Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

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I could go Saki but really wish we would go Titus... the titus problem needs to be dealt with

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Like 5 pages ago-

Despite the "this is horseshit defense", Necro is apparently a boring wagon to be on.

Fallback to the scum-Titus lynch.

Vote: Titus

yes, this is the correct vote.

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RACH

VOTE

TITUS

WITH

ME

PLS

this

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@Mala - I don't think you understand what the Necro thing is about if you're asking it to stop. I'm not scumhunting them - if that helps clarify. I also still fail to see Titusscum, give me a short and sweet version? Also, your take on ZZZX would be nice. You haven't even mentioned it I feel. What's up with that?

.

Easy version... scum don't want to hunt so they just park on me. There is no case on me, at all.

you are better then that... tsk tsk tsk...
really weak there... at least you could make it interesting...

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so titus, if you are not scum and you think doublade is scum and could vote saki or xay when doublade is voting say, tell me how that works?

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Again, you willing to provide more than crickets? Or will you face the obvious and vote Doub with me?

I have provided my thinking, and consider you scum based on your town and the differences I have observed. I cannot put into words and give anything objective on the difference, it just is what it is. Once I get you sorted then will take the info and adjust. Now, if you are not lynched today then will take another look. I was tempted to go Saki, but eh. I much prefer it Titus when I got a strong sense that you are town.

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I go from my biggest scumread to my next biggest. Scum can bus. If we couldn't vote a player bc scum was onthe wagon we would never win.

thanks, I will keep that in mind. (even that post had a different tone then what you have done/said before with similar vein)

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sorry been busy, will get to this tonight or tomorrow.

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sorry been busy, will get to this tonight or tomorrow.

When you do, I want to have an intelligent dialogue. What about this game is different than others? Why? How is it alignment indicative?

Also think about the amount of sheepage for an unexplained read.

how can I give you details on something I cannot quantify. As I said there is a whole different tone. the why is because you are scum. Such tone changes come from differences in alignment. I know what your alignment was before, so vis a via... scum here. Folks are not sheeping me, they are voting you for your own reason. This has not been an easy wagon either.

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Really SKOT

Show a post with a reason I can fifght.

Jon you like my wagon really? Mala has just bitched I am scum done no content. Xay is voting me to eliminate someone scumreading him. TD is voting me to save his partner. PV is voteparked and SKOT hasn't provided a single fact. How can you like this wagon?

My wagon us gard to push bc there is not a reason there. I am the fallback mudlynch.

I don't have a reason that you can fight and I know that is irritating for you, it is what it is.

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Skot, there is no reason. Unidentifiable meta is not a reason but a fig leaf.

why I vote and why I suspect is what I suspect. Most of what passes for reasons around here are not reason either it is just harping on shit.
I suspect you, I explained why, it is what it is. This is what I do.

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non clear meta is good magia pkay that is clearly null

your statement lacks clarity... sorry when someone is intuitive like I am sometimes you are not able to give clarity, you just have a sense. Everything is null until it isn't fyi.

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seriously, folks going back to ZZZX...
what is the aversion to Titus scum, seriously?

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Hell guys, if I thought Titus was scum I could have had her at L-1 by now. The people whining about how "hard" it is are also *failing to actually push the case*.
It's derpy.

well good for you... I can only state what I have, and don't give anything about pushing a case. There has not been one "Case" that any soundness to it at all. Not a whit. So you can get someone to follow you on a say so, big whoop. It does not make you right.

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Well that's a scumclaim. If there's not a single case that was sound that includes yours.

It is just too late to lynch you.

see it is posts like this that really makes you scum and is not what I would expect. Everything has been throwing crap against the wall, period.

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Are you going to bus your buddy to L minus 1 SKOT?

I already made my decision on ZZZX. There has been nothing said or done that sheds light on his play to make me think any different. He is not my buddy. But keep throwing your foul shit against the wall as it does continue to cloud matters...

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Ir are you planning to be around at hammer time?

nope got a busy day tomorrow and will be back late.

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Are you going to bus your buddy to L minus 1 SKOT?

