Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

Trust Fund · Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:39 pm

I'm game if we decide we like nick over rach.

Ill be here for the next few hours.

But I'd rather flash bro. He's lurking away the pressure.

Trust Fund · Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:40 pm

But voting from phone is messy. Ill be home in two hours instead.

Trust Fund · Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:21 pm

My vote is on rach. I'm going to bed.

If something OMG AMAZING happens, my sixth sense will probably wake me up. If not, not. Don't let this end in a NL. Plz.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:29 am

Bro, you should have gotten a notice that something about you has changed last night. This is important for clearing you, please confirm.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:30 am

Also, I'm gonna go dig through rach's reads post in a bit.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:31 am

In post 2479, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I'm gonna go dig through rach's reads post in a bit.

Because having expanded my meta search of her reads, she only scumreads a partner if she thinks they'll go down early.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:29 am

HEY BRO STOP IGNORING THIS YOU READ CAPSLOCK RITE

In post 2478, Trust Fund wrote:Bro, you should have gotten a notice that something about you has changed last night. This is important for clearing you, please confirm.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:45 am

You're breaking my heart, mr bro. You should have gotten something last night, and the fact you didn't means you're probably scum.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:52 am

In post 2577, BROseidon wrote:pedit: Cabd maybe you got blocked or redirected? I'll pm Bork asking if I should have received anything...

Your night role or lack thereof should have changes if you are town.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2574, Trust Fund wrote:You're breaking my heart, mr bro. You should have gotten something last night, and the fact you didn't means you're
probably
scum.

The fact that you're ignoring the chance of roleblock or redirect is kinda bad man.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:30 am

In post 2597, nickthename wrote:Oh, I just figured you were.

Note my lack of vote.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:14 am

In post 2610, Mac wrote:
In post 2603, BROseidon wrote:That nick vote into unvote is awkward as fuck, btw.
what is awkward about it?

He tried to setup a 1v1 of me/bro based upon my role claim without knowing exactly what it is, or accounting for the chance of a block/redirect/whatever. If bro is town, then it was essentially setting up TWO free mislynches.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:14 am

In post 2611, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2610, Mac wrote:
In post 2603, BROseidon wrote:That nick vote into unvote is awkward as fuck, btw.
what is awkward about it?
He tried to setup a 1v1 of me/bro based upon my role claim without knowing exactly what it is, or accounting for the chance of a block/redirect/whatever. If bro is town, then it was essentially setting up TWO free mislynches.

And then when it is pointed out to him that a RB or block is possible he immediately backs off.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:49 am

Also, I lied. So there's that~

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:54 am

In post 2627, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
Can we link Varsoon to this game after it's done to demonstrate how to properly execute a reaction test?

...Varsoon is in the FTL hydra, Bro.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:56 am

My now used up role was a oneshot night role remover that would ONLY work if the player was scum. It would strip their ability to NK, and any other power role they might have. Should my role target town, it will fail. The shot WAS used up, so it wasn't blocked. If it was re-directed obviously nobody is gonna claim their PR was removed, and the re-direction target was likely town anyways.

TL;DR bro leans town now.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am

And nick is maybe scum going for the double town lynch setup.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:59 am

Mac wrote:
In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
and what did you learn from that?

In post 2631, Trust Fund wrote:TL;DR bro leans town now.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:06 am

In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?

It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:08 am

In post 2644, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2642, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2639, Mac wrote:so tf, scum would not have been able to nightkill at all?
It strips my target of any and all powers so long as they're scum. So basically, if bro was scum, he'd lose any night role AND the ability to preform the factional kill.
Okay? So if he was vanilla AND lost the power to kill.. Why would he admit he lost the power to kill? He wouldn't.

Go look at how my lie played out. I worded it to suggest it would confirm him as town that he had something changed to vanilla. In other words, I was softing that the vanilla play would only work on town when it actually only works on scum.

And i highly doubt bro has read paradox prime. (And that fake cop claim won town the game)

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:09 am

In post 2645, Mac wrote:so bro could still be scum if he didn't make the factional kill (which he wouldn't have)

Hence "leans" town due to what I said. But even if we leave him alone and he makes it to endgame and was scum all along, he won't be able to kill when he's alone sooooooo if we get a whole bunch of nights with no deaths in what feels like massclaim time, lynch him.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:11 am

Mutley claimed vig unless there's any CCs, he's town.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:11 am

In post 2650, Mac wrote:
In post 2647, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 2645, Mac wrote:so bro could still be scum if he didn't make the factional kill (which he wouldn't have)
Hence "leans" town due to what I said. But even if we leave him alone and he makes it to endgame and was scum all along, he won't be able to kill when he's alone sooooooo if we get a whole bunch of nights with no deaths in what feels like massclaim time, lynch him.
oh wait hes completely stripped for good? that sounds better.

Yes.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:28 am

Maybe. Point is, if he is scum, I just chopped off his balls last night, so he won't have the ability to NK.

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:44 am

In post 2658, Faster Than Light wrote:I DID A FEW GOOD ONES RECENTLY I SWEAR.

I MEAN REAL GOOD ONES NOT JUST ONES THAT GET PEOPLE MODKILLED.

Get back to me when you manage to get mala to claim scum in a 3-man lylo.
(love you mala)

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:47 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5206602

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5210962

Trust Fund · Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:00 pm

In post 2663, Andrius wrote:With BRO somewhat confirmed I kinda want to make a bloc.

You treat him as semi-confirmed but you're still scumreading me... why?

Trust Fund · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:45 am

In post 1381, RachMarie wrote:1. Aj The Epic Probly town it feels like aj town rather than aj scum. but this one is a weaker town read.

2. Andrius Ehh the buddying with Nacho is normal for him, The reliance on Nacho vetting for him being town also normal, but his play just does not feel right here leaning scum, Andy can you provide me with some links to scum games you have completed thanks.

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy) I am definitely getting a towny read here.... Given more time will have a more solid read on them since I usually can catch Jiffy scum eventually, but in the town pile for now and mollie feels more like her towny self so yeah town.

4. BROseidon ehhh weak town read here mainly based on the stats, but he feels like hes genuinely scum hunting...

5. Desperado Confirmation Bias much there Des? Seriously dude have you even read any of my town games, weak scum read here. Seriously dude do your homework instead of just focusing on the low hanging fruit.

6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic) OMG head exploding here.... these two really need to get their hydra act together, nullish due to I see scummy MS and towny Var, need more congency from the slot tween these two to sort it out better.

7. Ghostlin Ehh feeling more like the town Ghosty here, but have not played as many games, could you provide me links of town and scum Ghosty? Thanks A couple of each is good enough.

8. Mac is Mac..... meh read atm but leaning to town... As he posts more will be able to solidify this.

9. mastin2 uhh WTF???? Brain is suffering from reading his ISO umm?? Need to reread it through.

10. Nachomamma8 What on earth Nacho What do you mean by revenge? ehh that being said its a tad early to rule him out as town I think.... Leaning Town... B n B could you further elaborate why you see him as scum at this point besides the connection with Andy?

11. thezmon221 Nachopappa--- Dude is probably town though not sure why the hostility? I really am a sweet chick However his tunneling looks more town tunneling than scum tunneling.

12. Malakittens nhammen--- Need more time to sort Mala out, she is very good at hiding herself when she is scum Mala... Still sorting....

13. nickthename--- Not much experience with this dude, though he did very well as scum in a skype mafia game and I did not realize he was scum even in LYLO so watching this dude carefully.... Leaning town but watching....

