You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Passionate Storm]

@tso, Jeanne isn't really posting. So yeah it's me.

I mean evaluate EE using the same standards you would read me, but for meta. What is your result?

[Passionate Storm]

It's a tough one. I'm fairly sure their view of the gamestate is wrong, but that doesn't necessarily indict them as scum. In YCBA III, SkyPaladin did his best to derail everything I did for 2-3 days and he was town.

I would have to say, scum. I really hated their early game play. I haven't disliked them that much after that, but I don't feel they've really redeemed themselves either. My general uneasiness about them has not been allayed.

I am struggling to sort townbeard or scum as well. His mindset (the point of the patient hypothetical) seems to be to trust Klingon and not investigate to the alternative.

EE was town reading me briefly, which evaporated right at the start of the itepip and Spifflop counters.

It feels like scum have day hat and decided against agency capturing me but to call me scum and try to mislynch.

[Passionate Storm]

Tell Jeanne she should post, it'll help me figure out your slot faster and then I don't have to be guarded with my thoughts.

Been telling her for ages. She has Elyse as scum, and Zi have wanted her to tell me why forever.

[Passionate Storm]

Is it a confidence issue? There are certain players I won't mention playing this current game who she couldn't possibly be worse than.

She is more of why bother, we'll ignore her variant.

[Passionate Storm]

Is it a confidence issue? There are certain players I won't mention playing this current game who she couldn't possibly be worse than.

If I am in this group, I would like to know. I need to be aware of where my play can be vastly improved upon and it can be hard to self-evaluate.

If someone is comparing you to me, it means you're good but hard to read Imo. You rely highly on reading, analyzing and manipulating data and theories.

[Passionate Storm]

If someone is comparing you to me, it means you're good but hard to read Imo. You rely highly on reading, analyzing and manipulating data and theories.

I'm flattered. I'm sorry. I should not have brought this up. I would like to discuss this post-game however, if you get the chance.

Absolutely. While I think you're either scum or a townbeard, I think you would be very receptive to my theories about how town and scum should behave. regardless of alignment, you have ticks and strategy beliefs that don't work based on your personality.

You're welcome to hydra with me or crash any game of mine. Would be fun.

I love teaching people the game.

[Passionate Storm]

If someone is comparing you to me, it means you're good but hard to read Imo. You rely highly on reading, analyzing and manipulating data and theories.

I'm flattered. I'm sorry. I should not have brought this up. I would like to discuss this post-game however, if you get the chance.

Asking how you are perceived is a ok btw. More than what I said, best for post game.

[Passionate Storm]

If someone is comparing you to me, it means you're good but hard to read Imo. You rely highly on reading, analyzing and manipulating data and theories.

I'm flattered. I'm sorry. I should not have brought this up. I would like to discuss this post-game however, if you get the chance.

Absolutely. While I think you're either scum or a townbeard, I think you would be very receptive to my theories about how town and scum should behave. regardless of alignment, you have ticks and strategy beliefs that don't work based on your personality.

You're welcome to hydra with me or crash any game of mine. Would be fun.

I love teaching people the game.

Awesome. Like I mentioned earlier I have played mafia before, but my play was nightmarishly bad and I thought I was doing an excellent job, which only made it worse. I've obviously learned quite a bit since then (or at least I hope it's obvious). I could go in detail about this but it's not absolutely necessary right now, so I'll keep to myself about it for now.

I have had quite a few thoughts about strategies and theories about mafia and I'm kind of trying to implement ideas that I have had little practice with here, but you have to start practicing somewhere, right? It would definitely be good to discuss these with someone who has more experience when I know they're not scum.

So I would definitely love to hydra with you on another game.

All that said, what's a townbeard?

A townbeard is someone who is convinced scum are the one true town.

Just pm me to get the hydra process started.

[Passionate Storm]

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

I believe this is your explanation of why dapper and Klingon could be on the same team? Could you explain this?

Sure. If a scum is wagoned, scumchoose either bus or get town to wagon someone else. Given the stalled wagons, bussing is remote. So in Klingon scum world...

That suggests scum would be fighting for a counter wagon and attempt to undercut the reasons people are pushing Klingon.

In this case, staunch defenders of Klingon are suspect (and hence why scum pretend to suspect the block). If someone is abnormally invested in depending scum or takes invalid positions, there's a good chance of buddies.

[Passionate Storm]

Does vedith usually post more? Should we be worried about his absence?

He is active as town yes. Usually at the bottom of the top posters. Fire tends to be at the high middle of top posters.

