Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[Metal Sonic]

when i said "i iso'd mastin and found town"

this is similar to the kagami read i had d2. i was right. i will trust myself that i am right currently as well.


kaze is one of the biggest question marks and he is on nobody's town list. lynch him imo

[Metal Sonic]

i usually dont rely on associative tells but i will do it specially because you suggested me to <3

[Metal Sonic]

digdigdigdig

I guess I need to reread pie and focus on tone/emotion to try to figure out what everyone is talking about then

I'll give up on getting a solid answer re aegor & kaze, I guess it's possible you just can't articulate that even though I'm certainly dubious

I just iso'd SSk and I guess he tried a little harder than I recalled but still =S

ping on SSK. note he waffles on SSK town. Note he calls out aegor and kaze(note2 that he had no idea aegor was SK)

I haven't read all these posts yet but I fucking told you pie was town

Venmar is scum for suggesting otherwise

note: he knew pie was going to flip town note2: possibly bus on venmar

[snip for brevity]

mastin2- Not scum, nor am I surprised you have a hunch(ish) about who I am. That being said, there are other plays I'm shocked have not let on an idea of my main.

sangres- Brilliant vote, I must say. In the spirit of naked votes, I raise you one:

VOTE: Aegor

ActionDan- Is this the part where we sing a duet of A whole new world or Hakuna Matata?

Brian Skies- Using intentional ragequits is a bannable offense I believe.

Tryingto be cutesy about Sangres's vote on them.
Voting an obviously town-aligned player.
Engaging action dan about nothing.

Wow this post looks so town-aligned.

Aegor is an obviously town-aligned player? First I've heard of it.

You are doing exactly what I'm scumreading mastin for doing, except even more blatantly and going against the grain a little more.

note: cephrir had no idea aegor was scum.

PEdit: It's not a mastin tell because this doesn't look like his scummeta.

That doesn't make any sense!

I guess I might as well just make this a readslist, even though they are the worst.

Town:
Skull- If you disagree with this just go away.
Pie- If you want to pretend the massive ATE didn't happen, I would still put this here. I never actually reread for tone or whatever people were seeing but I intuitively find those people to be full of shit.
Cabd- This is about as town a read as Cabd is going to get from me like ever. Maybe I should be worried that he isn't doing things I don't understand like he usually does, but he's made a lot of sense to me this game. I like that he isn't trying too hard.
Brian- I can't actually explain this off the top of my head, but I definitely recall feeling this way after some of his posts.
Kaze- Has weird tone/wording sometimes, but what he is actually saying seems pretty town if I don't think too hard about the ways he says it.

Lean town:
Sangres- Nacho has entered pretty well, but I'm not ready to give this slot a free pass.
Varsoon- Gut, I guess.
Muffin- Demeanor reminds me of FEA, even though I'd find him odd in a void.
SSK- Is actually sort of trying.

???:
Venmar- has rubbed me the wrong way at times (and I think you were the one who threatened me with a mutual scumread which I hated?) but nonetheless his neighbors are scummier
Actiondan- almost certainly never leaving this category, and probably never going to try
Metal Sonic- not radiating the town Metal Sonic I have seen and expected to see. Moves down substantially if AFB is town, I don't believe the neighbors are all town
Kagami- Started out okay, got weird. Might be something to what people have described as her(?) town meta not being present.
Aegor- I'm pretty sure I have touched on when I felt he was weird and possibly WKing me/trying to create a TvT in places. Hate the left field Kaze vote. On the other hand, did some things I thought were town early on.

Scummy:
Mollie- I have never seen you be scum but this doesn't seem in character. Feel like I should not be the only one worried about this, but apparently I am. Weird free pass from mastin who is probably scum.
AFB- I am trying to get around my inherent bias because of them tunneling me but it's not working. Everyone else seems to think they are obvtown but I don't get it. Honestly sounds a lot like Scumrir, and I'm sort of done with the 'Scumrir-esque players are town' mindset I used to have because it keeps being wrong.
Flandre- Just all around sucks every single post. Has not done anything town whatsoever.
Orc- I think we're letting him skate by entirely too much because people are seeing too much in the hated claim. Nothing prevents him from being hated and scum, which could easily prompt genuine emotion(if that's what people saw, because I didn't). Not radiating the town orcinus I have seen in the past. Tunnel on Skull is bullshit. Last time I thought he was weird, I was right and didn't listen to my instincts.

Scum:
Mastin- Explained this to death, realize it's not happening, still want the right to say I told you so in the event I actually got something right once in my life.