14. notscience umm duh... Do I really need to say on this one

15. RachMarie Sweet as sugar and doing her best to keep up with ya all as you add another 20 pages uggh...

16. Skullduggery Um Skull needs to post a LOT MORE... Nullish, might be scum by PoE but its too soon to figure that out until we get some flips PoE does not do a lot.

17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer) Prolific posters but most likely town.

18. TiphaineDeath Dude you tunnel way too much... Which is making me wonder since you were scum last time and doing this mega tunneling.... Could you provide me with links to a cple town and a cple scum games?

19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana) hmmm mostly cabd here need more syr. Not seeing the usual trolling and goofy much from Syr... So yeah very weak town read here need more from Syr...

20. Venmar Dude what you smokin? Not sure what I have done to you Do you have anything actual to your case besides the fact that I had not yet done reads? Leaning town however...

21. zMuffinMan Need to read some other games not played with this dude in completed games yet. Could you provide me with a cple town and a cple scum games thanks.

I know my reads suck there is obviously more scum out there than what I have, But at this point I have not yet been able to peg them yet. Part of this is due to the number of players I have here that I usually figure out they are scum after a few flips and them not being NKed at night (cough cough jiffy, nacho cough cough)...

I generally suck on D 1 and do better later in the game after I can put more of the pieces of the puzzle together.

I do trust Mollie and Jiffy though when they are town they are often right...

VOTE: Andy

As a reminder, I expect 1-2 buddies to be in her townreads list, and one of them to be strong town.

Trust Fund · Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:00 am

In post 2796, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1381, RachMarie wrote:20. Venmar Dude what you smokin? Not sure what I have done to you
BUDDY TELL DETECTED

Mmm, maybe.

Trust Fund · Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:02 am

Varsoon's read on me is shit, but having an incorrect read does not scum make. Syr owes me a "I care about you babe i'll see what I think" read up and synch.

Trust Fund · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:34 am

Mmkay. VOTE: nick

Trust Fund · Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:50 am

WOah woah woah woah hold the fuck up.

I read my role card wrong.

I thought it said including factional ability

It says EXCLUDING factional ability.

Fuck. Sorry guys.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:38 pm

Prod dodge, syr owes me a sync up/etc.

Activity tomorrow evening.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:23 pm

I lied. Content here real quick.

Varsoon's shit gambits are always easily fake-passed, dangerously close to modkill worthy, or fail to account for potential scum fake claims. Or all of those at once. Do I really need to get out the checklist again?

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:34 pm

In post 3249, zMuffinMan wrote: mala, muttley, trust fund

So either I'm as confirmed town as an un-cc'd vig as a game with mod-announced lack of SK/third party/multiball.... or you pulled these tiers out your ass.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:42 pm

In post 3261, zMuffinMan wrote:@trust fund,

i don't think muttley is "confirmed" because he's an "un-cc'd" vig.

I'd love to see an alternate theory from you on how two deaths happened.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:44 pm

^accidently hit submit.

I'd like to see an alternate theory from you on how two deaths happened last night in a game where the mod has confirmed that the only two factions in the game are town and ONE scumteam.

And then if you manage that tell me the scum motivation behind killing saki who might as well have had "free fucking mislynch here" painted on his forehead.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:51 pm

In post 3255, Faster Than Light wrote:I guess the true worst scenario is that I get NK'd and Mala flips town. Hm.

-V

If you're town, which I'm sort of having to grudgingly admit seems to be the case, short of you claiming an investigative or protective role, the odds of you getting a bad case of the dead tonight are about 100 to 1. You have "free lategame mislynch or lylo scapegoat" sticky noted to your back, man.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:55 pm

In post 3272, zMuffinMan wrote:i'm not ruling out the possibility that muttley is extremely stupid and claiming the kill when he didn't actually kill saki (this was my first thought about it, because saki was a stupid kill either way after the rm flip)

No. If muttley is acting stupid... he's faking it. The kill perfectly fits what my model of town muttly thinks he would do.

But either way, you apparently scumread me as much as him. I'm telling you that's shit and he needs to be in your town until cop guilty says otherwise pile.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:13 pm

In post 3278, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:mutley if you nked ftl I am pretty sure you would be given another pass. just saying

alol

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:35 pm

In post 3292, Faster Than Light wrote:a lynch on Nick only provides us with Nick's Alignment. That's it.

This is probably the most untrue thing you've said to date.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:17 pm

Sorry mollie, I was busy with andy kicking nacho's ass in Vi's mini theme.

I'm back now though! With fresh new meta!

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:04 pm

Man, thinking there might be a scum PGO. That's almost as bad as thinking there'd be a scum vig in a game with no third party factions confirmed by the mod before the start of the game.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:11 pm

In post 3506, zMuffinMan wrote:i can see the endgame now.

notscience, mutley and lynchbait at lylo.

it makes me sad thinking about it because it's a very real possibility.

If scum manages to play well enough to keep an IC around till lylo, ns or not, I think they deserve the win for being that good.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:11 pm

And I still want to know why you think scum has a vig.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:15 pm

In post 3516, Faster Than Light wrote:
In post 3456, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 3455, Faster Than Light wrote:@Ghostlin: Took a nap and came back and now you're on the court. You wanna jam with me?
Also, now that I'm here and you're here, wanna know anything?
Yes and Yes, and I'll try to make the question not sound trite. Will your gambit still work even with a Nick lynch? In other words, does it work in reverse?

Yeah, it should still work with a Nick lynch, but I made it with Mala's flip and the Nick/Mala relationship in mind.

If your gambit is passive instead of active, then you can have my blessings, not that it's worth much. (Aka no more derailing the nick lynch kthnx)

Trust Fund · Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:23 am

Global V/LA until late sunday night PST (GMT -8)

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:04 pm

In post 3753, Ghostlin wrote:Well, we could start with Mac, who I've noticed is posting elsewhere but not here.

I have ~reasons~ for mac-town as of today, fwiw.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:05 pm

In post 3755, BROseidon wrote:TF are you actually going to play the game or are you going to keep cruising?

Probably cruise until syr gets his head back into the game. I'll just be taking potshots and reads as I roll.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:04 pm

I keep looking at this thread, see the endless circle of muffin/bro/FTL with side helpings of whoever the fuck else, and get really dis-interested. (Muffin, you feel like wisdom does, utterly motivation draining; varsoon is just being his usual shitgambits self; bro is.... just repeating himself)

Syr all but abandoning me really doesn't help.

So I'm ignoring all three of your pissing matches.

Hey nacho, hey mac, you're both feeling rather dull at the moment, apathetic even. So am I. Let's have some wonderful thread orgies or something, 'cuz I really would like you two to be town so I have somebody to follow.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:11 pm

Yeah it happened when I stopped giving a fuck about you three, and syr ditched me.
But mostly the first one.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:12 pm

I'm really regretting not using my oneshot role to confirm venmar as PGO. That way we'd either have confirmed liar; or i'd be dead and he'd be confirmed town.

And I wouldn't have to deal with this shit.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:15 pm

Sure it makes sense.

I target venmar. If he's telling the truth, I die, he's confirmed PGO.

If I target him and I don't die, he lied.

Moot point because it was oneshot and I used it on bro though.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:17 pm

I'd kill to have a hider role right now TBQH. Or if andy is softing what I think he's softing, i'd love to have that too.

Literally the only reason I'm back in the game right now of any strength is because of what happened last night. It made me care enough to get in here and post this musings and shit. I'll probably try getting back into the game tomorrow, but I just want you three knowing i'll be skipping at least half your shit.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:23 pm

To clarify, tomorrow is a day off so I'll probably be motivated to catch up then. I'm just in one of those slumps.

In post 3831, Trust Fund wrote:I'll probably try getting back into the game tomorrow, but I just want you three knowing i'll be skipping at least half your shit.