How is SKOT scummy?

Not pushing a case beyond ~reasons~ and has lurk a derped throughout the thread. SKOT hasn't had a comment on anything in quite awhile that actually has a reason behind it.

My biggest issue is that it's day 3 and my scum list is practically three quarters of the playerlist...

wow, you are talking like I say anything that qualifies as "reasons" around here. I express my reasons but you disqualify it, because it is intuitive, which is strange because you have an intuitive element to your game missy...
but hey, you are scum, so no surprise really.

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so doublade, you are scum with Titus I see. Nice to know, thanks for that.

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@Titus - I find SKOT's playstyle to be more of a gut based one, so the lack of presented cases doesn't exactly scream out to me as an issue. Hell, Mala and Tiphaine can't even be bothered to describe their case either - or even extract a link or something. Meh.

Thor, she knows that fact. She knows I have a bead on her. What she says is not for my sake but to keep anyone else from listening to me.

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I found skot to be more logic based in the mini theme we played together.

As for Doublade, whatever gets you to bus tomorrow.

seriously- you really were not paying attention then were you...lol

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And the empty discredit...

I also caught the sk day 1...so yeah I was paying attention

just never had someone describe my play style as logical. I do use some logic when I look at things such as Vote counts, but ultimately looking at vote counts comes down to a gut feel as to where the votes landed and what the patterns tell you. At least for me.

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And the empty discredit...

I also caught the sk day 1...so yeah I was paying attention

and an empty statement does result in an empty discredit... so that shot was par

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oh I have no doubt someone will derp-hammer zzzx...
I can dream that a tide will change and folks will wake up and see you for the scum you are, but heh, not banking on it.

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TD, so I only rate neutral off that ey, nice.

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aphix, if you see this before you see me we need to talk tonight, badly. I've seen a couple of things recently and I need to ask somebody if I'm smoking peyote or if my thought bubbles make sense. If my thought bubbles make sense this game just got easy.

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wow, things really slowed down here...
we got 3 days left. I will take a look in the AM...

Whoops. My bad. Fixed.

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willing to check out eddie

vote eddie

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hmm... has jordan followed through with anything from their "grand plan"?
I don't think so
I could be persuaded to go that direction I believe.

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hmm

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still like the vote

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PV has been pretty good this game
I see his point on thor

vote thor

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okay things are getting narrower. 3 scum down 2 to 3 left?
I do not think Saki, or PV are scum at all.
I still think Jordan's claim is full of kaka and they never outlined anything further on their "plan."
I have to stick with my day one probing of Necro and stay with town there... she could be faking things as scum though.
This leave PN, TD, Jon, xaym and Rach and I could run any of those up. I don't have time to sort anything out.
I thought the early pressure on xay was a mistake and coulda been wrong. I want to see what others say right now and don't have time to really look at much else right now.

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Will be out of town, but in case the game goes fast for some reason, please note-

- I have been locked into my current polarity. I believe this is a non-town ability, and I believe that it happens so that the kill can be made. So yes, I am currently set to be tonight's nightkill target.

More when I get back.

sounds like jordan's role to me

vote jordan

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welp...

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I do not like the folks voting perpetual nonsense

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I do not like the folks voting perpetual nonsense

A little more clarification would be nice. My main thing right now, was PN actually ignorant of things? Like his Role PM, my having a PR, etc.? My having a PR is a big one, wouldn't his scum mates let him know that,

if

he was scum? What is your opinion of PN if you don't like his wagon? It

almost

sounds like a Town read, but I'd like to know for sure.

What parts of his wagon are bad? What premise are you disagreeing with? I have you as pretty solid Town, so you can be sure I'll consider what you're seeing seriously.

Are you willing to vote Xayzeck or Jordan?

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who says town is wanting to lynch PN?

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Perpetual Nonsense (4): Jordan_Downey, DrippingGoofball, Jon_h61, TiphaineDeath

what else am i suppose to think

that a counter wagon to Jordan is being pushed-

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sigh... seriously...

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Jordan and then TD Imo...

