Tales of You (Abyss Neighborhood)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

NACHO, why are you not giving me your reads on AP and Penguin?

You've hydra'd with Penguin before so you know how she thinks about her reads and her play and you should know she's scum here right?

I mean, her town game is spot-on, analytical, and resonates a ton. Her scum game is manipulative, hesitant and opportunistic.

Are you seeing what I am seeing regarding why Penguin is massively scum here?

It didn't take me more than 3 posts to figure that out. You were there with me in Wicked and Cowardly Hider when I pointed out why I thought she was scum in Cowardly Hider. You know how I read her game because I wrote that long-ass wall in Wicked.

Please read over Penguin posts to tell me whether I'm wrong. Also, AngryPidgeon. He's guaranteed scum, isn't he?

Those two, I am sure about. I just hope you are not the third. As to the fourth, I have no clue.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Can you deal with AP?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Anyways, I want to tunnel the crap out of AngryPidgeon tomorrow. I want to see how Nacho reacts. I want to see how Tammy reacts. I want to see how Penguin reacts. I want to see how Brian reacts. I want to see how Ceph and DV react. I want to see how Ffery reacts. That's all I need to figure out who the final remaining two scum are.

I am not certain that I will win the battle but I am certain that I will expose them all.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

What are your reads looking like at this point?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, what are your list of reads looking like?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

As for Tammy, I won't bank the game on it and I need to talk to her when day starts to figure it out.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, why are you ignoring this thread and all my questions?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, I looked through PV's interactions with AP and nothing in it suggests that they aren't a scumteam together. However, I want to see how PV reacts to knowing that his top two suspects flipped scum. That should give me a good read on him.

Three reads I will bank the game on: JSU, Yggdra, Cupcake.

No one else is here yet.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

PV could be scum actually: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GtdHruEzcXAh

Look at his advice in the scum QT around post 22:

One good thing to do would be to get into a heated, thread dragging argument with another mafia member.

Positives:
1. The longer they go on, the more both players are read as town.
2. With the flip of one player, the other is massively asusmed town, since scum does not argue like that with scum.

Negatives:
1. If too many town follows you, the player gets lynched. This may or may not be a #2 positive, depending on how contentious the argument is.
2. If the arguments are too vague, the tunneling looks artificial, and can be seen in later analysis.
3. The argument must continue past the first day (big tunneling mistake to drop day1 reads), leaving the same #1 negative.
4. The increased activity increases the chances of being a town-target (cop, etc.)


Anyone here think they can pull that off?

This is what he was doing with AP. Read his ISO here.

I wonder if I am being unfair to Tammy shutting off and derailing her PV suspicion and getting paranoid about her (if so, sorry Tammy).

And hey, remember we had PV as town because he was the scum designated mislynch. Well, we know now that Rancid was town and Mastin was town. What now?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

NACHO

,

I am growing really concerned with you. I asked you for your thoughts about AP, Penguin, and Tammy and apologized. You responded to my apology but not to your reads. I made a case against Penguin and you haven't responded there too. The rest of us talked continuously about Tammy but you gave no opinion on it. I want to hear your thoughts or else I will assume the worst: that you are ignoring me because you intend to push for my mislynch tomorrow because you think you can win and I'll bring out the battlegear and armor, and my sword and shield to fight you to the death. Perhaps Tammy is scum with you and this is the day she intends to blow her cover and mislynch me together with you.

You know I am town regardless of your affiliation. You know I could never post like I posted as scum. You've hydra'd with me in Wicked. So, I am interested to see how you are going to approach a read on me. Thanks for the advance warning though because I am ready for you now and won't be taken aback if you and Tammy unleash the beast to mislynch me and take you guys to LYLO with AP and Penguin.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

BRING IT NACHO. BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Bring in your best Nacho. If you are going to attack me, do it now. Because there is not a chance in hell I'll let you mislynch someone else and attack me in LYLO.

Tell Tammy in the scum QT the same thing.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The more I think about your posts the more they make zero sense. You were scumreading Mastin even as he massively pushed AP. Were you scumreading BOTH Mastin and AP? Did you feel that they were bussing? I was stupid for even thinking it. You never corrected me. You scumread both of them and then you pushed for Mastin's lynch. You said not a word about AP.

