Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

Brian Skies · Post Post #839 (isolation #200) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:03 pm

Ermahgad. Everyone is sleeping and I live in the Pacific time zone. Well, I'll wake up early just for you guys. Probably in 6-7 hours.

Brian Skies · Post Post #842 (isolation #201) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:21 pm

Loool. I was about to ask if you just skipped the entire discussion between me and Shii.

I was just about to vote Nacho before I went to sleep. Should I just hammer?

Brian Skies · Post Post #843 (isolation #202) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:22 pm

I feel bad because notscience and Nacho aren't here.

Brian Skies · Post Post #844 (isolation #203) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:23 pm

Fuck it. #YOLO

VOTE: Nacho

Brian Skies · Post Post #845 (isolation #204) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:24 pm

Hopefully Nacho flips scum.

If not, see you all Day 3. Or 4. I don't know.

Brian Skies · Post Post #849 (isolation #205) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:23 pm

Oh god. The wrath of Nacho.

Brian Skies · Post Post #850 (isolation #206) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:24 pm

I'm just repeating what I hear Nacho. T_T

And tunnels can be good as long as I'm not the one doing it.

Brian Skies · Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:22 am

Or not. It's not like I'm ignoring this thread.

Brian Skies · Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:22 am

I'm just mulling things over.

Brian Skies · Post Post #876 (isolation #209) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:19 pm

I didn't get a prod. Even so, Shii has way more than I do. And the game will probably end today. So there's no point in getting a replacement.

@notscience: You still have to explain most of my wall against you. You've been pretty safe in terms of giving us your reads this game. You've asked me for my reads, but never asked for Gaiden's. The activity regarding you and Gaiden when Verbs voted Gaiden looks like buddying. You haven't done much in the way of scumhunting.

@Shii: You need to explain why you were so adamant in going after Nacho instead of notscience. You had a better case against ns but still veered me and Titus towards Nacho.

There may be other issues, but those are the ones off the top of my head. I'll revisit this thread later.

Brian Skies · Post Post #878 (isolation #210) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:19 am

What makes you think it was a no kill? It is very likely that one of us was targeted.

Brian Skies · Post Post #881 (isolation #211) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:23 pm

What are you talking about? Do you know how the newbie matrix works? Verbs was the tracker, so there is no jailkeeper.

Brian Skies · Post Post #882 (isolation #212) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:59 pm

I can only be a Doctor or a BP.

Brian Skies · Post Post #886 (isolation #213) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:05 pm

@Notscience: Why are you saying that to me?

Brian Skies · Post Post #889 (isolation #214) » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:45 pm

In post 876, Brian Skies wrote:@notscience: You still have to explain most of my wall against you. You've been pretty safe in terms of giving us your reads this game. You've asked me for my reads, but never asked for Gaiden's. The activity regarding you and Gaiden when Verbs voted Gaiden looks like buddying. You haven't done much in the way of scumhunting.

You still haven't answered these points.

@Mod: Please don't replace Shii if you can help it.

Brian Skies · Post Post #891 (isolation #215) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:31 pm

So, a townlean means you don't need to hear their thoughts on the game? You just let them play safe and actively lurk? And it didn't seem your townlean on Gaiden was based on anything strong.

Brian Skies · Post Post #897 (isolation #216) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:57 pm

In post 894, notscience wrote:Go iso gaiden, shii, and phok. Tell me thats not distancing.

You mean buddying? Distancing implies you.

Brian Skies · Post Post #899 (isolation #217) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:54 pm

I have a bullet in my chest and you can't tell? It was pretty obvious what I was after the Verbs death. This is why I didn't want to go there. Occam's razor is your friend, Titus. Not WIFOM.

Brian Skies · Post Post #901 (isolation #218) » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:36 pm

You would've claimed yesterday and lynched me.

Anyhow, we should both read through the game again and compare thoughts. I don't really have the time today, so I'll post something tomorrow or the next day.

Brian Skies · Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:00 pm

I feel like the mod is insinuating something about me and Titus. It kind of hurts.

Brian Skies · Post Post #908 (isolation #220) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:56 am

In post 304, notscience wrote:@Brian, read everything the slot has done (just remember reads aren't necessarily the same)

And shii is meh

JKM's reason for subbing looks pro-town imo

You still need to explain this.

Once you do that, I can attack Shii. I've kind of disillusioned myself a bit. Titus isn't helping that much though.

Brian Skies · Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:18 am

I've developed a case against Shii, I just don't want to share it yet.

Brian Skies · Post Post #911 (isolation #222) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:50 pm

I'm asking you why you thought JKM was town at that point but not Shii.

Brian Skies · Post Post #917 (isolation #223) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:12 pm

@Shiidaji:

Okay, here are the issues I have with your play this game. You can explain it however you wish, just know that I may feel the need to push your lynch.

Day 1: You push a Verbs lynch over a quantification post. You claim Verbs was pushing suspicion onto M-M as scum even though he was voting for Titus. I told you he was just working through a problem Nacho created for him. However, when it comes around time to hammer your scumread, you aren't on the wagon (which was bad but not for the reasons notscience said it was). Instead, you say you would love to hammer but want more information out of the day. Why does this seem mostly like an attempt at towncred? Also, your argument against Verbs feels wrong.