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vote Jordan

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VOTE: Perpetual Nonsense

seriously, the cop gets killed and you go PN?
3 good ways to go
Saki
Jordan
TD
and you choose PN?

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VOTE: Perpetual Nonsense

seriously, the cop gets killed and you go PN?
3 good ways to go
Saki
Jordan
TD
and you choose PN?

How does this even make sense?

PV stated several times that Saki was bad
He was convinced Jordan was bad based on the way things played out. He knew that by being locked he was bad. Jordan is locking folks so the BGs have better chance of getting a wanted kill done.
TD had pinged PV's radar at the end of the day. Probably was going to be the next view.

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VOTE: Perpetual Nonsense

seriously, the cop gets killed and you go PN?
3 good ways to go
Saki
Jordan
TD
and you choose PN?

how'd you arrive at these three?

reading and deduction

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"we should lynch TD because Pere started to scumread him and he was cop and he was probably going to check TD next so TD is scum"

That's just no

I listed 3 options preferrable to a PN vote. That is all. I cast my vote where I favor the vote to go.

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I pinged his radar before I explained how his case against me was incorrect in every way, I seriously doubt I would have been tonight's target.

heh, the last thing he did was vote you... explaining a case away is foofoo fairy dust imo... at any rate, there are higher value targets...

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actually more I look at it more convinced that Saki is #1 priority

vote Saki

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Looked at PerV's ISO, closest I could find to a crumb would be the Necro thing, but I don't think that makes sense as a cop crumb because of how easily he abandoned it. I think if it were a cop crumb he would've continued pushing there. I would appreciate a second set of eyes, though.

he had plenty to say

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Looked at PerV's ISO, closest I could find to a crumb would be the Necro thing, but I don't think that makes sense as a cop crumb because of how easily he abandoned it. I think if it were a cop crumb he would've continued pushing there. I would appreciate a second set of eyes, though.

he had plenty to say

Yeah, except that none of that looks like cop crumbs. Unless you'd like to point out what looks like a cop crumb to you.

crumbing usually does not go well, you find ways to crumb views, not that you are a cop.

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rach is going to be town... bank it.

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nope, not going to answer to likely scum...

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nope, not going to answer to likely scum...

Bullshit excuse for dodging a question.

Why is Rach town?

shut up scum

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Naw, not where I come from...other than to taunt...
you have proved nothing, just a bunch of blah blah blah blah blah

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seriously, when an investegator has said over and over someone is scum and they end up dead, what I come from that person is turbolynched and we move on. It is really simple. I do not understand the lack of this.

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seriously, when an investegator has said over and over someone is scum and they end up dead, what I come from that person is turbolynched and we move on. It is really simple. I do not understand the lack of this.

"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/

If an investigator expresses his doubts about someone being scum, and opts to pursue another scumread in a process that's (looking from an objective point of view) his own logic and not a guilty he has, AND TO TOP IT OFF HE HASN'T ACTUALLY CLAIMED A GUILTY, please assume that he didn't actually have a guilty.

I never stated he had a guilty. I am saying what his play indicated. You need to be lynched. Simple.

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btw you keep mentioning 'where I come from'

after this game is over please fuck the hell off back to 'where you come from'

never fear, when what I am currently playing in, is over, I am going back to where I come from because the arrogance, group think, and other nonsense that goes on here is really beyond what I can bear, and I have tried. Now that being said, you need to be lynched. You are most likely scum. It is time for you to go.

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oops sorry everyone been a rough few days

I am VT

Could someone besides Saki who is being rather OMGUS explain the case on me?

there is no real case, there are 2 folks on you likely scum...
and yes, this is the claim I anticipated here...

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Would lynch Rach.

Please SKOT do not replace out, you are conftown.

I am not replacing out, I am playing all games out and then outta here...

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vote saki, seriously...
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vote saki, seriously...
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convince me

read Peri's ISO and get back to me
let me ask you this? If a Cop say Player X would be good for a vig shot, what do you think the cop thinks about said player?

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1. Shiny Hydreigon
3. Saki

Are these slots town? 'cause if they aren't then I'm going to policy night action them but if they are town then I'll leave em alone.

