Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we lynch someone in the next 24 hours so we dont add more bullshit to the game and run the clock dangerously low?

Preferably Vezok, but I'll just lynch PV for the yololz at this point.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't see why Bulbazak having sketch reads is a reason to be suspicious of him.

I've been calling Rc town for no adequately explored reason. Srsly.

P-edit: You expect moderators to read their own games carefully? And analyze the ins and outs of your scumplay? And to be accountable for it?

[AngryPidgeon]

I sure do. Especially moderators who are on record as players claiming that I'm hard to read. It's a golden opportunity.

Except...not? Generally people believe that being TOWN in a game with someone who is scum makes for the best opportunity to learn since you are on the front line. If you are already spoiled while reading the game, you aren't going to learn as well.

And I sure as fuck don't read MY games carefully; I skim them. Ive got other shit to read.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bulba because his stance is inconsistent. I explained this yesterday. He's voting svenskt who he has at "scum or anti-town town" while his read on us is full-on scum. He says this is because he doesn't think we're a viable lynch today but I've

seldom

seen him compromise as early as he did on us when he's town. Given his stance I would have expected him to change his vote when he got into the scuffle with pieguy.

I love how this starts out as an "inconsistency" case and then morphs into a meta case half way through.

1) There is nothing inconsistent about his Sven vote. Voting a leading wagon who you think is scum/anti-town is pretty pro-town IN MY OPINION.
2) Sven was trolling Bulbazak explicitly, making Bulba's vote there pretty understandable regardless of fuckelse.
3) re underlined: So he DOES compromise as town then sometimes. Since your case is based on meta and the timing of his comrpomises, Im sure you are willing to cough up meta and run some statistics on how late in the day he typically switches to compromising on scum/anti-town reads and run his play here against his townplay and determine that there is a <5% chance this game is from the population of his town games. gogo.

[AngryPidgeon]

I did at first, too. but he's owned that read when I've pushed him about scumreading me.

Uhhh, so I ISO'd Bulba from that post onward.

He never mentions you after that until here:

Personally, I still want to get Sven lynched, but if a Majiffy or Sekai wagon started really building up, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

And THEN you actually pressure him about it.

Bulba looks particularly bad to me when I think about the game this way. He's voting for town-svenskt, whom he says is either scum or anti-town town. And yet he has a full-on scum read on me. I know bulba policy-votes, but this is kinda strange.

So he never actually claimed to have a full scumread on you other than the "why u role scum" post which was playful and certainly less than a mega-certain read.

You lied/misrepped the order of events in the thread and certainly never did anything to bulba to get him to 'own up' to it being aread. All he did was respond to me to state that he -woulkd- wagon you if you were a thing.

[AngryPidgeon]

well, he did claim not to be able to read me just now. Which doesn't line up very well with the post you just quoted where he said he'd switch to us in a heartbeat, now does it?

I can easily see that coming from town.

Because the only reason he said he doesn't read you well is because you were calling him scum for scumreading you in the first place. I mean, what is he going to say about that, lol. Its not elegant, but I dont see anything scummy.

I DO see you trying to shove an inconsistency case on him over a response he gave when you called him scum purely for misreading you.

[AngryPidgeon]

Speaking of inconsistencies, ffery is still voting for Alpazard. If that vote is still being useless in the next 10 minutes, Im turning ffery into a Hated until death do us part.

[AngryPidgeon]

bulba not letting you fight his fight for him

Null

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(neither scum nor town tell)

nullville

nada

bullshit
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Object o = null;

return null;

perror("You cant actually believe this is a towntell, the actual fuck");

[AngryPidgeon]

Pardon me, I didn't realize you think scum-bulbazak is a complete dumbass, incapable of coming up with the most rudimentary defenses to such accusations as

"You are scum for scumreading me and having modded a scumgame of mine" to which "I didnt read the game" would have been a valid defense".

God damn bulba, are you really that SHIT at playing scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we lynch Vezok FFS. Today ended like 4 days ago.

[AngryPidgeon]

Enough with the lynch impatience that paradoxically tries to shift the momentum from PV back to vezok.

There are about 24 hours left before I just start blatantly sheeping the largest wagon.

So whatever floats everyones boat.

[AngryPidgeon]

I still don't get why people consider controlled vig kills any different from lynches. Ever. But they do.

