Is there doubt left or not?

#2526 is talking retrospectively. I don't know if people genuinely think

what if?

about the wagon, or what could've been. but it always there. It's like the whole 'cannot be unseen' meme type shit.

#2527 is talking about now. maybe I should've added or "or maybe people see the holes in your claim?" as well rather than just people realised I'm being setup here but the point still stands.

[Mac]

why do I think you are scum GM?

> you seemingly needed to be pressured into voting me, rather than coming straight out of the blocks attacking me. if you jailkept and there was no kill then you would probably be highly suspicious, no? instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.
> because of the above, it looked like you were trying to coast through with whichever mislynch suited you best rather than your real 'suspect'
> fferylt digging up the quote from that QT which seems to fit in with this game
> weak 'crumbing'

[Mac]

> you seemingly needed to be pressured into voting me, rather than coming straight out of the blocks attacking me. if you jailkept and there was no kill then you would probably be highly suspicious, no?

There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

ok... so what happened to those scumreads & why am I suddenly number one?

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.

Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

no. thank you for proving my point

> because of the above, it looked like you were trying to coast through with whichever mislynch suited you best rather than your real 'suspect'

See above.

see above also

> fferylt digging up the quote from that QT which seems to fit in with this game

Confirmation bias.

if you say so? it's not.

> weak 'crumbing'

Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

do you think keep is a telling way? keep that's a word used in every day sort of sentences? do you see what I am getting at?

answered.I hate bolding but couldn't be arsed tearing it apart.

[Mac]

Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.

like FMPOV this is... bad.

[Mac]

There are many other reasons there could have been no kill, and I had very strong scumreads on people who weren't you previously. So no, you wouldn't necessarily be highly suspicious just for being jailed on a no-kill night.

ok... so what happened to those scumreads & why am I suddenly number one?

They don't really make sense paired with GIF. You do.

instead, now a wagon has formed on you, you are constantly preaching "WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING MAC" like this is what you've been campaigning all of day three for. it isn't.

Have I advocated for any other wagons D3?

no. thank you for proving my point

You seem to be saying that I have been advocating for other than your lynch toDay. Now you're agreeing that I haven't. What, pray tell, is your point?

> weak 'crumbing'

Is there a stronger way to crumb jailkeeper? I'm sorry now I didn't go with the stupid "first-letter" chestnut.

do you think keep is a telling way? keep that's a word used in every day sort of sentences? do you see what I am getting at?

It's at least slightly more original than Jack And Irma Left Keith Every Excellent Point Except Reality.

Remind me why I made sense as GIF's partner?

no I'm not, you haven't been campaigning for anything day three until it started turning on you and you needed someone to accuse. your case on me is that I make sense as GIF's partner rather than me being a scumread.

that crumb would make your claim more believable. sadly, you opted for keep which seems exactly like you ctrl+f'd yourself and hoped you had crumbed it.

[Mac]

EBWOP: top scumread.

[Mac]

Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.

like FMPOV this is... bad.

Why?

1) I am town, for a start.
2) my lynch won't end the game, only put the town in MyLo
3) PoE? is that PoE that I am the only scum or what? either way it's weak imo.
4) Bias against PRs isn't a great thing to have by any means.

[Mac]

well I wouldn't mind it cos I don't think you have?

[Mac]

so are you sheeping everyone else even though they aren't pushing it?

[Mac]

Not what I'm saying.

what are you saying then?

[Mac]

Mac's first two points are actually what is weighing most heavily for me.

On the other side of that scale is my bias about PRs.

If I vote to lynch Mac, it will be driven by that bias and by pure PoE. If his lynch doesn't end the game I'll want to lynch GM if I am alive tomorrow.

like FMPOV this is... bad.

Why?

1) I am town, for a start.
2) my lynch won't end the game, only put the town in MyLo
3) PoE? is that PoE that I am the only scum or what? either way it's weak imo.
4) Bias against PRs isn't a great thing to have by any means.

1. Nobody else knows that.

2. If the next lynch is your top scum read, it's not a terrible thing, though, right? It's a fine line, looking survival-driven, especially before hitting MYLO.