Bork was frustrated with AP but he never once voted him. You said you would vote AP D1 but you never pushed a lynch till deadline when he claimed. You never came back to it again.

I do not fucking buy that there is a bulletproof, a bodyguard, a commuter, and a watcher in the same game. That's absolute bullshit and you know it is and you know I am right.

SO BRING IT. I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO
STICK IT TO ME THE BEST YOU CAN
YOU STABBED MASTIN IN THE BACK, DO IT TO ME
AND I'LL STAND UP TO IT LIKE A MAN

Do it, Nacho, Do it, Do it, Do it.

It is you, AP, and Penguin. That much I feel certain about. But who is the last scum? Who could it be? Is it Tammy? Is it ffery? Is it Ceph or DV? Is it Orc? Who is it? I don't know but I'll find out.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, FUCK. That's the worst possible outcome.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Tammy is SCUM

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

SHE JUST FUCKING VOTED ME. I AM NOT WRONG.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Why are you talking to me here rather than the neighborhood?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I just completely lost the ability to type temporarily and she continued pushing me without even asking if I was okay. AP did. She didn't.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, why are not telling her that she's out of her mind if you really are town and think that she's town?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, updated thoughts:

- Still think Katsuki is town but if he is scum, my reads will need a massive overhaul.

- Penguin looks pretty town actually with the "things I want Tammy to look for if I die" felt townish.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

My Cupcake read wasn't entirely based on BRO.

My problem right now is actually AP. The way he played, the way he interacted with me, and the number of times Mastin called him scum are eating away at me. Rancid called him scum too.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well fuck! That went amazingly Desp.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 Lord Business, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry into game)
2 Mac, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)
3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha), who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK) - , who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)
5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn), who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two
6 CupcakePanda, who was Chelsea Torn, Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability)

Town (Strongest->Weakest)

:

1 PeregrineV - As long as he confirms his vig shot, it shouldn't be a problem
2 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne) - TOWN with a side of cute kittens and alcohol
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado) - BRO's reaction towards the end of D1 is still not fake
4 Breakfast With Stalin (Ffery + Beli) - MAYBE TOWN, Tammy says town.
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience) - NotScience obvtowned himself again + I like Brian's posts
6 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV) - DV does seem to put in effort to gamesolve

Scum (Strongest->Weakest)

:

7 AngryPidgeon - CONFIRMED SCUM
8 Nachomamma8 - Near confirmed scum
9 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara) - Scum because role clashes with Rancid and Nacho bussed Orc
10 Penguin_alien - Scum for pushing Mastin, sweeping AP aside and pushing me

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

COULD swap Penguin for Fox Hound or Red Gyarados but I don't think it is likely.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

NACHO, TELL ME WHO THE FUCK THE SCUM ARE.

OR ARE YOU GOING TO SCUMCLAIM NOW?

I KNOW YOU ARE SCUM. I DON'T THINK YOU ARE SCUM. I KNOW IT.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

If it is not Magenta, it is The Fox and The Hound as Muffin said.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Red Gyarados, Fox drops.
I'm also considering not commuting today in case PV shoots me.

1) Why would you want to put your self in the line of a vig kill?

2) Who is your last buddy? I know it is you, AP, and Penguin. Who is the remaining one? Is it Fox or Magenta? I don't think it is Notty.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, I want to believe you are town but your suspect list makes no sense. I can't see how you are not seeing AngryPidgeon as scum with PA/Fox/Magenta as the potential other scum in case you are town.

And yeah, your activity levels have dropped when you were in favorable position except you diffusing the paranoia early D3 but it is absolutely something you would do as scum too. You knew right then that it wasn't going to end in a lynch and you did what you could do to make yourself look better.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

1) Why would you want to put your self in the line of a vig kill?

Because of shit like #2.

Why didn't you kill anyone tonight?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Why didn't you shoot Tammy? She's going to make it harder for you to drive a mislynch.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The Fox Hound posts feel fake on several levels. Like really. I think they could be scum and DV's whole you are scum for scumreading me felt really ridiculous but I don't know if it is scum.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Just posted a thing in thread. F-16, if you're right on Tammy, it'd take major setup absurdity for scum to have a chance of winning at this point.

