Kidz Lemonde Stand Mini (#284) - GAME OVER
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harry, if you knew clara was innocent, why didnt you try to defend him d2?
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for a little whileharry, if you knew clara was innocent, why didnt you try to defend him d2?
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Harry, I'll buy your cop claim, because at this stage of the game it would be ludicrous for scum to claim cop (for the same reason though your vote on me is stupid). We could have a naive cop, and a regular cop (theoretically I could be insane, but then I would have picked two scums in three nights).
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I find this lineIron Maiden wrote:...because at this stage of the game it would be ludicrous for scum to claim cop
extremely
suspect at this point. It ingratiates without being forceful; it's got a gorgeous subtlety to it, a subliminal "I'm a townie because no scum in their right mind would do what I did." It's like WIFOM only 10 times as insidious.The first cop to claim is always the most trusted, and IM played it beautifully. Harry's play as a cop with only innocent results makes a lot of sense to me; trying to feel out if he's naive or just unlucky, unwilling to risk throwing himself into it yesterday because he had a suspicion he might be naive, and maybe cause you'd think a townie would try and defend herself (:roll:).
I'm really not feeling this whole deal. I was toying with the notion that IM was insane (or that I investigate as guilty), but now I'm pretty sure he's just a sscumbag running a well-executed gambit.
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So gorgeously subtle that I explain it in the same line? Give me a break.Lostprophet wrote:I find this lineextremelysuspect at this point. It ingratiates without being forceful; it's got a gorgeous subtlety to it, a subliminal "I'm a townie because no scum in their right mind would do what I did." It's like WIFOM only 10 times as insidious.
Bah. You're the scumbag and you know it.I was toying with the notion that IM was insane (or that I investigate as guilty), but now I'm pretty sure he's just a sscumbag running a well-executed gambit.
I know Iron Maiden's results to be correct if they are real results. I am masons with Amielisay.
It worries me too much that HP's investigations are all obvious leechs on IM's and Clara, who he could have protected from dying (with a doc still around it was clearly a good move).
Potential vote stands on LP.
It worries me too much that HP's investigations are all obvious leechs on IM's and Clara, who he could have protected from dying (with a doc still around it was clearly a good move).
Potential vote stands on LP.
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I wasn't sure if armlx wanted to come out yet or not, or I would have interjected that a bit earlier...
Assuming we believe both IM and Hp's claims, that leaves Shamrock and LP
Would two scum and an SK be the proper balance?
Assuming we believe both IM and Hp's claims, that leaves Shamrock and LP
Would two scum and an SK be the proper balance?
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I chose LP randomly, I chose Claramata after voting last, I tried to stall the bandwagon on Clara without stopping people from voting completely so I would have a voting pattern today. Then Clara got lynched before I came back. I was expecting you guys to argue about the lynch for a while or for a replacement to show up. I chose Beaker on a hunch.
There's nothing in my role that would make me doubt my sanity. I just don't want to see us lose today. I'll be back tonight to post more.
There's nothing in my role that would make me doubt my sanity. I just don't want to see us lose today. I'll be back tonight to post more.
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Fair enough, I reread the Clara lynch and Harry did try to stall.
Things I am sure of:
Beaker is Town (or GF)
Me and Amilisay are town (unless she is scum-mason, which is a WTF u win deal)
One or 2 of HP and IM are town
That leaves one viable choice (I don't want to gamble on which cop is real yet)
Unless HP and LP are scum together in a 2 man mafia, Shmrock is scum. If they are in a 2 man mafia, we still have another lynch (unless Beaker is godfather or HP and IM are scum...)
Things I am sure of:
Beaker is Town (or GF)
Me and Amilisay are town (unless she is scum-mason, which is a WTF u win deal)
One or 2 of HP and IM are town
That leaves one viable choice (I don't want to gamble on which cop is real yet)
Vote Shamrock
Unless HP and LP are scum together in a 2 man mafia, Shmrock is scum. If they are in a 2 man mafia, we still have another lynch (unless Beaker is godfather or HP and IM are scum...)
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I seriously doubt that we have two cops and two doc(-ish) roles if there's only a 2-man Mafia. I'm very much willing to take the plunge on IM because
he got my alignment wrong
. If there's only a 2-man Mafia, I think it's very likely that there is a GF, who could be either one of Shamrock or Beaker. In either case, no investigation by Harry is going to help, so we're better off sticking with lynching the lying "cop" and figuring it out from there. We'll be down a scum and a townie tomorrow morning (I assume the kill will go through), and we'll have 5 alive, meaning we lynch Sham then Beaker and win. But if we gamble today on Shamrock, then we have 5 tomorrow with 2 scum, and we'll be in LOL for two straight days. Prolonging the game is definitely tipped in the scum's favor. Our best play is to lynch IM today.Vote: Iron Maiden
.BTW, something to note in any calculations of how busted the game is, me and Amelisay had to find one another to start (we each chose someone every night, if they were the other mason we became masons, we got lucky N1).