This game they are both nowhere.

Correct but when I have lynched Vedith based on this, he has flipped town. See Midnight Sun.

[Passionate Storm]

EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.

You are missing how scum normally behave here.

[Passionate Storm]

EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.

You are missing how scum normally behave here.

Maybe. She might be scum. I'm thinking about it.

I do have a question for you, though:
If you believed someone was scum to the fullest, would you do anything to get them lynched, even lie, as town?

Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.

[Passionate Storm]

Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.

Ok.



Hmmm.

Alright.
VOTE: Klingon

I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.

If you are going to threaten me, at least use something with a high likelihood of happening. KC is scum. Almost certainly.

[Passionate Storm]

How can you ignore my offer of cookies Shiro?

Notice how the only one voter not in my townblock gets off after EE gets on.

[Passionate Storm]

Shiro I has lots of cookies

[Passionate Storm]

Shiro, you forgot me . In pun mafia we didn't nearly push Kling as hard as we did in this game, d1 ended up being me flubbing a bit, but there wasn't a serious wagon on Kling that I remember. Titus was the d1 lurker lynch suspect not Kling.

I am pretty sure we ended up lynching her. Sure it wasn't a day 1 wagon but it happened and she didn't get nearly as invested in defending herself.

I wasn't a lurker in pun, just not confident in my reads. It threw people off.

Klingon, although I suspected her, wasn't a wagon. You could compare the D1 ISOs.

[Passionate Storm]

Wound up getting naked n1 for being right on FB and Klingon.

[Passionate Storm]

Klingon, although I suspected her, wasn't a wagon. You could compare the D1 ISOs.

That is what I said. We didn't wagon her day 1 but if I remember we did day 2 and she wasn't nearly as aggro-def

Klingon tends to be more reserved in a hopeless scenario. Aggressive when not hopeless.

[Passionate Storm]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=62339

Aggressive scum Klingon lynched D2

[Passionate Storm]

No.

2 factions is town and scum. If you're going to argue slip, Say single ball.

Still wrong. Single ball is pretty evident from no KC lynch but hey town's not lynching scum BC of lurkers and dumbasses.

[Passionate Storm]

Passionate storm, Elyse, pip, spiffeh lop, Varsoon, Garmr

Applying TSO AJ , Spider Gwen

Gun to head town TWIE but his lack of content and votes makes me not care if he dies

Need to get invested: Shiro Mohis interest errant, Shiro voting scum is a good sign

Gun to head scum PV

where does varsoon hard townblock town come from?

The fact he isn't mind fucking me.

Vote Klingon?

[Passionate Storm]

Hi. Looks like my other head never got around to posting

Can we lynch Klingon now?

[Passionate Storm]

@AJ, I thought I was fake claiming masons with you...or was I itep? Bah a storm makes people forget things.

[Passionate Storm]

I don't even know who you're referencing anymore Dapper.

[Passionate Storm]

We stll haven't lynched Klingon...

Ok back to my hidey hole unless someone wants to talk to me.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

We lynch Klingon- she flips town. What happens then, Titus?

We lynch Klingon- she flips scum. What happens now? How do you follow up? Where? Just interrogate those who haven't really recognized her?

We fuck the mid for lying.

We lynch dapper.

[Passionate Storm]

Aren't you the least big concerned about the first part of my post?

[Passionate Storm]

Mid is mod. Autocorrect. If Klingon is town, we fuck the mod for lying.

You're not certain you agree with me and I am not certain you're town.

I haven't given an articulable decent thought on the last several pages. If I can get away with that, no one is reading to hunt anymore. Everyone is posting to persuade and not listening.

Time to get a flip in here.

[Passionate Storm]

Words words words


Flip has to be Klingon. She tells the most about the most people.

[Passionate Storm]

That the mod lied.

Ask me post flip if that never going to happen thing happens.

[Passionate Storm]

Dude, 1 have average 1 post per page.

The game is stalling out. We got weeks till deadline but most everyone seems set on reads.

If all the people who voted Klingon in the past get back on, we'd get a lynch.

[Passionate Storm]

Look, if you're not on Klingoncelt, get on or case your biggest suspect.

If everyone that has been on Klingon revotes, we have majority.

[Passionate Storm]

Thank you errant.

Favoriting TSO's tweet.

[Passionate Storm]

Thank you errant.

Favoriting TSO's tweet.

Titus, take it from an old student: Right now would be an excellent time to take a walk, or go have a drink, or call a friend, or something. There are things that happen in this world that you'd rather just not know about. I'm saying this as a friend, it's not AtE, I'm not asking you to change your vote.

