Mini 1468: Legends of the Hidden Temple- Game Over!

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:55 am

In post 1617, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1615, AngryPidgeon wrote:pppedit: He DID challenge a group with a scum in it though, so whats wrong with Qwints pointing that out?
You can't be serious now. You agree that Venmar deserves towncredit for the NS lynch in any way?

Qwints has been in the game for less than a day and you are grilling him over notes hes making on a 65 page game. If his notes sounds like IIoA, its probably because he just replaced into a clusterfuckery of a game and is trying to keep the timeline of events clear in his head (a null tell) and noted that Venmar made the challenge for later reference. Its not like hes townreading Venmar really strongly for that, wtf?

P-edit: lol fuck you too. Everything qwints has said really hasn't made much of an impression either way except the fact that he willingly auditing himself in the thread is a light towntell.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:59 am

In post 1619, Wisdom wrote:AP I don't know how the fuck you see the slightest town motivation in qwints, please sit down and reread.

How about him being open about everything and his attitude basically being that he has nothing to hide?

You are scumreading him over him noting that Venmar challenged scum NS after pretending that Venmar did not do that.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:02 pm

NO YOU KNOW WHAT STUPID? YOU ASSERTING THAT QWINTS HAS READ ALL 65 PAGES AND CALLING HIM SCUMMY FOR NOT HAVING MORE CONTENT AS A RESULT.

I HAVENT READ ALL 65 PAGES BECAUSE THIS GAME IS A CF.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:02 pm

But relaxing and going away sounds like a good plan tbf.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:01 pm

In post 1630, Wisdom wrote:The point is that Venmar does not gain any town points for that challenge, since he never contributed in a NS lynch.

Are you seriously arguing that putting NS in the pool to be lynched is 'not contributing to the NS lynch'. Venmar put NS in danger and NS got lynched. This is a really dumb technicality you are arguing. Even if you don't think Venmar deserves credit for this, why is it a scummy point for Qwints to make? Is it really so baseless you cant understand someone else finding it NOTEWORTHY?

Its not like hes showering Venmar in towncred for it, holy butt.

In post 1631, qwints wrote:But a lynch pool with TWO scum is less good for scum than a lynch pool with ONE scum. Venmar-scum could easily have created a lynch-pool with ONE scum by challenging a two-townie team or a team with only one person on it.

This is completely ignoring the possibility that I could be scum, but you did say you think Im town so meh.

In post 1633, Wisdom wrote:It would be hypocrisy if he challenged anyone else.

But Venmar didn't actually have to issue a challenge in the first place. Would you find him less town if that were the case than you do right now?

...
Mollie, keep making posts because each one you make makes me townread you harder.

In post 1642, pirate mollie wrote:I also played with him in state farm briefly where he was town and people were all gung ho for his lurking and inadequate play.

Hmmm. Speaking of Statefarm mafia, I was gonna say earlier but forgot: SD isn't nearly as ragey as he was there. But given that he was barely in this game at all I don't think thats necessarily scummy of him.

In post 1644, pirate mollie wrote:I FUCKING DID NOT "freak out" about majiffy stop misrepping me

ap you and amrun are stoking fires

:/, I don't think you are scum though <3

unless you mean me bringing up Majiffy at all, in which case: :/

Pedit: Oh god I so many posts while Im distracted playing 7 wonders.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:09 pm

In post 1665, Wisdom wrote:qwints is obvscum and if you don't see it I can't help you.

Oh my god.

Could you be any more annoying?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:12 pm

In post 1668, Amrun wrote:Once again... you cannot lynch wisdom today.

...

What if I try really really hard?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:15 pm

Ok, serious face.

Grimgroove is scum. I really don't even need to explain that fact to anyone.

Enomis is scum. That wall post was shit and its obvious.

Someone else out there is scum and I don't give a shit right now. Can we lynch Enomis today?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Mollie calm down, holy fuck. You are not being helpful by raging. (And this is coming from me ;p )

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:21 pm

In post 1677, Wisdom wrote:Nope AP, we're lynching qwints today.

I WANT AN OOMPA LOOMPA AND I WANT IT NOOOOOW

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:34 pm

This is so dumb. Absolutely nothing productive has happened in the last 10 pages.

Im going to get to work on an actual Enomis case so I can stop just talking about Enomis and actually get Enomis lynched.

P-edit: That previous post wasnt blatantly scum motivated, was it?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:34 pm

Also qwints could you summarize the Elyse/you QT for us when you have a chance?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:38 pm

I guess 10 pages was an exaggeration. Everything today just feels like raging and waffling backandforth forever about nothing. I might just be bitter.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:02 pm

In post 1699, Amrun wrote:Majiffy, please address the recent happenings of the thread.

I really dont like this response to Majiffy voting you, reads forced.

In post 1700, Majiffy wrote:Venmar is barking up a dead tree.

What is this about?

In post 1707, Majiffy wrote:SD/You/Elyse

Why is Enomis town?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:04 pm

In post 1711, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1710, AngryPidgeon wrote:What is this about?
Enomis is town.

In post 1710, AngryPidgeon wrote:Why is Enomis town?
Because he's not scum.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:20 pm

Ugh what if its Mollie/Majiffy. That would make a TON of sense possibly.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:26 pm

Me? I dunno you guys are mutually doing the whole "Trust me, I know how to read my partner" shindig except you keep lightly prodding each other or posting intentional distancing at various points.

And mollie's behavior when I talked about you to her was a little off.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:29 pm

Ok

Mollie

What is your read on Grimgroove?
Did you have scumreads on SC or Grim when Majiffy made the challenge on them?

Majiffy

Why did you think I was scummy pre trollhammer yesterday?
Would you be willing to challenge Green tomorrow if you are wrong about Amrun?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:54 pm

In post 1729, Majiffy wrote:Actually I think the level of posting in this game is fairly manageable

I've been constantly behind. When I made tht comment about 10 pages of bullshit, I realized I'd rather be spending time reading shit I missed but I keep getting caught up in a whirlwind of walls and circlejerking.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:08 pm

In post 1731, Amrun wrote:You don't have grim in your scumreads. That's a major fucking problem because he is scum as fuck.

Ya, him ignoring Grim completely made me a little suspicious. Could see Majiffy/{mollie/grim} {qwints??/elyse??} maybe. I really don't see Majiffy ignoring GG and buddying up to Mollie if they are all scum as that would look suspicious as fuck after a GG flip and some town flips from the red/green group.

His opinions on me all game have boiled down to 'gut' which I mean :/. I can only fault you so much for that since thats me half the time, but even pointing out posts that swayed you one way or another would be super helpful.

I also tend to doubt Majiffy is flatout scumreading 3/4 of this lynch group if they are all town as scum.

I really doubt Amrun/Majiffy or Amrun/Wisdom are a pair after today. Amrun/{GG/mollie??}/{elyse/enomis} could make sense.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:17 pm

In post 1739, Amrun wrote:Though AP is singing a little siren song to me right now.

Actually any team without GG is wrong because GG is scum and that's obvious. Ugh what are the odds that Majiffy would put 3 scums into the first lynchpool as scum.

Its just insane enough to be viable.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:22 pm

I need to go ISO Enomis and GG to remind myself that they are both scum, brb

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:35 am

Oh look a string of shallow questions brought to you by Enomis to look like hes scumhunting.

Wisdom, cut the bullshit. If you are seriously lynching Amrun on the off chance that the team is explicitly Me/Her/Elyse then WTF?

Amrun x Qwints is slightly more likely with the flop onto Enomis but Enomis is scum so still not really.

Enomis, Why do you think its unlikely?? They just decided to cross bus for giggles despite neither of them getting any towncred for it?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:45 am

In post 1783, Wisdom wrote:On what planet do scum bus someone and at the same time plan the next bussing?

When you don't think that person is going to get lynched. Like I actuallypredicted an enomis lynch from this pool and turned out to be sadly mistaken. I would have guessed SD was getting lynched if not him though, so why not posture on Amrun? And its not like he had a choice when bussing NS; NS was going down at that point unless you somehow think a surprise Wisdom counterwagon was in the works at all.

Also wtf at both Grim and Wisdom connecting me to Amrun. Why the fuck are you guys doing that. If I wanted to save Amrun's bacon, I'd be shoving Qwints.

@Wisdom: Why do you see Amrun/Venmar connected?

In post 1791, Wisdom wrote:What is the connection between Amrun/Elyse?

They've been voting together since yesterday

That should be obvious.

In post 886, Grimgroove wrote:VOTE: Nobody Special

Even if only to spur him towards more content. He can't stay in hiding forever.

Don't have an especially strong townread on any of the four anymore. AngryPidgeon is my preference, but not enough to put him at L-1 already. Elyse and amrun on his wagon aren't exactly reassuring either.