Nah varsoon, you're fucking annoying as shit, but you're a townread. I'd rather not you go suiciding on venmar. Especially with mastin's posts looming around.

My only major non-universal-already reads from last night:

Venmar..... Wish I had just used my role to test him and died to confirm him as town or whatever. Was strong town, now not so much, paranoia settling in.

(Should be policy before lylo)

Mastin: I personally lead a wagon against him early, but my meta on him says town anyways

Mala: Scum earlier, but lesser so now in light of nickflip

Bro: His reaction to my little reaction test came off decently, but we'll see

FTL: Annoying, but that slot is town regardless.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:23 pm

Oh, and mac towntowntown.

Forgot that one.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:24 pm

In post 3833, zMuffinMan wrote:@trust fund,

well, that's disappointing, because i value your opinion.

^^^ Call me a doubter because of vvv

In post 3825, zMuffinMan wrote:ok, i'll get it up with you, ftl

Unvote
Vote: Trust Fund

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:26 pm

In post 3838, Faster Than Light wrote:
In post 3836, Trust Fund wrote:Oh, and mac towntowntown.

Forgot that one.
Elaborate.

I will, but later. You'll see why. Let him get in here first.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:48 pm

Aj The Epic Aug 12, 10:41am Sep 08, 04:27pm 3 days 10 hours 80

notscience Aug 12, 10:34am Sep 08, 02:12pm 3 days 12 hours 229

Mac Aug 12, 01:53pm Sep 06, 05:35am 5 days 21 hours 94

These three getting in here would help.

Half tempted to just sheep fferygif's reads list and update it only for claimed roles etc.

(Andy if you find us a role switcher i'm game, send away)

Trust Fund · Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:10 pm

This is me posting because I need to appease bork while syr and I try to figure out what the hell we're gonna do.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:30 pm

Apathy is gone. Time to stop being fucking worthless.

Mini walls inbound.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:19 pm

Get better soon, andy. Whatever's going on, it's not worth getting drunk and wrecking yourself.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:28 pm

In no particular order within categories.

Town:

8. Mac (Neighborhood interactions)
9. mastin2 (Actions, townposting)
6. Faster Than Light (As nacho said last game, you can't fake this level of crazy bad gambiting)
14. notscience, Midori Uzuki (innocent child, duh)
19. Trust Fund (Because it's me)
21. zMuffinMan (Day one interactions with Rach, etc)
16. Mutleyddmc (Un CC'd vig in a confirmed single scum faction game)

Town reads find them town:

20. Venmar (per mastin)

Lean null-town:

2. Andrius (If he's softing what I think he's softing, needs to be confirmed before lylo)

Null:

4. BROseidon (Reaction to my little test was good, but ffery's reads are a thing I trust)
10. Nachomamma8 (Not nearly enough action, but I'm guilty of that too, and ffery townread 'em)

To Sort:

1. Aj The Epic (Need to ISO)
5. Desperado (Factor in new castle meta data of scumgame)
7. Ghostlin (I really should have a read here)
12. Malakittens (was leaning town, sunk)
18. TiphaineDeath (need to re-evaluate)

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:29 pm

(For the record, syr pretty much ditched me, so it's all cabd right now. If he comes back, i'm sure he'll spam some gifs to let you all know.)

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:34 pm

In post 2461, Sound of Silence wrote:
Town
FTL

notscience

BnB

Venmar

Trust Fund

TD
Ghostlin
Aj The Epic
zMuffinMan

Bert/znon/Saki

Desperado

nickthename

Rach

Null
Andrius (fery have him as town I think)
Nachomamma (I think fery have him as leaning town)
mastin2
Mac

Scum
nhammen/Mala
BROseidon
skull/mutley

Here's ffery-gif's last reads list. She was much more sure about Bro than Mala.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:38 pm

BnB's reads are fragmented everywhere, but I'll try to piece them together.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:53 pm

Good thing that's not what I'm doing, muffin.

I always compare my reads to ffery's. Especially when her alignment in confirmed. I've hydra'd with her several times, I know her strengths and weaknesses at reading players (she's good at nacho, she's bad at rach, for example)

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:08 pm

To sort means I know exactly what I need to do to sort them and or i'm thinking they're scum but need to confirm before I go for blood. Nulls, otoh, I don't know what I'm going to do with them yet. but I don't see myself voting my nulls today.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:15 pm

Past 2AM. I'll sort jiffymollie's reads tomorrow.

Curse you two for not making another consolidated reads list.

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:02 am

In post 4030, borkjerfkin wrote:
Waynegg replaces Mutleyddmc.

Hi wayne. We may not be the greatest of friends, but I'm keeping our prior issues out of the game. Let's kick some scum ass, mmkay? You replaced into a town slot, and I'm town, so instead of butting heads, let's headbutt some scumfucks off the cliff.

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:02 am

In post 4036, notscience wrote:Hey Andrius

If you think TF is scumz why bother defend the person they're after

Yeah that struck me as odd too. That's not usually how a player usually talks to their number one scum suspect.

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:04 am

Wayne, pretty sure those aren't cop claims, they're clears for other reasons. Let's not get the claims out quite yet if players aren't ready unless you think you've got a "guyinfreezer is soooo PR" kind of vibe going on again.

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:33 am

In post 4042, waynegg wrote:
In post 4039, Trust Fund wrote:Wayne, pretty sure those aren't cop claims, they're clears for other reasons. Let's not get the claims out quite yet if players aren't ready unless you think you've got a "guyinfreezer is soooo PR" kind of vibe going on again.
It's not that. Mastin blatantly claimed Cop and then cleared Venrob. There was no reading between the lines. Muttley actually had 2 shots instead of the one he claimed and shot AJ last night. AJ is still alive, hence the bulletproof.

And yeah, lets kick scum butt and perhaps work on the friend thing in the process.

Venrob isn't in the game, wayne. Who do you mean?

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:44 pm

Waynegg/Muttly slot is close to confirmed town. I've gone over this.

Trust Fund · Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:47 pm

In post 4067, Faster Than Light wrote:
In post 2, borkjerfkin wrote:
This game contains two factions, the
Nisan Alliance (Town)
, and the
Solaris Empire (Mafia).

@TF: Then I want to know the purpose behind his recent line of questioning and the reveal.

It's waynegg. I don't bother trying to figure out what he's doing. Whatever the fuck he's doing, we'll know it by the end of today. He's all but confirmed town, so I'm jsut going to let him do his thing. It worked out in xenoblade.

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:37 pm

Hey dopog, venmar claimed miller before he left. Confirm that it's true plz kthnx.

Trust Fund · Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:51 am

This is an easy decision, really.

Mac, was your neighborizing me a passive or an active choice?

Trust Fund · Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:06 am

Mala, all your reads in one post when you get back from work please?

Nobody hammer until then, at the very least.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:24 pm

So the people mastin mentioned as confirmed town are officially confirmed town now, if I read that correctly. Probably three more to go.

Will get confirmation from bork that I'm reading the flip correctly. If so, hello there, confirmed townblock.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:29 pm

Confirmed with bork. Mastin's confirmed town group is confirmed town.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:32 pm

Antihero and TD confirmed for town, from mastin ISO.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:57 pm

Mod-confirmed to be town:

14. notscience, Midori Uzuki

8. Mac

18. TiphaineDeath

20. antihero

Town:
16. waynegg (vig in an assured single scumteam game)
19. Trust Fund (my role PM)
21. zMuffinMan (pushes over the past three days but mostly D1)
6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon has a hard time forcing this type of crazy as scum IMO)

Leftovers (3 scum be here)
1. Aj The Epic
2. Andrius
4. BROseidon
5. Desperado
7. Ghostlin
10. Nachomamma8

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:00 pm

And if andy is softing what he seems to have been softing, he can take that list down further.