Shiny town.
Saki scum.
Shoot to kill.

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What a dumb wagon.

no, your being dumb by not being on it. Read PV's posts. Seriously. Ignore Saki's cherry picking one he can twist. Cop calls a player scum multiple times you lynch that player. Period. You are being a stubborn cuss for not cooperating.

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please, just lynch me then. Either lynch Saki or me as I am absolutely fed up.

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scratch that, got games disoriented. Feel free to run me up though.

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Yeah, so VOTE: SKOT

The Saki wagon is damned terrible. I could be convinced to switch to PN, but SKOT is more likely scum IMO.

so please enlighten me oh great-wise hydra why you consider Saki wagon damned terrible?

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Yeah, so VOTE: SKOT

The Saki wagon is damned terrible. I could be convinced to switch to PN, but SKOT is more likely scum IMO.

so please enlighten me oh great-wise hydra why you consider Saki wagon damned terrible?

The whole. There's no cohesive case. The biggest reasoning I can find for a case is "PerV said he was suspicious about Saki." There is no risk to jumping on this wagon, because you're putting the reasoning of it entirely on the shoulders of a dead player. There is exactly zero reason that PerV's role PM would make his reads any better, and yet you're making the argument that because he was a cop his suspicions that obviously don't have a result backing them up are somehow better.

IKA sheeped you on that shitty ass read. PN voted out of self preservation, which

might

be town, but is definitely not goodvotes. Saki voting himself is almost as expected as the sun shining in the morning from what I've heard.

Especially given the fact that I found PerV's case about as convincing as a kid in a bedsheet on Halloween pretending to be a ghost, I'll stand by my: "It's a shitty wagon." statement.

oh good lord, cases are someone making up whatever it is in their own mind to indicate and convince someone is bad. Please point me to one solid case that is not someone cherry picking or harping on shit. You cannot. Self-voting is Null. I have done it as scum, I have done it as town. When you have a cop proclaiming you as scum, you do whatever is necessary. If you want harp on shit factors outside of the COP SAYING HE IS BAD SEVERAL TIMES, just focus on his lack of engagement until things are thinned out and he is the focus of attention. Sure, you can say that Saki just always does that, the point is still there. The most compelling and sound piece of evidence one can find is a cop role stating more then once that a player is bad. Do I need to count and bump the # of times Peri called him bad, or you just going on the cherry picked quote that Saki is using to defend self. This is just plain outright dumb ass play and you can go on and play pretend making up cases and think you are all that when it is really just conbias and other smoke and mirrors.

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Okay, I was right on TD
Now can we fricking lynch Saki please...

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vote Saki

if he lives another day I will be dumbfounded.

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please can we lynch Saki scum or do we need to see another direction with another town mislynch?

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probably lynched 2 people's polarity.

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linked 2 peoples polarity.

So TD wanted Xay lynched bad- town
TD wanted rach lynched bad
Since we have a polarity linker and switcher Jordan is probably truth telling as locker
I know I am town
DGB and Saki 2 suspects left.
we do have a weird day of 3 kills

we have 1-2 scum left Jordan can still be a liar.
Saki
Jordan
DGB
Rach
Xay
Are order of most to least likely scum, leaving me out as I know I am town.

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oops sorry everyone been a rough few days

I am VT

Could someone besides Saki who is being rather OMGUS explain the case on me?

FYI, someone called for Rach to claim... here is her claim...

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Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

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TD wanted Xay lynched bad for being SK
he was scum sk hunting
that's not 'Xayzeck town' its 'Xayzeck nearly confirmed SK'

TD wanted rach lynched bad is also not 'Rach town'

Titus and Doublade wanted me lynched bad but you call me scum so there's pretty huge gaping holes in your logic

IT took you
THIIIS LONG
TO FUCKING FIGURE OUT
THAT JORDAN WAS TOWN?
k.

You aren't looking for a serial killer
and you took the pain to say "I am town twice"
someone's feeling a little insecure, isn't he?

heh, absolutely no insecurity at all... I have been pretty dead on this game in terms of who is scum when it is all said and done.