Ya this is a scumpost. Hes not willing to vote someone he thinks is scum and hes overly focused on getting NS to generate content when a singular vote on NS is not going to do that. And if you look at his tone, he clearly doesnt care about me getting lynched immediately. Theres no urgency "GUYS WE NEED TO GET NS IN HERE TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION" but rather "Im just gonna posture over here on NS for a bit, go ahead and mislynch pidgeon without me guys

". And hes even distancing from my wagon by calling out people on it at THE SAME TIME. If it was really his preferred wagon he wouldn't be voting a nonentity and casting doubt on the people pushing me. Thats bullshit.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:51 am

In post 1774, Wisdom wrote:I don't lynch people to clarify things. I lynch them because they're scum.

In post 1810, Wisdom wrote:Anyway
VOTE: Amrun

We need the info regardless.

Yet you're lynching Amrun for information. I need to let this stew in my head for a bit, but I really dont like you hedging your way onto the Amrun lynch as an 'info lynch' when you claim thats not your style.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:03 am

In post 1747, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun, good job pressuring newbtown! (uh-oh, AtE)

Newbtown being you?

In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:Like many correctly said, what Nobody Secpail had given us at that point, was probably all that he was going to give us even if we had kept him alive.

This contradicts your opinion that we could get information out of him by voting him over me so I really feel like you are reaching out to anyone that said that as a soft-buddying attempt.

In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:So yes, it is very easy to make my posts look like someone who is being opportunistic in his ideas, especially when ISO'ing me. But my thoughts are not meant to be read in ISO, they're meant to be read in context. And the context explains perfectly why I change my mind about certain things.

ISOs are a great way to read someone and this preemptive "Don't ISO me it'll be inaccurate" is scummy as balls and a really really contrived point to bring on Amrun by saying she 'should know better' wrt you. Plus there is that nice sprinkling of burden of proof to actually go through and reread everything involved if they want to scumread you.

In post 1748, Grimgroove wrote:Angry Pidgeon's obsession with me makes me feel very uneasy. It has never been adequatelly backed up.

Thats because I've spent my time in thread defending myself from shitty wagons and perpetually behind. But I'll get to a 'formal case' if you'd like this weekend just for you. And this is also a terrible blanket statement to make because I HAVE indicated points of yours that I find scummy throughout the game so claiming that my suspicion on you is 100% baseless is a blatant discrediting attempt.

P-edit: OH AP ISN'T ALLOWED TO SCUMREAD ME FOR _THAT_ POST. THAT ONE DOESNT COUNT. Ya, just die scum. You cant have your cake and eat it to for FUCKS sake

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:14 am

In post 1757, Wisdom wrote:And how can anyone think that the Safety slot became better? qwints is fucking obvscum.

Ok, give me short bullet points on why you think Qwints is scum.

In post 1758, Grimgroove wrote:Mollie is town, her posts are of such a genuinity (guinineness?) that they cannot be faked. It is impossible to do.

Oh how I wish you were talking about me here

In post 1760, Wisdom wrote:I instantly smell bullshit and ask him to out all those "notes", and all he gives us is this:

Do you think he was flatout lying about taking notes on the game? Because that is a shitty case and something I doubt he would lie about if he were scum.

In post 1760, Wisdom wrote:He does not have a read on 3 people after 65 pages.

Um, he posted reads IIRC? Didnt he say me, mollie, majiffy were town and then also some scattered scumreads? And asserting that hes 100% caught up is putting words in his mouth and not even remotely possibly true IMHO.

In post 1762, Grimgroove wrote:Amrun is far more important, if only for my self-preservation.

If Amrun is still there the next daystage, I will challenge her myself.

Oh god this just gives me all sorts of chills. An Amrun scumflip does not conf-town you by any stretch of the imagination and Im not sure why you would think it does.

In post 1766, Wisdom wrote:mollie is probably scum for all the reasons I said.

Do you think Majiffy/mollie is possible?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:16 am

In post 1583, qwints wrote:Here's how I'm feeling right now:

Town reads: Elyse; Majiffy; Mollie; AP
Scum reads: Amrun; Grim

Seriously Wisdom wtf. you aren't blatantly cooking up scum motivated bullshit, are you?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:34 am

In post 1844, pirate mollie wrote:definitely posted more than you.

AngryPidgeon Jun 28, 11:33pm Jul 12, 10:16am 0 days 0 hours

228

pirate mollie Jun 28, 11:55pm Jul 12, 10:29am 0 days 0 hours

105

While complaining about blatant misreps, how ironic.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:37 am

In post 1846, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1843, AngryPidgeon wrote:Seriously Wisdom wtf. you aren't blatantly cooking up scum motivated bullshit, are you?
Are you sure you can read? I said he did not give reads on 3 people (myself, Venmar and enomis)

So? I'd be more suspicious if he had firm reads on the entire playerlist without having done anything in the thread. This is a seriously forced point you are pushing.

Also at mollie before you rage at me: I think you are most likely town, I regret my last post. Lets not start a pissing contest. Thx.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:40 am

In post 1859, Grimgroove wrote:AngryPidgeon, who would you challenge (hypothetically speaking) in the next round?

Depends on the flip, but you would be high on my radar regardless of any flip.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:40 am

What did you think I was going to say : ?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:44 am

In post 1858, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1857, AngryPidgeon wrote:So? I'd be more suspicious if he had firm reads on the entire playerlist without having done anything in the thread. This is a seriously forced point you are pushing.
I thought that if he didn't have firm reads on us, he would have multiple points why we could be town and why we could be scum. But he practically had fuckall. That's why I didn't like it.

I'm curious how long he was actually in the game when this whole notebook escapade went down cause IIRC it was not that long.

But really? I dont usually null-read people because they drop town and scum tells at the same time.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:47 am

In post 1862, Grimgroove wrote:You just admitted you don't have a case on me, just some "remarks" here and there. That's not a case.

THIS is the mentality that makes me confident in your lynch. I dont need a case to have a scumread on you. Quite the opposite really. Needing a 'formal case' on you to suspect you isa huge logical fallacy and usually comes from scum trying to discredit suspicion on them. But I already said I was intending to get to that this weekend. This game is flying fast and Im spending more time than I want to on it just trying not to get buried in the new posts.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:49 am

That hes scum?

Let me try saying it outloud. He reads you as null....so you should assume hes scum. No, not seeing why you are all up in arms about his nullread on you. And IIRC you were more concerned about his nullread on Venny.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:51 am

Haha, I want to sig that so much ^.

Coincidentally, what do you think about Majiffy right now?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:53 am

In post 1852, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1814, Wisdom wrote:Because I know for a fact mollie is able to fake anything, while I don't know that for enomis.
But I haven't seen anything from mollie that I would call genuine.
oh really

prove it

Oooooo I dislike this post. Only because in Posh Mafia Mollie was really proud of her scumplay offsite and talked about how she managed to AtE her way through waves of PRs and win a game once.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:05 am

Why would "doesn't have a read" necessarily mean "I feel both ways about you" as opposed to "I really don't feel either way about you?"

Also Mollie is town, I take back any suspicion of her. Majiffy still might not be town though.

Town: Mollie, Venmar
Likely Town: Majiffy, Wisdom
Scum: Enomis, GG

Unsure: Amrun, Elyse, Qwints

P-edit: Screw you too Mollie. Considering a lot of your posts are "IM TOWN IM WORKING WITH TOWN THIS ISNT MY SCUMPLAY". I mean I totally get why you are posting them and I know its hard to scumhunt on the defensive, but really. Im trying to offer you some olive branches here and dismissing ALL of my content as spam is pretty fucking upsetting.

@Grim: Its never too early to catch scum. See and as much as I love you (I really do enjoy some your posts) its subtle things like that that make me doubt your good intentions. If you really did have doubts about Majiffy (and from your perspective he challenged 2 townies on D1) then you shouldnt be casting him off as a waste of time to discuss. Im actually trying to iron out reads today since the previous days have all been immediate challenges.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:10 am

In post 1885, pirate mollie wrote:goddamn it ap, you know perfectly well that scum always try to go after me they do it in every single game. it is always for playstyle and they think that I am a easy mislynch until I meltdown and then they wind nking me. jesus christ you saw what slaandy was doing in gears wisdom is doing the exact same thing!

Aight, I need to actually get some word done today even if its Friday ><

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:10 am

work*

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:12 am

Ugh in hindsight I really don't like Amrun's response to me speculating on a Mollie/Majiffy/GG team.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:48 am

In post 1893, pirate mollie wrote:no. I don't. he is one of my stronger town reads.

I love you, but I really think you are wrong here. Could you give me a summary of this read?