[AngryPidgeon]

Fair enough. Rubicon certainly lurked away all the towncred I was willing to throw at him.

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I still think that we should not specify all three people who everyone votes, so that we can try to use it as a targeted vig for one person that everyone votes.

Except the Mafia could have a Baiter that protects a player from it every night or some shit. So having 3 good targets makes for a good back up.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't like the way you're trying to strong-arm this.

Hollow attempt to save buddies from NK mechanic noted.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im a 3rd party lyncher for you, but it HAS to be by the zombie horde.

[AngryPidgeon]

Maybe if you'd scumread GIf a little I could townread you.

[AngryPidgeon]

you and your buddies I mean

Ya, Im the encryptor.

I'd appreciate it if we just lynched all my goons first.

P-edit: I didn't like his reponse to Majiffy saying "Vezok isn't even trying to hide his alignment anymore". He actually asked Majiffy a question about that "why would I have to" (to no end) instead of just saying hes town or Majiffy is dumb. Reads like someone trying to imply they are town since apparently Majiffy just calling him scum went over his head, I don't get it.

his opening vote on Rubicon was uninspired.

His case on Majiffy was fairly nonexistent and overdetermined considering that as Majiffy pointed out.

Nothing he has done looks town.

Jumped on me and tried to connect me to Majiffy at one point when I voted him. (OMGUS, connecting me to Majiffy for no real reason).

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey AP do you still think im scum or what you havent mentioned me in a while

I think you're town ish but I would never admit it because I don't have a sold reason for thinking it other than I like your majiffy and vezok reads.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ya I still maintain there is exactly 1 in [gif ffery].

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: peregrine

Sheep mode engaged. L minus 2

[AngryPidgeon]

Vezok obv.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: vezok

OK

[AngryPidgeon]

As much as I want to not believe the Vezok claim, my brain tells me its from town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Vezok is conftown

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Sekai

Cause Im a rebel.

[AngryPidgeon]

What makes you think more people have the role?

(Holding off on commentary for now, but I can think of at least one good reason to believe this claim.)

Ugh. If I were motivated, Id go extensively mod meta Venmar and see how his fake flavor usually goes. But I -think- this claim from Vezok is legit.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we reconvene on the Alpaca lynch? lOl

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: PV

L - 1?

I'll likely be flippant and change my submits around because Im speshul.

But I sort of trust Vezok for flavor reasons.

Too many people are getting cleared for flavor/softclaims and my reads are becoming a mess. I guess Im ultimately ok with a submit on RC. SCB is someone Id like gone at this point independent of their alignment. I sort of think Majiffy is gonna end up flipping scum. Id talk more about ffery/GIF but hopefully ya'll will come around eventually.

[AngryPidgeon]

You're also not a special snowflake

Oh no, that was a softclaim.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Thor: The VC says you are already voting PV.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok? I was just bringing it to your attention lol.

[AngryPidgeon]

WELP.

PV is even more town than Vezok. What do.

Can we lynch DGB or are people too busy being her bitch?

[AngryPidgeon]

Alternatively Id wagon that shit out of Dopog because PV is town and I sorta trust him more than my self atm.

[AngryPidgeon]

If Pere flips scum she is a provably bad choice.

Because...? She hopped on after he was ALREADY a popular wagon? Ok.
Also PV is going to flip town, proof: the above post is a townclaim.

P-edit: In the sea of bullshit that is going on, PV is ACTUALLY towntelling. Its the first townread Ive felt GREAT about in forever.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Dan

[AngryPidgeon]

Except that he actually doesn't really say anything in that post.

He said everything he needed to. His tone is 100% town. His attitude, his perspective, both 100% clear. 100% town. (I also was never scumreading him so its easier for me to see this?)

The indigence, the annoyance, the blatant trolling and lack of care about being lynched. All town. Especially from PV.

Vezok is proooobably town but only because of the flavor claim pending me actually going and looking up Venmar modmeta.

Dan is an excellent compromise lynch today.

[AngryPidgeon]

If I learned anything from Switchboard Mafia, its that plans get discussed during the Day and then everyone does whatever the fuck they want anyways at night.

[AngryPidgeon]

WE'RE LYNCHING DAN, GRAB MY HAND IF YOU WANT TO LIVE.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bulba tell me what else I am being called so you can get comf town status.
It starts with H.

You do not start with the letter H unless there are multiples of the same infected

Urgh, mastin what do you think of this post?

