Kidz Lemonde Stand Mini (#284) - GAME OVER


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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:28 pm

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this takes some thought

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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:29 pm

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this takes some thought

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harry, if you knew clara was innocent, why didnt you try to defend him d2?
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:54 am

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Harry, I'll buy your cop claim, because at this stage of the game it would be ludicrous for scum to claim cop (for the same reason though your vote on me is stupid). We could have a naive cop, and a regular cop (theoretically I could be insane, but then I would have picked two scums in three nights).
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:31 am

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Iron Maiden wrote:...because at this stage of the game it would be ludicrous for scum to claim cop
I find this line
extremely
suspect at this point. It ingratiates without being forceful; it's got a gorgeous subtlety to it, a subliminal "I'm a townie because no scum in their right mind would do what I did." It's like WIFOM only 10 times as insidious.

The first cop to claim is always the most trusted, and IM played it beautifully. Harry's play as a cop with only innocent results makes a lot of sense to me; trying to feel out if he's naive or just unlucky, unwilling to risk throwing himself into it yesterday because he had a suspicion he might be naive, and maybe cause you'd think a townie would try and defend herself (:roll:).

I'm really not feeling this whole deal. I was toying with the notion that IM was insane (or that I investigate as guilty), but now I'm pretty sure he's just a sscumbag running a well-executed gambit.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:37 am

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Lostprophet wrote:I find this line
extremely
suspect at this point. It ingratiates without being forceful; it's got a gorgeous subtlety to it, a subliminal "I'm a townie because no scum in their right mind would do what I did." It's like WIFOM only 10 times as insidious.
So gorgeously subtle that I explain it in the same line? Give me a break.
I was toying with the notion that IM was insane (or that I investigate as guilty), but now I'm pretty sure he's just a sscumbag running a well-executed gambit.
Bah. You're the scumbag and you know it.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:26 pm

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I know Iron Maiden's results to be correct if they are real results. I am masons with Amielisay.

It worries me too much that HP's investigations are all obvious leechs on IM's and Clara, who he could have protected from dying (with a doc still around it was clearly a good move).

Potential vote stands on LP.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:21 pm

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to each of the claimed cops, why did you investigate who you did??
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:20 pm

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I wasn't sure if armlx wanted to come out yet or not, or I would have interjected that a bit earlier...
Assuming we believe both IM and Hp's claims, that leaves Shamrock and LP

Would two scum and an SK be the proper balance?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:52 am

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I chose LP randomly, I chose Claramata after voting last, I tried to stall the bandwagon on Clara without stopping people from voting completely so I would have a voting pattern today. Then Clara got lynched before I came back. I was expecting you guys to argue about the lynch for a while or for a replacement to show up. I chose Beaker on a hunch.

There's nothing in my role that would make me doubt my sanity. I just don't want to see us lose today. I'll be back tonight to post more.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:26 am

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Fair enough, I reread the Clara lynch and Harry did try to stall.

Things I am sure of:

Beaker is Town (or GF)
Me and Amilisay are town (unless she is scum-mason, which is a WTF u win deal)
One or 2 of HP and IM are town

That leaves one viable choice (I don't want to gamble on which cop is real yet)

Vote Shamrock


Unless HP and LP are scum together in a 2 man mafia, Shmrock is scum. If they are in a 2 man mafia, we still have another lynch (unless Beaker is godfather or HP and IM are scum...)
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:10 am

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I seriously doubt that we have two cops and two doc(-ish) roles if there's only a 2-man Mafia. I'm very much willing to take the plunge on IM because
he got my alignment wrong
. If there's only a 2-man Mafia, I think it's very likely that there is a GF, who could be either one of Shamrock or Beaker. In either case, no investigation by Harry is going to help, so we're better off sticking with lynching the lying "cop" and figuring it out from there. We'll be down a scum and a townie tomorrow morning (I assume the kill will go through), and we'll have 5 alive, meaning we lynch Sham then Beaker and win. But if we gamble today on Shamrock, then we have 5 tomorrow with 2 scum, and we'll be in LOL for two straight days. Prolonging the game is definitely tipped in the scum's favor. Our best play is to lynch IM today.