In post 1899, qwints wrote:I'm not seeing where Amrun agreed to that, but I think it's safe to conclusively rule out Amrun-enomis-wisdom as a possibility.

Really? You don't see them both wagoning you together like its nobody's business to be suspicious? Especially when your predecessor was lurkaderp mislynch bait?

In post 1902, Wisdom wrote:And so did enomis in the next post, btw.

Enomis buddying up to the flow of the thread with a tack-on "ya what a great plan guys!!". Color me totally shocked that no one else sees this for what it is.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:54 am

In post 1929, pirate mollie wrote:20 bucks says you try to say that I never answered you 15 pages later. AGAIN.

Lets not break site rules even if this is clearly a joke.

Wisdom, if you are town you gotta stop using 'people see things differently than me' as a scumtell. Cause thats what your push on Mollie and qwints feels like.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:10 am

Was I being patronizing? Not my intent...But like I know 2 townies got themselves modkilled in the only other Mountainous I can think of for doing something similar :/
And ya I realize you were being sarcastic but some mods are unforgiving.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:19 pm

In post 1816, Grimgroove wrote:The saddest thing about this is that I'm not even a teenager.

Wait what was the context of this oO

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:20 pm

In post 1818, enomis wrote:Alright i am not getting anything.

Main thing i got:
Grim X Amrun not scum team.

Can we PLEASE lynch this?

-Lurking like fuck but shows up when people ring the bell
-Fake wall posts formatted to look 'genuine' intentionally
-Incredibly shallow attempts to scumhunt
-Apologizing for own play offhandedly

AngryPidgeon · Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:04 pm

I tell myself I'll get motivated to do this on the weekends all week and then I just wanna not think hard about anything on the weekends >.>

Intent to hammer Amrun.

This game isn't going forward any other way.

Enomis doesn't want to hammer Amrun because hes nervous scum (regardless of Amruns flip).

AngryPidgeon · Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:49 pm

Courtesy for you?

Point taken I guess.

VOTE: Amrun

I'm out for the night. Sorry if you're town Amrun; I don't particularly want to lynch you, but this dragging is antitown.

Team is probably Enomis/GG + {Amrun/Qwints/Elyse}

I promise I won't give mollie a blind eye. Unless your scum in which case oh god the WIFOM.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:59 am

In post 2057, Venmar wrote:At this point im willing to sheep AP's reads.

Funny thing, me too : P

I'll be around today (After work if nothing else).

Majiffy, I love how you are so willing to appear eager to challenge Green and then it turns out that was all just for show.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:01 am

In post 2076, enomis wrote:Pardon my repeating questions but why am i scum?

This attitude is scummy as balls for one. And I presented several reasons, not that I expect you to find them 'accurate'

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:09 am

In post 2055, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2053, enomis wrote:@wisdom: what happened that make you think I am scum when you were so sure I was town?
Your change seems abit awkward.
I thought your QT talk was genuine; but since Amrun was town, the QT talk being genuine does not mean you're town anymore.
In any case I suspect Elyse much more than you.

What about the QT chat is affected by the Amrun flip?

In post 2060, Majiffy wrote:Only person i like in GvO is Venmar, with a slight townread on AP.

But even if Venmar is scum, he snot getting lynched over anyone on Green anyways. (And I really doubt he is anyways)

In post 2064, Grimgroove wrote:Angry Pidgeon seemed intent on challenging me, and given Orange does not contain any strong scumreads of mine on this given moment,

When did you stop scumreading me?

In post 2072, Majiffy wrote:I want more from both of the Orange players.

Hello. Sorry if Im not up to my usual standards, but I'm still working my ass off with this and my other games, thanks.

@Wisdom: ya sec. Where did you talk about yours?

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:19 am

I joked a bit told him if he could guarantee hes not a guard that would be greaaat.
Asked how QT had 6 views.
More joking about needing the treasure to give my sister a nose job.
Venmar implies our lack of activity in the QT is mutually scummy.
Says 'my ap case has holes' and clarifies to mean Amrun I think.
More 'omg ya we're lurking game is so long' talk.

Asks me my alignment after I was 'hammered'
I was afk. Eventually asks me about new lynch pool, wants to lynch Amrun or SD.
I wall post a bit that ends up concluding the following: Grim + {SD/Elyse/Amrun} + Enomis.

Venmar also analyzes the lynch pool. Thinks elyse is town. Thinks Amrun is scum and SD/Elyse are opposite alignments.
He brings up mollie because hes afraid she might be off his radar - I say I think shes town.
I assert that I really only want to lynch Enomis.
I Asked mod if QTs are getting released (yes).
I tell Venmar I'm considering hammering amrun.
Both of us have expressed uncertainty about Majiffy at various points in the QT.

My last big post was about enomis/elyse/gg team making sense.
Venmars last post is 'no way were not lynching amrun' and saying there has to be at least one scum in Green.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:50 am

^ I was phoneposting in thread, but didn't think to check QT at all. So there is just a gap there around that time.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:06 am

In post 2089, Majiffy wrote:I'm trying to extract a point out of this but I just keep coming back to shrugging my shoulders and going "ok?"

Well? If you think I'm town and the probabilities of Venmar getting lynched are not really there, why put us in a lynch pool?

Why would GvO be interesting? Im having a hard time imagining why you would think that.

I asked yesterday if you would challenge Green and you were like 'oh ya of course I would' and now you are dodging around about it. Nothing scummy about not issuing a challenge but your response feel like appeasing in hindsight.

I've got attitude to spare today : )

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:15 am

Who dropped that comment about 1v1s being bad 'at this point in the game'. That person is probably scum.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:38 am

In post 2105, Wisdom wrote:Both Grim and enomis seem to want Elyse in the lynchpool, and they don't want to challenge each other. Possibly because they thought they'll have my support on an Elyse lynch.

How likely would Grim/Enomis/Qwints be?

I could buy it.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:43 am

In post 2110, Wisdom wrote:I find Grim/Enomis/ {Venmar/
AP
/Majiffy} more likely right now

fixed part of that for you. Majiffy feels less town as the game goes on and I haven't really stopped to think about him in context outside of him being a gut townread for making the first challenge and generally being Majiffy and not giving a shit.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:44 am

And do you really think I've spent the last bit of the game bussing BOTH of my buddies to hell and back for giggles?

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:52 am

In post 2114, qwints wrote:Ap, you've had enomis as scum for a long time, but you jumped off him yesterday to hammer amrun

Oh my god. he was clearly not getting lynched yesterday despite me talking about it all fucking day.

Enomis had yet to vote and was not voting Amrun. You hopped off Amrun to vote Enomis after it was clear that critical people (Mollie, Wisdom, Venmar, Majiffy) were not moving there.

It was a complete waste of time and the game needed to move on.

And why was my hammer scummy at all? I get the feeling you are trying to Enomis negatively by throwing that out there. Because the hammer was just fine, thanks.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:53 am

tie me to Enomis**

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:16 pm

In post 2123, Majiffy wrote:Why are you worried about being tied to a player that isn't even up to lynch?

Why the fuck is qwints saying that my hammer was bad. He was VOTING Amrun and now my hammer is super suspicious...for protecting Enomis. I don't see how he can possibly buy that.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:19 pm

In post 2104, Grimgroove wrote:I've got scumreads on both greens.
Plenty of people got scumread on me

This also scares me though.

"Look guys I have absolutely no problem being lynched ....BECAUSE IM NOT SCUM"

Town SHOULD have an issue with being lynched. Gragh.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 2127, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2125, AngryPidgeon wrote:He was VOTING Amrun
no, he had switched to enomis

And what his Amrun scumread just dissolved entirely?

If he thought she was super town or _I_ thought she was super town then I'd get it, but I never did and afaik he never did.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Also the 'join me qwints' is not how you address someone you think is scum.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:33 pm

In post 2128, qwints wrote:You were on enomis all day, but as soon as he became a viable target as opposed to me or amrun, you decided to hammer. That's why I think you and enomis makes sense.

Enomis was not viable though. Too many people were voteparking Amrun and there was pages and pages of me butting my head with Wisdom and Amrun about bullshit and everyone was who knows where (Enomis, Venmar) or unwilling to waver on their vote (Mollie, Majiffy, Wisdom). GG was waffling a little on it but kept going back to Amrun and never indicating that he had interest in actually switching.

The day was becoming nothing but spam. It was time for a flip and Amrun was going to be a continuous distraction even with the Enomis flip.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:36 pm

In post 2132, qwints wrote:Moving to today's lynch, why the hell haven't you voted for Grim yet AP? You've had him on your scum team forever.

Because Im waffling scum, obviously.

