This is also a good reason to lynch you. This is such a scumtell like seriously. This is almost as bad as "I don't fear the cop, cop me tonight" in the tell list.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:02 pm
by TheGarantula
In post 200, Cabd wrote:This is almost as bad as "I don't fear the cop, cop me tonight" in the tell list.
Reading the thread from my phone so I'd just like to ask why that's a tell. Not arguing, just curious.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:04 pm
by Cabd
In post 201, TheGarantula wrote:Reading the thread from my phone so I'd just like to ask why that's a tell. Not arguing, just curious.
It's essentially claiming godfather. Town has no reason to induce WIFOM into night action choices.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:13 pm
by goodmorning
Well if Cabd doesn't flip Scum now I'll be incredibly surprised.
In post 23, Cabd wrote:So this is usually RVS, but in this case, the mod seems to have messed up and sent me the alignment chart. Therefore Derivan and Darq are the scum. Game over~
VOTE: Derivan
How would you get the names of two scum from the alignment chart?
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:34 pm
by TheGarantula
He probably re-read the thread and realized he didn't understand that quoted post. The first reply of his definitely sounds like he agrees that lurking is scummy, which would align with his other comments; it doesn't seem to imply that he is saying anything about your earlier post about the alignment chart.
If you really think he is scummy why are you picking out such a weak example as your only evidence?
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:39 pm
by Cabd
In post 214, TheGarantula wrote:If you really think he is scummy why are you picking out such a weak example as your only evidence?
Have you even read my posts? Don't mis-rep me like that.
This is a scumclaim.
Let me make my big post elsewhere and I'll give you all a full case, but the SEs and IC should understand this. VOTE: Guyett
In post 198, Cabd wrote:Okay, you're totally wavering caught scum now, guylett.
Scum wants day to be over as soon as possible. Scum likes the night. I'm town. I frigging hate the night. It's useless for my win condition. Night is the scum phase, and entering it this early is dumb and scum motivated. Hence, you're claiming scum.
Nothing personal but this game is on the backburner, I've got another game close to deadline that needs attention first. I'll get to everyone in due time... around 2 and a half days IRL time or so. Might pop in a bit before that, depending on how busy work is.
an excuse for lurking?
Also this was (yes I'm using the O word guys) opportunistic of you to test the waters of following GM's vote on me without actually laying one down.
This is also a good reason to lynch you. This is such a scumtell like seriously. This is almost as bad as "I don't fear the cop, cop me tonight" in the tell list.
In post 213, Cabd wrote:I knew something else was bugging me! Found it. Note the ordering of these posts:
In post 23, Cabd wrote:So this is usually RVS, but in this case, the mod seems to have messed up and sent me the alignment chart. Therefore Derivan and Darq are the scum. Game over~
VOTE: Derivan
How would you get the names of two scum from the alignment chart?
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:50 pm
by TheGarantula
My point was that you said you were going to make a big case for him but you only cited 1 example from his previous posts.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:11 pm
by Cabd
In post 216, TheGarantula wrote:My point was that you said you were going to make a big case for him but you only cited 1 example from his previous posts.
Can a case be made ONLY with quotes? Does a case have to be a single wall instead of a laid out series of posts? Because if you think the answer is yes to either of those, you've got rough sailing ahead on this site.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:44 pm
by TheGarantula
It isn't like I posted 5 minutes after you wondering where the rest of your case was. It's been 6 hours and you haven't made a wall or a series of posts; you just made one. Why would you start to make a case without finishing? What point does that serve?
In post 198, Cabd wrote:Okay, you're totally wavering caught scum now, guylett.
What wavering? He didn't change any of his positions since your reply.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:46 pm
by bestwillcui
Ok so I am at L-1. Should I roleclaim?
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:15 pm
by JasonWazza
Not until intent to hammer.
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:51 pm
by Fegelein
I am not overly keen to hammer best at all. To me, he comes across as newb-Town more than newb-Scum. I can't really see his actions coming across from scum.
That being said, the interactions between Cabd and GoodMorning are interesting. Have a feeling one of them is scum, and it's probably Cabd because of his recent shitty case against Guyett.
Still think Dev is scum though, and he should be lynched as opposed to Best.
Dev/Cabd scum.
Best/Guyett/Jason and probably Garantula Town.
Null on Goodmorning and Darq.