Really, why? And yes, I am absolutely certain Tammy is town. Like, this isn't the way she plays as scum at all.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I'm willing to bank my reads on you and Tammy but I have concerns about AP being a GF. From that POV, Stalin isn't confirmed BUT I townread Stalin based on my Ffery read so we're agreed there. PV is obviously the vig. I have some paranoid moments about him being a scum vig.

A large part of the problem is that town are just running around aimlessly.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, what are you thinking? That Tammy is scum pushing you?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I don't get why she's reading everyone as scum tbh, I am townreading her more for how much she was genuinely trying to sort people.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

My reaction test is going well. I'll get Notty's and Fox's alignment out of it before I unvote and explain. Tammy might still lynch me for it though.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Here are the people I want to test: PV, Fox, AP, RG.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, please vote me. I really want out of this game. Please.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I'm not giving up. I don't want to be mislynched in LYLO and have the town lose.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I don't want to be obsessed with this game anymore. I just want it all to end.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Cut out the weird gambits because doing weird things when everyone is paranoid is just going to make them rail against you (weird things like "please lynch me"). Stop letting AP get under your skin: your reactions do look a bit fake, and there's no precedent for this type of thing before and so paranoia abounds.

But that's kind of the point of asking to be lynched...

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

And finally, learn how to interact with a much more paranoid Tammy. She hates the game right now, everyone is scum: her read on you will fluctuate to irrational, rational, irrational. You cannot expect her to have the same accuracy in reading you she would have early. You have to thoroughly consider why she's feeling the way she's feeling and respond to her concerns fully. You can't let JSU continue to carry a retarded scum read on her.

I have been telling both JSU and Tammy that the other is town, they are only getting more annoyed, not convinced so I figure it is something they need to work out for themselves. But that turns into a massive flame war in thread.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Replacing out is rude to the mod and no, I'm not going to disappoint.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

And finally, learn how to interact with a much more paranoid Tammy. She hates the game right now, everyone is scum: her read on you will fluctuate to irrational, rational, irrational. You cannot expect her to have the same accuracy in reading you she would have early. You have to thoroughly consider why she's feeling the way she's feeling and respond to her concerns fully. You can't let JSU continue to carry a retarded scum read on her.

I have been telling both JSU and Tammy that the other is town, they are only getting more annoyed, not convinced so I figure it is something they need to work out for themselves. But that turns into a massive flame war in thread.

you need to take the opposite approaches to them.
JSU you can be abrasive with because both are being extraordinarily dumb, but Tammy you have to wean off slowly. Spend a lot of time actually analyzing their play, try to keep emotion out of it for the most part. Look at why objectively there is not a whole lot of scum motivation in what they're doing.

So, why do you think JSU thinks Tammy is scum, and Tammy thinks I'm scum, and she thinks that JSU is scum when it is apparent that both of them are town?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

What about all of my insane 700+ posts that are literally impossible to fake as scum?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

That makes sense. Should I just stop trying to convince JSU/Tammy to lay off of each other because for my efforts, I don't seem to be able to convince them, (JSU finally came around though).

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DV's response to everything feels scummy as fcuk though.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I am not sure how I get out of this mess though. Tammy and NotScience seem overally pretty annoyed with me at this point and they are both super-town and I'll need to work with them.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

You are really not scum, right? I'd kick a chair if you end up actually flipping scum.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Then why aren't you being obvtown?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

He can do next level shit as scum though. What he can't do is obvtown himself the way only town Nacho can.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I mean, calling out a POE pool of who scum is and not having any actual scumreads is so typical scum-Nacho so I dunno. The inspirational posts, I don't think he would fake them for me but are non-alignment indicative.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, he can't push my mislynch without scumclaiming. He has to townread me and let AP and Penguin do it.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, he is going to wait till deadline so he can push a shitty wagon. He obviously can't push me. AP needs to push me. Nacho needs to push some other townie while townreading me. One of them will succeed.

But you say AP is town. Fine, replace AP with Penguin and Fox, same story. They push me, Nacho pushes somebody else at deadline. One of the scum win.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, tell me what you think of Fox and PA?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

JSU, do you disagree regarding DV?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, why have you still not voted Fox?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AP: Your (Actual, no BS) investigate target in your next post with the result you got.