And can't decide if you would be bold enough to blatantly call me scum and ask me to sheep you in the same swing as scum.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:46 am

I'll be posting after work here.

Too many games.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:31 am

In post 2179, qwints wrote:Elyse swung the momentum from an AP lynch to the NS lynch.

No, I swung the momentum from an AP lynch to an NS lynch by being obvious town.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:12 am

I fail to see what is so scummy about 1993.

I mean really. Shes listing off enough townreads to justify a PoE scumteam and has no indication of the strength of her townreads relative to one another which feels convenient/forced.

Her mollie townread is based off mollie being emotional and not being in the lynch pool which is really shallow since mollie is ALWAYS emotional and being /not-being in the lynch pool shouldnt affect that.

In post 1993, Elyse wrote:Didn't know how many scum there were,

And this is a double standard - shes reading Amrun as town for ignorance of the setup but SD as scum for ignorance ofthe setup with his "Maybe none of the teams are scum/scum" escapade.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:13 am

In post 2186, AngryPidgeon wrote:I fail to see what is so
scummy
townie about 1993.

accidentally the opposite word.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:15 am

The only interesting thing about it is that she is calling your vote on her scummy and you are now buddying up to her by calling her scumread on you as towny as it gets and shoving Qwints.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:29 am

In post 2192, Majiffy wrote:Disregard earlier post: will deal with tomorrow.

Except tomorrow being today now.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:39 am

In post 2194, qwints wrote:Where'd mollie go? Didn't she promise a re-read yesterday?

Why not care about Elyse also derping about? Shes actually up for a lynch unlike Mollie.

You think shes town?; I cant remember.

I want a punctuation mark that is a ? or ! combined with a ;

its all anyone wants.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:39 am

^ She being Elyse, not mollie. Although what is your mollie read?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:53 am

In post 2189, Grimgroove wrote:There is no sense in buddying up to Elyse in my case, I know it, and you know it just as well.

This really does not feel town at all.

Yes there is plenty of motivation for you to butter up Elyse (unless you are scum together in which case

)

She will be voting either you or Qwints.

And she flipped her read on me despite tunneling me early on that Day I was lynchable. Its not like anybody in particular is immune to manipulation which is what you imply afterwards, lol.

Town buddy too but are way less likely to beat around the bush about it.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:56 am

In post 2176, enomis wrote:And i don't know why but there are lesser pages to read this few days. Maybe because i am more active in catching up or people are posting less.

This is basically blatant scum waffling about nothing.

In post 2176, enomis wrote:"Amrun knows majiffy is actually thinking alot than he is posting in the thread. So he wanted majiffy to continue his "questions" and think that majiffy will understand him". I think this is a town pov.
But when i checked in the morning, AP alr hammered. So i didn't bother to post this.

You did work to divine Amrun's alignment and then decided not to report it? Ya I know its 'pointless' at that point but its not because it helps us read you.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:38 am

VOTE: Elyse

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:32 am

In post 2205, Elyse wrote:AP who am I scum with

If you want connection cases, I'm not going to cough something up.

Enomis is scum. I'm really starting to worry about Majify/Wisdom not being both town. Wisdom would make the most sense because of his behavior yesterday.

I strongly doubt Grim is scum with you considering hes buddying up to you which would be a pretty bold scum/scum play and not something I'd expect from a newer player in general.

I'm leaning town on Qwints. I just really am not feeling scum-Qwints casting doubt on me an simultaneously trying to get me to join his wagon of choice.

I'm really surprised you would ask me about connections to you as opposed to why I'm voting you at all in the first place (although maybe Im not surprised).

In post 2205, Elyse wrote:The bolded makes it look like you were manipulating people when you were talking about your RL stuff.

You think Im confessing to manipulating somebody in this game as a supporting argument for my post to Grim?

Thats a really huge stretch and you pointing to one thing even that I did and saying this refers to it is really scummy.

In post 2205, Elyse wrote:Venmar doesn't do anything.

In post 2206, Venmar wrote:
Vote: Elyse

Good posting : P

Elyse is scum. Her talking about the game is just an attempt to link herself to Amrun's pre-death posting and fwiw I believe the Elyse is frustrated. It reads genuine but out of place and definitely not were her focus would be as town.

Also her calling me dumb/annoying looks like an attempt to mimic qwints doing the same to me and me calling him town for it. She first calls me scummy/scary but then ends up just reverting me to a dumb-read at the end and the flow reads fake.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:35 am

In post 2208, Wisdom wrote:Does that mean you've played with qwints before?
Why do you think he's town?

He also modded GoW where Qwints was scum. He was less..leadery I guess and more go-with-the-flow.

As town he has a bit of purpose and he doesnt care what he has to say to get his agenda through. (Futurama mafia which Venmar was also in)

Although a lot of the time I have a hard time getting a grasp on qwints because he can be inactive as town, but Im not seeing that or his scum meta here.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:36 am

In post 2216, enomis wrote:Because i got the feeling that he is town.
Like the push on AP with a solid case and sometimes, i can feel why he changes his read. Sometimes no.
He do send me scum vibes sometimes.
I am kind of stuck with him.
I would say leaning town if you ask me to pick one.

This is a waffle. Town doesnt need 5 lines to say "Leaning town. His case on AP read genuine."

In post 2212, enomis wrote:@qwints: I am getting to it. The problem is, i can't seem to get a read on Elyse. She posts too little. Like me maybe? And i am currently too lazy to iso her.

What is your feeling on Grim then?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:52 am

@GG: I'm not going to argue mafia theory with you. But yes, newer scum players are more likely to either fencesit on or ignore their buddies.

@Wisdom: Re disliking the game in general. Amrun said that before she went out, but I'm really not feeling it from Elyse in context.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 am

In post 2226, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2225, AngryPidgeon wrote:But yes, newer scum players are more likely to either fencesit on or ignore their buddies.
You're forgetting there's daytalk. Those theories do not apply when scum can coach each other.

So you think elyse/grim are scum/scum? And I really think thats a stretch either way to assume that all of the pieces of that puzzle necessarily came together.

Whats off about her calling me annoying is...all of it. I don't know where the hell that came from. She starts of by casting doubt on me then coasts it into an AP = annoying read. This all being in response to me voting her.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 am

No comment on me implying you are likely scum with Elyse because of yesterday?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:21 am

Ok, Im not sure why you are bothering to argue against me then if you agree they aren't scum/scum.

It really doesnt take much imagination to see you/Enomis/Elyse given the votes yesterday.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:29 pm

In post 2247, enomis wrote:Grim is town. Ap you reading?

I don't answer questions asked by Temple Guards.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:27 pm

If qwints were scum he prolly would have hammered that.

Catching up tomorrow.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:28 pm

Mmm well scum with elyse being town. I guess its possible they are both scum.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:38 am

Oh god, whats going on in this thread. I need to never join an always on nightless again.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:15 am

In post 2307, Grimgroove wrote:Kidding aside though, I have the impression this game is stuck.
Could the people not currently on the qwints wagon provide reasons for not being there? (as specific as possible)

Qwints feels townish to me. And I strongly doubt he butts heads with me when hes up for lynch as scum and I'm entertaining voting his wagon.

His bit about having notes feels really genuine in hindsight since hes basically auditing himself in the thread and unashamed about any possible inconsistencies spilling his notes could cause down the line if he were scum.

In post 2311, Venmar wrote:Don't know if I think anyone else is scum in this lynch pool, Qwints looks quite town imo. Maybe Grim but idk, i'll think it over a bit more.

Also, qwints feels different than he did in GoW mafia (I think I may have said that before).

In post 2312, Grimgroove wrote:The game has severely slowed down. Majiffy trying to get something going despite this, screams Majiffy being town to me.

This is a really shallow reason to townread someone... 'Screams' town? So anyone posting quote strips screams town to you or is there actually something he was doing that looks town?

In post 2313, Grimgroove wrote:You are basically saying the both of us are not of the same alignment and using our converging views on a certain matter as an argument that these views must be valuable, given our different alignment.
In order to use this as a factual argument in the way you just did, you truly have to take it for granted we are not from the same alignment. This is more than you simply suspecting me of being scum. This is you KNOWING I don't belong to your alignment. The only way you'd know we're not of the same alignment is when you're scum.

This is some shit. He never said that you being opposite/same alignments matters as all. I'll admit its a little odd that hes voting you and using your read on Elyse to encourage Majiffy to vote you, but thats more likely dumb than scum

Qwints: How likely do you think Grim is to flip scum?

More on this: Qwints obviously mentioned Grim because hes the other person up for a lynch, although Im not totally sure why he cares. I see hes emphasizing to other people in the lynch pool though, not sure how that makes me feel.

In post 2319, qwints wrote:We both had the opportunity to hammer.

