Hmmm, if I had to put two people into the no-lynch arena today, as of right now it would be Tim Howard v. Kanye.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:24 pm
by Shadoweh
Finally caught up. I wasn't expecting that need before my first post, yet here we are. Since Lambda isn't inclined to tell you, I will: Her ability starts a Haiku Contest. I wouldn't stake Day 1 on the quality of poetry. Unless it were between Sixty and Plum, who I would trust to make beautiful prose.
Venmar wrote:Yeah, everything Sangres has been saying this game feels out of tune for his town meta and feels forced.
Vote: Sangres
This is wrong and you should feel bad. If Nacho is the one posting, and although I'm unfamiliar with the other head's style I have some faith in my ability to recognize it as him, I would use words such as obvTown and never getting lynched to describe him, not forced. Try again.
I'm aware voting sangres has been something of a trend this early Day. I'm attributing it to early loudest voting syndrome.
Katsuki's posts aren't interesting enough to vote. In point of order this game could already use more posters posting less. (I wanted to vote Nero Cain for this reason at first. Seeing his name in color is disappointing. Why the heck is he blue anyways? The town color is Heart-Attack On First Read Red.)
Tonally I have a strong town read on LLD, and a fairly strong one on Cerulean and sangres. I might have a stronger read on Sixty if ty were bulleting a scum list to me. :goodposting: about reactions from someone you think is Town aside, the only scumread is a throwaway line about Howard being boring. Which he is, but it's a lame reason for a vote.
Wow, wallposting while not rambling is fucking hard, how do people even do this? I don't care to vote anyone yet and if you don't like it sucks 2 b u. I don't have a read on most everyone else, half because I've never played/read F-16 games so I don't know why people have a Townie boner over them, half because 85% of the game is three people and a bunch of people still haven't posted yet. Likely they are staring at the "Page 9" tab while trying to slit their wrists with their keyboard. Speaking of things to slit wrists over, I give my role a 1/25 of a Voyeur rating, with a pending 1/50 drop if this goes how I expect it to.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:28 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:Finally caught up. I wasn't expecting that need before my first post, yet here we are. Since Lambda isn't inclined to tell you, I will:
Her ability starts a Haiku Contest
. I wouldn't stake Day 1 on the quality of poetry. Unless it were between Sixty and Plum, who I would trust to make beautiful prose.
Venmar wrote:Yeah, everything Sangres has been saying this game feels out of tune for his town meta and feels forced.
Vote: Sangres
This is wrong and you should feel bad. If Nacho is the one posting, and although I'm unfamiliar with the other head's style I have some faith in my ability to recognize it as him, I would use words such as obvTown and never getting lynched to describe him, not forced. Try again.
I'm aware voting sangres has been something of a trend this early Day. I'm attributing it to early loudest voting syndrome.
Katsuki's posts aren't interesting enough to vote. In point of order this game could already use more posters posting less. (I wanted to vote Nero Cain for this reason at first. Seeing his name in color is disappointing. Why the heck is he blue anyways? The town color is Heart-Attack On First Read Red.)
Tonally I have a strong town read on LLD, and a fairly strong one on Cerulean and sangres. I might have a stronger read on Sixty if ty were bulleting a scum list to me. :goodposting: about reactions from someone you think is Town aside, the only scumread is a throwaway line about Howard being boring. Which he is, but it's a lame reason for a vote.
Wow, wallposting while not rambling is fucking hard, how do people even do this? I don't care to vote anyone yet and if you don't like it sucks 2 b u. I don't have a read on most everyone else, half because I've never played/read F-16 games so I don't know why people have a Townie boner over them, half because 85% of the game is three people and a bunch of people still haven't posted yet. Likely they are staring at the "Page 9" tab while trying to slit their wrists with their keyboard. Speaking of things to slit wrists over, I give my role a 1/25 of a Voyeur rating, with a pending 1/50 drop if this goes how I expect it to.
I don't know what you're taking about
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:29 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
(Note: Even if it starts a Haiku contest, I'm still the person who makes the final and only vote.)
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:33 pm
by Shadoweh
Remember how bad
The haikus submitted were?
Why would you want that?
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:34 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Here's a thought, maybe Nero's name is blue because his fanboy thing is one of the skittles who has a blue name and ICs a lot. I wonder who that could be~.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:36 pm
by Shadoweh
I'm pretty sure he's Thor who won a Best IC scummy? Not that I would be flavorgaming or anything.
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:41 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
No?
I'm thinking he's probably Kublai Khan?
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:54 pm
by Katsuki
Thor replaces curse words with smurf or something.
CHEEKY SCUMSUKI COULDN'T FUCKING RESIST COULDN'T HE
YOU FEEL SO FUCKING SMUG OVER THERE WITH YOUR "OH IM SCUM I AM GOING TO MANIPULATE EVERYONE HUEHUEHUE" BUT I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU SCUMSUKI
RIGHT
FUCKING
THROUGH
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:04 pm
by Katsuki
YOU SEE NOTHING
ALL YOU SEE
IS YOUR OWN [REDACTED?]
