Open 521: Jungle Republic (Alright. We'll call it a draw)

[Yggdra Union]

Also anything you quote after 569 is irrelevant.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

And your scumread on BOOM magically disappeared.
What happened to it?

-L

[Yggdra Union]

not my job. but whatever

Um yes it is. Unless you're dropping that accusation.

why should there be?

Because your answer is one of the 5 "lolexcuses".
Those 5 being:
1. WIFOM
2. OMGUS
3. Misrep
4. PoE
5. Tonality
Especially with almost no elaboration, which is both you and bald are doing.

and this is what makes me really not want to give you any quotes. but fine.

Translation: hold on lemme reread your ISO real quick and pick something that looks relevant!

541-551

Which is proven with this.
If you read that part correctly, those parts were me pushing my case on bald, not me reacting to bald's "case."

You switched between topics faster then I do in normal conversation (read: a lot)

Lmao
Things like this is why your stance is total BS.
Switched between topics too fast? Maybe for your taste, for you probably wanted that scumslip convo to go longer.
But I spent 100+ posts just on that damn topic and the topic dropped at the point when I made myself confirmed town with it.

I'll just say it generally so you don't jump down my throat again. I find your CONVERSATIONS with bald to be scummy.

And by saying this, my calling you out on inconsistency earlier is now valid and proven.

I'm sorry if I don't post every thought that passes through my head (no i'm not). But the fact is I think about the games I play in, a lot. And my views change. I post when they change.

Thank you for proving my point even further.
You didn't post about my posts' tonality until way after your vote, which means that you didn't had that opinion when you voted me, according to your own words.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

so I consider all your interactions with bald as related to his case (or non-case, whatever you want to call it) because if it wasn't on your mind and therefore coloring your posts....you're stupid. That's why I like fights in mafia and in general.

BS justification + ad hom + false confidence!

Scumpost 101!

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Fire away, soldier.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Let me start by saying...

FUCK WHY IS EAGLE MAFIA?!

HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE WEREWOLF!!!

FUCK

FUCK FUCK FUCK.

Ahem...

I will avenge the, old pope of Ireland
-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

VOTE: Ace

Also somebody quote bald's last reads pls.
I can't quote with this damn phone.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

It does to Aegina. (Aegina wanted to correctly guess which scumteam bald was on as well.)

Also not that one.
The one with "wolf is - mafia is -"

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Ok.

I just wanted to guess which scum ace is flipping.
He's probably gonna flip wolf.

I don't think he's gonna bus in his last read when it was damn obvious that he was gonna be lynched.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Its not likely for him to lie about his wolfreads since he wants to help his teammates.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Which would mean that Om is not likely to be a mafia.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

aldus, mafia doesn't know who wolves are, if that helps.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Actually I was toying with the idea of ace being same team with eagle.
But their "omgus" were so stupid that it made me doubt that.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Considering that his fate was sealed, I think not bussing is what he was gonna do.
(Not like it changes the fact that ace is scum)
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Well get to the proof because I don't think you have had anything against Union...

Pushing a wagon without anything.

Scumteeeeeeellll

Vote ace

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Ok nevermind.

Also.

By scum I mean wolf.

Because baldeagle was scum

Fuck

My reads are off >.>

Anyways.

You're still wolf though



-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

@ellen: Sister dear told me to tell you

that scum are those who she doesn't town read.

Pretty much

Not you, not om (I think), and not Boom.

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

You didnt seem to have any problem when I was so convinced that bald was scum and tippu was town.
-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

God dammit you didn't have to out yourself
I was slowly backing down on you too -__-

-L

[Yggdra Union]

But then I thought you got wolf result on Krazy too.

UNVOTE:

[Yggdra Union]

For the sake of reference

Green = Town
Blue = Not Wolf
Yellow = Not Mafia

BOOMSHAKALAKA

Alduskkel
Elleheathen

theaceofspades

TrumpetKing/or whoever replaced him
KrazyEyeKilla7

Yggdra Union

Om of the Nom

More references:
-Om is not mafia because of the way bald pushed him


-L

[Yggdra Union]

I'm down with lynching Krazy or TK's rep today.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

VOTE: Krazy

-L

[Yggdra Union]

And the page top steal!

