↑LynxKuroneko wrote:Brantz, you say it feels like town vs town regarding me then that you don't how you feel about me. Do you mean my lynch request?
Yeah, Your play is confusing to me. I am pretty sure you are town, I just don't know how I feel about you being that. If that makes any sense.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:52 am
by BRantz
EBWOP: Also appologies, for the most part that post is a bit stream of consciousness as I read through the thread. So some things in it may be a bit contradictory.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:51 pm
by PurloinedLetter
I don't understand why people are scumreading cask. Brantz and cat, explain please.
Kthx and catastrophe scumreads are definitely understood.
-Tier
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:55 pm
by Catastrophe
↑PurloinedLetter wrote:I don't understand why people are scumreading cask. Brantz and cat, explain please.
Let me guide you back to my readslist, where I gave reasoning for my Cask read.
↑PurloinedLetter wrote:Kthx and catastrophe scumreads are definitely understood.
...nope, I have no idea why you're scumreading us. I can't wait to find out though.
-TSO
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:05 pm
by PurloinedLetter
↑Catastrophe wrote:CaskOfAmontillado (This thing is pretty close to null, really, but I'm just not really a fan of it so far. Make me believe, please.)
↑Catastrophe wrote:Let me guide you back to my readslist, where I
gave
didn't give
reasoning for my Cask read.
Ftfy
I want an explanation. 'I don't like it so far' is not an explanation, that is close to the definition of a scumread.
I more or less scumread you for the fact that your reads are mostly echoed from others and that the only new thing you bring to the table, a medea scumread, is heavily underexplained, again.
-Tier
↑Catastrophe wrote:CaskOfAmontillado (This thing is pretty close to null, really, but I'm just not really a fan of it so far. Make me believe, please.)
↑Catastrophe wrote:Let me guide you back to my readslist, where I
gave
didn't give
reasoning for my Cask read.
Ftfy
I want an explanation. 'I don't like it so far' is not an explanation, that is close to the definition of a scumread.
You didn't fix anything, actually.
That slot is at nullscum because a lot of its posts made me mildly uneasy, such as sthar talking to Krystal about the PR. <--- That is called a gut read. It's a perfectly viable, acceptable and useful way of reading people in Mafia.
But, actually, I'd have assumed that was somewhat obvious - given that, in the initial read, it's clearly stated the slot is closer to null than scum and no specific posts are given (a la Kthx) so it's a general thing. I would find these assumptions pretty elementary to make.
Clearly it was more difficult than it seemed to me.
↑PurloinedLetter wrote:I more or less scumread you for the fact that your reads are mostly echoed from others and that the only new thing you bring to the table, a medea scumread, is heavily underexplained, again.
I am in awe of how stunningly bad a reason this is to scumread someone.
Can you explain the problem you have here? Is it the bit where my reads are the same as others?
I hate to shatter your paradigm of this game - but that's not a reason to scumread someone. It's not even
close.
I have no idea what you wanted here - did you believe that we simply couldn't have the same reads as others, or some other nonsense like that?
Or could it be
many of the reads are the same because they're not opinion-based reads, they're claim-based reads, which are pretty clearly being universally townread?
Did you consider that once? Or did you consider that the Medea scumread, for example, doesn't have a huge amount of content because
we're 8 pages into the game and the hydra is V/LA?
-TSO
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:42 pm
by Catastrophe
That's not even checking out his facts or doing any kind of disprovals - it's possible that nobody had really stated this set of reads before and Tier is wrong, but I don't really care, the post would still be bad enough for me to dismiss.
-TSO
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:19 pm
by PurloinedLetter
Lol, upset much
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:51 pm
by Catastrophe
Krystal, you can vote can't you? And if so, can you try to explain why you haven't voted anybody yet?
--tool
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:17 pm
by Krystal Bald
↑Bookitty wrote:Ha! She thinks [PurloinedLetter] is talking out of his ass! Right?
<3 Krystal
*Smiles and shrugs. Holds hands close together.*
↑Catastrophe wrote:Krystal, you can vote can't you? And if so, can you try to explain why you haven't voted anybody yet?
*Points at herself. Forms two mouths with her two hands. She looks back and forth as the left mouth flaps its trap and the right mouth stays shut. Points at the right mouth, then at her wrist and taps her foot.*
*Points at Catastrophe. Places her right hand palm-up and waits, staring.*
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:31 pm
by Krystal Bald
*Points at CaskOfAmontillado. Taps wrist and foot impatiently. Uses two fingers to imitate a pair of legs and runs them out of the room.*
*Points at Faster Than Light. Smiles brilliantly and gives a thumbs-up.*
*Points at Ghatokaca's only post. Points at the last four letters of his name.*
*Points at PurloinedLetter with her left hand and Catastrophe with her right hand. Does the mouth thing again. Looking at the left hand, she dons a scowl that deepens as the conversation wears on. Then, looking to the right hand, she begins to cheer and even shows the slightest hint of a smile.*
*Points at BRantz. Sits on an imaginary chair and pats his lap, beaming.*
Not much to comment on here. Still dunno how to feel about Catastrophe.
Still feeling how I'm feeling pretty much everywhere. Game slowed down a whooole bunch.
-V
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:30 am
by copper223
mod please prod CaskOfAmontillado
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:03 am
by Bookitty
@Lynx: In your view, is it better not to full-claim your power prior to your lynch?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:03 am
by LynxKuroneko
@Bookitty - I do think there are valid reasons to not give away what it does, at least not this early.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:39 am
by fferyllt
CaskOfAmontillado has been prodded.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:58 am
by LynxKuroneko
Unvote
Also want to say that Policy Lynch's loverize ability (granted we believe them) will most likely be swayed by the outcome of my lynch.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:01 am
by Bookitty
In my opinion, we have only two real choices regarding Lynx.
We can accept that he's town (I think he's town) and lynch someone scummy. I think it likely Lynx will be the nightkill; if that occurs, Lynx says his after-death actions are lost to us. Still, it gives us a better chance of hitting scum today which might be more critical for winning the game overall. If Lynx is a jester, something I don't believe, this would also be a preferable plan.
We can accept that Lynx is town and lynch him anyway to get the greatest value from his after-death abilities. I lean toward this plan because I trust Lynx both to be town and to have the best idea of how his ability will work.
Still not voting him, but I feel pretty certain I will be.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:07 am
by LynxKuroneko
↑Bookitty wrote:We can accept that Lynx is town and lynch him anyway to get the greatest value from his after-death abilities. I lean toward this plan because I trust Lynx both to be town and to have the best idea of how his ability will work.
This makes me happy.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:15 am
by Policy Vote
Popping in to say there may be a solution here that gets the best of both worlds.
Also, I mostly agree with the read lists that have been posted. I think Cask is my top scumread at the moment, but I would want to review before making a definitive statement.
-Ceph
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:16 am
by Policy Vote
Ah, actually, my plan doesn't work. Never mind.
-Ceph
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:18 am
by copper223
Yup Boo's town, can't really say much cause I'm waiting for CoA but I disagree with some thoughts though.
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:18 am
by Bookitty
↑Policy Vote wrote:Ah, actually, my plan doesn't work. Never mind.
-Ceph
I think I was thinking along the same lines but then realised timing is everything