292: Mythical Monster Mafia- Game over


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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:47 am

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I'm town. :roll:

Now, when do we hang the scum?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:56 am

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I'd like to hear what d_rouge, Pug and SpeedyKQ have to say, but overall I do not object to a Shiryu lynch. I think the claim is BS, I do not believe he's the doc with this flavor.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:10 am

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Page nine votecount:

Flying Dutchman: 1 (d_rouge)
Phoebus: 1 (SpeedyKQ)
Shiryu: 5 (Alexander, Flying Dutchman, Maz Medias, Nightfall, Phoebus)

Not voting: (Osloboditelj, Pug89, Shiryu)


With 10 alive, it's still 6 to lynch.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:09 am

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Flavor shouldn't be a decisive factor, as I HAVE seen supposedly good characters turn out scum, and viceversa. And obviously you do not object to my lynching, Alexander, as you are already voting for me.

But yeah, I'm not gonna deny it. This was one of my worse games. I'll just off myself before you guys can get any more info out of the remaining players. Sorry for letting you down! >_<

Vote: Shiryu


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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:32 am

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So, you were scum? Scum self kill? or player self kill.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:12 am

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Self-votes are the suck. Ah well, let's see how it pans out, though the tone of Shiryu's concession post sounds like he's scum to me. I'm still looking at FD (especially if Shiryu doesn't show up as scum) and now to a lesser extent SpeedyKQ. We'll see tomorrow. Oh, and just to formalise:
Vote: Shiryu.


Now, it's off to intoxication-land for me (granted, I'm already halfway there).
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:53 pm

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Day two final votecount:

Flying Dutchman: 1 (d_rouge)
Phoebus: 1 (SpeedyKQ)
Shiryu: 7 (Alexander, Flying Dutchman, Maz Medias, Nightfall, Osloboditelj, Phoebus, Shiryu)

Not voting: (Pug89)

As the day wore on, various names were batted around back and forth as the group of mythical creatures tried to decide who among them was guilty of the killings. Names were given, questions raised, tempers heated. Finally, as dusk neared, they set upon Shiryu, who had tried to protect himself and only roused their suspicions. EnderX looked away as the group descended upon the hapless Shiryu, but nothing could block his ears from the sounds of destruction coming out of the crowd. Finally, everyone stepped back from the fallen Shiryu, and EnderX stepped forward. Once more he drew a letter from the victim.


I see that your name is listed in the registry, ma'am, but I'm afraid I cannot find the entry forms for your participation in this round of the census. I'm afraid I won't be able to allow you to participate in the census unless you can provide the necessary documentation to my satisfaction. You have until the beginning of the census.
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EnderX turned off the disguise generator, revealing the form of a young woman, stilled in death. She would have been quite beautiful, if it weren't for the malicious grin that she bore even in death. At a signal from EnderX, a couple of people dressed in Mythcensus shirts took the fallen woman and carefully lowered her into the sea, then shoved her out into the open waters.

EnderX turned to the gathered crowd. "Thank you," he said, "maybe we can get back on track tomorrow. For now, please get a good night's rest."


Shiryu, Lorelei, mafia roleblocker- Lynched Day Two.


It is now night. Dawn is in 96 hours. Please get your choices in.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:29 am

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Day three dawned, and the remaining few stepped back to the shoreline. To their horror, they found not one, but two victims. EnderX stepped forward to view the fallen.

The first victim was the individual known alternately as Astronaut and Nightfall. EnderX withdrew the usual letter, and began to read it.


Sir (or maybe Sirs...Sorry, I'm still not quite sure how to address the group of you), It is with great pleasure that I welcome you to our MythCensus. Together, you form one of the most well known, if not most respected, of the various creatures of mythology, and having you in this round of the census is a wonderful bonus for us. I wish you well during the current round of the census, and hope you are happy with the end results.
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After he finished, EnderX flipped off the disguise unit. Below lay a single decapitated reptilian head, wilted through and broken near the base.


Nightfall[Astronaut], Hydra Head, mason-Wilted Night three.


Leaving Nightfall, EnderX approached the other victim, Flying Dutchman. Once more, he drew forth a letter from the fallen.