This actually makes a ton of sense from a Qwints perspective and I tend to agree. Scum would have way more motivation to hammer town when they can potentially get off w/o being in the lynch pool after doing it.

@Qwints: Ok, so if Elyse is town and Grim is scum why did Grim not hammer? You monologued a bit about why _you_ didn't and of course it involves you being town.

In post 2325, pirate mollie wrote:everyone give a list of 3 players you would be okay to lynch.

How about people I wont lynch: you, venmar, wisdom* and prooobably qwints but I really need to reevaluate that since hes in a stagnant lynch pool atm.

*You aren't a scumbutt, are you Wisdom?

In post 2327, Elyse wrote:Qwints is a tough read for me but out of the current pool I would be willing to lynch him.

You just mentioned Grim as a possible qwints buddy (grim/qwints/enomis). Why do you see them as a possible team over anything else? Why did neither of them hammer you?

In post 2340, Venmar wrote:Her most recent post about complaining how she isn't in a hydra pings my radar.

I don't think this is alignment indicative. Mollie complained to me (in general, outside of this game) recently about how her hydras are somewhat flaking and overbooking her time in games.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:26 am

Also FWIW, my Elyse suspicions have been buried in the thread, but basically this.

In 1987 she claims she 'knew' NS was scum by PoE which given the lurking in the game, I just find highly unlikely. And she was willing to admit she was wrong about me on a dime so she clearly is not as headstrong as the AtE in the post would have us believe. And now she throws out hypothetical teams that either involve BOTH qwints/grim being scum or BOTH mollie/majiffy ( I realize she rectified that shortly after) but I have a hard time believing she doesn't see how unlikely them being s/s and not hammering her as town is.

And she claims that her scumreads were all based of PoE townreads at that point but was reluctant to vote Enomis at all until it was clear that amrun was getting lynched. I would not be surprised if this is a Grim/enomis bus whilst MLing qwints.

In post 1992, Grimgroove wrote:Elyse is too confident in Amrun being town.
MAybe she's right.

Side note: totally forgot about this. Grim sees Elyse as WKing Amrun but then drops Elyse suspicions for Qwints when suddenly its one of those 2 Vs him and Amrun isn't allowed? And actually vote parks Amrun with a little theatrics despite being paranoid about that. I wouldn't be so sure this was from cum if he hadn't just dropped his Elyse herpaderp IN LIGHT OF HIS PREDICTION BEING CORRECT to tunnel on qwints with his former? scumread.

Also around this time Elyse is still implying that Grim is scum trying to ML her, but Elyse thinks Amrun is town so why is she focused on his vote on her and not his amrun votepark?

Elyse/Grim scumteam. Last member could easily be Enomis or Wisdom.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:54 am

In post 2353, pirate mollie wrote:ap - still town reading him but there are some things that need to happen

Like what?

Come on mollie, I really want to work with you. You feel town and I can't really quantify it too well (although I can actually point to How2.5FriendsBangedYourMother now and you really dont feel like you did there).

The fake hammer incident is the HARDEST I've ever townslipped and if that isn't obvious, then : /

Every time I try to engage you about stuff (notably MAJIFFY) you get all paranoid and waffly until I give up and poke around elsewhere. We can sort this out with a solid, coordinated town base and I want to work with you on some lynches for my sanity's sake. We keep ending up on compromises or otherwise 'whatever' lynches.

Is Majiffy your biggest townread?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:22 am

In post 2359, Wisdom wrote:And I have not forgotten how he forgot his scumread on Grimgroove to vote Coug on D1, something that all of you have completely forgotten and ignore.

Oh shit that totally slipped my mind. I need to read some of those patches that I skimmed wrt Day 1 challenge.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:25 am

Mollie, you forgot about Enomis in your post. Which isn't terribly surprising since hes scum and lurking.

I really don't see anyone other than Enomis getting lynched tomorrow and I don't particularly give a shit who challenges him.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:49 pm

^ How do you expect us to believe your scumread on Qwints when you could be scum : ? What the fuck.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:55 pm

In post 2409, Majiffy wrote:
In post 2407, Venmar wrote:Majiffy move your vote to Grim then. Elyse is a terrible lynch now.
It's
my
Elyse wagon and I need it
now!

Thanks for making me genuinely lol.

I'll get to this CF after work.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:58 pm

In post 2424, Wisdom wrote:The main problem is not good scum, it's bad town.

Im just gonna go right ahead and townread you for this.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Ugh, qwints bringing up NS is reminding me why GG is scummmm, why did I let myself waver.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:07 pm

In post 2375, Grimgroove wrote:
In post 2360, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2359, Wisdom wrote:And I have not forgotten how he forgot his scumread on Grimgroove to vote Coug on D1, something that all of you have completely forgotten and ignore.
Oh shit that totally slipped my mind.
Could you clarify how this information is in any way consequential?

I skimmed/missed part of D1 because I was busy and somehow never made the time to read some of the bit surrounding Majiffy ending up on Coug over you. And you are up for lynch and Majiffy is someone that needs evaluating.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:11 pm

In post 2381, Grimgroove wrote:Given that I'mh ere by myself, I'll give you the developments of the Silver-QT. As StrangerCoug's request ended up not being an AtE in the end, I did as he asked and posted some of my thoughts.
Maybe he asked me to do this for a reason.

People typically do things with reasons, yes.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:47 pm

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:47 pm

why are we whispering

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:57 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5156192

Aight, so I really don't feel this GG post in particular ^. The whole 'oh BY THE WAY guys, I just happen to be taking notes!' feels really forced. I don't see why he cares to share whats in his QT when he can just say his thoughts in thread if he wants us to hear them.

And he apparently also feels that way because he goes out of his way to cite SC asking him to and lightly speculate on why SC would want him to do it. That is entirely irrelevant and it just feels like an unnecessary justification for just holding some select 'thoughts' back in the QT to reveal later. And its impoossible to know if GG even did write those things at those times, so _shrug_.

He's using the QT posts to 'prove' hes town because hes still taking pro-town notes without telling us

In post 2381, Grimgroove wrote:You could of course think I'm trolling the already dead StrangerCoug, but that's basically the same as saying you think I'm an asshole.

And as if he weren't posting this as a way of saying 'look how town I am', he masks it by implying that the only possible motivation he would have for keeping the QT as scum is to 'troll SC' and definitely not post its contents later for towncred. It just feels totally awkward that hes throwing this at us with no real stated point and just kind of expects us to connect the dots.

Also the talk about Enomis is crap. A 'mysterious wind' is telling us that Enomis is scum

That wind is me and you can find my CASE and POINTS on Enomis scattered around my ISO. In case you want to actually address the Enomis pressure formally instead of beating around the bush.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:41 pm

I think hes only actually voted once the entire game.

Everything else is forgettable posts like:

In post 1983, enomis wrote:
In post 1883, qwints wrote:HEY ENOMIS,

Care to explain why you have 1 (ONE) vote this game?

Please rank the other 3 people that can be lynched today besides yourself.
Hmmm... Dunnoe.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:02 am

Prod received. Sorry guys, Im just slightly burned out and trying to focus on work.

Im entertaining voting GG to speed things along. I think hes got about the same shot of flipping maf as Elyse after all that "hey look whats in my QT, this is totally not for towncred" nonsense.

I'll be back after work.

@Sera: Why do YOU find either/both of them scummy?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:05 am

In post 2517, SeraphicMirth wrote:Qwints is also an option but he reads as town to me pretty clearly and his predecessor did not contribute much

Then why is he an option other than the obvious fact hes up for lynch >.>

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:06 am

In post 2517, SeraphicMirth wrote:I have to figure out which is scum

How do you know either of them are scum? HOw much have you read at this point?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:39 pm

Ya I havent read that recent wall, but the "I have to decide correctly or else" mentality is not reassuring me of that slots off-chance-of-not-being-scum...ness

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:40 pm

In post 2522, SeraphicMirth wrote:I don't...I think I was kind of saying that in my post.

You basically said you need to choose correctly and then later we're like 'well, maybe they're both town!' I don't see where that attitude is coming from. Either you have reads on them or you don't. I dont get the automatic inherent assumption that they are scum/town.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:39 pm

Wisdom - who are the scum waiting for her to hammer Elyse in this worldview of yours?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:40 pm

Errrr GG, not Elyse.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:26 am

In post 2545, pirate mollie wrote:I can't remember if site meta dictates that if a lynch lasts this long it is on scum or not.

Who cares?

Also there are 2 lynches lasting this long.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:46 am

Finally. But I still want to know who you thought was waiting for Sera to lolhammer Grim.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:52 am

In post 2554, Wisdom wrote:I'll share though that Majiffy in particular made me think that he's bussing Elyse with a shit case so that Grim gets lynched instead (reverse psychology).