[Yggdra Union]

Also if anyone didn't realize yet, tippy kill was a PR hunt kill.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

I called Om scum earlier, so no, that wasn't OMGUS.

ace, just because you don't think that Om is scum doesn't make me scum.

And, I'm a VT.

I could see a Om/YU wolf team and a

TIP, ace, Trumpet King mafia team

. To me, it just looks like that YU and Om are just bussing each other. Trumpet King was a guess, I didn't really have a 5th scumread. TIP is because he's lying about the fact that I lied. Ace, yeah you know why.

Also if bald was bussing, TK is mafia. (tippy flipped town, and ace is town.)

-L

[Yggdra Union]

I picked up your seer thing when you sudden-voted Krazy, btw.

Because of the way bald pushed Om, as I said in that colorful list. It just doesn't look like he was bussing Om, so
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Also, tbh, Om's still in my null list. That's probably why I'm not putting him as town.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Also I finished looking back baldeagle's posts.

I mainly looked for the interaction with all the players, and he didn't mentioned any read on Gnomeo/Aldus and TrumpetKing.
Also bald's interaction with them were very similar (agreeing with their posts but never mentioning them in his reads ever.)

And I am very confident calling them mafia at this point based on this alone. (because bald is... not the best player aka newb stage)

Which would make BOOM confirmed town fmpov, and wolves are Krazy and one of elle/Om (guess who I'm leaning on?)

TL;DR
Green = Town
Blue = Wolf
Red = Mafia
Light Blue = one of them are wolf.

BOOMSHAKALAKA

Alduskkel

Elleheathen

theaceofspades

TrumpetKing/or whoever replaced him

KrazyEyeKilla7

Yggdra Union

Om of the Nom

-L

[Yggdra Union]

imo, not fmpov

[Yggdra Union]

And this is my read.

Green = Town
Blue = Wolf
Red = Mafia

BOOMSHAKALAKA

Alduskkel

Elleheathen

theaceofspades

TrumpetKing/or whoever replaced him

KrazyEyeKilla7

Yggdra Union

Om of the Nom

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Elle, not boom.

My preferred lynch order is
Krazy -> TK -> Aldus ->One of Elle/Om unless wolf do us a favor and kill one of the mafias. (Which they would have to do soon)

-L

[Yggdra Union]

for me, he's confirmed town.

He's officially not wolf, and I already have my two very-confident mafia reads.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

for me, he's confirmed town.

He's officially not wolf, and I already have my two very-confident mafia reads.
-L

So unless you disagree with my mafia reads, BOOM is town.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Its not like all scums are supposed tobe bussing each other or something.
The wagon thing is null.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

When what?
-L

[Yggdra Union]

the thing is that 893 was for krazy.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

PoE.
Now prove this wrong please.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

dat mafia claim?

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Meh.

That's what I get for PoEing teams off of one lead.
Anyway, he's flipping scum so
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Aero is tomorrow.
If I was wrong with one of my wolf-read, that means that one of my mafia-read is wolf.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

So Boom is mafia?

-L

[Yggdra Union]

So Boom is mafia?

-L

nvm this.
I just had a derp moment.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Isn't it obvious?

There's mafia in Aero/Om/Boom. (Probobly Aero)
-L

[Yggdra Union]

I believe that his 949 is his more accurate wolf reads on his part.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Last mafia please claim if you want to have at least a slight chance to win.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Because we won't be able to lynch mafia for few days.
If we lynch mafia today and tomorrow we're handing a win to wolf.
And there's no way in hell we're not lynching today so
-L

[Yggdra Union]

When mafia gets run up to the point of claiming, it will be too late for QH will follow.
So basically mafia have no chance of winning if he doesn't claim but he gets 1~2% chance of winning by claiming today.

[Yggdra Union]

Quickhammer.

[Yggdra Union]

What's the chance of both wolf on the wagon, anyway?
Btw why are you so interested in mafia's chance of winning?
>:3

-L

[Yggdra Union]

You were caring about mafia's benefit over town's benefit.
If you were town, you should've been agreeing with my plan regardless of mafia's benefit or not.
For all we know, I could've been trying to trick mafia to outing. (It would've been awesome if that was the case though. Sadly, it's not.)