You and I was explicitly told that my role failed.

I don't get this though. What was he told? If his role failed, how would he know that he had targeted Kagura?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Of the three possible targets.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AP's role is super-town. It makes SO much sense. What doesn't make sense is his play.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

female child?

Nag doesn't work on beasts.

What the heck is this though?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AP's character is fucking villain: http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/Calcedny_Arcome

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 Lord Business

, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry into game)

2 Mac

, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)

3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha)

, who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
If they battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If they battle an adult, and win the duel, they can choose whether or not they want to govern the person they gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If they battle a child, the duel ends with either their lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)

4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK)

, who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)

5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn)

, who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two

6 CupcakePanda

, who was Chelsea Torn (female, child), Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability: target one person during the game and have their actions redirected to him)
N1: Targeted MastinSSK
N2: Delayed AngryPidgeon's action

7 Nachomamma8

, who was Arietta (counts as both Child and Beast), Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster was lynched Day Four. (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)
N1: Likely commuted
N2: Likey used a roleblock
N3: Likely commuted

8 PeregrineV

, who was Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf was killed Night Four. (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
N1: Killed Rancid Broderick Drake

ALIVE

1 CarbonFiber

- Luke (Tales of The Abyss, Adult, Male), Town Replica (Miller), + Neighborizer
D1: Neighborize Tales of the Abyss (CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, Nachomamma8, Yggdra Union)
D2: Neighborize Tales of Xilia (Titan, Penguin Alien)
D3: Neighborize Tales of Rebirth (Stalin)
D4: Neighborize Tales of Vesperia (Magenta, PeregrineV)
D5: Haven't taken an action yet

2 AngryPidgeon

- Calcedny Arcome (Tales of Hearts), Town Lawful Commander - Modified Cop (Submits three names, mafia team selects one to get either replica or not replica on, becomes VT after there are nine or fewer players left in the game). On any one night he can enhance his normal ability. He has an airship called Lianheit and on any one night he can also keep his target in jail overnight in his ship.
N1: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Nacho} no result. (Nacho must have commuted)
N2: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Stalin} - Stalin, Not a Replica
N3: Targeted {Stalin, Magenta, and RG} - "Action Failed" (Also used the jail ability which he knows was used on Stalin)
N4: Targeted {Peregrine, JSU, and RG} - PV, Not a Replica

3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado)

- Van Grants (Tales of the Abyss), Instructor Master (Even Night Tracker). Their ability will fail against replicas.
N2: AP visited Stalin
N4: No result on Penguin

4 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne)

- Milla Maxwell, (Tales of Xilia), Town Determined Warrior (Anti-roleblocker). Had to decide before the game started who she was going to attach herself to and can't change it unless the person chosen first dies.
N0: Chose Nacho
N4: Chose ?????

5 Belisarius

- ????? (Tales of Rebirth, Child), Amnesiac Follower - Follows a player and sends results to another player. Checked with Cabd about whether role has target restrictions that weren't made explicit. And the answer is no, that he would make that sort of restriction known to the player in their role PM.
N1: Followed AP and sends result to CF (CF got a message saying that AP did nothing)
N2: Followed katsuki and sent the results to orcinus. Got back a message from the mod that role explicitly failed on night 2.
N3: Followed DV and sent the results to JSU, but got no report
N4: Followed CF and sent the results where???? No Result/Action Failed

6 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

- Ragou, (Tales of Vesperia), Town D1 Self-Governor + Pedophilic roleblock/stop.
N1: AngryPidgeon
N2: ?????
N3: ?????
N4: "Who I targeted last night should be pretty fucking obvious at this point and with the revelation of this role, I don't know how you think RG is lying, or why he would be doing so if he was scum."

7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)

8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)

9 Penguin_alien

Failed Actions/Roles not working as they should be

:
N2: Katsuki's action failed (if AP is town)
N2: Beli's action failed

N3: AngryPidgeon's action failed
N3: Beli sending a report to JSU wasn't received (although not told if their action failed? I think?)

N4: Beli's action failed
N4: JSU got no result on Penguin

As far as accounting for the failed actions go:
1) We know that Nacho probably roleblocked someone N2.
2) Mafia might have multiple roleblockers.

