Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: 3dicerolling

Let's go

[3dicerolling]

Just another Titus game where I have to self vote to prove I'm town

[3dicerolling]

No mm4

[3dicerolling]

He could be ASCETIC as in does not have limited uses.

[3dicerolling]

Vote me spiffeh

[3dicerolling]

So I can go talk with my peeps in the graveyard, and watch titus lose the smug look she's had all game day.

[3dicerolling]

That's what happens when I try to become confo town by claiming my role.

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: Firebringer

[3dicerolling]

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Titus trying to make this more difficult than it actually is

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: 3dicerolling

[3dicerolling]

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It's never been this difficult to be lynched before.

[3dicerolling]

There have been too many plans this game. Are you talking about where you switch all of our votes on me?

[3dicerolling]

inviting me where?

[3dicerolling]

How is mm4 suspicious?

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I finally got access to my spreadsheet with role info and just looking at the kills, Spiffeh is like 99.99% scum if 3dice is a town vig.

-Ank

Explain this because I am vig

[3dicerolling]

Why does this point to spiffeh though?

[3dicerolling]

Antihero is strongman. Spiffeh is confirmed ascetic/reflexive roleblocker.

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uhhhh, did the flip get fixed at some point? I swear I just saw doublevoter.

Ok, I'll reassess.

-Ank

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[3dicerolling]

Fb targeted spiffeh and got no result.

Titus doesn't like my gif

[3dicerolling]

Bah.

[3dicerolling]

I'm pissed, but for many different reasons, so there's not really one source to pinpoint it at.

[3dicerolling]

Titus could have 1 vote 2 votes, 0 votes, or 100 votes. We still lost.

[3dicerolling]

How about instead of debating whether town

should have

won, we debate

why

the town should've won and didn't.

How we could've won the game:

We were in the optimal position. The only problem is we have me, a ninja vig (THANKS for that pie) who is unconfirmed, so what's the solution to this situation?

You rolecop the vig.

Seems reasonable enough. If he isn't vig, he'll show up as sk, and if he has investigation immunity he will show up as Vanilla. But instead, the role cop decides to investigate the claimed ascetic.

Let's say for the instance, firebringer role cops me and reveals me as town. We would then proceed to lynch spiffeh. He would flip town, mm4 would block firebringer, which

didn't

happen because our roleblocker fell asleep at the wheel. But for theory purposes, let's say mm4 roleblocks firebringer. Since the kill still goes through, the only 2 choices are then titus and cb. Cb was obviously town, so that leaves titus. We lynch titus,

town wins

.

Disclaimer:

I am not stating I or any other player played a perfect game. In fact the game was less than perfect on both sides; however, this was the most notable way the town could have won the game.

[3dicerolling]

Honestly, I don't think spiffeh scum makes sense with the setup either. Ascetic with a doctor means the only person suzune could protect is antihero, which isn't very powerful at all.

Reflexive roleblocker instead?

Or Reflexive jailkeeper?

On a non-role based note, how did this come unchallenged? Like I literally felt as if people took everything titus said as absolute truth.

[3dicerolling]

3dice....you self voted yourself.
Thats just poor play regardless of your alignment no matter what.

I voted myself partially because I was so frustrated at the town completely ignoring all the ridiculous statements Titus made and only focusing on the possibility of me being town. ALSO, SK has no reason to self vote, so the vote in itself proved that I was town, but go ahead and believe what you wish.

P:edit - I made the mistakes to point out the flaws in the town's gameplay and point out a right path we could've made. It's not specifically meant to degrade either you or mm4, but because I want you to recognize your mistakes and move on. And so you have.

[3dicerolling]

You rolecop the vig

theres also mario forgetting to roleblock anyone. fire could have been cleared.
:/

I talked about that underneath.

[3dicerolling]

also titus, itle makes most sense as strongman kill from scum to break BP.

It makes more sense to kill conftown as a Strongman FMPOV. When it dies, scum throw mud on protective roles. Shoot BP after Suzune was guiltied, suggests a mislynch in whoever RB blocked. SK has to shoot BP because unmurderable people are bad.

It makes more sense than town 3dice murdering someone I wanted to talk to.

Gork, can you explain to me what this is because I honestly want to understand why this makes sense to anyone, because it doesn't make sense to me.

[3dicerolling]

"BECAUSE ONLY SCUM EVER DONT MAKE SENSE."
im sure that mindset has never fucked you over.
-.-

i get it. youre mad we lost.
but if youre gonna be a prick at me, then youre gonna lose my sympathy, bud.

You're mis-interpretting me. I'm not trying to be a prick, nor am I trying to make you mad intentionally. I'm trying to understand this so I can be a better player.

[3dicerolling]

q.q
sorry.
im a little sad at myself this game so im jumpier than usual.

basically if titus was town then we should have been able to gamesolve by not having to worry about a third party.
titus being scum and mario not roleblocking someone messed that up to some degree.

im a big idiot for letting gamesolving take precedence over what i was feeling at the time, which was that you werent a third party.

This makes more sense.

Like I said before, we're in this together as a team, and we lost it together as a team. Don't be too hard on yourself.

[3dicerolling]

The 2 scum docs really threw me off.

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@firebringer - I honestly thought you might vote titus. The way you were talking about spiffeh sounded like you didn't really believe he was scum. Then you said you definitely didn't think cb was scum. The setup spec was very overwelling.

[3dicerolling]

There also was a right for wrong reasons case on me.

I asked Mala to talk to me. Mala was weak neighbor. Mala visited Titus. Titus is scum.

Actually, I shot her.

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Thanks for modding flay