*hug* I have seen most of them.

[Passionate Storm]

That was going through the motions scum Klingon. I already linked her aggressive scum meta.

Shiro, last time I had cookies I was right. I has cookies.

[Passionate Storm]

Crying gif...crying gif...must resist. Klingoncelt is scum.


I shall sheep you, right or wrong on Klingon.

[Passionate Storm]

I join that opinion.

~Titus (like no shit)

[Passionate Storm]

Oh shit no. Dapper's Scum too.

I concur with that opinion.

[Passionate Storm]

I hereby grant you an exception from any VCA argument against you for any of today's vote counts if you end the day.

You should not worry about having your name in vote counts now.

[Passionate Storm]

I hereby grant you an exception from any VCA argument against you for any of today's vote counts if you end the day.

You should not worry about having your name in vote counts now.

but it so much more fun for me to watch you try to frame my intentional non voting as something more than intentional non voting.

Seriously, why do you do this?

[Passionate Storm]

@Anen: Was something supposed to happen?

Hi buddy.

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Let's handle the end of day bussers shall we?

[Passionate Storm]

...

thats maybe the worst post in the game.

Concur.

[Passionate Storm]

Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?

[Passionate Storm]

Let's talk about it. Why was he strong town?

He didn't sheep people.
He took a strong stance.
He paid attention.
He was largely ignored.
He was reasonable.
He got frustrated.
My gut says he was genuine. He certainly seemed so.
He was smart.

Personality
Personality
Indication of skill and desire (see TPTG)
That's solely indicative of Charisma of players
Disagree
Scum indicator. Things weren't going his way so he was frustrated because we lynched their encryptor.
Gut... Bleh
Null tell. I have seen dumb town.

[Passionate Storm]

My thoughts on the Serial Killer is that they're probably one of my townreads, but I don't plan to go SK-hunting any time soon, so meh.

Why so sure on SK?

[Passionate Storm]

@TSO flavor doesn't say stabbed.

@EE, What would you do if a little birde said Dapper was guilty?

[Passionate Storm]

Isn't it essentially the same thing?

What's your alternative explanation, then?

Don't have one. I just don't like jumping to conclusions and had to check if you were more informed than I in a scummy way.

[Passionate Storm]

@TSO flavor doesn't say stabbed.

@EE, What would you do if a little birde said Dapper was guilty?

I enjoy listening to little birds. I am a bird myself, after all, and birds of a feather must fly together. Little birds can many a time see things below the canvas of trees that I cannot see as well up here. I think if a little bird was certain that dapper was scum, I would help the little one in dapper s lynch.

The little bird is certain, but interesting you avoided taking a stance on if the little bird was real or not. We both know what the bird is. So your move.

[Passionate Storm]

The bird is fake.

My gut is telling me EE is scum with Dapper. Wanted to test.

[Passionate Storm]

No. I am pretty certain (no birds) that dapper, grapes and random are scum if single group scum. That's not enough scum though.

[Passionate Storm]

i mean 959 certainly was the old worst post in the game but i dunno about that scumteam

Why not?

EE failed my test but not sure if noob or scum failed.

[Passionate Storm]

valid, yes. Sound most likely not.

Join me on dapper to find out.

[Passionate Storm]

Stranger first then random then grapes?

*bats eyelashes at Gwen*

[Passionate Storm]

Thank you.

Got your back baby doll.

Anything I should know, don't be afraid to tell me. Especially about Elyse. Jeanne thought she was scum so I want to investigate that although I really disagree.

[Passionate Storm]

@TSO, I agree. She's not here though. I am not going to ignore her entirely though.

@EE, my BS? Really? I had all of a one post reaction test. Why would Dapper get the game over with sooner? Don't get the annoyance. It is out of place. :/

[Passionate Storm]

if Jeanne is still alive I'd like to talk to her.

So would I. If she ignores this request, I am subbing in by myself.

[Passionate Storm]

Fine. Let's get the game over with.

.... wut

You has free town points.

[Passionate Storm]

Me too. Pretty obvious there.

Best cop fakeclaim ever.

[Passionate Storm]

@Stormy: Should I really read the last 24 hours of d1?

I did ish sorta. Always worth a look given Dapper and EE have a 75% likelihood of being scum.

[Passionate Storm]

Nope. I am good on DS then lynching you.

Good to know practically my whole townblock is likely right though. Keep ignoring me. Please.