[AngryPidgeon]

Looks like Pere has suddenly stopped trolling

I thought about trolling, or trying to scumhunt with words that no one will read.

I've decided to do both.

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh fuck. Actually Dan is probably town for that soft claim. Now Im the troll.

[AngryPidgeon]

I need a god damn hazmat suit to wade through all these softclaims.

Dan can you give me a sign of some sort? I don't know who else to wagon except Sven at this point lol.

[AngryPidgeon]

Weren;t you going to clarify Pere for me?

I never said I would and Im not sure what you want me to say.

His post reads very town. Very much unlike scum PV in this game http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=34150 if you are into meta reads.

He did absolutely nothing to stop himself from being lynched in that post. Just offered up some words that he could faal back on later as an "I told you so" sort of deal. That isn't scum motivated. If hes scum, he just made a godlike post. No offense to PV, but I find it much more likely that hes actually town and actually annoyed at the chaotic state of the game and his wagon formation.

His flat refusal to offer a nice packaged claim or reads on his way out or "you'll be sorry!!" (although that was implied) strongly looks like someone who doesnt care if they are lynched at this point.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well, vezok explicitly said that multiples of his role could exist, and I buy that.

No, they clarified that Vezok and Dan are claiming different things.

I really think I buy Dan's softclaim though.
I'd feel better about this ^ sentiment if Dan would get his ass in this thread and say something to me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Alpaca/GIF/Ffery/Majiffy/SCB are all good scumpicks I think.

[AngryPidgeon]

If you're claiming to be an infected That Starts with The Letter h than yes I do know what I'm talking about

If you're claiming to be an infected That Starts with The Letter h than yes I do know what I'm talking about

I already claimed Boomer. Please pay attention.
What starts with H is my role.
Are you just scum or very very bad town?

Oh well nvm mind then

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: SweatingChessball

Cause paranoid waffly AP is finally here. I am a monster created by all of you and you all deserve me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Four people have crumbed/claimed that role. Precedence is hardly a differentiator.

What?

Mastin, Sekai isnt getting lynched Today. Even less so than DGB.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Ok, help me wagon DGB while you do that tia.

P-edit: I've tried, its not happening.

[AngryPidgeon]

This is the game you've chosen for subverting your scummeta isnt it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Who else claimed Boomer other than Vezok?

[AngryPidgeon]

Because flavor is being used as a reason to clear people (by me, largely) and looking at claims and when they happened could influence my opinion ion the setup and validity of claims.

[AngryPidgeon]

Who else claimed Boomer other than Vezok?

How on earth is it beneficial to town for me to answer that question? Suffice to say that I have actually been reading the thread closely enough to kno' fo' sho'.

Town.

lmao, this is the dumbest read.

[AngryPidgeon]

Because scum players NEVER try to look pro-town by opposing things like claims and all that. Fucking WOW ffery. Get your shit together this game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Your read on Aegor for that post is terrible.

I dont care whether or not you did the necessary research to figure it out.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Not necessarily.

Stop trying to bait claims though.

Dan can you get in here and tell me if you are feeling me or not.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'd lynch mastin arm if there were a wagon. My list looks kinda like.

Won't lynch right now: Zdenek, vezok, dan?, pv, thor, molla
Rather not lynch: bulba, pidgey, rubicon, nero, aegor.

Everyone else I'm open to compromise lynching I think. Phone post.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well ok never mind.

Not sure what to make of dan/vezok claims. Townish I guess. Mastin seems like most protown lynch

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: mastin2

[AngryPidgeon]

Why the mastin2 lynch is protown and we should all vote it up:

1) mastin has played intentionally scummy which makes it difficult to get an RVS read on her and allows her to coast to later in the Day on a flimsy excuse. This could be from town, but its anti-town if so since mastin has obfuscated reads on the slot.
2) There are plenty of people scumreading mastin. Mastin is never going to get NKd anyways so we may as well get this over with.
3) Nothing mastin has done looks extremely town this game. The posts are all fairly forgettable and nothing rings extremely genuine (could definitely be scum).
4) Connections. Mastin's hollow assertions and reads will be a goldmine if she flips scum. Starting with dopog and that really bad RVS prediction.
5) Mastin is making no effort to compromise this game which makes her dead weight.
6) Scumflip from mastin probscums RC imo.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Bulbazak: I see you online. Can I please please please have your vote on mastin2?