Sir, I respectfully tend my thanks for your acceptance of our invitation. In the absence of Argus, you were the only one we could think of to request in his place at the MythCensus. That you have been willing to participate means a great deal to all of us at the MythCensus Bureau-not all of those we've selected for this round have been as willing to work with us. I wish you, and by extension Argus, the best during this MythCensus.
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EnderX turned off Flying Dutchman's disguise unit, revealing what appeared to be a delicately carved statue of a bird, with a magnificent spread of tailfeathers. Through the heart of the statue, though, was a deep, slightly ragged hole. The poor bird's face was also a mask of agony, forever frozen in stone. At the very tip of the tail, on a single unpetrified feather, a brilliant eye winked once, then closed eternally.
As the census participants watched, a single tear rolled down EnderX's face at the sight.


Flying Dutchman, Peacock, cop-Stabbed and Petrified, Night three.


Day three. With seven remaining alive, it's four to lynch.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:46 am

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Petrified, huh? I wonder who
that
could be.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:12 pm

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Ok, I really don't know what to do at this point. I re-read everything, and none of the living really stands out as particularly scummy to me.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:16 pm

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My only vote of the game and it was on scum... That will do....
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:07 pm

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Well, bah.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:51 pm

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Maz Medias wrote:Petrified, huh? I wonder who
that
could be.
Actually, in the interest of disclosure... that was me; I'm our vig. The rolename is not quite the one you might first expect, but I don't know if a nameclaim is necessary at this point. I'll claim fully if needed. Basically, I killed FD because suspicion had been piling on him from the beginning, plus it seemed like a good idea at the time (I may have been somewhat intoxicated at said time). Anyway, I'm only responsible for the petrification... the stabbing must be another killing group. That might mean Shiryu was blocking a SK both previous nights, or any number of other things... but it looks like we know FD's day 1 worrying was somewhat legit (oh, the irony!).

More analysis at a later time, but I'm going to throw a
Vote: SpeedyKQ
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:56 pm

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Hmmm... I'm not sure we can believe your claim.
First of all, I don't see why it was necessary to claim and then, what if you actually are the SK and were preparing to come out as a vig?

I have to admit that it would be quite a ballsy play to come out like that, exposing yourself, but I don't feel you should be automatically believed.

I'll see what happens, but there's something that doesn't seem right to me in your claim...
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:11 pm

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I came out to give the town proper information, especially since it would look pretty bad if I came out later and said "I also sort of killed our cop last night"- I think that claiming at this point minimises collateral damage. Furthermore, by my coming out unprompted, it's easier to understand that the stabbing rather than the petrification is our new scum MO. Was claiming the best play? I'm not sure, but I have no choice but to stick with it, and I think I'd do the same again. Also, this way we can use my ability as a sort of additional lynch, as is the general purpose of a claimed vig. Furthermore, I think not killing for two nights in order to claim vig would be a losing strategy for an SK.

You have the right not to believe my claim, but I'd like to know more about why, exactly. And if you need a rolename, I'm happy to give it.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:35 am

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Osloboditelj wrote:Furthermore, by my coming out unprompted, it's easier to understand that the stabbing rather than the petrification is our new scum MO.
We had wiltings each night until now; it seems unlikely that scum would roleblock THEIR OWN KILLS! The only possibility for the wilting to be SK would be for the doctor to have correctly chosen the mafia targets both nights.

The much more likely thing is that the wilting is the mafia MO, and that you're a stabbing, petrifying SK. Between this little gem and the fact that you're holding your own survival in SUCH high esteem, I'm going to
Vote:Osloboditelj
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:53 am

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I don't know of a monster that can both petrify and stab. We had a scum roleblocker and we have most likely a doc. Between the doc and the blocker, it is possible, albeit unlikely, that the stabbing was prevented on both nights 1 and 2.

