RQS is valid, though this game it was shot down before it could get rolling. It still would have shown cognitive dissonance with part A if there had been more than one participant. Poepe's reluctance to answer a silly little question shows cog dis from part B. I've read the thread several times and still don't see anything as telling besides a possible buddy from VL. If Pope is lynched and does flip scum, there's a connection to SMM as a bonus.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:05 am
by waynegg
Ninja'd on that. Yeah, that came off as a buddy and raised a little flag.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:06 am
by GuyInFreezer
Well that depends on VL'a read on Wayne and TIP.
If she had Wayne as town and TIP as scum before that post, that post would make sense.
Otherwise, no.
Do not like frequency's TIP vote.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:06 am
by Rena
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:07 am
by GuyInFreezer
VL's*
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:07 am
by GuyInFreezer
Oh speaking of VC UNVOTE:
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:08 am
by waynegg
I also read the VL thing as frustration with how slow the thread was going, lack of group participation, and trying to get past that point so others would be more evolved in the game. Look at the time stamps from D1 to that point and you'll see what I mean.
In post 26, TheIrishPope wrote:Starstorm, you can check the wiki to understand what the game of Mafia is all about. You can start by telling us about yourself.
SuperMafiaMan, RVS doesn't "end", technically.
If you still want to be in RVS, go ahead, vote.
What smells to you?
Other than the cog dis, this rings hard in my ears. RVS/RQS had clearly already ended and real conversation begun. I've only ever seen scum try to break conversation, particularly conversation focused on them, by leading back to RVS/RQS for a reset. Didn't like this at all. But, I would be interested in hearing what you guys think.
Where did you go Ms. Pie??????
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:52 am
by GuyInFreezer
That post rather looks like "do what you want" then encouraging RVS.
In post 82, waynegg wrote:And I still want to know what kind of puppy everyone pictures themselves as...
I've always imagined myself as a Pomeranian. I'm quite fluffy. :0)
Huh...rereading is good, because I missed this. Three times. Going back to my RQS and what I was looking for with part A to that question, fluffy is one of those key words which would distance oneself from a scum RC. Then once I fully explained my play...
Perhaps I've had my tunnel glasses on after all...
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:23 am
by TheIrishPope
MARA
GIF
FINALLY, SMART PEOPLE
Wayne you're stupid
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:31 am
by waynegg
Back to Pope. I still don't like his deflecting to the nearest wagon of MP5 in 116 and the immediately pushing for L-1. His answers which followed for his reason to deflect are shit and then he unvotes MP5 in 147 without ever giving legit reason for the deflection or the unvote.
In post 149, TheIrishPope wrote:But there's a difference between diverting Town on purpose, as experienced scum would do, and diverting Town without wanting to, such as inexperienced town
And you intend to tell me that, with how you have been playing the game so far, and the fact that you have played some games in that past, that you are not an experienced scum but instead an inexperienced town? It still seems to me that you are deflecting intentionally to remove your from the center of attention. And you have done it twice. Once in your demand for wayne's unvote and a second time when you voted MP5. And although I'm not all that sure of myself here, it looks like that your unvote is a third time. With so many deflections, I don't think it is very likely you have done them all on accident like your little theory suggests.
Also, what happened to your "town" motivated ploy to force a roleclaim from MP5 so we can potentially get a scum? What made you suddenly lose interest?
Also, could you please answer the dang question? What kind of puppy are you? If it isn't town motivated it is certainly not scum motivated as a distraction. We can answer dumb questions and still be able to hunt scum.
QFT
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:33 am
by GuyInFreezer
But we're both scum so don't get your hopes up.
Joking aside, Wayne's puppy question is totally valid.
It's called reaction testing.
He knew what kind of reaction he was looking for, and knew when to call it off.
Ergo, it is perfectly valid .
In post 149, TheIrishPope wrote:But there's a difference between diverting Town on purpose, as experienced scum would do, and diverting Town without wanting to, such as inexperienced town
I think the more interesting question here is why after the person you're accusing of diversion says that town have no reason to divert, you say that town can divert.
QFT
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:39 am
by TheIrishPope
Yeah, but he thinks that me not answering makes me scum
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:41 am
by GuyInFreezer
Wayne likes to tunnel. He probably shrouded himself with conf bias.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:43 am
by GuyInFreezer
Also I realized that I posted more than half of you guys.
And I just replaced in.
Step it up, guys.
In post 202, GuyInFreezer wrote:Well that depends on VL'a read on Wayne and TIP.
If she had Wayne as town and TIP as scum before that post, that post would make sense.
Otherwise, no.
Do not like frequency's TIP vote.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:57 am
by waynegg
Ok. So do you have any thoughts on my reread? Does any of it use bad logic? You know my late game is pretty meh, but you also know my early game is pretty spot on so if you have a different angle on something I overlooked or looked too hard at I'm all ears.