Still, I can't see a Doc/Cop/Pseudo-RB/Masons game without 3 mafia. Therefore, Shamrock = mafia, and either
-IM & Beaker = mafia
-HP and LP= mafia (Beaker = GF)
-LP and Beaker= Mafia (Beaker = GF, HP= Naive cop)
Next lynch should be LP or Beaker, after the 100% sure Shamrock. Leaning LP as he has a guilty result on him and his role overpowers the town with a doc already in play.
Still, I can't see a Doc/Cop/Pseudo-RB/Masons game without 3 mafia. Therefore, Shamrock = mafia, and either
-IM & Beaker = mafia
-HP and LP= mafia (Beaker = GF)
-LP and Beaker= Mafia (Beaker = GF, HP= Naive cop)
Next lynch should be LP or Beaker, after the 100% sure Shamrock. Leaning LP as he has a guilty result on him and his role overpowers the town with a doc already in play.
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I will be L/A till Mon. 10 (Going out of state) If possible I will proxy my vote to armlx.
Is there anyone (who has time) who can lay out what has been claimed for consideration?
Is there anyone (who has time) who can lay out what has been claimed for consideration?
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Night 1: Beaker - randomBeaker wrote:to each of the claimed cops, why did you investigate who you did??
Night 2: Ameliaslay: because she was on the ill-advised uraj45 bandwagon, but I had not much else against her (see comment later).
Night 3: Lostprophet: because of posts 171 and 184 which mildly set off my scum radar, although I regarded Harrypotter as more directly suspicious.
To the chocis of nights 2 and 3: I prefer when I am a cop not to check the most suspicious players, because they are candidate lynchfodder anyway, but try to sniff out those who are less suspicious. I think the cop role is far more powerful that way.
I need to re-think the game set-up to further make up my mind. Lostprophet is scum (I don't believe the insane option), but I need to relook the others, with indeed a Godfather option.
armlx, i have to agree with your analysis in post 209
and unless Ameliaslay (or you) is a scum mason, you're right
and unless Ameliaslay (or you) is a scum mason, you're right
vote:shamrock
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Shamrock
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(Armlx), (Beaker), (Iron Maiden), (Ameliaslay)
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"I know you are but what am I?",
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?"
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?",
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?"
"A thief"
Geez little kids can get annoying when they argue... To try and put a stop to the argueing one kid spoke up...
"He's not a thief! I saw him sleeping last night..."
All eyes turn to him...
"What were you doing awake?" they seemed to ask....
He swallowed hard... "crud."
He is strung up, and thankfully money is found in his pocket...
Shamrock - Brad Shoe - Scum - Has been lynched.
It is now Night 3, Please send in your night choices.
Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...
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You all wake up from your little nap... All happy that your were able to find a thief...
Then you notice, your little group is even smaller... Now there's only five of you. Looking down from the Tree house entrance you see another one of you who met his fate to soon... Armlx has been pushed from the tree house. The rest of you, with renewed determination, set out to lynch the thieves and murderers amongst you.
has been killed Night 3
There are now 5 alive, which means it's 3 to lynch.
Then you notice, your little group is even smaller... Now there's only five of you. Looking down from the Tree house entrance you see another one of you who met his fate to soon... Armlx has been pushed from the tree house. The rest of you, with renewed determination, set out to lynch the thieves and murderers amongst you.
Armlx - William Talky – Mason
has been killed Night 3
There are now 5 alive, which means it's 3 to lynch.
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Ame:you asked for what has been claimed
IM claimed cop - finding LP and HP as scum
HP counterclaimed cop - finding no scum so far - HP, who did you investigate last night?
LP claimed bodyguard - doc, but he dies if the person he protects is attacked
LostProphet, you asked IronMaiden why he survived the night, then why not ask Harry why he survived
also, who did you target last night, and why??
IM claimed cop - finding LP and HP as scum
HP counterclaimed cop - finding no scum so far - HP, who did you investigate last night?
LP claimed bodyguard - doc, but he dies if the person he protects is attacked
LostProphet, you asked IronMaiden why he survived the night, then why not ask Harry why he survived
also, who did you target last night, and why??
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