I say Oslo could very well be the true vig, and there is after all an SK somewhere. Now, here's a good argument not to lynch Oslo today:
- If Shiryu roleblocked the same person on nights 1 and 2, the mafia most likely have realized by now that person is the stabbing SK. They will most likely kill the SK tonight.
- If not, the mafia will not be sure whether Oslo is the vig or the SK - they will most likely kill Oslo tonight just to be safe.
Either way, we are likely to know Oslo's true alignment by next morning.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:06 am

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In other news,
Vote Phoebus

Why? I have eliminated Oslo as a lynch candidate for today, and I am willing to give Maz and d_rouge a pass due to their relationship with Shiryu. Pug is obviously clear, this leaves Speedy and Phoebus only. I'll vote for the latter, because competing wagons are cool.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:47 am

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Sorry I've been neglecting this game. I'll get caught up by tomorrow.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:54 am

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Maz Medias wrote:
Osloboditelj wrote:Furthermore, by my coming out unprompted, it's easier to understand that the stabbing rather than the petrification is our new scum MO.
We had wiltings each night until now; it seems unlikely that scum would roleblock THEIR OWN KILLS! The only possibility for the wilting to be SK would be for the doctor to have correctly chosen the mafia targets both nights.

The much more likely thing is that the wilting is the mafia MO, and that you're a stabbing, petrifying SK. Between this little gem and the fact that you're holding your own survival in SUCH high esteem, I'm going to
Vote:Osloboditelj
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By "scum" I meant the combination of mafia and SK; perhaps "anti-town" would have been better. SK isn't the only possible option either (extra mafia kills aren't unknown), but I think it's relatively clear from the format Ender presented it in that stabbing and petrifying were two different kills directed toward FD. I seriously doubt my role - which I remain willing to claim - would stab (and besides, stabbing something while also petrifying them seems excessive to me). Also, I'm not sure what you mean by me holding my survival in high esteem - by claiming I made it rather likely that I'll be dead by tomorrow morning, as Alex pointed out.

I agree that the main contenders for a lynch are Speedy and Phoebus, and the course of action is fairly clear: we lynch one now, then I vig the other unless we have reason to cease suspecting them. I suspect Speedy a bit more than Phoebus, mainly because I agreed with several of Phoebus's early posts and Speedy's been incredibly low-profile all game. However, let me note that now that we're fairly certain there's an SK around, d_rouge's play against Shiryu might not guarantee his innocence, and Alexander is of course not exempt from examination (though I strongly believe him to be pro-town).
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:14 pm

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Osloboditelj wrote:
Maz Medias wrote:
Osloboditelj wrote:Furthermore, by my coming out unprompted, it's easier to understand that the stabbing rather than the petrification is our new scum MO.
We had wiltings each night until now; it seems unlikely that scum would roleblock THEIR OWN KILLS! The only possibility for the wilting to be SK would be for the doctor to have correctly chosen the mafia targets both nights.

The much more likely thing is that the wilting is the mafia MO, and that you're a stabbing, petrifying SK. Between this little gem and the fact that you're holding your own survival in SUCH high esteem, I'm going to
Vote:Osloboditelj
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By "scum" I meant the combination of mafia and SK; perhaps "anti-town" would have been better. SK isn't the only possible option either (extra mafia kills aren't unknown), but I think it's relatively clear from the format Ender presented it in that stabbing and petrifying were two different kills directed toward FD. I seriously doubt my role - which I remain willing to claim - would stab (and besides, stabbing something while also petrifying them seems excessive to me). Also, I'm not sure what you mean by me holding my survival in high esteem - by claiming I made it rather likely that I'll be dead by tomorrow morning, as Alex pointed out.

I agree that the main contenders for a lynch are Speedy and Phoebus, and the course of action is fairly clear: we lynch one now, then I vig the other unless we have reason to cease suspecting them. I suspect Speedy a bit more than Phoebus, mainly because I agreed with several of Phoebus's early posts and Speedy's been incredibly low-profile all game. However, let me note that now that we're fairly certain there's an SK around, d_rouge's play against Shiryu might not guarantee his innocence, and Alexander is of course not exempt from examination (though I strongly believe him to be pro-town).
Ah, alrighty. I misunderstood your usage of "scum".
Unvote


I would not be unhappy with a Phoebus, Speedy, or d_rouge lynch/vig.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:59 pm

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Howdy, all!