Day 2: Bert is killed night 1. You immediately bring up notscience as a possible suspect and use Bert's death as a possible reason notscience could be scum. "notscience already has a townread from Bert, so why keep him around?" It looks like you're lining up notscience's lynch. You use the wagon argument against ns in 478. However, you were also not on the wagon. Using the "one scum is likely to be off the wagon" argument, both of you fit the bill.

Day 3:

In post 863, notscience wrote:For someone who was so adamant as scum, they spent a lot of time not voting me.
Hell, I was Shii's top scumread in D1+D2.
AT ONE POINT, SHII EVEN SAYS IF IT ISNT TITUS THEN IT IS ME Yet, D3 Shii doesn't try to lynch me, nor does Shii try late-D2. Instead, Shii sees the perfect opportunity to push Nacho out because Shii knows he won't win a lylo 1v1 against Nacho.

I know I'm being redundant here, but it really feels like you were lining up ns's lynch. Day 3 feels wrong to me because of the way you were only trying to scumread Nacho. It also feels like reaching. It feels extremely different from Day 2 where you were sure if it wasn't Titus, then it was notscience.

There are other problems I've noticed, but that involves some serious nitpicking. And I don't really feel like doing that at the moment.

Also, explain this post:

In post 627, Shiidaji wrote:
unvote

Brian Skies wrote:He was acting suspiciously at the beginning of Day 2.
Elaborate.

Verbs, check me or Brian. If Flammus isn't scum ns-scum or nacho-scum would become pretty evident after a while.

Brian Skies · Post Post #918 (isolation #224) » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:12 pm

@Shiidaji: Do you have any recent completed scum-games or town-games I can look through?

Brian Skies · Post Post #924 (isolation #225) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:19 pm

VOTE: notscience

@Titus: If you have something to say, say it now. If you want to vote Shii, let me know why. If you want us to try again at lylo (in which case there is only one of us but we may get another chance to address Shii), then feel free to not vote.

If you're wondering why I'm voting notscience, it's because of the extreme lengths I have to go to to read Shii as scum. I can see Shii as scum (but I can paint anyone as scum when looking at the right angles), but Shii has given me several town tells throughout the game.

Brian Skies · Post Post #925 (isolation #226) » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:12 am

Hahahahaha. I thought the deadline was today. That's cool. Shii needs to get in here then.

Brian Skies · Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:42 pm

VOTE: Shii

Get in here and respond to this thread or eat rope. I'm dead serious.

Brian Skies · Post Post #932 (isolation #228) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:17 pm

Kind of hard to reset with two cleared players.

Brian Skies · Post Post #933 (isolation #229) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:43 pm

Stop being lazy, Titus. Tell me who you think is scummier than the other and why. We're supposed to be bouncing stuff off of each other and you're not helping. Now we have 2 RL days left and it looks like we might end up with a replacement (which is no bueno).

Brian Skies · Post Post #937 (isolation #230) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:49 pm

Shii seems to show up at inopportune times. I don't know if this is just related to real life issues or what. But it's somewhat disturbing and this game needs to end. It would have been better to let mylo/lylo be between notscience and Nacho or Shii and Nacho.

Day 1 for notscience reads kind of scummy for me, but notscience gets super town on Day 3 compared to Shii.

Day 1 Shii is super town for me, but then I don't understand where Day 3 Shii came from (kind of feels like reaching). My reads have basically flipped. If you want to lynch Shii and end it, then it's fine. I know notscience really needs a win (thank me later).

So yeah, you can lynch Shii and end it. Unless you really think notscience was scum, then just let me know and I'll hammer.

Brian Skies · Post Post #939 (isolation #231) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:58 pm

I won't be around for the hammer tomorrow. I've disillusioned myself to the point where I'm fine with either lynch. And I do have the tendency to read way too much into things. If you want to lynch notscience, force a lylo. If you want to lynch Shii, hammer. But I have a heavy gameload and will no longer be paying attention to this thread tonight (early class tomorrow and stuff that overlaps deadline).

I feel like I've already given you the firepower you need against notscience on Day 3 and the firepower you need against Shii today. If you need more, I can find a way to get it to you tonight. There are things that aren't mentioned because I KNOW I'm reading too much into it. When I'm town, I can paint people as scum really easily and that worries me.

Brian Skies · Post Post #940 (isolation #232) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:24 pm

Also, if you want to know where I'm leaning, I'm leaning towards scum Shii.

Brian Skies · Post Post #942 (isolation #233) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:15 am

Vote: notscience

Brian Skies · Post Post #945 (isolation #234) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:10 am

In post 943, notscience wrote:Nice throwing the game guys.

Sorry

I thought Shii was scum and I even put in the work, but the way the game stalled, I just wanted the game to end.

Brian Skies · Post Post #954 (isolation #235) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:41 am

Oh, I completely misread your statement. I shouldn't have been around for that hammer, but I somehow had a chance to look at the thread. I thought that was you being definitive. I'll take blame for this one. I need to express more direction and aggression in pushing my scum-lynches.

Also, voting for someone that you aren't scum-reading in lylo is unacceptable. So yeah, I'm totally taking blame for this one.

Sorryyyyyy notscience. T_T