And you still think Majiffy is scum despite this not holding up?

Why Majiffy?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:54 am

Actually I don't care. Wisdom feels town and I strongly doubt he makes this statement as scum just to throw suspicion on Majiffy anyways.

Scum is Grim/Sera and someone else.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:21 am

Sorry Venny :/

I should have gone with my gut on gg, but I kept recalling Elyse's flop off of me and saying she was pissed that I brought up RL and I could only see scum motive and exasperation.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:22 am

Id like to point out that its 5:3 and 5 to lynch.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:25 am

Qwints, what is your opinion on Majiffy?

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:39 am

Wisdom, why is he voting Mollie then?

Majiffy, why bring up GG's activity? He posted a V/LA notification like pages ago.

I feel like I kept giving blue a blind eye. Either way, I strongly doubt Majiffy is scum with either mollie or GG.

Probably leaning GG at this moment.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:55 am

Qwints, you really think Majiffy put 2/3 scum in a lynch pool just to soft distance from Grim and ML mollie with ??? support for it?

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:56 am

In post 2624, Wisdom wrote:And how the fuck is the V/LA related to anything? He was already about to be lynched when he declared it.

I thought he meant Majiffy challenging him in part because they are scum/scum and expects GG to coast it out?

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:58 am

Majiffy/GG/Enomis?

I'd almost buy it. This PM flippity flop by Majiffy feels off. They've been buddy-buddy all game until suddenly Mollie is scum after he challengers Grim because she didnt react the same way as before?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:48 am

Sorry, fuck. I've been sick and feeling shitty.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:00 am

In post 2631, Majiffy wrote:I don't really pay attention to those things. I was bringing up everyone's activity, since Venmar and I had been the only ones posting in nearly 48 hours. It just happened that Grim's last post was far and away further back than anyone else's, so he was singled out.

Huh, I just noticed Mollie's vote for majiffy which was pretty sketch. If you aren't voting her to lynch her then what the fuck, go prod her in the QT or whatever.

In post 2622, qwints wrote:The bottom line is that we need to be lynching Grim, and that I think we're very likely to find his buddies in the people steering us away from a grim lynch.

People steering us away being....everyone on the Majiffy wagon? This thought feels town, but you should really work on going somewhere with it : ?

In post 2629, qwints wrote:I think town Majiffy put a scummy Mollie and grim in the lynch pool with him. The main reason I though Mollie was town was because Majiffy reads mollie well, and his switch takes that away.

So you don't particularly feel one way or the other about Mollie or you are just blatantly sheeping whatever Majiffy's read is?

In post 2643, SeraphicMirth wrote:I'm leaning for a Majiffy vote but I don't want to L-1 right now. I'd like to hear from Grim though as well.

This is probably posturing scum.

What did you think about the people voting Majiffy, particularly Wisdom?

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:00 am

Damn, I dislike open setups. Nightless is particularly bleh although I guess I had to try one sometime for the lolz.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:10 am

VOTE: Grimgroove

Not interested in Majiffy right now.

The challenge shows a lack of interest in self preservation. I kinda dislike how hes saying he did it for cred to a degree but ALSO saying hes trying to hunt Mollie, but I can see him doing it as pissed off town.

Still thinking GG/Sera. I don't feel extremely storngly about anyone else. Venmar's reads list and 'woe I have one townread' is hillariously pro-scum play if he is scum and his readshift on me for the fakehammer feels a bit like fake proactivity in hindsight. I just kind of want him to be town though :/ and nothing hes posted earlier has really stood out which is a bad sign.

Basically, I want to lynch GG/Sera and sort out the rest after that.

Qwints is very probably town after yesterday's shenanigans. I think people were trying to mislynch that shit and gave up.

-Need to look at VCAs.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:11 am

In post 2653, qwints wrote:
In post 2652, Majiffy wrote: I've tried external motivators.
Is that what they're calling it these days?

Was this a hilarious joke? Cause I think I get it.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:11 am

I'd like to talk to Mollie about her abysmal townread on Grimgroove.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:33 am

Oh shit Mollie is scumreading Majiffy now?

Mollie, why do you think GG is town?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:39 am

In post 2661, pirate mollie wrote:he has been issuing challenges all game

2 Challenges, yes. I don't see him doing it here as scum since he had a fair amount of pressure on him anyways and a fair number of other people are likely lynches.

GG is on V/LA - he didn't just disappear.

I kinda feel the same way. I hate not having night to play catchup in.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:33 am

Oh shit. Its Venmar/Grim.

You are deciding Majiffy is scum and fitting evidence to fit the read. Im not buying that you believe him issuing challenges is 'for appearance' when it quite clearly is not working out for him and why the fuck would he expect it to.

Your meta case is pretty shit and more of the same.

And yes, Majiffy decided to throw 2 scum into the lynch pool for appearances and then posture on the one townie in it for lolz despite there not being support for that lynch anyways.

Your GG scumread makes zero sense with Majiffy and you should help me lynch that.

Seriously, I'd love to hear your thought process behind Majiffy/Grim where Majiffy makes the most retarded scumplay - for appearances hes not getting - and effectively busses GG ever so softly into oblivion or just dies.

How about you help me lynch actual scum today - the GG wagon is right here.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:34 am

What even is your read on Wisdom.

Accuse me of waffling, lmao.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:35 am

In post 2675, Venmar wrote:DAT OMGUS

#dealwithit

What do you think scum majiffy expected to gain from this challenge?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:37 am

In post 2678, Venmar wrote:Oh god you discredited me in that case. AP, I wish you knew that was a scum tactic.

Lol, you dodged my questions Venmar. herpadurr.

Pardon me for waking the fuck up to the sweet smell of bullshit in the morning.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:38 am

Majiffy's play makes ZERO sense from scum, ESPECIALLY his dumb posturing on Mollie unless she is scum and he is just throwing in the towel which I also doubt because other people are mislynchable over him at this point if that were the case.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:39 am

Ok, how about this.

Why did scum-Majiffy challenge scum-GG instead of easily mislynchable Seraphic which I would be voting if he had?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:43 am

Right and you expended a burst of effort out of lurking to META majiffy and didn't bother to mention house of cards until Majiffy punches holes in your random meta nonsense.

I dont believe that for a second.

"Oh BTW I also meta'd you in another game proactively! Look how town I am!"

Venmar- when did issuing challenges even REMOTELY = towncred this game. People are still scumreading GG like fuck and Amrun got lynched (although I guess she was forced to challenge). And Majiffy has been labeled as suspicious for a while. This push of yours makes zero fucking sense. If you are town, help me understand it instead of assigning scum motive to what Im posting.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:44 am

In post 2675, Venmar wrote:DAT OMGUS

Also fucking lol, talk about discrediting.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:49 am

In post 2686, Venmar wrote:I think i said why Majiffy challenged GG, why are you asking me these useless questions.

So scum are in 3:5 and majiffy decides to soft-bus GG, by challenging him, but posture uselessly on Mollie for a bit w/o even really trying to get her mislynched?

IM SAYING THAT YOUR WORLDVIEW OF THE MATTER IS THAT ENOMIS/SERA ARE TOWN. WHY DID MAJIFFY NOT CHALLENGE THEM IN YOUR WORLD VIEW. WHY DID HE SOFT-BUS GG LIKE A DUMBASS TO MINIMIZE CFRED FOR IT AND GET A SCUM LYNCHED EITHER WAY?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:51 am

In post 2686, Venmar wrote:scumslip?

This is such a bad post. Bad in the scummy sense, I don't think you are this dumb Venmar.

Who instachallenged early on in this game.

1. Majiffy.
2. Venmar.

So you only did it for the towncred, got it. Cause we know Amrun didn't.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:52 am

Why are you not even remotely entertaining a GG lynch?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:53 am

So you think that All of Amrun/Sera and Qwints/Elyse were town when we all set up that lynch pool?

If so, then I'd be suspicious as fuck about whoever finagled that pool.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:03 pm

So Majiffy challenged GG for towncred. And decided to posture on Mollie for whatever reason instead of actually following through with the bus.

So when GG dies, majiffy now looks like he was distracting people with Mollie. Sounds legit.

Defended my fake-hammer reaction? Why would I want to talk about myself for no reason whatsoever?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:03 pm

If you want me to remind you how obvious town I am, I can. It might help your scumposts look less objectively scum-motivated.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Aight, I need to actually do work today. Also my parents are in town again FML so I'll be back after I ISO Venmar sometime in the next 24 hours.

Because this latest push is mindblowingly opportunistic and based on unlikely interactions of unflipped players.