Looks like I'm replacing Phoebus (I think) for you guys, I will begin my reading of this game later tonight (in an hour or so, I would wager, playing ScumChat right now) and post my thoughts as I see things (so it will probably come off as stream-of-consciousness, because that is likely what it will be).
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:32 am

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Okay, I'll quote things as I see them. This post might be pretty long, I don't know yet. I'll probably also dish out a lot of FoS's, but I'll find out as I go. I guess I'll sort of ignore Phoebus's posts (since that is who I'm replacing), and if there is anything you would like me to try and address for Phoebus, I'll see if I can do that.
SpeedyKQ wrote:Hm, interesting that the plant was "wilted". This is a manner of dying that only makes sense for a plant, so the nightscenes may not give us any useful information about the nature of the baddies. Then again, it probably doesn't matter.[/b]
This seems like an attempt to confuse killing methods. EDIT: Never mind, after looking at first post, I see there have been two "wilting" deaths, and I don't even see a valid point for wanting to confuse killing methods anyways.
Osloboditelj wrote:I dunno, SKs are hardly uncommon... best not to make any assumptions yet.
I don't know what has happened in the game so far, but I suspect this guy'll have a killing role after telling us not to make assumptions on the set-up. EDIT: Looks like he just claimed a killing role in the game just recently.
d_rouge wrote:You'd prefer more nightkills? So your scum group would need less time to get rid of all the townies?
:shock: That really seems like a blatant misrepresentation on FD. But reading further, I can see the town has already given him flak about that one...
Der Hammer wrote:Lets get our lynching noose ready.
Cmon my fellow heads
you know who you are. hisss hisss. Vote:d_rouge
What on Earth, is that Mason claim on page two? EDIT: Yes, it was.
Pug89 wrote:Vote: d_rouge
Your response did not convince me of your innocence. You voted too quickly especially considering the small amount of information available this early in the game.
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FoS: Pug89
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Oslo wrote:On the Hammer issue, my main issue actually wasn't the hiss hiss, but the "Lets get our lynching noose ready". Combined with the rest of his comment, he's implying that he's part of a group... and that he wants the group to string d_rouge up. That doesn't make me think the group is very town-aligned.
Weird, the first thing I thought was Masonry. I guess I can see that, though. Still, I thought Der Hammer had made it quite obvious.
Pug89 wrote: As to asking for a claim; I doubt that it would be of little if any use. With the theme of this claim it would be extremly easy to fake a claim.
There's something about that comment I just don't like. A second
FoS: Pug89
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Alexander wrote:Vote Pug89 because of all 3 offenders (him, FD, d_rouge), he has the least votes and thus is the safest to vote for.
Although I cannot disagree with a vote on Pug while reading this far, the reasoning behind the vote seems a bit silly. FD was only at two votes at the time, for example: "safety" when both FD and Pug are safe does not strike me as a relevant factor (although I can understand why he did not want to place another vote on d_rouge).
Maz Medias wrote:I've remained relatively low-profile this game for several reasons, one of which being the chance to cause someone like you to overreact to a probe.
If that's a serious strategy, I guess I have to say I don't like it. If town stays under the radar purposely, it only gives a good incentive for scum to do it too.
Der Hammer wrote:Me and Maz are close.....