P-edit: Waynegg, look at mastin's flip. They were masons with their own power roles they could share results on.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:03 pm

Also, that's not the actual role he has obviously. Bork is using flavor names for normal power roles. Like mine is called "purifier" but it's a one-shot vanillize that fails should it hit town.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:07 pm

In post 4273, waynegg wrote:Mason also doesn't make them both town.

This is dumb and you should feel bad for saying this wayne. Masons means CONFIRMED TOWN. If they weren't confirmed it would be called neighbors, like it was in Xenoblade.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:16 pm

You want out today instead of later, andy? You sure?

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:18 pm

In post 4282, Andrius wrote:Or we just lynch Nacho or BRO and call it good for the day.

Given my shot at BRO means that if he has a PR it's gone in a poof of smoke aaaaand you can read nacho much better than I can.

VOTE: nacho if you're town you need to be obvtown now.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:19 pm

I'm listening, andy. Go on and give us the long form birth certificate.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:30 pm

And andy, that's good actually. By "only works on town" you mean that if scum hammers you, you won't venge them?

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:45 pm

In post 4299, Antihero wrote:notscience has been confirmed town since day 1 and he's still alive?

what the...?

Welcome to notscience. He's been playing this in a very backseat way, and scum obviously don't think of him as a threat.

Trust Fund · Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:48 pm

That's three abilities that have town-only conditions. Interesting setup; borkie.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:37 am

I fully claimed oneshot vanillizer, and mac has been cop cleared, varsoon.....

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:57 am

Hmmm.... I smell a mass claim today given that all the town reads have claimed and most scum suspects have yet to.....

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:33 am

By the way varsoon you should have checked BRO last night, because then you'd have had data on both me AND him. But whatever. If bro is scum, he's lower priority, since if he had a PR it's byebye.

Let me organize all the claims n shit.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:34 am

In post 4366, Faster Than Light wrote:I wanted evidence to pin on TF. If TF was lying about having a PR, it'd be damning.

Also this is shit, bud. You're playing a PR trying to make what you want to be true to be true. Not what does the best for town.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:05 am

Consiter nacho havin four votes his extra gift of motivation to tell us who to lynch, since he's been pasive the past few days. If he's town, it's go time.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:30 am

Maybe, andy. I think that the angle of rach being able to fuck with those if she isn't lynched might be a counter. We'll see.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:07 pm

First this:

In post 2627, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2623, Trust Fund wrote:Also, I lied. So there's that~
Can we link Varsoon to this game after it's done to demonstrate how to properly execute a reaction test?

And now the story changes to this?

In post 4433, BROseidon wrote:
In post 4402, Andrius wrote:I don't like the bro tie to tf
You mean that awkward as reaction test Cabd pulled on me that literally did nothing?

Yeah, real "tie" there...

Trust Fund · Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:43 pm

Bork, I got jury duty so as the primary head of Trust Fund, we'll be VLA for the next week and a half or so. I'll post some, but very limited.

Also nacho you owe us like two cases from.... three days ago, and they're two days overdue. Pay your fine, or plead an exception, because otherwise I'm sending your account to collections.

Trust Fund · Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:14 pm

In post 4494, Nachomamma8 wrote:actually i might be a poor lynch today and might not have to effort away quite yet

your role is a vanillaizer that only works on scum
means that it's hard as hell to use and mostly useless unless the scumteam is stacked
there's no reason to limit varsoon's vanilla cop unless the scumteam is similarly stacked with PRs

You still have yet to explain where you're going with this thought.

Trust Fund · Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:35 pm

UNVOTE:

Make sweet town love with the rest of the player list, or that goes back, nacho.

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:38 am

I was wondering how long it would take for scum to try and push lynches in the "not confirmed town but not currently the focus" list. Guess that my answer, eh?

Trust Fund · Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:56 am

In post 4608, Nachomamma8 wrote:Cabd, where the hell are you? I've prodded you plenty of times to talk about BRO's meta but you haven't even taken a shot at it yet.

~ongoing game ethics issues go here~

Also I'm on lunch break so about to go radio silent again, jury duty till next weekend, see my VLA notice.

If you wanna play old games metadiving, it will have to wait tilll... I can pencil you in tomorrow evening around 7PM pacific time. Would you like an appointment?

Trust Fund · Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:33 am

VOTE: AJ the Epic

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:34 pm

In post 4269, Trust Fund wrote:Mod-confirmed to be town:

14. notscience, Midori Uzuki

8. Mac

18. TiphaineDeath

20. antihero

Town:
16. waynegg (vig in an assured single scumteam game)
19. Trust Fund (my role PM)

21. zMuffinMan (pushes over the past three days but mostly D1)

6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon has a hard time forcing this type of crazy as scum IMO)

Leftovers (3 scum be here)

1. Aj The Epic

2. Andrius
4. BROseidon
5. Desperado
7. Ghostlin
10. Nachomamma8

Second request for massclaim.

I think the game is solved if the mason is among the "three scum here" pile. And even if it isn't, we're in really good territory.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:36 pm

Two left probably. Anyone with more setup spec care to disagree that it's probably 4(1) v 16?

Thinking we're at 2 v 10 right now.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:05 pm

Already claimed, oneshot vanillizer that only works if it hits scum, shot is used up regardless.

Targeted Bro N1.

Character name is Billy Lee Black

Flavored ability name is Purifier of the Nisan Alliance

Popcorn bro anyways, no getting out of this one man

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:22 pm

Oi. Why are we claiming roles and not full flavor? I mean yeah fakeclaims are a thing but I see no reason NOT to be claiming that shit right now. Remember that flips are partially destroying role info.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:26 pm

In post 4699, BROseidon wrote: Let me look at that while this game of LoL loads...

Korea kicked ass tonight, man, sucks to be china right now.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:00 pm

Shit tier annie player, at your service.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:01 pm

In post 4706, Andrius wrote: you know
I might be able to help confirm the existence of TF's role

The witness may begin testimony.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:06 pm

In post 4712, Andrius wrote:no uh
since my role is PASSIVE
bork was like IN MY PM: THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN DEACTIVATE THIS ABILITY. YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED IF THIS HAPPENS.

so I can sorta confirm the role?

In post 4696, Trust Fund wrote:oneshot vanillizer that
only works if it hits scum
, shot is used up regardless.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:12 pm

VOTE: Andy

I'll add you once you are ded.

If you're town, then you just got fucked over by the setup or something bud.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:27 pm

Andy you're drunk go sleep. Don't fuck up your LoL KDR

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:32 pm

In post 4721, Nachomamma8 wrote:tf why not lynch bro

I don't see him claiming scum. Wanna tell me why I should?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:42 pm

In post 4724, Andrius wrote:yeh no
you're coming with me

But if nacho is scum he won't come with you?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:45 pm

Or would the witness like to revoke prior testimony?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:52 pm

He's calling you a chicken for not wanting to lynch him with your vote as the hammer, nacho.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:54 pm

I mean I don't mind bro if you can give me GOOD reasons, because as syr mentioned on gtalk, the other wagon yesterday being against you being scum traitor doesn't clear you one iota, nacho.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:37 am

In post 4750, Faster Than Light wrote:
In post 4748, Faster Than Light wrote:maybe TF + Andy is the scum

yes that look possible from the back-and-forth just the page before

also it is cool that the scum love shooting VTs isnt that great
This.
I mentioned this before.
Maybe people will listen to me now?