In post 196, Guyett wrote:I don't really understand? I just asked if it was time for a hammer soon? How exactly does that make me scum aligned? I'm quite sure Best is scum and I'm quite positive I'm town aligned... however if you need proof by all means lynch me.
I would however refer people to post 183
Continued discussion is pro-town. Asking if it is time to hammer is suspicious especially since we still haven't even heard from Darq (or Darq's replacement) at all. Your last couple of posts definitely have me concerned. You can't bounce back and forth between "I don't know any better" and "Only those who know better will understand my advanced scum hunting moves" and not expect to be called out for it. It looks wishy-washy or poorly played at best.
I feel I should explain myself, as I've said before I've played on different forums and the length of time for day is a 12 hours rather than up to 14 days. This game is a good bit slower than that and I got a bit excited that the day was nearly over if someone hammered. I would put that down to rookie impatience rather than scummy behavior.
I believe Best is scum and I know a good few of you do too. regarding the bouncing back and forward I have learnt said scumhunting moves from previous experience but things like hammers are new to me. in my other games the day ends at 10 pm, a person could have a majority of votes and make a case for survival or another person would do something scummy and they would survive. I wouldnt say I am a newbie at the game but I am a newbie at the game on this forum.
Spoiler: cabd
In post 198, Cabd wrote:Okay, you're totally wavering caught scum now, guylett.
Scum wants day to be over as soon as possible. Scum likes the night. I'm town. I frigging hate the night. It's useless for my win condition. Night is the scum phase, and entering it this early is dumb and scum motivated. Hence, you're claiming scum.
Nothing personal but this game is on the backburner, I've got another game close to deadline that needs attention first. I'll get to everyone in due time... around 2 and a half days IRL time or so. Might pop in a bit before that, depending on how busy work is.
an excuse for lurking?
Also this was (yes I'm using the O word guys) opportunistic of you to test the waters of following GM's vote on me without actually laying one down.
you seem to be forgetting that I voted for you back on post 92...
I have been suspicious of you since before then. I was only getting light scum reads off you but after the last few hours I'm getting much heavier scum reads...
see post 144 and 177. So tell me again how was I being opportunistic again?
This is also a good reason to lynch you. This is such a scumtell like seriously. This is almost as bad as "I don't fear the cop, cop me tonight" in the tell list.
so everything that I do is coming off as a major scumtell? Why hasn't everyone else picked up on it?
my victory condition says that I win if all scum are removed, not that I must survive to the end. I dont mind getting lynched if it helps rout out scum like you.
Again see post 183 and for added measure have a look at this http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... 27s_Gambit
Spoiler: Gar questioning cabd lack of logic, cabd with a full on retard reply
In post 23, Cabd wrote:So this is usually RVS, but in this case, the mod seems to have messed up and sent me the alignment chart. Therefore Derivan and Darq are the scum. Game over~
VOTE: Derivan
How would you get the names of two scum from the alignment chart?
Are you actually serious!!!
Darq back then was possibly lurking but at least he was active then!!! He is not active now so he is not lurking? Until he comes back or is replaced I have nothing to say about darq...
As for me bringing up your little 'joke'.... how is that in any way scum related? Back then I was getting light scum reads off you and bumped it to remind people.
In post 216, TheGarantula wrote:My point was that you said you were going to make a big case for him but you only cited 1 example from his previous posts.
Can a case be made ONLY with quotes? Does a case have to be a single wall instead of a laid out series of posts? Because if you think the answer is yes to either of those, you've got rough sailing ahead on this site.
In post 218, TheGarantula wrote:It isn't like I posted 5 minutes after you wondering where the rest of your case was. It's been 6 hours and you haven't made a wall or a series of posts; you just made one. Why would you start to make a case without finishing? What point does that serve?
Cabds logic is so bad here, Gar points out that Cabd hasn't actually delivered what he promised and cabd gives a politicians cheap condescending answer. lol he was obviously furiously writing up a set of contradictory reasons as to why I am scum in those 6 hours
Spoiler: more crap from cabd being called up
In post 198, Cabd wrote:Okay, you're totally wavering caught scum now, guylett.
What wavering? He didn't change any of his positions since your reply.[/quote]
Its Guyett btw
how am I wavering? I was asleep
I had you down as potential scum and voted for you. Then Best did some more scummy stuff so I voted for him instead all the while keeping an eye on you.
You are currently 2nd in my list of potential scum and that hasn't changed since I voted for Best.... how is that wavering again?
an excuse for lurking?
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