GOLDMINE POST LOOK HERE EVERYONE

note that most of these are lies by virtue of cephrir being scum. also note that cephrir has to put in some facts in as scum (he knows the alignment of everyone except aegor, so gotta kiss some ass)

note that he has SSK in his "leaning town pile" but with the most shittiest and contrived reasoning possible. note that he has flandre in scumpile with also very shitty and contrived reasoning. need you guys to spot the 3rd teammate that he has explain with poor reasoning. candidates atm (venmar/gooner/kaze), and he has poorest reasoning for gooner and kaze. seems that venmar isn't one of his teammates but i dont trust assoc tells anyway

-> points towards gooner/kaze scum

Well, I daresay neither of those is a vig shot.

In other news, I think Kaze is noticeably scummier given Kagami's flip.

points towards kaze scum

o wait

Unvote
Vote: Metal Sonic

you win this time, nacho

Are you serious? MafiaSSK is very obviously scum.

VOTE: Kaze

o.O

lol

[5] MafiaSSK (Skullduggery, ActionDan, Gooner, Cephrir, Aegor, sangres)
That's almost a confirmation that there's a scum in that neighborhood. I can't imagine why someone would not own up to that.

note that cephrir had no idea that aegor was scum. note that cephrir was probably referring to himself as scum in the neighbourhood, and was unaware that aegorscum in the neighborhood as well.

this kind of assoc tell points away from gooner

tl;dr cephrir's iso's associative tells point towards kaze as the last scumbuddy.

[Metal Sonic]

Kaze is a really good actor

But I saw him act as scum before so I won't fall for it again

[Metal Sonic]

Actually I didn't fall for it the first time but almost

[Metal Sonic]

I looooove my perpetual mylo badge but sad to not have xenoblade badge <-- best game but because of the derp I had in Lylo leading to complications


In other news <3 xeno mafia

[Metal Sonic]

Kaze is a really good actor

But I saw him act as scum before so I won't fall for it again

Not really.

Which scumgame of mine did you play in?

That's a compliment why don't you take it?

[Metal Sonic]

finally a post ! after xx hours!

[Metal Sonic]

hai mollie <3

[Metal Sonic]

</3

muffina can be a scum? oh noes
mollie can be a scum? oh noes


this game is hard

[Metal Sonic]

if i survive today i will iso everyone tomorrow this riddle must be cracked


the reason why i dont iso today is because too many players

[Metal Sonic]

because nobody reading him as scum lol

and i kind of took it for granted that he is town and also took it for granted that you are town lol

[Metal Sonic]

ok i will take this into consideration

will iso some day when i am free

because i spent lots of my free time today f5-ing but to see no posts

[Metal Sonic]

yes great! that solves our kaze problem

lynch venmar/gooner (pidgey looks town tho)

or maybe just lynch kaze and jk one of the above if wrong (probably not wrong)

u can jk me if u want it wont do anything lol

[Metal Sonic]

*looks at your most cunning manipulator badge*


oshit

[Metal Sonic]

did an iso of mollie

is town


that eliminated any problems yep

[Metal Sonic]

muffina is town!

this a bit funny lol cause its the first thing i saw


moving on.. lets iso muffin

[Metal Sonic]

ya muffin is town too

case closed

[Metal Sonic]

if i survive today i will iso everyone tomorrow this riddle must be cracked


the reason why i dont iso today is because too many players

I feel like you keep saying you're going to do stuff

but you never do stuff.

scumtell omega

[Metal Sonic]

just humour me and lynch kaze

if thats the last reason ever

[Metal Sonic]

Pidgey I'm sorry but I don't remember playing with you

Or maybe the game we played as really boring so I didn't care, did I seem that way in the game we played? I usually tend to remember the players I play with in important games so yeah.

[Metal Sonic]

Wait no

It was mainstream mafia

Lol that was 1 year ago and my first game on this site

Very blah indeed

[Metal Sonic]

Ya so I obviously didn't care so ya you should throw that meta into the trash!

[Metal Sonic]

Pidgey I'm sorry but I don't remember playing with you

Or maybe the game we played as really boring so I didn't care, did I seem that way in the game we played? I usually tend to remember the players I play with in important games so yeah.

Hey MS, speaking of - what game did we play together where I was scum?

I wasn't going to make a big deal of this question until you decided not to answer it twice. I'm just ever. so. curious.