Still think that TF is scum.

-V

Oh this ought to be good. Do tell me how my interactions with andrius are scum on scum. ANd how AJ's interactions with me yesterday were scum v scum. I'll wait.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:47 am

Leftovers (2 scum be here)
2. Andrius
4. BROseidon
5. Desperado
7. Ghostlin
10. Nachomamma8

But really we need to finish massclaim first. Mason needs to step forward, we need character names and such from everybody, etc.

I'm waiting to see what exactly nacho has on BRO before I go down that path. I think ghostlin is lowest on my lynch order TBQH.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:09 am

In post 4757, waynegg wrote:18. TiphaneDeath

Cop innocent, confirmed town.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:17 pm

I know you're shit at reading me and stuff, but can you at least keep your story straight?

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:17 pm

In post 4748, Faster Than Light wrote:maybe TF + Andy is the scum

yes that look possible from the back-and-forth just the page before

also it is cool that the scum love shooting VTs isnt that great

^Like right here on the same fucking page you JUST SAID Andy and I are the remaining team.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:18 pm

In post 4763, Faster Than Light wrote:In fact, wouldn't it be more compelling if you played in such a way that your interactions made you look town rather than scum?

Welcome to the basic definition of busing. Do you have any other amazing revelations to share with the class?

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:25 pm

In post 8, Cabd wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=28438

Hard defended both partners until bussing would put me in "confotown" status. We won.

I don't bus until I have to.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:30 pm

In post 4769, waynegg wrote:...which can be as early as D1, right?

Hmmm... yeah I could bus day one if I thought the player was gonna die that early. I did once, actually. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28000

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:39 pm

lol, that was syr being syr. I was in court at the time. Hang on, i'll put him on the phone.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:46 pm

In post 4776, notscience wrote:VOTE: Trust Fund

In case anyone wondered why scum was leaving the inno child alive, here's why.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:49 pm

I can't believe Cabd bothered me with this nonsense. Allow me to clear some shit up for you.

notscience and Varsoon are both dipshits. I've said this since Day 1. Well,

on

Day 1.

Andy and Nacho are both scum. Funny, I seem to recall saying that Day 1 too.

waynegg's a clownfuck. Analyzing my gifs for content? Really? You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

Trust Fund · Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:36 pm

In post 4781, waynegg wrote:C'mon Syr. I coulda sworn I saw you saying the gifs you chose hold meaning and that they aren't random. Everyone has a playstyle.

They do hold meaning.

I told you to be ashamed of yourself because you're basically ignoring the painting to ask about the artist's grandfather.

Trust Fund · Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:09 pm

In post 4790, Faster Than Light wrote:maybe Metal Sonic and I have different reads

You quoted him and said yeah you're probably right. Now you disown Sonic's reads?

Also my entire response to the rest is: see syr's post.

Muffin was really obviously scum mason hunting. Speaking of other mason still needs to step forward.

Trust Fund · Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 4792, Faster Than Light wrote:On the real, why does the other Mason need to step forth?

POE. If the mason is who I think it is, we can lynch all the unknowns including you and I and still autowin.

Trust Fund · Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 4794, Faster Than Light wrote:Sounds like a scum powerplay.

You really are fucking stupid, aren't you.

Like straight up the only reason I'm still in this game is out of respect to Borkie.

Notsci is such a bad player that he's alive on day five as an innocent fucking child, and you're here spouting incoherent shit at me. Waynegg is being on his best behavior this game so he's cool, but seriously, I'm just sitting here waiting for the logical people to come back so I can feel sane again.

10 v 2

3-4 unconfirmed players, if the mason is who I think it is.

You just fucking lynch down the list, and it's GG.

Let's say worst case scenario, 4 unconfirmed, we hit town twice in a row.

10 v 2
becomes 8 v 2
becomes 6 v 2
becomes 5 v 1
becomes 4 v 0

Like I legitimately don't see how you don't get this.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:37 am

In post 4808, Nachomamma8 wrote:i'm gonna continue to coast because i'm confirmed town

I laughed. Do tell me how exactly you intend to prove this.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:48 pm

Wow. I'm reading AJ"s ISO. Some interesting stuff in there. He can't keep his scumreads straight. When I wake up I want to do some color coding of his posts, I have an idea.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:58 pm

As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.

Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.

Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:12 am

One steaming pile of day one VCA is coming up.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:29 pm

Spoiler: Day 1

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:30 pm

In post 4917, Trust Fund wrote:Vote Count 1.13

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Saki, Aj the Epic, Waynegg)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[3] Waynegg (Ghostlin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] nickthename (mastin2)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[2] Not Voting (BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac)

Vote Count 1.14

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj the Epic, Waynegg, Nachomamma8)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[2] Waynegg (Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, BeautyAndTheBeast)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] Saki (Saki)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

These two vote counts make FTL-scum veeeeery unlikely. I don't see varsoon-scum piling onto Andy right after two others hop on, regardless of andy's actual alignment.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:27 pm

In post 4894, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 4893, BROseidon wrote:And Anti and TF both come into consideration at the same time.

"Why the actual fuck would you not lynch me WAY before the un-counter-claimed cop?" is my response to this since you were curious, nacho.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:28 pm

[quote="In post 4880, Nachomamma8

In post 4832, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 4808, Nachomamma8 wrote:i'm gonna continue to coast because i'm confirmed town
I laughed. Do tell me how exactly you intend to prove this.

Well I can't go about doing this until people actually start talking to me. What do you think AJ's role enabled?[/quote]

Unless this is a "Hi guys I got a PR activated because we lynched AJ's ass into the ground" statement, then... it's a big steaming pile of "who knows"?

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:44 pm

In post 749, Malakittens wrote:For what it's worth I see town-Mollie on Page 13.

Wow, okay..

VOTE: Faster than the light

Holy fucking scum-tell Batman.

Someone REALLY cares about how they look right now.

This also points to FTL town.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:48 pm

In post 1381, RachMarie wrote:
1. Aj The Epic Probly town it feels like aj town rather than aj scum. but this one is a weaker town read.

2. Andrius Ehh the buddying with Nacho is normal for him, The reliance on Nacho vetting for him being town also normal, but his play just does not feel right here leaning scum, Andy can you provide me with some links to scum games you have completed thanks.

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy) I am definitely getting a towny read here.... Given more time will have a more solid read on them since I usually can catch Jiffy scum eventually, but in the town pile for now and mollie feels more like her towny self so yeah town.

4. BROseidon ehhh weak town read here mainly based on the stats, but he feels like hes genuinely scum hunting...

5. Desperado Confirmation Bias much there Des? Seriously dude have you even read any of my town games, weak scum read here. Seriously dude do your homework instead of just focusing on the low hanging fruit.

6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic) OMG head exploding here.... these two really need to get their hydra act together, nullish due to I see scummy MS and towny Var, need more congency from the slot tween these two to sort it out better.

7. Ghostlin Ehh feeling more like the town Ghosty here, but have not played as many games, could you provide me links of town and scum Ghosty? Thanks A couple of each is good enough.

8. Mac is Mac..... meh read atm but leaning to town... As he posts more will be able to solidify this.

9. mastin2 uhh WTF???? Brain is suffering from reading his ISO umm?? Need to reread it through.

10. Nachomamma8 What on earth Nacho What do you mean by revenge? ehh that being said its a tad early to rule him out as town I think.... Leaning Town... B n B could you further elaborate why you see him as scum at this point besides the connection with Andy?

11. thezmon221 Nachopappa--- Dude is probably town though not sure why the hostility? I really am a sweet chick However his tunneling looks more town tunneling than scum tunneling.