3. PoE that you're one of two scum reads I currently have.

4. My bias is toward protecting/preserving PR claims that go uncountered, which is the main thing weighting your lynch above GM's at the moment. but I can't begin to describe how close this all is in my mind atm.

1. that's why it's FMPOV

2. it's not survivalistic from, but I think GM is scum. I've outlined why several times: there is nothing survivalistic about this.

3. I see

4. okay, but I simply don't get it. I understand the edginess with regards to PRs but this claim has loads of holes that simply can't be ignored.

[Mac]

Not what I'm saying.

what are you saying then?

I'm saying that I came to the conclusion independently (I think I was the second to post a pair list?) but for many of the same reasons everyone else did.
I am also saying that I'm lazy and I don't want to make a case right now. I'll get to it eventually though.

this laziness sucks.

but I wish you hadn't hammered until we heard this.

[Mac]

I agree about the no lynch chat you guys have been having. Always always always NL at mylo imo unless there's like a cop read or something to go off which we obviously don't have. therefore

vote no lynch

and I can only echo what fery said in #2572

[Mac]

Hmmmm. Alright, let's go.

Ine and Z how do you feel about being wrong about both PR claims? Both of you thought there was scum there, right?

[Mac]

Also if we could not lurk during lylo, that would be great. Z I need you in this thread as much as possible instead of you showing up once every so often.

[Mac]

sigh.

TALK TO ME CHAPS.

none of this not posting shit.

[Mac]

let's generate some discussion

why did both of you seem so certain one of the PRs was scum fakeclaiming? it's strange way to deal with claims, that's for sure.

[Mac]

Hmmm. Good points about Ine/GIF boting pattern.

Scum self hammering is a common occurrence and basically fucks shit up. I did tell you that you shouldn't base anything around it and it kinda sucks that you: if you were scum with GIF it would make sense to manipulate his self hammer into a reason for someone else being scum.

And yes, the activity level is atrocious here. Not sure if Ine has flaked or is just sitting back.

Where are you leaning atm Z?

[Mac]

Indeed it does.

However I strongly believe that there was a no kill in order to get GM/who she blocked (me) lynched due to the doubts about her claim. Or ffery was targeted and saved by the the doc protection. Obviously i can say this knowing I am town though.

[Mac]

In fact thinking about it...

Ine asks for people's likely partners.

Gm pairs only me with GIF.

It would make sense for a NK to frame one of me and GM right?

[Mac]

There could have been a no kill though, rather than just being blocked. And a no kill kinda makes more sense in my opinion.

Not sure how that makes me look worse either.

[Mac]

no no no. just because I was jailed that DOES NOT make me scum. GM's interpretation of me being GIF's only partner means nothing either considering I pushed through her lynch based on that - ie I thought she was setting me up. If you thought I was scummy for being jailed by goodmorning, why did you not say so then?? and instead of actually voting to lynch goodmorning why didn't you vote me?

It makes perfect sense, or at least equal sense that scum targetted ffery. GM is claimed JK and has ONE SUSPECT for the scum partner, obviously she is going to jail her suspected partner. this is perfect for scum to coast through day three knowing it will probably be me or GM lynched unless the town came to the conclusion that ffery was targeted & protected. It could be either or. Neither make me autoscum.

the fact that you are coming back to this AFTER we have discussed in and "finding me scummy for it" AFTER we've lynched GM makes you look terrible and I'm starting to wonder if my suspicions of Ineffective are wrong.

[Mac]

I really hope Ineffective hasn't flaked as well.

[Mac]

Fair enough. Neither did I, and I felt GM was scum hence why I pushed her lynch through.

This is also true - we won't know what happened until post-game. If it made me scummy then you probably should've voiced your concern then rather than save it for lylo because that just looks like you are trying to find reasons to push on me.

I stand by that a NK could have happened and it's not as far-fetched as you are making out.

I think I'm also leaning Ine but these last few pages have made me doubt it a second. really need to here from him.