[AngryPidgeon]

Thor, if mastin2 gets lynched and flips Mafia, I will sheep you onto RC. I'll get him horde killed tonight.
(This is further encouragement for votes on mastin2 : P)

[AngryPidgeon]

A mastin scum flip would mean sekai no ki prob town, which would be nice.

Meh. I'd rather just powerlynch Dopog/RC after a mastin scumflip and then recalibrate after that.

[AngryPidgeon]

Sven and Alpaca are both probtown after a mastin scumflip though.

[AngryPidgeon]

As grand as that vote (I mean ffery's heart really isn't into her scumgame right now and its obvious), I don't think we can get enough people to vote her?

[AngryPidgeon]

why dopog?

Especially the first one cause you don't really seem to want to follow up on the vote.

Bulbazak votes mastin and Dopog tries to imply Bulba is scummy for not following up on it. Weak distancing from mastin w/o really discussing mastin himself.

Not really seeing redcoyote just getting townread out of the wall, especailly inner circled by AP if reasons are same as @ this post

Doubts RC town but doesn't really follow up on this either. (This is a dopog/RC connection but meh, Im selling them as a trio).

Basically he never mentions mastin2 all game except to call Bulba scummy for not pushing her.

--

Meanwhile, mastin2 calls dopog a mislynch in RVS and then keeps trying to floata dopog townread all game and dopog doesn't even raise an eyebrow in mastins direction.

[AngryPidgeon]

Should note that I'm faking hydra dissonance about AP. Pie has some opinions that I want to share to look town, but I wont let him actually post cause people are scumreading him properly.

AP is the biggest centerpiece of our fake hydra dissonance so I will arbitrarily compare him to Wisdom and keep calling him probtown.

Keep calm and lynch mastin.

I only actually have 3 scumreads and I hope to have even less before the end of the Day. Im waffling on Thor in order to make him look sketchy when I end up getting lynched and flipping mafia.

:thumbs up:

[AngryPidgeon]

5 more masin votes for a scum lynch. RC will bus when he gets back so really only 4.

[AngryPidgeon]

So why the heck are you wagoning me when you yourself SAID that we don't share the same alignment?

Misrep/lie.

Reality:

with sekai's and GIF's reads on me in particular. Their townreads on me made zero sense

Yes distance from your teammates on your way out the door.

This is the game you've chosen for subverting your scummeta isnt it.

[AngryPidgeon]

@AP: we need to talk. You gonna be online in an hour? - I'll be home then

You can't escape me. When I want you, I will find you.

[AngryPidgeon]

Your attempts to distance from RC were pretty good. I'm not sure what your angle has been this game, you might be a godfather or something?

[AngryPidgeon]

For the love of god.

[AngryPidgeon]

FTR, quoting Alpaca's ISO and saying that all the posts in it are all town does not make your rolecard and less mafia aligned.

Alpaca, vote mastin plz.

[AngryPidgeon]

f I were a scum godfather, you can bet your ass the scum would be trying to save me. Not condemn me.

Oh, so you ARE being bussed? Sekai and ... Majiffy?

[AngryPidgeon]

Too obvious. You've been too blatant with Alpa and Sven for them to be mafia. Your whole shenanigans about the Vezok/Sven/Alpaca wagons was pretty much air and false dichotomies. Probs all town wagons. Majiffy is the only possible scum of the early competing wagons.

[AngryPidgeon]

mastin is totally town. Count me out.

This is a scum-driven wagon if I've ever seen one. I am ashamed of any townies riding it.

This is scum if mastin is actually town.

[AngryPidgeon]

My ONLY concern about flipping town today or tonight is worry that town dumbasses will lynch GiF tomorrow.

UNVOTE

Wow, good job dismantling the mastin on wagon. Fucking wow.

Yes you are being determinedly useless we get it, now revote mastin plz.

[AngryPidgeon]

^You want scum manipulating?
THAT post by sekai is scum manipulating.

Get your head out of your ass, AP.

Yes, no shit, she starts a wagon on you and then tries to dismantle it. Scum. With you. GG.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't give 2 shits, please be useful and help me lynch mastin.

[AngryPidgeon]

I feel like Im beating my head against a brick wall.

[AngryPidgeon]

Yes, slumdog?