12. Malakittens nhammen--- Need more time to sort Mala out, she is very good at hiding herself when she is scum Mala... Still sorting....

13. nickthename--- Not much experience with this dude, though he did very well as scum in a skype mafia game and I did not realize he was scum even in LYLO so watching this dude carefully.... Leaning town but watching....

14. notscience umm duh... Do I really need to say on this one

15. RachMarie Sweet as sugar and doing her best to keep up with ya all as you add another 20 pages uggh...

16. Skullduggery Um Skull needs to post a LOT MORE... Nullish, might be scum by PoE but its too soon to figure that out until we get some flips PoE does not do a lot.

17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer) Prolific posters but most likely town.

18. TiphaineDeath Dude you tunnel way too much... Which is making me wonder since you were scum last time and doing this mega tunneling.... Could you provide me with links to a cple town and a cple scum games?

19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana) hmmm mostly cabd here need more syr. Not seeing the usual trolling and goofy much from Syr... So yeah very weak town read here need more from Syr...

20. Venmar Dude what you smokin? Not sure what I have done to you Do you have anything actual to your case besides the fact that I had not yet done reads? Leaning town however...

21. zMuffinMan Need to read some other games not played with this dude in completed games yet. Could you provide me with a cple town and a cple scum games thanks.

I know my reads suck there is obviously more scum out there than what I have, But at this point I have not yet been able to peg them yet. Part of this is due to the number of players I have here that I usually figure out they are scum after a few flips and them not being NKed at night (cough cough jiffy, nacho cough cough)...

I generally suck on D 1 and do better later in the game after I can put more of the pieces of the puzzle together.

I do trust Mollie and Jiffy though when they are town they are often right...

VOTE: Andy

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:48 pm

Derp mala should be red not green there, my bad.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:50 pm

1. Aj The Epic Probly town it feels like aj town rather than aj scum. but this one is a weaker town read.
12. Malakittens nhammen--- Need more time to sort Mala out, she is very good at hiding herself when she is scum Mala... Still sorting....

This reads post makes me think ANdy is not likely scum.

We should be lynching within {Nacho, Desp, Bro} today so the people in that list really need to be telling us why it should be one of the other two and not themselves.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:51 pm

In post 4928, BROseidon wrote:So the fact that Mala pushed FTL early points to town, but the fact that 2/3 of scum have pushed me point to me town?

#logic

I know both heads of the hydra are more nuanced than that.

If you mean this hydra, then stop burden of profeceny-ing shit up. It's all cabd except when syr bitches at people he dislikes.

Either way, tell me why FTL is more likely scum (or even odds with) than the list of three I posted about above.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:56 pm

You are probably the last priority of the three, Bro, FWIW. Mostly because if you are scum your PR is ded.

However, nacho seems to be hinting that he got something out of AJ's death and i'd like him to stop being all cryptic and come out of the closet. It's not like we didn't know that his girlfriend was fake already.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 4935, waynegg wrote:
In post 4865, Trust Fund wrote:As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.

Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.

Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.
Mastered...nah. I have a firm handle on it though. I've been super busy the last couple of days. Did anybody bite on the flimsy push I made on you without voting you? Hat should probably be looked at too!

Just varsoon/MS and they've been confobiasing the shit out me since day one and VCA says they're probs town so meh.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:05 pm

In post 4938, waynegg wrote:
In post 4917, Trust Fund wrote:
Spoiler: Day 1
Vote Count
1.2

[8]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
,
zMuffinMan
,
nickthename
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Mac
,
Ghostlin
, Faster Than Light,
Trust Fund
)
[2]
notscience
(
Aj the Epic
,
notscience
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Mac
(
TiphaineDeath
)
[1] Nachomamma8 (
Saki
)

[8] Not Voting (Andrius, BROseidon, Desperado,
mastin2
, Nachomamma8,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
,
Waynegg
)

Vote Count
1.3

[6]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
,
zMuffinMan
,
Mac
,
Ghostlin
, Faster Than Light,
Trust Fund
)
[2]
Mac
(
TiphaineDeath
,
nickthename
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1] Faster Than Light (
Malakittens
)
[1] Nachomamma8 (
Saki
)
[1]
nickthename
(
Aj the Epic
)
[1]
notscience
(
notscience
)

[8] Not Voting (Andrius, BROseidon, Desperado,
mastin2
, Nachomamma8,
RachMarie
,
Waynegg
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)

Vote Count
1.4

[5]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
,
zMuffinMan
,
Mac
,
Ghostlin
, Faster Than Light)
[2] Faster Than Light (
Malakittens
,
Saki
)
[2]
Mac
(
TiphaineDeath
,
nickthename
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
nickthename
(
Aj the Epic
)
[1]
notscience
(
notscience
)
[1]
Antihero
(Nachomamma8)
[1]
zMuffinMan
(
mastin2
)

[7] Not Voting (Andrius, BROseidon, Desperado,
RachMarie
,
Waynegg
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Trust Fund
)

Vote Count
1.5

[3]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado)
[2] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
, Nachomamma8)
[2] Faster Than Light (
Saki
,
Malakittens
)
[2]
Mac
(
TiphaineDeath
,
nickthename
)
[2]
mastin2
(
Antihero
,
Trust Fund

[2]
nickthename
(
Aj the Epic
,
mastin2
)
[1]
notscience
(
notscience
)
[1]
Sound of Silence
(BROseidon)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Ghostlin
)

[5] Not Voting (
RachMarie
,
Waynegg
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Mac
, Faster Than Light)

Vote Count
1.6

[5] Faster Than Light (
Saki
,
Malakittens
,
Waynegg
,
TiphaineDeath
,
nickthename
)
[4]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light)
[3]
mastin2
(
Antihero
,
Trust Fund
, BROseidon)
[3]
nickthename
(
Aj the Epic
,
mastin2
,
notscience
)
[2]
Malakittens
(Nachomamma8,
Ghostlin
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1] Nachomamma8 (
BeautyAndTheBeast
)

[2] Not Voting (
RachMarie
,
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.7

[5]
mastin2
(
Antihero
,
Trust Fund
, BROseidon,
nickthename
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light, Nachomamma8)
[4]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Saki
)
[2] Faster Than Light (
Malakittens
,
Waynegg
)
[2]
Malakittens
(
Ghostlin
,
Aj the Epic
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)

[2] Not Voting (
RachMarie
,
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.8

[6]
mastin2
(
Antihero
,
Trust Fund
, BROseidon,
nickthename
,
TiphaineDeath
,
Waynegg
)
[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light, Nachomamma8)
[3]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
,
Saki
)
[2] Andrius (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Sound of Silence
)
[2]
Malakittens
(
Ghostlin
,
Aj the Epic
)
[1] Faster Than Light (
Waynegg
)

[2] Not Voting (
RachMarie
,
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.9

[5] Andrius (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Sound of Silence
,
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
)
[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light, Nachomamma8)
[4]
mastin2
(
Antihero
, BROseidon,
nickthename
,
Waynegg
)
[2]
Malakittens
(
Ghostlin
,
Aj the Epic
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Saki
)
[2]
Trust Fund
(
TiphaineDeath
,
Mac
)

[1] Not Voting (
RachMarie
)

Vote Count
1.10

[6] Andrius (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Sound of Silence
,
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
)
[6]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light,
Saki
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[4]
mastin2
(
Antihero
, BROseidon,
nickthename
,
Waynegg
)
[2]
Malakittens
(
Ghostlin
,
Aj the Epic
)
[1]
nickthename
(
mastin2
)
[1]
Trust Fund
(
Mac
)

[1] Not Voting (Nachomamma8)