[Mac]

HERE???

hear*

[Mac]

If inneffective have flaked, I would prefer to lynch him. Anyone that replaces him can't really give much information or at least I couldn't trust him much because I can't reflect their style to previous posts.

true but if it's a site flake it's not indicative of alignment.

[Mac]

Yeah I wondered about GM not pushing me hence why I pushed for her lynch over anything else.

What do you think we should do about Ineffective?

[Mac]

welcome back Ine. glad you haven't flaked.

I wouldn't point fingers at Z for bad logic when both of you were down for lynching PRs. what made you certain scum was fakeclaiming?

[Mac]

lynching both PRs*

[Mac]

k well I kinda agree that I wouldn't class the f-word as cursing really, my idea of rage as such would be CAPS LOCK PARTY BECAUSE CAPSLOCK = RAGE. I feel like, at the moment, we are all just dipping our toes in the water and running away because it's cold and then repeating that process. I'm kinda stuck between who is the scum between you both because you are both kinda conservative - not that that is bad per se, it just makes it harder.

It's weird that Z used "case" in speech marks but I think it's stretching ALOT to say that he is doing so because he is scum and knows it's not real. that's a complete giveaway to his stance here I think and it's not something I think scum would do. note I am not saying he is town, I am saying it's not alignment indicative and it's strange to suggest so.

[Mac]

do you think he would so brazenly do that if he were scum? I don't think his use of quotes is intended to mean it isn't a case but I am interested to hear what it does mean

[Mac]

What comes to Ineffectives use of f-word, it was unusual of him. If say example goodmorning did the same I wouldn't make as big deal of it. I just had more composed view of Inneffective. It just jumped to my radar when player who have been passive for several days without reason acts differently than usually.

i don't agree that ineffective is a calm player since he has like 400 posts and replacing in midway through the game. but use of the fword is not and never will be alignment indicative and I really don't know what the point you are trying to make here is?

[Mac]

I kinda get the feeling from the last few posts Z is throwing shit and seeing what sticks. it's bizarre, especially the f-word thing.

[Mac]

and guess what--- despite me thinking you are full of shit and that your logic is bad--- i think you are town right now--- seriously tho i want to see you defend at least one point you have made against me in a way i can understand because i want to know the root of these flawed logical patterns you are presenting

this really bugs me because if you think z is town then i must be scum - yet you don't seem to be pushing that angle at all?

there was something z said which made me think he scumslipped but I'll have to go find it.

[Mac]

Now I really don't follow your logic?

There was a blocked kill during night three. So that means it's ether you or that scum attacked fferyllt.

We really can't see how this is helping us right now. My spreadsheet about pairings is on my tabletop back in jvk so I really can't say much about them. Goodmornings decision to pair GuyInFreezer only with you just makes you look worse.

this was it. like he knew there was a kill blocked, rather than a no kill too, but maybe that's just me?

[Mac]

I just don't see no-kill to be viable option to anyone else than false claiming scum. And since I was wrong about there being one only logical solution is that scum tried to kill during night.
Now that I think about it fferyllt seemed to be logical kill during night 4 and I didn't think more of it but what if scum tried to kill fferyllt during night 3 also. That would mean that Mac cannot be scum.

Z let me break this down for you how no killing would work in that situation for scum.

> GM claims jailkeeper; scum would realises this is a likely legit claim
> During the pairing with GIF, she only pairs me with GIF.
> Scum sees this and takes advantage of it. a no kill will ALWAYS throw a cat amongst the pigeons, I can show you a similar example in a game where I was roleblocker, which is similarish, which worked out badly for town if you like. I roleblocked a vanilla town, the vt was lynched next day and I was nk'd. Spanner in the works, it's a free pass. you see what I'm getting at?

I hope this clears up what I'm thinking about with regards to a no kill. like I say it could also be that ffery was attacked & protected but we won't know until post-game.

now tell me, what do you make of Ineffective calling you likely town despite attacking you a little and not attacking me? because if he sees you as 'likely town' then logically I am 'likely scum' - yet his day 5 posting makes very little sense towards this line of thinking because he has barely interacted with me nor questioned me.