Vote:Phoebus

There ive thought about it
Are there three Masons, then? Sorry, not that far in the game yet. I might delete this out if I think it is detrimental... EDIT: I don't think I'll delete this actually, it looks more like an out-of-game relationship upon reading further.
SpeedyKQ wrote: It feels like Pug is just trying to get a lynch from whatever way the winds are blowing. I'm ready to put vote number five on Pug, but I'll give him a chance to claim first.
I actually agree very much with this post as I’m reading, so I thought I would quote it.
Alexander wrote: Actually, that's one of the reasons I'm voting him. A mafia would like to spread suspicion everywhere ... "see, even people with believable claims cannot be trusted!", while a townie is more likely to use common sense and decide on a case-by-case basis.
I didn’t see Alexander state that reason
before
, but only the fact that Pug was “safe”.
Slight FoS: Alexander
, it looks like he’s trying to incorporate others’ reasoning as his own.
SpeedyKQ wrote:No matter how easy it is to fake a claim, it is bad play to finish a lynch without getting one.
What if we are lynching a player who can prove their innocense, such as a mason?
Am I really the only person who saw the accidental Mason claim? I don’t think I would be on a wagon running up a player I already had down as a Mason, personally.
Pug89 wrote:I am a Pheonix.
Noted for my reference.
Maz Medias wrote: I think we need more than a name to believe that.
And since you're probably a self-resurrection role
, we'll be able to test you. Lovely!
:shock: Where did that suggestion come from? Not sure if Maz was serious or sarcastic here, though.
Shiryu wrote: Pug's claim just looks very suspicious to me. Mostly do to the lack of extra information, and it just gives me an overall bad feeling. I'll withold voting for him until I hear more from his side, though.
Seeing as I know now that Shiryu was evil, I could see this as trying to be noncommittal in trying to lynch a partner, but also as trying to nudge the town closer to a lynch away from partners. I can’t tell which, though.
Flying Dutchman wrote: Hmm. The correct spelling is "Phoenix", of course... Since the mod can spell "Phoebus" correctly (People make "Pheobus" from that all the time...) I don't think this is your role.
Wow, voting on a spelling mistake? I’ll admit I’m not liking the looks of Pug at this point in my reading, but surely FD can come up with a better reason than that.
Phoebus wrote: Again, like someone else said, he'll probably claim re generation.
Maybe I just think regeneration roles sound silly, but apparently my predecessor did not. I could just be weird that way.
Pug wrote:I survive the first lynch or night kill.
Okay, I guess that
is
the same as a resurrection. Definitely sounds like a “safe” lynch, at the least.

And… I see Pug was lynched. And that it was unsuccessful. Not sure what to think about it, now, I suppose. However, I’ll admit this makes me more inclined to believe that he is innocent despite my previous FoS’s on him.
Pug wrote: I guess they could, but if a Phoenix where doing the killings wouldn't the deaths involve fire.
I don’t like this argument, something about it strikes me as wrong, and it seems over-defensive.
Shiryu wrote:To be honest, I haven't seen anyone do anything particularly suspicious (to me, at least) lately.
I never like it when people say that sort of thing when there is plenty to talk about. EDIT: And he was scum…
Oslo wrote:Actually, in the interest of disclosure... that was me; I'm our vig. The rolename is not quite the one you might first expect, but I don't know if a nameclaim is necessary at this point. I'll claim fully if needed. Basically, I killed FD because suspicion had been piling on him from the beginning, plus it seemed like a good idea at the time (I may have been somewhat intoxicated at said time). Anyway, I'm only responsible for the petrification... the stabbing must be another killing group. That might mean Shiryu was blocking a SK both previous nights, or any number of other things... but it looks like we know FD's day 1 worrying was somewhat legit (oh, the irony!).
Quoted for my reference, mostly.
Alexander wrote:I say Oslo could very well be the true vig, and there is after all an SK somewhere. Now, here's a good argument not to lynch Oslo today:
- If Shiryu roleblocked the same person on nights 1 and 2, the mafia most likely have realized by now that person is the stabbing SK. They will most likely kill the SK tonight.
- If not, the mafia will not be sure whether Oslo is the vig or the SK - they will most likely kill Oslo tonight just to be safe.
Either way, we are likely to know Oslo's true alignment by next morning.
Although this seems sound on the surface, I can’t help but feeling there’s something I’m missing in here. I think Alexander has made me think like this a couple times (such as when he suggested the mass-claim on D2), but it’s nothing I can put down concretely.

Let's see if I can give my general thoughts on everybody so far, then after my first read through of the game:

-Alexander: His posts certainly seem decidedly pro-town and logical, but I
also
get the feeling there may be something more sinister behind them. There are a few things in particular that stand out to me (which are not quoted in this post) that make me think he is very unlikely to with Shiyru's Mafia, but I'm wondering if he might be the apparent stabbing SK. And yes, I have reasons for this belief, and I'll try to post them coherently next time I have time.

-d_rouge: At the moment, I honestly don't remember much from his besides the initial odd statement he made on Day One. I will have to reread in order to remember him better.

-Maz Medias: I personally disagree with his "purposely under the radar style", but nothing else is sticking out in my mind atm.