Gonna fill this up when I find the rest.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Actually, Beli was jailed N3 so that's accounted for.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The game DOES make more sense with AP as town. There seem to multiple fucking scumbags among Magenta, Penguin, Fox, and RG. I'd be more inclined to think three of them are scum and one town than two town, two scum because I legitimately can't call any two of them town with any degree of certainty.

That and my role mentions multiple cops. Unless FoxHound or RG claim a third cop, AP and you seem to be it.

I don't care so much if a scum GF wins the game.

AP is probably diagnosed as clinically insane. That will fit with him being town here.

Mastin may be wrong. It is possible.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)

- Tenebrae (Tales of Symphonia, Beast), a flavor cop. Gets the rolename of a player.
N1: Yggdra Union- evolving fonic JOAT
N2: RG- Artist (no, I have no idea what that is, that's why we're shitty)
N3: CF, we were blocked
N4: PV, guess what? Yeah. Our ability did succeed though since someone asked.


8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)

9 Penguin_alien

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Fox Hound can't be roleblocked by children,

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 Lord Business

was lynched day one.
Name of character: Kreed Grafyte
Role Claim: Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker (Possibility of re-entry into game)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Hearts

2 Mac

was Killed Night 1
Name of character: Ricardo Soldato
Role Claim: Town Paranoid Bodyguard (also rolestops target)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales Of Innocence

3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha)

was Killed Night 1 (by vig)
Name of character: Sword Dancer
Role Claim: Town Battleseeker (A modified gladiator)
If they battle a beast, it's a normal gladiate; no modifications.
If they battle an adult, and win the duel, they can choose whether or not they want to govern the person they gladiate (and the day ends in a no lynch)
If they battle a child, the duel ends with either their lynch or the child hitting L-2 (the game returns to normal if the child hits L-2)
Age: Beast?
Gender: (unclaimed)
Game: Tales of Symphonia

4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK)

was lynched day two
Name of character: Ruca Milda
Role Claim: Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, Voteless till 9P
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Dual Gender
Game: Tales of Innocence

5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn)

was killed night two
Name of character: Tear Grants
Role Claim: Town Evolving JOAT
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of the Abyss

6 CupcakePanda

was lynched Day Three
Name of character: Chelsea Torn
Role Claim: Town Modified Delayer, (Has a oneshot magnet ability: target one person during the game and have their actions redirected to him). He says "Nag doesn't work on Beasts" in Post 6016. Not sure what that means.
Age: Child
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of Destiny
N1: Targeted MastinSSK
N2: Delayed AngryPidgeon's action

7 Nachomamma8

was lynched Day Four
Name of character: Arietta
Role Claim: Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)
Age: Counts as both Child and Beast
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of The Abyss
N1: Likely commuted
N2: Likey used a roleblock
N3: Likely commuted

8 PeregrineV

was killed Night Four
Name of character: Yuri Lowell
Role Claim: Town Lone Wolf (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
Age: (unclaimed)
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Vesperia
N1: Killed Rancid Broderick Drake

ALIVE

1 CarbonFiber

Name of character: Luke
Role Claim: Town Replica (Miller) + Neighborizer
Age: Adult
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of the Abyss
D1: Neighborize Tales of the Abyss (CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, Nachomamma8, Yggdra Union)
D2: Neighborize Tales of Xilia (Titan, Penguin Alien)
D3: Neighborize Tales of Rebirth (Stalin)
D4: Neighborize Tales of Vesperia (Magenta, PeregrineV)
D5: Haven't taken an action yet

2 AngryPidgeon

Name of character: Calcedny Arcome
Role Claim: Town Lawful Commander - Modified Cop (Submits three names, mafia team selects one to get either replica or not replica on, becomes VT after there are nine or fewer players left in the game). On any one night he can enhance his normal ability. He has an airship called Lianheit and on any one night he can also keep his target in jail overnight in his ship.
Age: ?????
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Hearts
N1: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Nacho} no result. (Nacho must have commuted)
N2: Targeted {Peregrine, Orcinus, and Stalin} - Stalin, Not a Replica
N3: Targeted {Stalin, Magenta, and RG} - "Action Failed" (Also used the jail ability which he knows was used on Stalin)
N4: Targeted {Peregrine, JSU, and RG} - PV, Not a Replica

3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado)

Name of character: Van Grants
Role Claim: Instructor Master (Even Night Tracker). Their ability will fail against replicas.
Age: Adult
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of the Abyss
N2: AP visited Stalin
N4: No result on Penguin

4 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne)

Name of character: Milla Maxwell
Role Claim: Town Determined Warrior (Anti-roleblocker). Had to decide before the game started who she was going to attach herself to and can't change it unless the person chosen first dies.
Age: ?????
Gender: Female
Game: Tales of Xilia
N0: Chose Nacho
N4: Chose ?????