Also *batting eyelashes* is pretty please. I softed just to reaction test. Lols.


@Gwen, The little birde was testing what EE would do if hypothetically faced with a guilty on DS, who he had as hard town. Rather than fight the birdie, he waffled and voted it. Not the response I expected from town.

I was pretty sure if I kept it short enough, any real cop if in existance would stay quiet and realize what I was doing.

[Passionate Storm]

Alrighty. I doubt that reaction test means anything. But Stranger is likely scum.

By itself, I was agreeing. I was hoping EE would state the bird was insane/fake which would be helpful or sheep right away.

It's his frustration right now that damns him in my opinion.

[Passionate Storm]

I'm meh on him. Might change my mind on a bit of a read. I'm more interested on lynching Stranger/Random/Grapes.

Let's stick to where we agree for now. We can always sleep on things. If I die, promise me you'll review that please.

[Passionate Storm]

Nope. I am good on DS then lynching you.

Good to know practically my whole townblock is likely right though. Keep ignoring me. Please.

No. Me then dapper. Because you're acting like a moron and my flip will make people less likely to follow the idiocy that is the dapper push right now.

Where have I ignored you? I'm seriously conflicted right here. I haven't ignored you at all today. So a blatant lie is not intelligent. And I think you are intelligent. So you're dumb or scum again. And I hate to call you dumb. But I keep thinking youre mislead town, too.

You haven't ignored me. I was stating that sarcastically. Every post you ignore or diminish me gives more information.

I am pretty sure nobody thinks I am acting like a moron atm. My ego is wrapped up in my brain though, so good shot.

You can say I am dumb town. That's not a personal attack.

[Passionate Storm]

Let me check to see where I am in regards to the role PM thing, and then we can talk more about Eagle. I think there are some other things I need to get solid on.

Ok, fair enough.

At this point, I think I can overrule Jeanne and not have her too pissed at me. Not like she ever gave a reason anyway.

Let's get solid together then.

[Passionate Storm]

Because Elyse bleeds town, and the odds of Jeanne being right against multiple highly competent players is slim to non-existent.

I still don't want her to feel like I took over. Sometimes the newbie is right.

I will probably just have her read from the start of the day today.

[Passionate Storm]

Actually Stormy, let's leave Eagle be to focus on the scum we both agree with. I want to solidify the town bloc to make it seamless in that time. Not much more to say there, but I will want to revisit this before the day ends.

Fine by me.

Townblock unity for the win.

[Passionate Storm]

I'm not saying it's impossible that I'm wrong and she's right, but I can see many things that point me towards Elyse-town, and Jeanne hasn't produced a single coherent reason that explains why Elyse is scum.

Which is fine, because nobody starts off getting everything right. But she can't expect to be a prominent voice until she can do that.

Agreed.

[Passionate Storm]

every time I preview my post to check spelling and stuff I get so many ninjas following me lol.

There's a good reason I swear.

[Passionate Storm]

In a smaller game I would not put up with all of the bs you've been putting out this game, but something tells me you wouldnt try the kind of utter shit that you've tried this game.

I'm done with it.

VOTE: passionate storm

I will Unvote if Jeanne comes to talk. Otherwise I'm lurking until stuff happens.

PEdit: you want to torture me, don't you?
I shouldn't have joined. There are too many people for me to keep up with and play optimally and I have to rely on highly volatile emotions because the thread moves like a bullet train. And it's headed for a wreck.

Yeah I know, passionate storm might just be out of it this game. I know I'm certainly pretty lost, I can't keep up and read the way I want to with a thread so big. So maybe she's just as far behind as I am. But if that's true and she's actually relying on emotions I hate how confident she is.

(Hugs)

That's not happening sweetie. Love the effort. Respect.

You still didn't answer how voting for DS resolved the game faster.

[Passionate Storm]

Well TSO, obviously a man is wrong yesterday. It is saying nothing for a man's overall record.


Suspicious things needing looked at

That whole Anen-Gwen thing. A man is never seeing a role which is making an Innocent Child from nothing before. A man is also wondering why Anen is choosing to use such a powerful role, if the role is true, on one he is already town reading instead of one with much and more doubt around them.

TSO is so obviously SK asking to be leashed it hurts. What is hurting about it is that the only one to pick up on this thus far is Titus. Who isn't following through on it. Which is meaning she too is prob scum.

You know who isn't scum? A man. But as vanilla he is expendable, and if he is to be the tool scum are using to divide the game, a man is doing as he must. He is doing the same to any other town being used as such, so this is just so

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Pro tip: if you're caught scum, doing this just gives information.