-Oslo: Just recently claimed Vig, which is something I'm going to have to think about during a re-read of the game. I will reserve judgment on this claim for the time being.

-Pug89: I still think he has done some suspicious things, but the fact that he successfully passed the "lynching test" makes me want to believe he is more likely to be innocent than others.

-SpeedyKQ: I really can't think of anything Speedy has done in this game, but I'm sure a reread can alleviate that. Man. :(

So basically, I'll to reread before I finalize my opinions on everybody. Also,
Unvote
in case I'm voting for anybody and I didn't catch it.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:04 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:
Alexander wrote:Vote Pug89 because of all 3 offenders (him, FD, d_rouge), he has the least votes and thus is the safest to vote for.
Although I cannot disagree with a vote on Pug while reading this far, the reasoning behind the vote seems a bit silly. FD was only at two votes at the time, for example: "safety" when both FD and Pug are safe does not strike me as a relevant factor (although I can understand why he did not want to place another vote on d_rouge).
Not silly at all. This town has previously exhibited bandwagoning behavior, going from 0 to 5 votes over one page. Safety is definitely a factor, and competing wagons are good on day 1.
petroleumjelly wrote:
Shiryu wrote: Pug's claim just looks very suspicious to me. Mostly do to the lack of extra information, and it just gives me an overall bad feeling. I'll withold voting for him until I hear more from his side, though.
Seeing as I know now that Shiryu was evil
, I could see this as trying to be noncommittal in trying to lynch a partner, but also as trying to nudge the town closer to a lynch away from partners. I can’t tell which, though.
Flying Dutchman wrote: Hmm. The correct spelling is "Phoenix", of course... Since the mod can spell "Phoebus" correctly (People make "Pheobus" from that all the time...) I don't think this is your role.
Wow, voting on a spelling mistake
? I’ll admit I’m not liking the looks of Pug at this point in my reading, but surely FD can come up with a better reason than that.
So, PJ, before writing this huge post, you bothered to check that Shiryu was DEAD AND EVIL, yet you didn't bother to check that FD was DEAD AND GOOD, and are analyzing his posts as if he still matters? Seems like a major slip to me.

You intented this post to come off as a "stream of consciosness" analysis, but in fact it was all rehearsed.
petroleumjelly wrote:
Alexander wrote:I say Oslo could very well be the true vig, and there is after all an SK somewhere. Now, here's a good argument not to lynch Oslo today:
- If Shiryu roleblocked the same person on nights 1 and 2, the mafia most likely have realized by now that person is the stabbing SK. They will most likely kill the SK tonight.
- If not, the mafia will not be sure whether Oslo is the vig or the SK - they will most likely kill Oslo tonight just to be safe.
Either way, we are likely to know Oslo's true alignment by next morning.
Although this seems sound on the surface, I can’t help but feeling there’s something I’m missing in here. I think Alexander has made me think like this a couple times (such as when he suggested the mass-claim on D2), but it’s nothing I can put down concretely.
What. The. Heck.
petroleumjelly wrote:-Alexander: His posts certainly seem decidedly pro-town and logical, but I also get the feeling there may be something more sinister behind them.


What. The. Heck.
petroleumjelly wrote:There are a few things in particular that stand out to me (which are not quoted in this post) that make me think he is very unlikely to with Shiyru's Mafia,
The fact I was one of the first to vote him, and provided analysis that encouraged people to do the same, may have something to do with the fact that I'm not mafia with him.
petroleumjelly wrote:but I'm wondering if he might be the apparent stabbing SK. And yes, I have reasons for this belief
I am breathless to hear them. You cannot pin Mafia on my because I helped lynch Shiryu, and you can't pin SK on me because you have no reasons for it. So you just throw dirt in my general direction and hope it sticks.

Anyway, as mentioned above, PJ slipped. He intended the post to come off as spontaneous as possible, but in fact before writing it he already knew Shiryu was dead scum (yet miraculously didn't know FD was a dead cop).

So,
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:34 am

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PJ is replacing Phoebus. Phoebus seemed scummy. PJ just made a giant scum-post. I think the course of action is obvious, non?
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