Like I can't even comprehend what Majiffy's endgame is in Venmar's head. Get mollie ML'd by telling people he doesn't even think shes necessarily a scumread and somehow distance from GG at the same time?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:11 pm

In post 2696, Venmar wrote:I'm totally town and anyone suspecting me is scum because I am so TOWN

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:13 pm

The only scum motivated posting going on here is hypocrisy from Venmar with helpings of AtE that have no logical origin (Im so town you are scum for even thinking about lynching me) and hedging his way onto Majiffy suddenly because Majiffy is bussing the fuck out of GG for towncred, but Im not interested in lynching GG.

So scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:16 pm

In post 2696, Venmar wrote:- Holy fuck could you be try to set me up a mislynch a little bit harder? This is seriously scum motivated.

I'm sure the Majiffy scum-flip will make all my efforts for naught, so its ok. Keep on going with whatever you are doing.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:20 pm

Huh, does anyone else sometimes submit posts and instead of submitting, you get redirected to the front page?

It happens like once a week or something for me, so weird.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:20 pm

Lol now Venmar is ready to cozy up to Wisdom.

Although I could see Wisdom scum if Majiffy is. In that event GG is probably town and Sera is prolly scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:22 pm

In post 2705, Wisdom wrote:Grim is town, and AP gets frustrated
we're
scumreading Majiffy for the "wrong reasons".

Why are YOU scumreading Majiffy then?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:24 pm

Cause you are lumping yourself with Venmar despite that not making any fucking sense whatsoever.

P-edit: Ok, I will. I've been putting this game on the backburner due to another picking up and me being sick. My elyse read was shitty and I'm starting fresh.

YO HOME TO BELAIR

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 2712, Wisdom wrote:Seriously, AP? Read the thread.

Im making a point you cheeky scumbutt.

What 'wrong' reasons are YOU reading Majiffy for since you dont think GG is scum and apparently that is the wrong reasons I am so upset about Venny reading majiffy as scum for.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:28 pm

In post 2716, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2708, AngryPidgeon wrote:Lol now Venmar is ready to cozy up to Wisdom.

Although I could see Wisdom scum if Majiffy is. In that event GG is probably town and Sera is prolly scum.

In post 2709, Wisdom wrote:Good, wanna bus your buddy and challenge me?
Still waiting for you to follow up on your 2708 and do the above.

Proposition declined.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:29 pm

In post 2717, Venmar wrote:Don't forget your waffly Grim read.

PEdit: Why are you so upset with me reading Majiffy as scum. You sound like you know his alignment or something.

I want to lynch GG today.

I want my GG wagon and I want it now.

Majiffy is probably not scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:31 pm

In post 2381, Grimgroove wrote:Given that I'mh ere by myself, I'll give you the developments of the Silver-QT. As StrangerCoug's request ended up not being an AtE in the end, I did as he asked and posted some of my thoughts.
Maybe he asked me to do this for a reason. In a way I think I can use this to my advantage into convincing you that I'm town, because in the QT I've posted my internal thinking processes that didn't really have a place here in their entirety, but show my genuine struggle.
You could of course think I'm trolling the already dead StrangerCoug, but that's basically the same as saying you think I'm an asshole.

There's a total of 27 posts in my QT right now, post 18 is the first one after StrangerCoug's flip.

18: telling SC I'll continue posting as he asked, that I feel stupid after his lynch, that I still think Wisdom is scum. I say that if Wisdom turns out not be scum, I'll sheep my way through the rest of the game. I was obviously quite convinced Wisdom was scum at the time.
19: some self-pity tantrum about me having joined this kind of game too early in my mafiascum-processs, where I'm feel like I'm being manipulated left an right and how I'm unable to get any clear reads, as opposed to other players who seemingly have less problems with it (I guess I was referring to Majiffy specifcally at the time, but no names were added). I say I'm basing my reads on how people read me and itneract with me, and decide this will be the best way to go. Hence my scumread on Wisdom. Then I proceed to say I'll probably sheep my strognest townread, being pirate_mollie at that time.
20: Statement about me thinking Wisdom, Angry Pidgeon, Amrun and Elyse are my scumreads.
21: An apparent "aha-erlebnis" must have occurred in the topic,b ecause here I say that Wisdom is town after all.
22: Here I change my mind again on Wisdom, questioning my own arguments for thinking he's town (don't remember what these arguments were, should compare the times), and complaining about the fact I can't produce any strong argument. I start a thinking trajectory based on a fear that it's the lurkers who are scum (notably Safety Dance and Nobody Special) and call them pre-emptively lame for trying to win the game in this way in case they are. Some more self-pity about having to have been the one to be mislynched considering my poor town-play, and some criticism on townplay in general because of nitpicking and an atmosphere in the topic that doesn't seem to hint at an eventual town-win.
23: Excitement over thinking I found Amrun's scumslip, and calling Wisdom probably scum in the process, though I'm not as convinced about him. Contrasting with 22, here I have a strong sense of self-belief in having caught Amrun, and imagine myself getting credit for lynching scum in the future, making up for my poor performance earlier.
24: My self-belief has faded, and I am beginning to think Amrun could be town after all. I say that if she isn't scum, I won't know how to move forward in this game anymore. I express fear of being lynched over an Amrun townflip. I state Wisdom as my townread, and express frustration that this is the only information I got after 80 pages.
25: Scumread on Majiffy, but reluctance to call him out because I think it will just end up in me being lynched because I'd be challenging a close to universal townread. Saying Majiffy-enomis in a team is certainly possible.
26: I see Majiffy - qwints - Angry Pidgeon in a team here.
27: I confirm what I said in 26, three days later.

There you have it.

This is a scumpost. Lynch this.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:35 pm

He is dumping his QT for towncred without saying that is what he is doing until after hes called on it.

Overjustifying doing so by talking about SC pointlessly.

Incredibly self aware frame of mind if you actually bother to read into the sentences he is posting here. Hes narrating it so it sounds more legit than just saying it and shit like "Statement about me thinking..."

that isn't someone posting what they posted in their QT. That is someone trying to PROVE that they are town in a stupid way and hope someone puts the dots together so they get towncred for it. Except its hilariously obviously just a scum post and he needs to die.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:36 pm

In post 2722, Venmar wrote:I want to lynch Majiffy today.

I want my Majiffy wagon and I want it now.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 2723, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2718, AngryPidgeon wrote:Proposition declined.
You can't state "I think Majiffy-scum & Wisdom-scum & Grim-town" yet continue voting Grim. It only looks like you're trying to set me up when Majiffy will flip scum, which you're seeing that is going to happen.

Except I didn't you troll bag.

I said IF Majiffy is scum THEN Wisdom might be.

Not

I think Majiffy and Wisdom are scum together.

Seriously you seem to be missing that the core of my posting is about how I DONT think Majiffy is probable scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:41 pm

In post 2728, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2726, AngryPidgeon wrote:Except I didn't you troll bag.

I said IF Majiffy is scum THEN Wisdom might be.

Not

I think Majiffy and Wisdom are scum together.

Seriously you seem to be missing that the core of my posting is about how I DONT think Majiffy is probable scum.
Then why are you thinking about who is scum if Majiffy is scum?

Because you are making a sudden effort to connect me to Majiffy like you know what he may flip.

But you can't be scum cause that interferes with my other scumreads, stop.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:47 pm

In post 2731, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2729, AngryPidgeon wrote:But you can't be scum cause that interferes with my other scumreads, stop.
Wanna explain that to me?

I think GG and Sera are scum. Venmar is a reasonable shot at spot number 3

Majiffy flipping scum would give me heaps of Cog Dis to sort out internally. Im being funny/sarcastic in that post.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:50 pm

Shit, I actually saw the QT link in my PM and was like oh fuck where did this scumcard come from, I dont remember signing up for a game. Then I clicked the QT, saw Haschel's QT post about me/Venmar and STILL thought it was a scum QT up until I read the 'temple guard bit' and WTF'd lightly wondering if Venny was a usurper or some shit.

-- ^ There is me posting about myself just for you Venmar.

Wisdom, I don't particularly think you are scum. Does that explain it?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:54 pm

Ok. If Majiffy is scum. And you are scum. Then how many of my 3 top scum picks was I wrong about?

the ", stop" was my attempt at being humorous as if to imply you could just be town if you wanted to be as a favor for me.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:55 pm

What the fuck are we even arguing about.

Is there something you find scummy about my post or are you just going to ask peripherally related questions indefinitely?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:59 pm

I dont think you are scum. You being scum means I am wrong about people I actually think are scum. I think Majiffy being scum makes you more likely scum than majiffy being town.

That makes me wrong about 2 scumreads out of Grim/Sera/Venny? (although Venny is not someone Im extremely sold on.)