5 Belisarius

Name of character: ?????
Role Claim: Amnesiac Follower - Follows a player and sends results to another player. Checked with Cabd about whether role has target restrictions that weren't made explicit. And the answer is no, that he would make that sort of restriction known to the player in their role PM.
Age: Child
Gender: ?????
Game: Tales of Rebirth
N1: Followed AP and sends result to CF (CF got a message saying that AP did nothing)
N2: Followed katsuki and sent the results to orcinus. Got back a message from the mod that role explicitly failed on night 2
N3: Followed DV and sent the results to JSU, but got no report
N4: Followed CF and sent the results where???? No Result/Action Failed

6 MagentaTheGreat (Orcinus + Mara)

Name of character: Ragou
Role Claim: Town D1 Self-Governor + Pedophilic roleblock/stop
Age: ?????
Gender: ?????
Game: Tales of Vesperia
N1: AngryPidgeon
N2: ?????
N3: ?????
N4: "Who I targeted last night should be pretty fucking obvious at this point and with the revelation of this role, I don't know how you think RG is lying, or why he would be doing so if he was scum."

7 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)

Name of character: Tenebrae
Role Claim: Flavor Cop, also **can't be roleblocked by children**
Age: Beast
Gender: Male
Game: Tales of Symphonia
N1: Yggdra Union - Evolving Fonic JOAT (no idea why fonic isn't in their flip)
N2: RG - Artist
N3: CF - (they were blocked)
N4: PV - (Ability did succeed)

8 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)

9 Penguin_alien

Failed Actions/Roles not working as they should be

:
N2: Katsuki's action failed (if AP is town)
N2: Beli's action failed

N3: AngryPidgeon's action failed
N3: Beli sending a report to JSU wasn't received (Accounted for by AP jailing Beli)
N3: FoxHound's investigation on CF was blocked

N4: Beli's action failed
N4: JSU got no result on Penguin

As far as accounting for the failed actions go:
1) We know that Nacho probably roleblocked someone N2.
2) Mafia might have multiple roleblockers.

Gonna fill this up when I find the rest.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

About who?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Who do you think is scum there? What do you think of Brian's reaction to my Magenta case?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Holy crap! What the heck is Brian doing? Should we just lynch the crap out of RG?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The two of us, Fox, Beli, and AP would be sufficient to lynch RG.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The whole thing feels fake. Do you want to switch over?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

DEAD

1 Lord Business, who was Kreed Grafyte, Town Sealed Persona-Roleblocker, was lynched day one. (Possibility of re-entry back into game)
2 Mac, who was Ricardo Soldato, Town Paranoid Bodyguard, was Killed Night 1 (also rolestops target)
3 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman + natirasha), who was Sword Dancer, Town Battleseeker was Killed Night 1 (A modified gladiator)
4 MastinSSK (Mastin2 + MafiaSSK), who was Ruca Milda, Town Bulletproof Re-incarnated god, was lynched day two (Voteless till LYLO)
5 Yggdra Union (GIF + Pieguyn), who was Tear Grants, Town Evolving JOAT, was killed night two
6 CupcakePanda, who was Chelsea Torn, Town Modified Delayer, was lynched Day Three (Has a oneshot magnet ability)

7 Nachomamma8, who was Arietta, Mafia Wild Child Beastmaster was lynched Day Four. (Alternating commuter-roleblocker)

8 PeregrineV, who was Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf was killed Night Four (1X Delayed-Flip Vig)
9 MagentaTheGreat (Orc + Mara), who was Ragou, Town Corrupt Governor was lynched day 5 (Oneshot-Gov, Pedophile roleblock-stopper)

Town

:
1 CarbonFiber - Obvtown
2 Titan (Tammy + Ser Arthur Dayne) - Innocent Child
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon + Desperado) - Town
4 Belisarius - Town

Leftovers

:
5 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies + notscience)
6 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir + DV)
7 AngryPidgeon
8 Penguin_alien

It is three of RG, Fox, AP, and Penguin. I think Penguin is basically confirmed scum for how she acted on the Magenta wagon.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

OH! I forgot. AP and Fox aren't scum together so RedGyarados is

definitely

scum. If Cabd put in two scum cops and one town cop, I don't even know what to say.

