NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:34 pm

RC.

AFB is a fucking doctor. It would be objectively stupid for MCMscum to lie about this.

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:35 pm

I don't think that's the right move tbh.

Also, there are underwhelming assumptions being made on this page.

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:40 pm

Actually, I'm having a change of heart with respect to how I'm approaching this whole claim situation. We have three invstigative roles out and we have the option to ensure at least one of them, assuming one is fake, probably gets another night. That's better than anything I'm going to do. And I'm afraid of the possibility I'll die tonight while scumdoc AFB potentially (not for sure that he's scum but if he is I get fucking wrecked) saves the person I am 99% sure is scum. Meanwhile I don't think I'm breadcrumbing effectively and the people I think are probably town aren't the people who are going to see breadcrumbs and act on them. So, fuck it.

I killed caledfwitch.

VOTE: Sangres

p-edit: yep you're damn right

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:42 pm

In other news, this explains the relative lack of ffery.

AFB, MCM and nachoffery all rolled scum. Which by the way is fucking rude.

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:43 pm

I will not be revealing the number of shots I have at this time, but I currently possess greater than zero shots. I kept it in my pants last night incidentally.

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:51 pm

In post 64, Doctor Jekyll wrote:
In post 61, Toomai wrote:
In post 43, MC Maraca wrote:Actually, good question for everyone. SK is found day one. Lynch or leash? Give reasoning, there will be a grading rubric.
I don't see the point in trying to control a third party who has essentially already lost all hope of winning. There's no reason for them to follow along.
We think leash in the short run, and kill immediately upon deviation.
We also feel like it's probably a moot point
.

By the way, this is a breadcrumb.

Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:59 pm

I was going to comment but then I realized that was what you were doing there

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:10 am

Why is anyone buying that I could possibly be an SK

You know they would say that regardless of whether I was an SK or not, right?

I should count as having a gun, but it seems like a bit of a waste of a gunsmith shot (probably the intention). I realize saying this makes me sound like an SK, but there it is.

It makes no sense that they are claiming to have shot me. So I'm supposed to have shot MVP then? Why would I do that?

Here's my proposition. We lynch/vig all the mafia. Then, if the game isn't over, you can lynch me to your heart's content (but the game will be over). I would never ever not do this.

Also, who the sweet fuck claims vig as SK? Yes, there was extra reason for it, but if I was BP, I wouldn't have to worry about being nightkilled, so I could just shoot sangres like I didn't. Also, I've been an SK in a non open setup before; I claimed VT. I would never consider not doing this.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:11 am

By the way, happy birthday Cabd! I got you a loss.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:12 am

Hope you like it, I didn't keep the receipt.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:07 am

In post 2692, Guyett wrote:@Cephrir you have to shoot AFB tonight ok

If we telegraph what I'm doing, scum know whether to roleblock me or not (surely they must have a roleblocker in this setup although if the team is what I think it is then sangres is probably the roleblocker). My thought is that we should give me 2 options at least. But if no one is comfortable with that (understandable) then I will shoot where the town insists. I won't give my thoughts on who I think I should shoot at present, in the event we go with option #1.

Oh wait, if scum waste a roleblocker on me we get to investigate someone. Never mind. Yeah, I think I should shoot AFB too.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:07 am

(But if a majority disagree I guess I'll go with it- I don't see the point in shooting Maraca though if AFB will just save him)

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:11 am

@AFB

There you go appealing to my intelligence again.

Surely you must be able to acknowledge how this looks from my perspective.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:17 am

In post 2707, Guyett wrote:A set up of

Cop
Gunsmith
Vig

vs

Mafia doc
2 from Roleblocker/Godfather/Encryptor

seems pretty even no? probably even a little scumsided

Cabd is probably a Mafia Follower

Might not be though

I'd bet money on Godfather

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:19 am

In post 2709, Angry Frat BROs wrote:
In post 2707, Guyett wrote:A set up of

Cop
Gunsmith
Vig

vs

Mafia doc
2 from Roleblocker/Godfather/Encryptor

seems pretty even no? probably even a little scumsided
Town can get full-confirmed scum by PRs by day 3. That's a shit fringe case to have.