-L

[Yggdra Union]

I was pointing out why your plan wouldn't work.

And the town motivation of pointing out such thing is?
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Sister has this in the bag.

And we pretty much have the same reads (though, Scum-alignment-wise I'm off)

Anyways I'm pretty much not needed here anyways.

Can relax now

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Except for that BOOM is confirmed not wolf.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

NL is pointless bc one of us is gonna die and we don't get new info.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Aero
-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

@Elle, Om, Aldus
Vote Aero in your next post please if you haven't already.
Were gonna get the claim out of him.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Although the whole thing to take him to L-1 so he claims seems mostly like a formality, given that we could just skip the L-1 step...?

To show that I ain't bluffing.
(I hold teh hammer)

Im just worried that he could self hammer at L-1

But Im pretty confident he's a wolf.

I don't mind if he self-hammer at this point.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Claim.
Hint: if you're maf, you might want to claim truthfully.

[Yggdra Union]

I'm gonna be in V/LA til Friday.
About time that lazy half-blind Aegina to come here and post
-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Idk man.
I told those ppl to vote you so wagon analysis ain't the option.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

1. Because I told you to.
2. Nope. Mafia claiming now is very beneficial to mafia because mafia won't be able to be lynched for today and ttomorrow, wolf won't be able to touch him (gives town a mislynch which is doomspell for wolf), and he have a very good chance of winning tomorrow since mafia wins in 1v1v1 automatically. Yes, were basically helping mafia but that's like the only way of town to actually have a chance to win.

So put him to L-1 so I can hammer threat and see if he still claims town or not.
Mafia would claim truthfully because he have nothing to lose by claiming.

[Yggdra Union]

WHY THE FLIPPING HELL ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO PREVENT THE MAFIA TO CLAIM IN EVERY FUCKING WAY POSSIBLE
GIVE ME A GOOD REASON WHY OR I'M TAKING THOSE AS A SCUMCLAIM
-L

[Yggdra Union]

AND YOU BETTER NOT GIVE ME THAT "OH IT AIN'T GONNA WORK" CRAP
AT LEAST Y'ALL COULD'VE FOLLOWED ALONG REGARDLESS OF WORKING OR NOT IF Y'ALL WERE ACTUALLY TOWN

[Yggdra Union]

@Boom: hint: scum can play terribly too.
Also you can't take the WK issue like its classic town v mafia.

In case you haven't figured out yet, Aldus is mafia for overdefending "hypothetical mafia."
That leaves Aero is either town or wolf.

If he's a scum or some sort, he's wolf.
Also in that case elle calling aero town is basically calling herself wolf with Om via PoE so

-L

[Yggdra Union]

I kinda wanna wait until Om gets replaced or have his prod dodge here.
Also elle should be voting aero, because that way there's no chance of wolfhammer.

[Yggdra Union]

Hi.
If aldus, om, elle votes aero, that's all of the wolf-suspects voting, you know.
Boom wouldn't QH, I won't QH so there's literally no chance of quickhammer.
The only quickhammer we might see is the selfhammer.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Also aldus has a point.
This game is stalling annoyingly.
That makes me think even more that aero is a wolf.
I WANNA SEE HIM SQUIRM AT L-1
-L

[Yggdra Union]

You do realize that he's posting everywhere else, right?
The only way to check if he's mafia or not is to put him in freaking L-1 and ask for claim once again.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

We are.
Aero's wolf. If he was maf, he probably would've claimed one already.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

And no, he's not town.

[Yggdra Union]

I don't care if he's mafia or not - I don't want to lynch mafia right now and I don't think it's beneficial for wolves to know exactly who the mafia IS.
I want to lynch werewolf.

Obviously we're not lynching him if he claims maf.

I want a truthful claim from him.
Do you know how we get truthful claim? By putting him under the threat of hammer.
That's why I'm trying to put him at L-1 with "controlled environment" where it's safe from wolf hammer.

[Yggdra Union]

I don't think it's beneficial for

wolves

to know exactly who the mafia IS.

I dunno about wolves but it does benefit town, because it helps town PoE the wolves much easier.

[Yggdra Union]

I thought you had this one, sis?

We could totally.

Lynch Om

For greater justice

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

And I wouldn't be surprised if you were an arts major.

Or if you're Picasso.