I feel sorry for you. You're game wasn't terrible.

[Passionate Storm]

Wow. That was a scum post from Stranger.

Agreed.

Can we talk about your concerns? I don't want scum to find a way out of this.

[Passionate Storm]

Well TSO, obviously a man is wrong yesterday. It is saying nothing for a man's overall record.


Suspicious things needing looked at

That whole Anen-Gwen thing. A man is never seeing a role which is making an Innocent Child from nothing before. A man is also wondering why Anen is choosing to use such a powerful role, if the role is true, on one he is already town reading instead of one with much and more doubt around them.

TSO is so obviously SK asking to be leashed it hurts. What is hurting about it is that the only one to pick up on this thus far is Titus. Who isn't following through on it. Which is meaning she too is prob scum.

You know who isn't scum? A man. But as vanilla he is expendable, and if he is to be the tool scum are using to divide the game, a man is doing as he must. He is doing the same to any other town being used as such, so this is just so

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Pro tip: if you're caught scum, doing this just gives information.

I feel sorry for you. You're game wasn't terrible.

A man would have to be scum to be caught scum.

Valid and sound logic. You are scum, thus you can be caught.
Thanks for helping me.

[Passionate Storm]

The Stranger post was a scum post because he spreads shade around and then self votes. As town, he'd be fighting. He wants to spread paranoia and destroy the town bloc.

I'm a little concerned about the Anen thing. Not really saying scum. But I was expecting something that confirms what he claimed. I want time to follow up on this in case the mod says that nothing happened.

I think Elyse and Auntie J are incredibly likely town. But I'd like to start solidifying them. Also if you're concerned about TSO, we should probably solidify that too. But I need to know whether you want to prioritize solidifying town or figuring out players like Eagle.

Solidify town 100%. Eagle's a waste of time as he's flipping tomorrow.

Alchemist and Shiro would be great, because sorting them = epic VCA ramifications down the line. Don't expect to live that long.

For the community if scum firming, I would be inclined to go grapes as he's the weakest of my scumreads.

Nulls Varsoon and PV aren't bad.

My number 1 is Alch but I desire your input.

[Passionate Storm]

Derp, forgot Anen. Not bad choice there either.

[Passionate Storm]

The Stranger post was a scum post because he spreads shade around and then self votes. As town, he'd be fighting. He wants to spread paranoia and destroy the town block.

You act like you know a man when you don't. A man as town is going to do what is most optimal for town- including advocating his own lynch when he is being used as the tool scum use to divide town. So, let's do it, just without these diatribes of pure stupidity.

Why not try to unify town? Why don't you assume town is unified wrong?

The way that Klingon wagon parked, town looked pretty unified in the right direction to me.

[Passionate Storm]

@Stranger: Yeah. That's BS.

I don't see why Eagle would be flipping tomorrow. Especially if you're town like you say. Sounds like you're going for an associative here. I'm kinda meh on Alch. Leaning town on Shiro. Varsoon is town. PV is worth looking into later. Not now. And Anen can be dealt with after I hear from the mod. But I don't think he's getting lynched.

And just to say it: Stormy is town. Hands off.

I am going for an associative that practically everyone saw.

Summary
Me (thoughts): I think Dapper and EE are partners.
*reaction tests EE*
EE fails test.

EE: Let's get the game over with. *votes Dapper*

P.s. I don't need you to defend me. I got this. I got your back boo. I know you're town.

[Passionate Storm]

Well I looking back over itlip I'm not sure why he was killed it could of easily been a vig,mafia or sk kill.

Spiffy being a scum or sk kill also makes sense to me because I never would see a vig making this kill.


I feel like eagle should be lynched over dapper today to be honest. He is currently giving that defeated scum feel. Also just look at his reaction to kling yesterday. He was pushing her to be town but voted her with a shitty reason when the wagon was near the end of it then jumped off her when he could find the shittest reasoning ever. This reeks of newbie scum.

Lets not forget he posts walls and walls of empty shit that drew away from the game.

He never really directly answered any of my questions he tried his best to change the context or move the discussion away from me. When he did finally answer he just accused me of not reading with out saying why it's wrong.


Eagle has had the most suspicious activity around the kling wagon and I want to vote him out first today. Also I'm more unsure about dapper as my experience with jaq in the past have been mixed I know how he can ruin a game and how he can be a really good player. His reaction around the kling wagon is also harder to figure out to me as eagle is obvious while jaqs just a scum lean to me at worst and in the null at best.