I meta dived you

[Metal Sonic]

I'll tell you after the game

[Metal Sonic]

im town because metal sonic is always town ~.~

[Metal Sonic]

ok here is mollie's scum meta i shall meta crossreference now

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=30960

[Metal Sonic]

note: mollie does not bus, but she puts a lot of pressure and asks questions to the partner, implying they are scum.

mollie lynched flandre obvscum(so did cephirr anyway), but did not vote ssk.



bascially i am getting xtra paranoid of mollie

[Metal Sonic]

screw it. i trust myself. lynch kaze and we talk about the problems later

[Metal Sonic]

yeah sure sounds good

VOTE: venmar

"finally end this game"

[Metal Sonic]

Notice how at the top of this page he acts convinced of lynching Kaze and the second

Mastin and Skull show interest in BS lynching me

, Metal Sonic jumps on it.

*and orc

[Metal Sonic]

if you're scum and thought that attempting to lynch metalsonic from day 1 up till now was a good idea, you're dead wrong.

ok maybe not that wrong but i changed my avatar and signature. no more lynchbait

[Metal Sonic]

gut and meta based my ass

"metal sonic is scum" right from rvs would you even buy that yourself

[Metal Sonic]

damn, dont know if kaze or venmar is scum

thank goodness we're settling them both today.

[Metal Sonic]

Yes I'm trolling

Because Orc isn't doing a good enough job

[Metal Sonic]

And subtlety is only for scum

[Metal Sonic]

Like you

Or perhaps Venmar

But he isn't being subtle maybe you

Or maybe both if muffin( or whoever it is) says there are 2 scum left

[Metal Sonic]

i dont see the connections to cephrir though

maybe im blind

Nice Freudian slip

those were me, sorry.

phone hydra slip i'll refrain from doing that ever

[Metal Sonic]

Hey, I have a much better idea: let's focus on Venmar or Metal Sonic today since the deadline is only 24 hours away. If there is a Day 6, we can explore the possible merits of lynching Pidgey then. There's no time for it right now.

i dont see the connections to cephrir though

maybe im blind

Nice Freudian slip

And you are...?

if kaze is confirmed town due to orc, then we lynch pidgey or me

lynch venmar today because orc, you and mastin said so

and i dont want to die

[Metal Sonic]

its more of a pride/ego thing really

i'd rather not kick the bucket first

otherwise i can offer myself up for lynch cause im not getting near lylo anyway I AM NOT A THREAT

[Metal Sonic]

*to town

[Metal Sonic]

then kaze duh

we need to see if orc jailkeep can damn or clear kaze


THEN you ask me the qn

[Metal Sonic]

i'll go buy the lottery

[Metal Sonic]

His defenses are flimsy

your offenses are flimsier

[Metal Sonic]

I won't let myself be lynched this day though, it's outrageous because i'm town and I won't be lynched by fucking Venmar and Kaze of all people.

what case do u have that is better than mine

[Metal Sonic]

ok man if kaze and venmar aint scum then u can lynch me tomorrow

i just wanna see u kick the bucket first cause i think ur legit scum probably

[Metal Sonic]

tomorrow then a DGB fan can do some VCA. maybe mastin can do it.

or maybe mastin can do it today i dunno why dont u "appeal to him" to save ur life

[Metal Sonic]

Metal sonic is always town

Don't second guess yourself just lynch Venmar because it eliminates uncertainty

I am sure town there is no need to fear because I won't win anyway

Lynch me later because <3

[Metal Sonic]

Just vote MS already, you only have two choices and only one of them is the right one.

Strong dichotomy

I hope u eat rope

[Metal Sonic]

*before I do

[Metal Sonic]

First you must eat a phone book

[Metal Sonic]

I am upset

[Metal Sonic]

venmar succeeded after all

skullduggery still has not confirmed her inclusion of a phone book in her diet

[Metal Sonic]

i <3 you mollie

[Metal Sonic]

Oh, gosh, you're absolutely right. I thought you were Scum, but you were actually the Serial Killer. I was

so

incorrect.

Of course you were: I can say whatever the fuck I want about other players with no justification and then say "I told you so!" after they flip; that does not make anything I said legitimate, it just makes it coincidentally correct.

That's pretty mean

But on a serious note you did crack under pressure (after you killed scum for us lol) which was the reason why I placed my vote on you. I don't know about the others

[Metal Sonic]

Mollie dear, I have a pointer to improve your scum play. I saw you claim scum twice in this game. Would you like to see where? <3

[Metal Sonic]

Bork is the best you will always be in our hearts