Because that post is just some attempt to try and "wolf-paint" us.

And some deflection

And quarter-OMGUS

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Translation:

screw it. I'm seer. Boom is not a werewolf, an neither is union.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Tell me why you can't be wolf

screw it.

I'm seer.

Boom is

not a werewolf

, an

neither is union

.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

post

[Yggdra Union]

if no one's willing to wagon Aero, wagon Om.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Aegina wants Om dead first, while I want Aero dead first.

[Yggdra Union]

That was why I wanted a truthful claim from him but noooooooo
Somebody had to just refuse to put him in L-1 and now we have to wait for two freaking replacements.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Why don't you do I firstt?
You're the one who asked for it.

-L

[Yggdra Union]

Finally soneone who have a sense

But the point is that aero wasn't the only one who wasn't aware of the seer thing.
Om was unaware of it too.

Also we still have a chance if we lynch two wolves in a row.

3:1:2

3:1:1

2:1:1

2:1

[Yggdra Union]

And Om and Ald are wolves.

Read the thread.

Let us lynch om

for great justice

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Uh nvm my number.
I forgot something.

Also llama isn't mafia if anyone realized yet.

[Yggdra Union]

I'm telling you that aldus is mafia, not areo/llama.

Just look how shows keen interest in mafia's wincon and mafia's benefit.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

How he shows

[Yggdra Union]

Yeah I forgot that scum will force nl tomorrow
When I realized that it made me sad.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Ooh.
Llama is actually town.
This is why I love replacement who actually do stuff.
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Actually wait a sec.

Llama if aldus is town and elle is not-wolf-like, who are the wolves?
Me and boom are confirmed not-wolf.

[Yggdra Union]

All right. Screw this.
We're maf.

I did the calculation over and over again and this is actually gonna end with a draw.

[Yggdra Union]

VOTE: SV
Let's get dat wagon rolling now

[Yggdra Union]

I love how ppl are keep forgetting that I can't be wolf.

Why? Because PoE.

[Yggdra Union]

Srsly I'm so done with this now.
If SV is not wolf then gg wp wolf.

[Yggdra Union]

Ppl please vote SV in their next post.

[Yggdra Union]

Yggdra, are you following Ald's plan? If so, why do you think I'm a wolf?

unvote

Vote: Yggdra

This guy

Needs more votes on him

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

What do you exactly want to hear from boom?
SV voted claimed maf. That enough is already a damn good sign that he's a wolf.
Or perhaps... are you stalling?

[Yggdra Union]

Also LF already gave out reads: you/SV wolf.

[Yggdra Union]

Then vote SV so we can move along already.
Its about time that this day needs to end.

[Yggdra Union]

There's really no need to.
Everyone is calling SV wolf and he's not dead yet.
Also at this rate boom's gonna get replaced.
Save the mod some trouble. (He's dying tonight obv for being confirmed town)

[Yggdra Union]

And that everyone includes boom.

Also at this point llama is painfully town so idk why you're voting him.

[Yggdra Union]

This is freaking mylo and two more people are in verge of getting replaced. And we already had two replacements this day.
This is the worst mylo ever.

[Yggdra Union]

Hell, that mafia is the towniest player in this playergroup right here.
I might as well as be just town.

[Yggdra Union]

Lol SV @ voting confirmed town
-L

[Yggdra Union]

Seriously?

Why is SV not dead yet?

@Ald: Yes you are. And after SV, I wish you'd be next.

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Well <_<

Few comments.

I had no intention to lynch Aero Day 4. I just wanted a reaction from aero and lynch om's slot.

Also, initially we claimed maf to draw a cc. However it became painfully obvious to us that aldus was the second wolf and boom as last mafia after us claiming mafia. LF was obvtown from that intro and elle was still our townread even though we waffled like hell time to time.

So we decided not to retract and hope for wolf to kill boom the "confirmed town."

It was either raising town's chance to win or face a draw.

Our reads were basically confirmed the moment we died and DP's last post of D4.

[Yggdra Union]

Also what krazy should've done was CLAIMING MAFIA instead of self-hammering!

[Yggdra Union]

I was warming up to Yggdra because I knew they were some sort of scum.

Yddra Union has died Night Four
He was a

Vanilla Townie