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Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

yes, I can think of one. Usually found in most games one level or another and 100% pure town.
2 mafia dead one night, so mafia killed themselves on that night?

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Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

no fucking explanation other than vig-sk-scum

look, there's exactly three people that haven't claimed and I'm pretty fucking sure that they need to die minus me

well then let me tell you what... I know there is a vig, because it is me.
I killed Titus, Ki-Gi, and TD. I also tried to kill Zzzx but my polarity is off. I had thought of killing you based on PV's suggestion but I opted for Zzzx instead. I have no idea who killed Double- as no one has taken responsibility for that kill and it was not me. There is no serial killer.

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so do I vote for Xayzeck or do I vote for SKOT
who's going to have the quickest wagon
they need to be dead NOW

what else is a scum person going to push but this...
now you know who took out most of the BGs and it sure has not been lynches.

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the 2 nights there was not a vig kill was do to polarity alignment issues...

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oops make that 3 I missed a night trying to kill titus...

you will note I rode both titus and zzzx hard right after a miss alignment on the vig.

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1 shot zzzx- off alignment
shot at titus- off alignment
shot at titus right alignment
shot at td off alignment
shot at TD right alignment...

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left KiGi out there
that was after the Titus shot

zzzz off alignment
titus off
titus right- kill
kigi righ kill
td off
td right dead scum

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no way in fucking hell is this a legit claim

yes, it is, keep saying otherwise scumfuck

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I have done the heavy listening, just wish I woulda killed saki when I took a try at Zzzx

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I did think I possibly over-reacted to Jordan's non-sense on day one and figured I painted a neon-sign that I was a GGRP. Fortunately it was only neon to me.

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I'm out
I'm totally out

I better come back to skot hanging from a tree or I'm probably just going to hang myself

guess you are going to hang yourself then...

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nice appeal to emotion by saki though, he is really trying hard...

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oh and if town decides to mislynch me after I did the heavy lifting, then, oh well... it would be par for course. I am satisfied with how I performed my role.

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No he is not, he is scum trying to come off as frustrated aggressive town. Why are being so stubborn?

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It is a scum tell, especially where I come from that scum often excessively focus on some factors that take attention off of them. In this case, the scum team had it in mind that there was a SK (not a vig). So they started talking about it. TD went on and on and on how Xay has to be a SK. Saki comes in today again focused on SK. It is a scum tell. There are related ones to that, but it does happen quite often and is happening here.

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"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/<insert mafia buzzword>

Tip's 180 on me, although I'm thankful for it, feels forced, somewhat
maybe I'm just paranoid

So, question is, is he?

Vote: TiphaineDeath

For 3483 and 3446[/post

]. And if he flips scum we can lynch scum-Saki with full confide

nce.

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oh and DGB after leading the PN mislynch... well you really should sheep here in spite of your declaration of skaki as aggressive town. You clearly have been wrong on some things. Well, unless you are scum partner with Saki...

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I did not say there is no SK as I have stated I do not have an explanation for the 3rd kill that night. No one has taken credit for it. So could there be an odd random player that had a kill that is an indy type certainly. Is there a SK who has always been off on polarity match, perhaps. That is all unknown. It has only happened the 1 time.
As to my "double use of I am town in one post." I post as I think. Sure, you can sell it as manipulation, but it is not and that manipulation really does not work. Everyone calls self town and often more then once. I do it all the time regardless of alignment. I also post as I think. Often times when I post something I inadvertently leave stuff off or repeat my self. I am often redundant.

Oh and the claim that I am strong arming DGB is silly. I am stating my opinion strongly, sure. Certainly not strong arming. However, that post is written or seems to be with the perspective of trying to convince others of a way.

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How can that last sentence be any clearer? Also how does repetition not actually influence people? You do realize that is a big stand by in marketing which has a firm basis in psychological studies. Either it means you are trying to convince others your yourself. Maybe your the unique one of situation of all of man kind but unlikely. Rather you are purposefully trying to be manipulative is to be figured out. Not to mention you pretty much just threated DGB ...