[AngryPidgeon]

Unfortunately my phone is pretty low batteries, otherwise I'd talk at you from the gym. Im gonna bounce from the office at any moment.

[AngryPidgeon]

Well don't keep me waiting.

[AngryPidgeon]

FTR, if you are actually trying to scumhunt me right now, don't. Waste of time. Im never getting lynched, Im claiming non-VT. Im dead before endgame by NK 100% guarantee.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, Im going to try to talk about my feelings then.

For the past 5 hours, I've been pretty happily settling on a mastin2/sekai/majiffy/you/RC scumteam and have been confbiasing about it a little. I've in general felt pretty damn lost in this game. I think I feel pretty good about my last list of Don't lynch / rather not lynch people.

I'm not 100% sure mastin will flip scum, but there is a shot. Im not buying the AtE from mastin. Its something I'd expect from her either way. In fact, I'm pretty stunned that mastin is so opposed to being lynched when I know town mastin will often admit fault. I think mastin is the

correct

lynch, even if town which I have made clear. That mastin has ignored that part of my platform makes me feel even better about the lynch.

Sekai is probscum for being upset at me and then dropping it regularly and picking it up again later. Also she STARTED the mastin wagon and listed mastin as ONE OF THREE scumreads and is now getting coldfeet about the ewagon? Not even? Shes trying to act like its all my wagon when its just as much hers? Weird. Fucking weird. I hope you are scum ffery cause you suck at actually opening up to people if you are town here, and Im p sure thats not normally the case.

I feel like most of the wagons have been on town today which is why the game has been derping around.

P-edit: Why. If we aren't doing mastin, can we do the Scumball or RC?

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AND WHAT DO YOU THINK I FEEL LIKE?!?

A human?

I don't see why you think its so outrageous to think you/ffery could be a team. You know damn well it would be silly to never switch up your scumgame. I think you distancing from a buddy or 2 is not so fucking bizarre/unexpected that Im dumb for suspecting it.

I dont think ffery expected the wagon on you to explode like it did which is why shes acting all dumb suddenly.

She could still be town and you scum if I AM wrong about thw 2 of you, so? You haven't posted anything outrageously town. I have a growing list of people I'd rather keep alive (undead, rather) and you aren't really going to make that cut this game.

FWIW, if people get an RC or Scumball wagon going, I'll vote one of those up but Im not starting another wagon at this point. I'll be back in a couple hours.

[AngryPidgeon]

are we going arround til someone claims scum

www.youtube.com/watch?v=936XLcBJtOs&t=0m30s
UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Red Coyote

So help me god if mastin doesnt vote RC in his next post I am going to slap someone.

[AngryPidgeon]

Only vezok afaik?

Pidgey is very probtown.

Townblock:
Thor, pidgey, bulba, Aegor, zdenek), molla, me. That's 7/22.
Probtown: PV , vezokpiraka (claim), dan (claim).
Mehtown: sven, nero, toogeloo, alpacasaur, rubicon.

Scum heap: RC, Chessball, mastin, sekai, gif, dopog, majiffy,

[AngryPidgeon]

Cause ffery is either scum or being a complete derp this game.

Has 3 scumreads.

One of them is mastin. Dissolves mastin CW whilst QQing about mastin.

One of them is Thor. Wants to talk to Thor in order to resolve this one.

Dear god.

[AngryPidgeon]

Have people started stealth-town-reading Majiffy or is he just slipping through the cracks?

Rubicon
ChessBall

seem universally solid.
RC? Majiffy? I wouldn't mind GIF, but he seems less of a read for most people.

[AngryPidgeon]

How about you own up to the points I made in 1930 then?

Fair is fair.

[AngryPidgeon]

Angry as I am at Mastin, I can see some town in his reach-out to you.

Except she would do that as either alignment. In fact reaching out to me is something I tend to associate with SCUM mastin more than town.

I said nothing about talking to Thor.

Also, before day closes, I hope to have a better grasp of Thor's posting. I'm offput by his focus on the town nks and the way he's trying to shape the three submissions, but there are other things he's posted that I feel are kinda towny. Some distance and review may change that read.

Ok whatever, same idea ^

The wagons she's derailed or derided don't make sense from a scum perspective.

Uhhhh, ok? She hasn't been at the forefront of swinging wagons around. Shes been showing up after the momentum is in place already and going with it. So IDK why you are seeing super town motivation here.

