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As opposed to everyone who suspected him D1 and D2?
Because I don't see how elk being lynchbait = Zach and ika must be scum.
You're town reading Anen and Ank?
This is classic scum. FOS buddy (CES) vote town (Regfan)Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Anen thinking myself and ika are scum together is nothing short of comical.
His town read on CES makes no sense either.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Zach, why is CES town?
Who do you think?
↑ ika wrote:↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:This is classic scum. FOS buddy (CES) vote town (Regfan)
yet you were calling the scum team me/ces/regfan?
so what is it BBT?
@annen: im can continue our little funsie later im one break and its my birthday so im gonna have fun.
maybe if your lucky i will come back drunk
Oh dear. You're very obviously not reading. Then again, I guess you don't need to whilst you're able to coast and nobody pays you any attention.
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It doesn't give me pause because I really am convinced you're scum.
There is another reason and I'll share when the time is right.
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Well this game just came to life again.
1623 - Anti, ISO me for why I have been saying ika is scum. I'm not going through the effort of finding it when there is no chance you will join me in voting him. If you want me to vote Anen, show me ika is town. I also have something else a little further on in this post; I'm quite excited about it.
1624 - It has a little to do with ika's productivity. Also to do with a few other things; see if you can find them!
This is gold;
and exactly what I was hoping for when I voted ika. I thought ika was being bussed and I just couldn't see a situation where both Anen and elk were town.
I don't see scum bussing toDay. They don't need to, they're in a good position. As it happens, as soon as the ika wagon actually starts to take off, Anen gets off it in a flash with really weak reasoning.
I think it's Anen/CES/ika.
VOTE: Anen
1629 - ika, please explain your Anen town read.
1630 - How did I remove blame? a) you're not flipping town and b) you think 2 and a half days worth of pressuring you would be forgotten because of...what exactly?
1637 - How does you (Anen) being wrong on ika make me scum? That doesn't make sense.
1) LOLOLOLOLOL - you've 'rechecked' the meta. Are you actually saying this right now? The interaction is now 'entirely' different. Please.
2) My interactions with you are not the same? Can you elaborate on this instead of 'gut' because that's bullshit.
3) You're right, everyone clearly wants to lynch CES. It would have been just fantastic if CES was the lynch; I'll happily settle for you though.
4) Yeah, I haven't pushed ika at all, you're right. I have no business being on that wagon. Well, no business other than catching scum.
1638 - CES, how does Reg not dying point to one of Reg/myself being scum?
It's also funny that you seem to be town reading Anen now. You looked like you had all but voted him earlier in the game (without actually doing so) and now you think he is town? That's just magical.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:But I'm leaning towards BBT-elk-Ank right now.
This hurts my eyes. My eyes are bleeding after reading that shit.
Anti, please, fucking please, look at ika's play this game and not base your read on meta.
1674 - CES, I'm confused. What's your read on Anen?
You seem pretty set on Elk/Ank being scum. Can you elaborate on your reasoning? If you have done so and I've missed it, link me to it.
Independent reads would be great. Not a big fan of reads that contain a whole lot of 'ifs' and 'buts'.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Aneninen wrote:
WHUT?
You voted for Ika so as to see what happens? Not because you've been... scumreading him all the time? That's pigeon poop.
Aaaaaaaaand, obviously, you just ended up on the major wagon instantly. And of course, it's not OMGUS. Had I done the same, THAT would have been OMGUS, wouldn't it?
Remember when I said this Anen;
↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It doesn't give me pause because I really am convinced you're scum.
There is another reason and I'll share when the time is right.
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I don't need to vote anyone after I get you lynched. The game will be over and town will have won.
I could vote CES, I'm much more confident in you being scum after Yesterday's antics though.
I don't know. I'll ask her.
I'm pretty good. You can try to discredit me all you like but I've known you were scum since late D1.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Ika's hammer was straight up frustration with the situation he found himself in. Note the difference between his D1 hammer and his hammer on Anen.
Why the fuck would he hammer a town read when he thinks it would take us into LyLo? It makes no sense.
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No, I will never say meta is useful. It's too manipulative and subjective.
What I will say is, if I'm wrong about you this game I'll probably just avoid playing with you because a) if this is your town game it's ridiculously anti-town and b) I obviously can't read you for shit.
That doesn't matter though. Because you're flipping scum.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You're missing the point.
I want the satisfaction of your lynch.
@Anti - I'll wait. If the rest of town still don't want to lynch ika, I'll vote CES.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ theelkspeaks wrote:I'm pretty surprised that Anen ended up being scum - well done though!
So many people want to lynch CES that it worries me, in a situation where only one more correct lynch wins the game for town, I'd almost expect more resistance to the CES lynch from the scum, but maybe they just haven't posted yet.
This level of paranoia seems...unwarranted?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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I'm sure if that was the case Regfan would have been killed a long time ago.
I would bank that the only reason Reg is alive is because he has been solidly town reading both you and ika all game long and doesn't reconsider his position at all.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Who is the stronger player between the two?
Who would be considered more of a threat?
It's so very strange that you don't find it weird Reg is still alive on D4 (you know, given his reputation and all)Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
It's not about activity. Elk's deadline behaviour was purely some vague talk of ISOs; BBT's deadline behaviour is this lame-as-fuck interaction (1353-1357) with elk and arguing dumb stuff with Tammy - not the behaviour of someone who wants to get me lynched.
Haha.
You're right. I didn't push you at all. I probably should have been on your wagon at that point as well...oh wait...Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
That's why my scum team kept the two of you alive instead, I guess. We had too much influence so we shot people who townread us.