I was clear in my statement. I do not believe there is a SK. As I am responsible for Titus, Ki-Gi, and TD. Now where the Doublade kill came I do not know. It could be an indy, but a serial killer with one kill is odd.
I did not say repetition does not manipulate people or cause any influence. I have stated that there was no intent to be repetitive in my post. I had flat forgotten that I had already stated it as I post as I think. The kind of nonsense you are spewing has been used over and over to lead mislynches around here. The worst kind of mislynch where you actually are convinced something that is not so. And yes, I am trying to convey the truth to others about me being town. So, yes there is persuasion going on. But you suggestion that "repetition" is always purposeful is patently absurd and fails to take into account basic human engagement.
As to DGB, I posed no threat to DGB, any reading threat into it is not related to the words I said. If I am threatening someone there is no room for error, you will know it.

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You pushed a mislynch yesterday. You are scum if you don't help lynch saki today. That is what that says. Period.

No what it says was is simply put. DGB, you pushed a mislynch, listen to me and get off your defense of Saki. Of course if you are scum, keep on defending Saki. Your read of my words is projection and inference.

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heh, I failed to recall a 2nd death on night 2. So that is 2 deaths unaccounted for.

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We know RachMarie is scum, right?

wrong

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I am not voting for anyone but Saki today.
Anyone who is town will do likewise.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

THis is likely my last day alive. I am already resigned to the rest of the town likely to screw things up. I am asking folks to follow my lead here.
Thanks...

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

That sound like a scum claim to me.
Lynch him. No loss.
I am going to do what I think is best. I am not going to follow any plan suggested by someone who could be scum.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

If you are not scum, you are free to lock whoever you desire. I am not going to agree or disagree to do anything regarding my polarity. It is clear what I was last night. So yes, it is WIFOM now and I have a target on my back. Any remains scum have to be thinking also of what I might do.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

good freaking lord
what does it take to lynch scum saki...
I hate this place

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

WTF needs to happend to lynch Saki...
seriously, I hate this place...
good lord...
:shakeshead:

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Let's lynch Rach, guys.

NO!

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Just two more for Rach and we'll have one less scum.

liar

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Here is the deal. I have been right, so called town has been wrong. Listen to me and lynch Saki. Anything else is a mistake of the highest order!

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Do you have a guilty?

I am a vig, where would I get a guilty or innocent. I believe strongly that Saki is scum. The way this has played out confirms it to me all the more. Do you honestly think that when he is at L-1 and with self vote and others sitting by side that scum would not take the opportunity to finish him? Seriously. Everything to my very core tells me he is scum. He would have been long lynched already where I come from as it is that apparent. Please, give me any evidence that you can that may convince me. Self voting is not one of them.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

the only person who has said any thing of substance is of course you...

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

More Rach votes please.

NO!

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

NO!

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

DGB could be scum, he could be the one responsible for the other kills as well. Especially given his play. I feel far more comfortable with a Saki lynch at this point.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

and that should read she, it was a generic he/her, well really I forgot that DGB is a she.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

I have in other games a positive experience with DGB, she is not the same here. Yet, for me Saki is a higher lynch priority.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

okay, I won't talk to you any further then DGB. No conversations with you or saki then.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Oh good lord. Rach is going to be town. Kaiv already indicated that they would hammer rach.
What do you want from me on Saki, seriously.

Right now I am down to BGs between Saki, Kaiv, and DGB...
Rach and DGB are town

People backing off on Saki's claim seriously?

If you were town and had that role, would your play not be such that at some way shape or form you would attempt to draw a kill?
We have the cop identifying several times that Saki was bad including telling Vig to shoot Saki
You had Saki at an L-1 with self vote where there would be some advatage to scum sweeping. Sure some WIFOM elements to work out but given the probable #s here, not much to lose.
But, heh, go ahead finish Rachel I guess and then I have to make a right call as vig to get off a shot and not get killed all at the same time. This decision is dooming the game, but hey, par for the course.
I will have no part of a rach lynch. So in order to get Rach lynched there will be scum advocating this action. I wash my hands.