THE NOTHINGLESS THAT IS
JUST LIKE YOUR HEART
ITS NOT EASY
BEING SCUM IS IT
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:10 pm
by sangres
I SEE NOTHING BECAUSE YOU'RE FULL OF HOT AIR
I AM FIRE AND I'M BURNING YOU TO THE FUCKING GROUND
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:24 pm
by Katsuki
THE ONLY THING YOULL BURN
IS THE SOUL YOU SOLD TO YOUR ROLE PM
THE ONLY THING THAT'LL BURN
IS THE ROPE AROUND YOUR NECK
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:29 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Enjoi Rope?
Vote: Katsuki
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:30 pm
by Flipping Awesome
So, I was going to wait to run this by Penguin but I felt the irresistible urge to beat Empire to an effort post especially after Nacho already beat me to it so here are my (overexplained) reads as of this point.
TOWN
1) Cerulean [Empire/Tammy]:
Empire jumping in to make posts with poor internet access feels very town especially after Tammy let everyone know that he won't post till tomorrow night/Monday and it would have been super-easy for scum-Empire to come up with a pro-town looking reads list then, and posting at uncomfortable times to get his reads out there is a massive, massive town-tell for him.
Tammy's entrance to the game hit all the right notes I'd expect from Tammy as town and her interaction with Nacho and me solidified this read. I particularly like the boldness in Post 51 in reaction to my post and her Post 77 to LLD and Sangres saying they are unlikely to be partners fits in with my understanding of how she thinks about her reads as town and is completely unnecessary as scum. Tammy, your twitch about me is bullshit though so you better retract it.
I also agree with most of the reads Empire posted in Post 136, I am assuming it's his list of town-reads and I can understand the vote on Tim Howard considering most of what they posted didn't feel overwhelming townish or pro-active. I'll POE and follow up on them at some point. Empire's follow up of telling Nacho that his townread on Tim Howard is lame in Post 163 also feels really confident and unlike what Empire would do as scum.
2) Sangres [fferyllt/Nachomamma8]:
I like Nacho's initial posts making fun of Empire and his ease and confidence in entering the game. I also liked his reaction test in Post 56 and his efforts to sort me felt very town and I haven't seen anything like it in any of his scumgames and I absolutely love the "
you are more obvtown than Tammy
" as it would be much more easy for scum-Nacho to wait to see if I get pressured and whiteknight me for the cred, and I buy that his initial "no read" was to get a reaction and see if he can read me more easily based off of that.
I felt that ffery's Post 28 was more likely to come from town than scum as she knows I can read her better than Nacho and I don't think she'd want to draw undue attention there especially after Micro 252 where I initially scumread scum-Sangres based on her posts and Nacho came in and changed that to a strong townread.
Nacho's reads list in Post 99 made a lot of sense and I agree with most of it and not in a "politically correct" way with the right reasons but more of pointing out things that I initially missed and skimmed and came to agree with upon a re-read and it matches with his "
F-16, where did you go
" in Post 97 as it looks like he wanted to sort me and I like his wanting me to meta-dive so he can read other people (but that's probably because I love positive attention). I guess I might be conf-biasing this read a bit but I can
feel
it that Sangres is town and I want them to be town and I think that they are town and Cerulean also townreading them takes away some of my paranoia.
3) Lady Lambdadelta:
Her role and the way she outed that role makes a lot less sense as scum than town and I agree with Nacho's point about it. I can see the town motivation for wanting to inform players about what will happen in the event of a no lynch whereas if she was scum, it would be much more optimal play to hide it. While it is possible she could have outed for towncred, I think she as scum would be perfectly capable of looking town and wouldn't need to use her role in a sub-optimal way.
The "Oh, fuck why?" response in Post 69 felt town because Nero's IC post came across as somewhat awkward and I thought that she would jump on it if scum but I guess it is partly colored by my expectations that Nero may be an easy target for scum to push. I like that tonally, it came across as restrained. I am not too confident on this but I overall read LLD as town so I am decently confident about my townread.
4) Nero Cain
Nero Cain's aggression towards Katsuki felt natural and relatable and his aggressive vote at Nacho calling him "scumcho" also felt like very townie aggression and reminded me of the way his hydra went after Bert in NY169. I'll probably check later on how he makes pushes as scum to be more certain but it overall came across as very carefree and unconcerned with appearances.
Nero's attempts to crumb his role felt natural and his wanting to give as many clues about it in Post 67 and Post 74 felt very genuine and at the very least definitely like he was crumbing a real role as opposed to a fake-claim. While it isn't impossible that it is his real role as scum, I figured scum would want to keep more options open for later on in the game and Nero Cain doesn't feel like a player who would want to aggressively crumb this early in the game.
5) Zdenek
I can see where Zdenek is coming from with his vote on Katsuki in Post 89 and I was mildly concerned with Katsuki going with the flow and attacking Sangres and I like that Zdenek responded to it with a vote. From what I've seen of Katsuki as scum in Death Note where I was town and in Anything Goes which I spectated, he does tend to bandwagon, predict the flow of wagons and often hops on at opportune times and I was concerned with him voting Sangres as their wagon picked up.
Zdenek also makes a good point in Post 90 about not no lynching in MYLO because it makes sense to wary of it if she was scum.
Zdenek's questioning of Nacho felt like he was exploring a genuine misunderstanding and his wanting to change pace with Tierce felt vaguely townish and his overall posting feels reasonably genuine and town motivated.