[Mac]

Ok Z i see what you are saying.

What about the question in the last paragraph?

[Mac]

Heh, sorry, was doing my own kind of hangover routine yesterday, especially with the downtime.

really need Ineffective here though

[Mac]

rubbish if he's bailed from the site. was heading down the ineffective being the last scum route too.

may just vote him and see how the replacement handles it.

[Mac]

so.... you haven't responded to the points I made towards you?

[Mac]

I just don't see no-kill to be viable option to anyone else than false claiming scum. And since I was wrong about there being one only logical solution is that scum tried to kill during night.
Now that I think about it fferyllt seemed to be logical kill during night 4 and I didn't think more of it but what if scum tried to kill fferyllt during night 3 also. That would mean that Mac cannot be scum.

Z let me break this down for you how no killing would work in that situation for scum.

> GM claims jailkeeper; scum would realises this is a likely legit claim
> During the pairing with GIF, she only pairs me with GIF.
> Scum sees this and takes advantage of it. a no kill will ALWAYS throw a cat amongst the pigeons, I can show you a similar example in a game where I was roleblocker, which is similarish, which worked out badly for town if you like. I roleblocked a vanilla town, the vt was lynched next day and I was nk'd. Spanner in the works, it's a free pass. you see what I'm getting at?

I hope this clears up what I'm thinking about with regards to a no kill. like I say it could also be that ffery was attacked & protected but we won't know until post-game.

now tell me, what do you make of Ineffective calling you likely town despite attacking you a little and not attacking me? because if he sees you as 'likely town' then logically I am 'likely scum' - yet his day 5 posting makes very little sense towards this line of thinking because he has barely interacted with me nor questioned me.

Why would i bother attacking someone i thought was scum?its a three way--- if i could get you to jump. On Z while simulatiously pushing at him to try to get him to towntell i would confirm my suspicions and be able to vote with an easy concious or wait for one of you to vote each other so i can clear myself and increase my odds--- fmpov as long as im not lynched i have a 5050 so pitting you against each other is to my benifit

That being said--- mac i havnt seen a bigger fencesitter in my life and i am seriously considering voting you

aw wow this is incredibly hypocritical considering you have done nothing. and increasing your odds? is that of winning?

it's funny you should say that after I've mentioned possibly voting you.

[Mac]

in fact I'm very comfortable doing this

VOTE: Ineffective

pretty sure I'm correct, too.

[Mac]

also...IF IT ISNT PAINFULLY OBVIOS BY NOW

I fossed mac all day and mac fencesits and tries to manuever against whoever he thinks is least likely to vote the other person

Once i said you were town, mac started leaning pretty damn heavy against me

Hmmmmmmm


Interesting.....

Wonder why that is

Zzzzzzzzzzz

fucking bullshit.

you want to know a fact? when you mentioned me earlier today, saying I was fencesitting, that was the FIRST TIME you mentioned my name in the whole of day three without quoting.

you have pushed NOTHING on me, you have not fossed me until earlier when funnily enough I fossed you so this entire post is absolutely bullshit.

funny how all the posts are coming now you probably feel you have to post to save yourself when we previously heard nothing from you

Interesting isnt it?

[Mac]

lol you said z was looking town not even thinking he could manipulate you - you didnt even try and engage me as a scumread.

And now we are throwing petty insults. Very clever. pretty big sign of defeat that

[Mac]

Sadly I dont get paid to humour you whilst at work which means you are trolling to no one in particular

[Mac]

Inb4zisactuallyscum

[Mac]

You havent done anything to warrant an unvote, and I'm pretty sure z is town. No amount of ate is going to change that

[Mac]

so you are saying that instead of actively trying to scum hunt you would stir a brewing pot between me and z in an attempt to get us to vote each other? is this your excuse for being caught out, because it's weak as shit. must try better.

z won't mishammer, because I'm pretty sure he'll hammer you. obvscum must die

[Mac]

very fun game guys. glad to be a winner though.

[Mac]

Indeed. Stunned I didn't get lynched after my kill was blocked too.

[Mac]