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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:05 am

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It's also entirely possible that Harry is naive.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:38 am

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True Shamrock. Then IM is clearly town, and the mafia is you and LP (maybe Beaker as GF).
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:49 am

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BTW, something to note in any calculations of how busted the game is, me and Amelisay had to find one another to start (we each chose someone every night, if they were the other mason we became masons, we got lucky N1).

Still, I can't see a Doc/Cop/Pseudo-RB/Masons game without 3 mafia. Therefore, Shamrock = mafia, and either

-IM & Beaker = mafia
-HP and LP= mafia (Beaker = GF)
-LP and Beaker= Mafia (Beaker = GF, HP= Naive cop)

Next lynch should be LP or Beaker, after the 100% sure Shamrock. Leaning LP as he has a guilty result on him and his role overpowers the town with a doc already in play.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:12 pm

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I will be L/A till Mon. 10 (Going out of state) If possible I will proxy my vote to armlx.

Is there anyone (who has time) who can lay out what has been claimed for consideration?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:31 am

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Beaker wrote:to each of the claimed cops, why did you investigate who you did??
Night 1: Beaker - random

Night 2: Ameliaslay: because she was on the ill-advised uraj45 bandwagon, but I had not much else against her (see comment later).

Night 3: Lostprophet: because of posts 171 and 184 which mildly set off my scum radar, although I regarded Harrypotter as more directly suspicious.

To the chocis of nights 2 and 3: I prefer when I am a cop not to check the most suspicious players, because they are candidate lynchfodder anyway, but try to sniff out those who are less suspicious. I think the cop role is far more powerful that way.

I need to re-think the game set-up to further make up my mind. Lostprophet is scum (I don't believe the insane option), but I need to relook the others, with indeed a Godfather option.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:57 am

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IM: Its actually impossible for you to be anything but sane (or random, but that doesn't happen). Well, there is the off chance Amielisay is scum masons with me and Beaker is scum... but if that happens scum deserves to win.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:14 am

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armlx, i have to agree with your analysis in post 209
and unless Ameliaslay (or you) is a scum mason, you're right
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:14 am

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Fine, let's roll with that:

Unvote Lostprophet
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:02 am

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Amelisay votes Shamrock


If I die at night A-Say's vote will just wait until he comes back. I don't trust anyone else yet wit ha proxy vote..
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:02 am

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The Votecount


Shamrock
4
(Armlx), (Beaker), (Iron Maiden), (Ameliaslay)

Iron Maiden
2
(Harry_Potter),(Lostprophet)


"I know you are but what am I?",
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?"
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?",
"A thief"
"I know you are but what am I?"
"A thief"

Geez little kids can get annoying when they argue... To try and put a stop to the argueing one kid spoke up...

"He's not a thief! I saw him sleeping last night..."

All eyes turn to him...

"What were you doing awake?" they seemed to ask....

He swallowed hard... "crud."

He is strung up, and thankfully money is found in his pocket...

Shamrock - Brad Shoe - Scum - Has been lynched.


It is now Night 3, Please send in your night choices.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:16 am

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You all wake up from your little nap... All happy that your were able to find a thief...
Then you notice, your little group is even smaller... Now there's only five of you. Looking down from the Tree house entrance you see another one of you who met his fate to soon... Armlx has been pushed from the tree house. The rest of you, with renewed determination, set out to lynch the thieves and murderers amongst you.

Armlx - William Talky – Mason

has been killed Night 3

There are now 5 alive, which means it's 3 to lynch.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:00 am

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Well gee, Iron Maiden, it is
awfully
convenient that you made it through the night.

Harry, who'd you put under the magnifying glass?
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:50 am

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It is also awfully stupid that you single me out as being a suspect to come through the night as a claimed cop, and then ask your scum buddy HarryPotter without questioning why he made it in the same situation....

I checked Harry last night. He is scum as well.

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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:58 am

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Ame:you asked for what has been claimed

IM claimed cop - finding LP and HP as scum
HP counterclaimed cop - finding no scum so far - HP, who did you investigate last night?
LP claimed bodyguard - doc, but he dies if the person he protects is attacked

LostProphet, you asked IronMaiden why he survived the night, then why not ask Harry why he survived
also, who did you target last night, and why??
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