Welcome to cops.

Also, the only way I think we can consider not shooting you tonight is if you swear not to protect Maraca. Even then I'm not sure.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:20 am

TBH if you save anyone but TIP it's basically a scum claim

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:59 am

The point remains, I don't think we're ready for a hemmer until people weigh in on what I should be doing tonight.

AFB, you can WIFOM all you want, but if TIP dies tonight you are getting lynched. I don't matter. I will probably be lynched as a suspected SK eventually anyway.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:59 am

TBH if the scum waste their kill on me tonight, we pretty much win the game, so I'm not that worried?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:06 am

No, he's not?

If anything I thought his vest bullshit was town.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:09 am

In post 2724, TheIrishPope wrote:no way Town P5 would lurk

You're kidding right

Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:07 am

He can't be a jailkeeper. If he was, MCM wouldn't have gotten a result.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:51 am

My only argument for lynching sangres over AFB is that sangres could be a roleblocker, and AFB can't be. Also, if AFB is town, TIP survives the night.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:31 pm

I think RC is probably real, but acknowledge a remote chance he's not.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:31 pm

In post 2747, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2746, Cephrir wrote:My only argument for lynching sangres over AFB is that sangres could be a roleblocker, and AFB can't be. Also, if AFB is town, TIP survives the night.
I would think that scum-PR sangres woulnd't do the vig claim, because a counterclaim would mean his death. He could have avoided the thread until day4 in order to coordinate a "better" fakeclaim.

But for that, I see your concern.

Does this mean you do NOT think Radiant is the cop?

I mean, with the gun found on them, I don't think they could have done much else. No one was going to believe a cop claim from them.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:27 pm

Seriously? How is that fair?

RC had better be full of shit.

I'm disappointed in myself for taking so long to come around.

@mod: how do you feel about me posting a link to a QT I made just for myself?

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:27 pm

Go right ahead buddy, I'd rather have a nightkilled by scum on my record than a survived anyway!

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:28 pm

Unfortunately I have to hug AFB D:

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:32 pm

The only reason I want to post my QT is so I can get credit for being paranoid about MCM/AFB more than I was in thread.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:34 pm

Agreed. Also, I suspect them of cheating, but that's just me.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:56 pm

By the way, I meant what I said about claiming vig. I would never claim vig as SK, literally ever, even if I was tracked to a kill and found to have a killing ability.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:57 pm

THe lack of a godfather there is so absurd that I have to believe RC is fake.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:59 pm

I mean that was certainly my automatic reaction. And there was the whole thing with his earlier posting basically claiming "not cop". It was only the scumteam becoming obvious that changed my mind.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:00 pm

In post 2782, BROseidon wrote:If it's not fake then the setup is pretty wtf. Double PR should be heavily gated in ways other than a godfather against one of them and a vig (vig is an anti-town role, interestingly enough)

It can be, but I'm not overconfident in my own reads! Woooo!

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:03 pm

I guess I don't see what this can possibly hurt.

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8CBZy3FrUuvn

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:12 pm

He started to suspect me after I basically pointed out "you should really suspect me", but that doesn't count.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:17 pm

In post 2789, yessiree wrote:yeah, Cephrir would be my back-up scumread

You didn't click on the qt I posted did you

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:20 pm

[Hint: I'm town]

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:36 pm

In post 2812, BROseidon wrote:Theoretically they shouldn't out in case there's an SK that is either non-compulsive or shot into already dead/protected targets.

Free mod meta: I think compulsive SKs are stupid.

Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:42 pm

SKs are hosed enough as it is. You ever heard of a compulsive mafia (outside of opens, shut up)? I didn't think so.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:35 am

I think he meant talking like the game is over when it's not officially over.

Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:21 am

My town wins are too sparse for me to pass them up

Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:37 am

In post 2863, RadiantCowbells wrote:If I had admitted it I'd have been lynched and then AFB and MC wouldn't have been at that point, or perhaps ever.

If town wants to be blind I will do the heavy lifting myself.

If you admitted it almost immediately, you wouldnt be lynched over it. Then it's just a reaction test.