Vote Count
1.11

[7] Andrius (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Sound of Silence
,
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
,
Mac
)
[7]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado, Faster Than Light,
Saki
,
TiphaineDeath
,
Aj the Epic
)
[4]
mastin2
(
Antihero
, BROseidon,
nickthename
,
Waynegg
)
[2]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
, Nachomamma8)
[1]
nickthename
(
mastin2
)

Vote Count
1.12

[6] Andrius (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
,
Mac
)
[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Saki
,
Aj the Epic
)
[3]
mastin2
(
Antihero
, BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[3]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
, Nachomamma8,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
, Faster Than Light)

[2] Not Voting (
Waynegg
,
Sound of Silence
)

Vote Count
1.13

[6]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Saki
,
Aj the Epic
,
Waynegg
)
[5] Andrius (
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light)
[3]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
, Nachomamma8,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
nickthename
(
mastin2
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[2] Not Voting (
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.14

[6]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
,
Waynegg
, Nachomamma8)
[5] Andrius (
notscience
,
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[2]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Saki
(
Saki
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.15

[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8)
[4] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light)
[3]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
,
TiphaineDeath
,
Saki
)
[2] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
)
[1]
Saki
(
Waynegg
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.16

[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8)
[4] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light)
[3]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[2]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
,
Saki
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
)
[1]
Saki
(
Waynegg
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.17

[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8)
[4] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light)
[3]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[3]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[2]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
,
Saki
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Saki
(
Waynegg
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.18

[5]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8)
[4]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
, Faster Than Light)
[3] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
)
[3]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2]
Waynegg
(
Ghostlin
,
Saki
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Saki
(
Waynegg
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.19

[7]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8,
TiphaineDeath
,
Ghostlin
)
[5]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
, Faster Than Light,
Waynegg
)
[3] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Waynegg
(
Saki
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.20

[7]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Andrius, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8,
TiphaineDeath
,
Ghostlin
)
[6] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Waynegg
)
[1] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
)
[1]
Sound of Silence
(
Saki
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Mac
)

Vote Count
1.21

[6] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light,
notscience
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
)
[6]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Desperado,
Aj the Epic
, Nachomamma8,
TiphaineDeath
,
Ghostlin
)
[2] BROseidon (
Sound of Silence
,
Mac
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Waynegg
)
[1]
Saki
(Andrius)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Saki
)

Vote Count
1.22

[7]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Desperado, Nachomamma8,
Ghostlin
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Aj the Epic
,
Sound of Silence
)
[6] Andrius (
Trust Fund
,
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light,
notscience
,
TiphaineDeath
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[2]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Waynegg
)
[1] BROseidon (
Mac
)
[1]
Saki
(Andrius)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Saki
)

Vote Count
1.23

[9]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Desperado, Nachomamma8,
Ghostlin
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Aj the Epic
,
Sound of Silence
, Andrius,
Trust Fund
)
[4] Andrius (
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light,
TiphaineDeath
)
[3]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Waynegg
,
notscience
)
[2]
mastin2
(BROseidon,
nickthename
)
[1] BROseidon (
Mac
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)

[1] Not Voting (
Saki
)

Vote Count
1.24 (Final)

[11]
RachMarie
(
zMuffinMan
, Desperado, Nachomamma8,
Ghostlin
,
BeautyAndTheBeast
,
Aj the Epic
,
Sound of Silence
, Andrius,
Trust Fund
,
Saki
, BROseidon)
[4] Andrius (
Malakittens
,
RachMarie
, Faster Than Light,
TiphaineDeath
)
[3]
nickthename
(
mastin2
,
Waynegg
,
notscience
)
[1] BROseidon (
Mac
)
[1]
mastin2
(
nickthename
)
[1]
TiphaineDeath
(
Antihero
)
I'll crunch these, if you list up the others I'll do them as well.

I can already tell you though that scumputer is going to say FTL has highest percentage chance of being scum and should be the logical lynch today before I even run it.

I can also say that as scum BROseidon likes to vote in the 3 and 4 slots and camps on his vote. Meta says he's also a great choice.

In post 4918, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 4917, Trust Fund wrote:Vote Count 1.13

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Saki, Aj the Epic, Waynegg)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[3] Waynegg (Ghostlin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] nickthename (mastin2)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[2] Not Voting (BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac)

Vote Count 1.14

[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj the Epic, Waynegg, Nachomamma8)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[2] Waynegg (Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, BeautyAndTheBeast)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] Saki (Saki)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)

[1] Not Voting (Mac)

These two vote counts make FTL-scum veeeeery unlikely. I don't see varsoon-scum piling onto Andy right after two others hop on, regardless of andy's actual alignment.

Trust Fund · Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:10 pm

EVen given that counterlogic, you understand why I want to lynch from {bro, desp, nacho} first right?What is your pick of those three?

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:36 am

In post 5040, Desperado wrote:
In post 5037, BROseidon wrote:On the one hand, I want to lynch Desp because he's trying to lurk away pressure.

On the other hand, I feel like town-Nacho would have seen this by now.

Can everyone not on one of me/Desp/Nacho get on a viable wagon so we can just end this day already. I'm sick of having to deal with scumcho and with scumDesp being allowed to coast.

Try as hard as you might there was never a viable scenario where the three of us aren't getting lynched before this game is over. I'm just playing out the string.

Well I mean this kinda looks like a scum confession, so there's that.

Let's get this show on the road.

VOTE: Desp

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:59 pm

Desp, if you have any objections to Nacho's plan, speak now, or hold your peace and self vote.

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:32 pm

'das L-1.

Desp, thoughts before you go swiftly to the noose?

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:46 pm

Wayne, do we really need to sit down and have me tell you how fucking stupid it is to think that venmar slot was/is/will be scum?

Bro not caring until tomorrow is hardly alignment indicative. Scum has much better shots tonight, we'll all be here tomorrow.

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:49 pm

Your usual "throw shit at townreads and see which saps go along" plan you usually use, wayne, doesn't really work in a holding pattern of multiple day's lynch plans like this one.

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:02 pm

So if we can get this show on the road that'd be great, mmkay?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:28 am

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bye.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:14 am

In post 5072, Desperado wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Desperado

It's ok wayne this was a scum claim anyways. Town desp would have given last reads n shit first.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:15 am

FTL investigates tonight, and we go from there. See you all (less ghostlin) tomorrow, probably.

(Don't worry ghostlin if it comes to it I won't hesitate to lynch nacho)

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:46 am

In post 5091, Nachomamma8 wrote:cabd probably wouldn't either unless he was playing an absolute shit game but he really isn't

Thanks buddy.

SO if it's not you who is it? Bro? Why wouldn't he have done all the things you said in 5092?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:57 am

Oneshot scumfuck PR removal, used on Bro n1

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:07 pm

Not really sure tbh. Nacho already claimed vt and was shown VT, so it might be better for ghostlin to protect one of the confirmed towns instead? Like if desp flips scum like I think he is, there's no way for a bro-cabd scumteam happening at this point, so we lynch bro and nacho in either order and game ends I think.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:49 pm

Why would he investigate me twice?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:56 pm

Follow your heart! Or some shit like that.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:04 am

Lol wayne, dumb vote is dumb.

Also if scum wants to surrender now would be the time to do so instead of dragging out the inevitable.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:04 am

What did you get as far as investigative stuff, varsoon?

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:08 pm

If you're town, take your mislynch with honor that you're playing a gamebreaking win strategy, and give us your reads other than
"it has to be nacho guyz." because if you flip town, we're lynching your number one scum suspect tomorrow. If you're scum, eat your game loss.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:08 pm

No andy, you can wait until tomorrow. But seriously for fuck's sake can the scum PLEASE just claim and end this shit early?