[AngryPidgeon]

Seriously, AP. Sekai, GiF, and Majiffy are all in my scum pile. RC's such a weak townread that he could easily go there, too. The only players in my scum pile not in yours are Rubicon and Sven, both of which are my weakest scumreads anyway. WE. HAVE. ALMOST. THE. EXACT. SAME. READS. Yet you're calling me scum anyway. You know better than this. I know you do. What the hell's wrong with you?

Because your posting can quite easily come from scum this game. The last post is a prime example. Cheer lead some wagons half-heartedly, assert that you aren't playing to your scummeta, buddy up to me.

Its like scum-mastin to a T. And nothing you've posted is convincingly town at this point and you, like me, are one of the players that SHOULD necessarily be read by "town = town", "Meh = scum".

FWIW, I mstarting to suspect its GIF over ffery again. GIF is being fairly controlled/cautious. Ffery is...holy shit this game, but in a way that DOES feel slightly too blatant to be from scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

You (and mastin at times) have hypothesized a scum team based in part on my actions, which is why I think my flip will force a reset.

Nope. Not really going to change my reads much. Will suspect GIF even more probably will be the only difference. Mastin as well. I'm not pretending my reads are LOLAMAZING this game and have hinted as much throughout the game. You flipping town will just make me and keep shoving the people in my scumheap.

[AngryPidgeon]

FWIW, I think Majiffy is my singular strongest scumread. But I'll be damned if I start another wagon Today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Can we lynch RC today?

[AngryPidgeon]

Everybody talking about bullshit and not voting RC is dead to me.

[AngryPidgeon]

You've spent a grand total of zero time pushing for my lynch.

What the hell is your read even based off, anyway?

I know, I feel bad about scumreading you because you've been nice to me and I wanna be on your team this game.

Gut/PoE? nothing you've done looks town (copout answer I know).

[AngryPidgeon]

FTR, mastin's herpaderp about "Well I would be scumreading AP if not for the softclaim" is some shit. Scum motivated shit.

[AngryPidgeon]

@AP - what was the Pidgey case? I'm not crazy in recalling it from that one game as his chronic foot in mouth situation, right? Because that's what I recall. It was like 'oh, Cop said he's town...but he says stuff that doesn't add up, must be a GF" right?

Slandaar actually made a meta case on him that involved him being scum for posting too many f-bombs. Which is retarded because that is just a pidgey tell, nothing else. Im not sure why else that happened tbh.

[AngryPidgeon]

I despise all of you. Im voting whoever has the most votes. Mastin should be lynched sooner than later. RC is fine for Today.

Fucking wow the derp this game.

[AngryPidgeon]

GIF is probably scum too. Would lynch over ffery I think.

[AngryPidgeon]

Aegor get back on RC.

Zdenek, I really don't see what you are on about re Thor not putting RC on his vig list. The list has changed pretty dramatically as claims spring up and wagons change. I don't see the exclusion as likely scum motivated even if thor IS scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Thor is implying that we ar elynching one of Sekai or Dan today and kind of forgets about RC? Thats what it looks like. I find it less likely that Thor purposely is ignoring the RC wagon and more likely that hes just personally more interested in other people.

Not saying this makes him town, but I really don't see explicit scum motivation behind him
a) trying to game the mechanic
b) swapping RC off his list for other people

[AngryPidgeon]

@ZDenek: Im not really willing to talk about people unless they are lynchable in the next 24 hours (Thor is not) so if I am alive tomorrow (unlikely) I'll talk to you about him then.

[AngryPidgeon]

I see scum motivation in being more interested in personally directing the night mechanic than in who gets lynched today.

Its to the same end though, so I dont. There is also potential town motivation behind it so its really not a tell at all.

[AngryPidgeon]

By the by, dopog is actual scum. Mastin is probs. RC meh, but its happening. If ffery is town, then GIF is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

[AngryPidgeon]

ITT dopog lists Nero Cain in his "strong town" tier and people wonder why I've been calling this guy scum for the last 20 pages.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also his null-mafia read on RC is AWESOME SAUCE. When RC flips town, we power lynch this trollscum.

[AngryPidgeon]

We should have killed mastin goddamn.

I know pidgey, I know. Mastin's play has become more obviously from scum as the Day goes on.

[AngryPidgeon]

If ffery is scum with mastin, I will applaud them. If ffery is actually town then wow.