It also means that 2 people I don't articularly think are scum I was WRONG about.

I dont like being wrong.

I made a

stupid

hilarious joke in which I 'told' you to stop being scum so that I could be right about my reads and feel good about myself.

It is a joke because your actions cannot change your alignment that you already have, rather the inverse is true.

What the fuck is so interesting about it?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:00 pm

Damn it that posting bug keeps happening today.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:03 pm

for FUCKS sake.

I see a connection between you and Majiffy because you are adamanrtly and SUDDENLY selling me as scum contingent on a Majiffy flip AS IF Majiffy were ALREADY flipped scum and I defended him -> suspicious.

I dont find your posting particularly scummy other than an ASSOCIATIVE TELL that is invalid for obvious reasons if Majiffy flips town.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:03 pm

Wow. Ok.

Ok, just posture for me a bit. What does Majiffy flipping town hypothetically do for your view of the game?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:04 pm

(I have to say 'hypothetically' or Venmar will nail me on yet another scumslip)

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:06 pm

In post 2730, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Majiffy(3) - Wisdom, Venmar, pirate mollie
Grimgroove(2) - qwints, AngryPidgeon
pirate mollie(1) - Majiffy

GG is obviously going to vote Majiffy. Majiffy will end up on GG. Wagons at 4:3 and Sera gets to come in and trollolhammer Majiffy.

Maybe Mollie wont be a hard headed ass if I appeal to her.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 2739, Wisdom wrote:Why as town wouldn't you consider me being scum with your two scumreads?

Should I be?

Do you want me to concoct bullshit reasons to scumread you for no reason at all?

This is terrible posting as an art form, brought to you by Wisdom.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:11 pm

In post 2747, Wisdom wrote:Who says Sera won't vote before these happen?

Cause shes a cautious scumbag?

Who cares who votes first, they are both probable scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:12 pm

In post 2749, Majiffy wrote:
In post 2734, AngryPidgeon wrote:Shit, I actually saw the QT link in my PM and was like oh fuck where did this scumcard come from, I dont remember signing up for a game. Then I clicked the QT, saw Haschel's QT post about me/Venmar and STILL thought it was a scum QT up until I read the 'temple guard bit' and WTF'd lightly wondering if Venny was a usurper or some shit.
wut is any of this.

Venmar asking why I didn't want to talk about myself out of the blue reminded me of my reaction to seeing the role PM in my inbox so I figured I'd post it just to hassle him and see what he says about it.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:13 pm

In post 2751, Majiffy wrote:
In post 2717, Venmar wrote:PEdit: Why are you so upset with me reading Majiffy as scum. You sound like you know his alignment or something.
You realize this would make me
town
, right?

Hes accusing me of defending you cause we're scum buds.

Are we? I keep forgetting who is on my team this game.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:14 pm

Wisdom, I was being 100% humorous when I said 'don't be scum, that mucks up my reads'.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:15 pm

UNRELATED THINGS?

I keep telling you I was making a joke and you keep pressing me on it like its alignment indicative in the slightest.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:18 pm

THE ENTIRE SENTENCE WAS A JOKE, THE 'STOP' was the PUNCHLINE, not the ENTIRE JOKE.

I dont think you COULDNT be scum with Sera/GG for whatever reason.

Holy BUTT, this game is almost as derp as POSH MAFIA.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:19 pm

Also I told you that my reason for thinking you COULD be scum is 100% dependent on MAJIFFY being scum which OBVIOUSLY means I dont see you as scum with Sera/GG.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:20 pm

What is your Venmar read, quick points.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:25 pm

Aight, I'll be back. I gotta go home and stop my parents from finding all the incriminating shit in my house that I forgot to cleanup despite knowing they were coming.

Kinda curious what Majiffy thinks about Wisdom in light of these new pages.

AngryPidgeon · Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:09 am

Croquer tournament. So posh : )

AngryPidgeon · Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:29 pm

Venmar, I'd love to hear why I'm simultaneously upset you are lynching my scum buddy for the 'wrong' reasons and bussing the shit out of my other scum buddy.

Do the things you say actually make sense to you or do you just kinda say them?

AngryPidgeon · Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Oh my god, both of the scummies got replaced by Serras. Its a sign.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:45 pm

Serra, what are my odds of convincing you to self-vote?

AngryPidgeon · Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:26 pm

PSA for Majiffy: Serra is scum.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:55 am

In post 2847, serrapaladin wrote:I'm not sure how to feel about qwints not bringing Majiffy back to L-1 after declaring to hammer...

Because qwints wants to lynch you and flatout said that Majiffy is a compromise lynch.

Holy butt.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:05 am

In post 2847, serrapaladin wrote:I do think that QT thing was a simple misunderstanding

What about it was a misunderstanding?? I cant even tell if you are talking about what I think you are.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:09 am

In post 2850, serrapaladin wrote:Like hell he does. I'm at L-2 and with Venmar's hovering vote I might as well be at L-1.

That's not the point at which town thinks: "whelp, seems I'm not getting my actual scumread lynched, so let me just intent to hammer the counterwagon".

Except everyone on the Majiffy wagon is being stubborn as fuck.

I try to move people off and am called scum with Majiffy.

Shrug.

Maybe Im jaded cause literally every game Day has had the same bullshit happen.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:10 am

In post 2833, serrapaladin wrote:Tell me though, Venmar. What sparked your interest?

I would like Venmar to acknowledge this.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:36 pm

right, so when Mollie flips town I'll be revisiting the above 2 posts in particular.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 2887, serrapaladin wrote:And see, I really don't buy that no scum would be bussing Majiffy at this point.

Why exactly? Town is two mislynches away from losing, its not that hard to believe that scum would just be playing to win right now.

This feels like posturing.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:41 pm

In post 2877, qwints wrote:Serra, are you saying you think all 3 people in the pool right now are town?

Come on qwints, you aren't dumb. What do you think hes saying?

In post 2884, Wisdom wrote:So if you wanted to lynch your partner you would challenge someone who is much more likely to get lynched than the person you want lynched? Think that through again... nope. It's fake. He knew your slot would get lynched over mollie.

And he didn't even bother to think about himself getting lynched when at least 3 people have been talking about it?

In post 2886, serrapaladin wrote:frankly bad play for scum-Majiffy.

Yes exactly. This post is insightful.

In post 2888, Wisdom wrote:I don't see why they would. If the plan is to get your slot lynched, that's who they'll push. qwints' "let's do what we should have done yesterday" is especially indicative of this.

So the people that want to lynch Serra are scum or town? Why would scum majiffy care that his SCUMBUDDIES support lynching Serra.

Oh god there are 2 serras now and both need death.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:43 pm

Fuck it, Wisdom can be scum too. Majiffy is town. Venmar is voting scum so I dont really care. Qwints is town. Mollie is lurkaderp town.

That mollie hop is so fake its unreal.

"But ya Majiffy is still scum. And getting people to ML Sera. And hmm, well maybe hes town and mollies scum, OK COOL"

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:56 pm

Who voicing support for the Sera lynch is town?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:58 pm

In post 2886, serrapaladin wrote:All it did was antagonise her and bring him closer to being lynched.

Lol, this is not a revelation.

I've been bringing up that Makiffy is doing OBJECTIVELY ANTI-SCUM THINGS for him to be doing and you and venmar have been derping about it and assigning it to "town cred"

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:04 pm

Why would mollie-scum make me likely town?

At LEAST one of the Sera's are scum. Not seeing qwints at all. I might buy Venmar/Mollie/Seraphic.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:08 pm

In post 2900, serrapaladin wrote:AP, if you're convinced Majiffy is town, why are you disregarding his read on mollie?

I dont sheep anybody just because. : S

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:09 pm

In post 2900, serrapaladin wrote:AP, would you please define in what way you're using the word "posturing". I'm getting the impression it's more a buzzword for you than anything else. Also, could you make sure you write both r's in serra (or else call me SP, or pala, or something).

Ya, thats a good idea. I noticed I dropped an R.

By posturing I mean that you are making statements about the game without having any emotional/logical reason for believing them.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 2903, AngryPidgeon wrote:without having any emotional/logical reason for believing them.

For instance, you saying that Majiffy is being bussed if scum doesn't really make sense for me.

Do you just expect scum to be bussing all the time? Who is bussing mollie if she is scum?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:10 pm

In post 2904, AngryPidgeon wrote:
for
to me.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:15 am

In post 1288, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Nobody Special (6) - Majiffy, SafetyDance, Wisdom,
Elyse, Grimgroove
, AngryPidgeon

Given that there are 4 unknowns for you on this wagon, and only 4/7 people in the game are town from your lens, I'd sure hope you thought scum was on the wagon >.>