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:09 pm

Like seriously I'll bake you cookies or something.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:11 pm

God dammit put your vote back on bro.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:17 pm

BTW if it is nacho he hates giving up and will make us lynch him the hard way so we're making sure dat happens tomorrow.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:21 pm

VOTE: Bro

Varsoon can hammer, andy can hammer, I give zero fucks.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:23 pm

Fine, wait until then to hammertime shit.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:23 pm

I kinda wanna do some VCA again with the extra data...

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:29 pm

Lol, bro that was really shit if ur town.

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:37 pm

Huh. Well, if you're town and not hammertrolling, I guess this is where we lynch nacho tomorrow?

Trust Fund · Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:39 pm

In post 5352, BROseidon wrote:No, you bully Nacho into hammering Andy because THERE IS LITERALLY NOT REASON NOT TO.

YOU ARE ALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THIS COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

Yeah that's what I meant.

Trust Fund · Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:04 pm

VOTE: Andy
Nahco hammers. Follow the plan.

Trust Fund · Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:05 pm

Also, varsoon, whatcha got?

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:29 pm

Well, the play here is actually having antihero tell us how the last part of his role is worded, and we compare it to mine.

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:40 pm

In post 5473, Andrius wrote:if he used his power up (like TF did) it makes sense

No because using mine up made me still show as a PR when checked by varsoon.

Trust Fund · Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:43 pm

Not if his is worded like mine is. Just let him answer and then we'll get on with the killing you.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:13 am

UNVOTE:

Not so fast, antihero.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:14 am

In post 5463, Nachomamma8 wrote:Wait. Varsoon received a Vanilla on Antihero after he lost his power.
Varsoon did NOT receive a Vanilla on Trust Fund after he used his power.

In post 5468, Trust Fund wrote:Well, the play here is actually having antihero tell us how the last part of his role is worded, and we compare it to mine.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:33 pm

Varsoon, what night did you check me, again?

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:40 pm

Okay so here's the issue:

In post 5489, Antihero wrote:I will no longer be able to use to use my ability

My ability's wording says the same thing if you paraphrase it. It's also my only ability. I came back not vanilla and had already used my shot night one.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:02 pm

Before we go forward I kind of want to walk myself through the logic here again.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:09 pm

In post 0, borkjerfkin wrote: 2. Andrius
6. Varsoon
8. Mac
10. Nachomamma8
14. notscience, Midori Uzuki
18. TiphaineDeath
19. Trust Fund
20. Antihero

I'm assuming one scum here. If there's more than one our plan is already fucked.
If there's more than one godfather in this setup, then I will wash my hands of this game to lolmodfuckery, but i don't think that's the case because bork is a cool guy.

That clears by default Mac, TD. Notsci is an inno child. That's three for sure. Town cop won't lie about results, so if there's any scum within {antihero, mac, TD} it has to be antihero by definition.

The plan calls for us to lynch Andrius today and have nacho hammer. If nacho is town, then that puts us down three going into the next day.

2. Andrius

6. Varsoon

8. Mac

10. Nachomamma8

14. notscience, Midori Uzuki
18. TiphaineDeath

19. Trust Fund
20. Antihero

Blue dies if both andy-nacho town. One of the three greens get shot at this point. Assuming notsci dies (it doesn't matter which of the three) Leaving us with:

6. Varsoon

8. Mac

18. TiphaineDeath

19. Trust Fund
20. Antihero

Which the plan then calls for us to lynch me. The game will continue into 3p LYLO...

6. Varsoon

8. Mac

18. TiphaineDeath

19. Trust Fund

20. Antihero

Leaving one green (let's say mac for fun) and two unknowns

6. Varsoon

8. Mac

20. Antihero

And then it's a tossup at that point. This is the only thing that worries me. I don't ~THINK~ the game will get here, and that it's nacho, but I'm afraid as to the LYLO in the 3p stage.

One of {mac, TD, notsci} is gonna have one helluva choice to make when it comes to that, IF it comes to that.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:13 pm

In post 938, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 933, Mr. Flay wrote:If you'll notice, we tried that several times. EVERY TIME it garnered accusations of being scum.
I propagated that. It wasn't really a good reason to find someone scum (sure they didn't want to go along with an optimal plan, but that was something that could have been talked about).

In post 933, Mr. Flay wrote:I maintain that the sportsmanlike thing for Nacho to do would have been to concede post-massclaim. Yes there was some minor chance champino would flake or miss his choice, but instead we got MONTHS of pointless discussion, apathy, and non-Mafia-related arguing. And while it was good WIFOM to make me think he was Town trying to salvage the game, it was never enough WIFOM to make me not lynch him in the end. Several people said that, enough to have majority every single Day. So why not concede?

I don't think it is the scum's responsibility to give themselves up when they are caught.
[/color][/u][/i] It is still the town's responsibility to lynch that caught scum and end the game; you guys had majority on me for a day and a half, you could have lynched me at any time. I felt guilty lurking, but the only way that I could have even a tiny chance of winning was a last minute fuck up in that 7 player LyLo. Being active scum would have been nice, but then it would've been harder to picture town-Nacho fucking over the game by not picking scum. I saw people thinking I was scum or townish until 3p LyLo sure, but some things change. We were in this thing for a WHILE, and I figured the less of a directing hand I had in the game the more believable the final sell in 3p lylo.

In post 933, Mr. Flay wrote:Also also, what was up with the first two missed kills by scum?
First one was because I didn't have a strong PR read and I expected most of the playerlist to target me, didn't lose anything from it since I would earn another kill in MyLo (and because I'd have a clearer picture of the game by then). Second no kill was stupid, I was gonna shoot Miss Stranger but then I realized no cop, no good PR reads, and I was more afraid of an easy mislynch getting confirmed town than I was about getting another lynch. I regretted the second one pretty quickly, not that it mattered in the end.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:15 pm

I still think the plan is the best way for this to go down. I mean, I'd much prefer not to lynch me and to be able to lynch both antihero AND varsoon in case one of them is scum, but I can see why eliminating me as a possibility makes sense from the not-me POV.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:21 pm

That said I still think varsoon is the lynch in that hypothetical 3man lylo.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:44 pm

Colored fancy votecounts, unknown alignments blue, town green, scum red.

Spoiler: Holy Wall posts, batman!

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:30 pm

Ok so I'm just walking myself through each day out loud. Anyone else can chime in if they want to.

Spoiler: Day one VC by VC

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:46 pm

Spoiler: If Nacho is scum, here is what the vote counts look like

Spoiler: If andy is scum, here is what the vote counts look like

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm

Spoiler: If Varsoon is scum, here is what the vote counts look like

Spoiler: If Antihero is scum, here is what the vote counts look like

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:48 pm

In post 5514, Andrius wrote:CABDDDDDDDDDD
WHAT IS YOUR REAGUE OF REGENDS NAEM

CabdisSK, but I suck because season three n stuff

In post 5515, Andrius wrote:also
do we really fucking need a vca on d7

You don't gotta click the spoiler buttons, andy.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:48 pm

In post 5518, Andrius wrote:spoilers
im not scum

!!!

Which of the other three possibilities looks most likely to you, then, 'cuz I'm not either.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:49 pm

In post 5511, Varsoon wrote:My major concern is if the game ends up with two/three of your green names alive in Lylo.

BTW if this happens I'm writing the game off as mod fuckery because that would mean fake inno child or multiple godfathers.

Trust Fund · Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:50 pm

In post 5521, Andrius wrote:why the hell do we need vcas for every flip that hasn't happened
srsly

It helps me sort n shit. Just skip it if you don't want it.