Or you shot people who you town read to keep your lynch pool as wide as possible?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Anti, please look at ika hammer.
Just fucking look at it. Look at the differences in his two hammers.
Look at Anen jumping off the ika wagon when it becomes joint lead wagon.
I want you to completely disregard your ika meta if I'm shown to be right this game.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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1807 - ika, this is exactly why if you are actually town I will avoid playing with you. Your play-style is so anti-town it's borderline playing against your win-con. There is no way you are town this game and I feel like I have done enough to crush your meta so that you won't be able rely on it again.
You'll hammer both myself and CES? You actually think myself and CES are both scum? How can people not see that ika is scum?
Sure, I'll let you hammer CES.
VOTE: CES
1810 - That hammer is a town tell? I must live on a different planet.
Town also don't hammer their town reads heading into LyLo either.
I don't know how you're seeing a possible CES/Elk team either. There would be no reason for CES to come out and bus his buddy immediately. I am, however, glad that you've got the sense to start reevaluating your reads.
1811 - Tbh, I'm past the point of caring. I feel I have sufficiently crushed your meta so when you flip scum after we lynch CES I'll get some satisfaction from that (and the fact that, hopefully, you'll never be able to rely on this type of play again). If you're town, I'll console myself with the fact that you're really bad at this game.
1812 - This association is awful. Can you just restate why you think I'm scum again?
You're acting like my reads on you and ika have just materialized toDay to try and support your theory that you're trying to push. Like, I'm scum reading you and ika just to avoid elk being lynched. You see how silly you look proposing this, right?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
I'm clearly referring to your choice to push ika today. Although I don't think it is at all accidental that you've got these tunnely reads on me and ika; that was always going to give you the option of not going after your scum buddies.
You're right.
It's not like I've lynched scum this game... (the only lynch I've been on I might add)
I see that 'static reads' has changed to 'tunnely'. Is that an attempt to discredit my reads further after you realised that saying reads are static is a scum tell was pretty bad?
You have no comment on Ika thinking we're a scum team? Like, no comment on that ridiculous statement at all?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
You had no interest in that wagon until it had become very obvious that Anen was getting lynched. This is classic scum trying to claim credit for a scum lynch he played little part in.
It was far from obvious that Anen was getting lynched. You realise that I left the joint leading wagon (Ika) to vote Anen, right? Like, you saw that happen.
I had absolutely no reason whatsoever to bus there if I was scum.
↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I'm calling them tunnely because that's what relevant; you've put yourself in a position where you can outright refuse to vote for your scum buddy because you're so "convinced" that me and ika are scum and where you don't even have to engage the arguments for your scum buddy being scum.
Can you explain the difference between static and tunnely for me?
I wouldn't be in this position if people had listened to me earlier in the game. We'd have already won by now.
↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:I'd rather focus on what scum is doing.
Of course. How convenient.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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I mean, you might have a point if I'd sat here and been like 'Kia and CES are scum' whilst providing no reasons whatsoever.
But we both know that's not the case. I've tried pretty fucking hard to get either of you lynched.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You see, you keep making posts like this that let me know you know I'm town.
I could only be 'stupid' if I am town. If I'm scum, then stupidity doesn't apply does it? You do little things like this throughout the game that tell me you know I'm town.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You think I am scum here.
I see nothing after this post that suggests you're town reading me.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Ika, you're not a policy lynch to me. I don't know why you even think this.
You're scum. And pretty fucking obviously so.
I didn't see anything in your ISO after that post where you're town reading me.
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You're back to me being scum now? I can't keep up.
↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Come on, Regfan. Look at how BBT pushed ika Today, talking about "crushing his meta" to try and spin the fact that ika's play fits his town play into something in favour of an ikalynch. Look at how he's claiming credit for voting Aneninen. And consider on how little his supertunnely scum read on me is based. Look at the BBT-elk interactions. Antihero's point about Aneninen's liking to bus. Why can't you see that BBT makes a lot of sense as scum here?
His meta is crushed when the game is over. I thought it was pretty obvious that's what I was referring to.
My scum read of you has been very well explained and in detail. You can keep trying to discredit it by pretending I don't have a case but that doesn't make it true.
Anen was bussing Ika until it looked like Ika would be lynched. Then he jumped off. That was what pointed to Anen being scum for me. It's another reason that Ika is scum.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You're consistently twisting things to fit the narrative you're trying to push CES.
It's scummy as fuck.
Why was Anen not bussing Ika? If you're using Anti's comment as reasoning for why I'm scum, why does this not apply to Ika?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Wrong.
My case for you being scum has absolutely nothing to do with your meta. It's funny that both you and CES are now pushing this as a reason for me being scum. It makes no sense whatsoever.
I'm scum reading you and CES and it makes no sense for me to vote CES? Are you for real right now?
Now my entire read,, on you is based on something that a) I haven't said and b) something that's only just became an issue right now and I've been scum reading you since late D1. Wow. This is beyond ridiculous.my entire read
You kill people you're town reading to keep your lynch pool as wide as possible.
Why the fuck would I work with someone I think is scum?
This conversation is just getting stupid now. You're making no sense at all.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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↑ Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Yes, you think my vote for Aeronaut was bad. It's not nothing but doesn't come close to justifying the way you've been tunneling me.
This most certainly is not my only reason for thinking you're scum.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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I just gave you a tonne of reasons for why I think you're scum and instead of responding you chose to try and discredit everything I said instead.
Are you saying ika/elk makes sense as a team?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- BlueBloodedToffee
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