So, Penguin, RedGyarados. One of AP/Fox.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The problem though is that both AP and Fox have been acting like scum for the entire game.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Actually, BRO and Desp, here's a FANTASTIC idea. Tomorrow, what we need to do is clear if we are both still alive. We wait for RG to vote Fox and Fox to cross vote and not do anything until then. Once they crossvote. We both vote RG and put him at L-1. That leaves just one person that needs to vote him and RG gets lynched.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Me too. I am actually now thinking that Fox are scum so I dunno. Wait for the cross and see what happens.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

BRO/Desp? What are your thoughts looking like? Who do you want to lynch. Give me your final thoughts in case you are nk'd tonight. I think the next day starts tomorrow.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay, Beli is dead so that solves one of our problems.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Okay, it is impossible that Tammy is scum. She is frustrated, she is worn down, and annoyed at how this game played out. I don't even know why you still have any question about her affiliation. I am not 99% sure here, I am 100% sure.

These two reads I will absolutely bank the game on: Just Sheep Us, Tammy. There is no way there is scum here. I know I am town as well. That leaves 3 scum among 4 players (AngryP, RedG, FoxHound, Penguin).

I feel about 99% sure Penguin is scum for the way she voted after I told her that I'd send her flowers. Her magenta read also came out of nowhere. I am at a loss to figure out who the townie is amongst the other three players: AP, RG, Fox.

I do want to lynch Fox first because LYLO with me/AP/Fox is an auto-loss. But with me/AP/RG, there is a good chance we can win.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, AP is a vanilla now since his actions don't work when there are nine or fewer players left.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The role claim is SO believable. I am thinking Fox/RG/Penguin scumteam.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Who do you think is a better vote though? Assuming RG votes Fox and forces them to crossvote?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Yeah, I was thinking more about 3P LYLO. Although if AP is our scum, then I think RG would be a weaker player than Fox and easier to manipulate. I'm going under the assumption that AP is town because well, it just makes more sense that way. How weak his role actually is and the fact that AP likes fake-claiming guilties makes sense with AP-town here. DV's try-hard nature in the game and pushing me by buddying Tammy makes sense from scum and rolecop seems like the most obvious one of the cops to be scum.

Overall, I too feel that RG are more obviously scum but lynching them just delays a scum win as opposed to derail it. But if Fox are lynched and you or Tammy die tonight, me, you/Tammy, and another townie can lynch Penguin tomorrow leaving AP/RG/me LYLO which actually has a chance of a town win.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

You actually think that's a possibility? I don't know who would actually vote you though. I seem like the most likely player for scum to get the final mislynch on so I was trying to maneuver the gamestate to make it impossible. Also, you are a tracker and I doubt scum want more results out there. I guess it is possible they could kill Tammy tonight but the two of us gelled too well and they'd need to break it apart or it could lose them the game (which means killing one of us first, likely you makes sense). They'd probably leave Tammy alive in 5P LYLO and kill her before 3P.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So, I wondered if AP/Fox couldn't be scum together but actually I missed something: Yggdra was a JOAT. So, I might appear as a replica to them. Meaning "all cops" referred to you and Yggdra which makes AP/Fox team not very unlikely at all.

Unless you have anything else to add, I'm going to go ahead and vote Fox. Or I might wait to hammer, not sure what I want to do yet.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

BRO, thoughts?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Done. Vote Fox with me. Can't take the suspense anymore.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

But I am an impatient @$$#0&*

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, it isn't us or Titan which just leaves AP and Penguin. When Penguin gets online, she and AP will quickhammer if RG is town. I think I'm going to head out. I can't take obsessively checking this thread to see what happens.