I also like spidergwen for town at the moment after anneiens gambit her reaction comes off as really townie. I'm not sure if annein is town or scum but what he did helped cement my thoughts on spider gwen which I was already leaning town on is her reactions to the name change today.


VOTE: Eagle

Town unity 101. Dapper is scum too.

I promise if we're alive, you got our vote tomorrow.

Let's make it as painless as possible.

[Passionate Storm]

And in playing know this Titus- a man is receiving a little birdie's letter last night confirming you as scum. When a man is flipping the town you are already knowing he will flip it will be to your own doom. So, again, let's play.

LMAO ROTFL LMAO

I will laugh at this one from dead chat.

[Passionate Storm]

Gwen- a man KNOWS town are aligned wrongly and the only way of breaking that townbloc you are clinging wrongly to is to lay down and die, sharing what he KNOWS as he does so.

Oh that's even worse.

Rotfl

[Passionate Storm]

Good so we agree. Stranger then Eagle.

[Passionate Storm]

I doubt it, but if we run into trouble, let me do the talking k?

[Passionate Storm]

Stranger for sure. Talk to me tomorrow about Eagle.

I think I got a shelf life of today and that's it.

[Passionate Storm]

Whatevs. I think easing Jeanne's fears should be a priority moving forward.

Agreed. Elyse (long shot) might be SK or something. Getting her to talk would be helpful. Even if she's wrong she'll learn.

[Passionate Storm]

Seriously! Lynch Stranger scum!

Speed lynch requested.

[Passionate Storm]

@Stormy: I thought Stranger said that. Ignore that part about Eagle. It was a my bad.

@Stranger: You just f-d up. You just don't realize it.

Hey everyone! Stranger is scum. Like guaranteed.

And why is a town Cop always calling themselves out on an effing gambit? A man is searching the scum already on hos wagon. A man is saying to do this without the diatribes of stupidity and this one just can't control themselves in their wrong tunnel to the point of outting themselves. Diatribe. Of. Sheer. Stupidity. Why are you so dumb you aren't paying heed to a man's words? Goddamn. A man is looking for those who are all of a sudden jumping on to finish off a man's wagon when he is setting up another mislynch on the morrow by saying he has evidence Titus is scum. So, either you're a Cop who is investigating Titus last night or Scum laughing at aan being wrong. Which is it?

Ewww...

Major Rolefish

You can't have evidence I am scum if you're asking SG if she's the cop.

Just fail fail fail.

[Passionate Storm]

Which one do I get to be? can I be Shawn? Major mind tricks. Scum are breaking down.

[Passionate Storm]

Oh goody. The gambit play. Can we lynch him harder?

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

Nope, still only have one vote.

[Passionate Storm]

I am sorry. I am probably being rude and braggadocious but this is funny.

I am putting DS on ignore. He's blowing up his own gambit and rolefishing hard,

[Passionate Storm]

Fresh here real quick.

I asked the mod a question and he is looking into it. That is all for now I haven't read a thing since day 2 started.

-Fresh

You will find your question is useless, as you scum claimed partners with EE.

[Passionate Storm]

Stormy can you believe these scumzors?

I am still laughing. My husband thinks I have gone mad.

[Passionate Storm]

I am sorry. I am probably being rude and braggadocious but this is funny.

I am putting DS on ignore. He's blowing up his own gambit and rolefishing hard,

You are so wrapped in your own I correctness you won't even acknowledge what I've said in plain English. LOOK AT IT TOMORROW AFTER I FLIP TOWN. Deal?

I will look into your alleged guilty on myself if you flip town. Lol.

[Passionate Storm]

Listening to "I'm the Boss" while wrecking scum. This is awesome!

We should stop posting. Give people a chance to quick vote.

[Passionate Storm]

Hard to resist though.

[Passionate Storm]

Lol.

EE is mod confirmed scum too nice.

[Passionate Storm]

Lol.

EE is mod confirmed scum too nice.

Ok, not quite mod confirmed but damn.

They are talking about daychat to solve whether to seppuku.

[Passionate Storm]

I am sorry. I am probably being rude and braggadocious but this is funny.

I am putting DS on ignore. He's blowing up his own gambit and rolefishing hard,

You are so wrapped in your own I correctness you won't even acknowledge what I've said in plain English. LOOK AT IT TOMORROW AFTER I FLIP TOWN. Deal?

I will look into your alleged guilty on myself if you flip town. Lol.

Mother Fucker! I SAID MY ALLEGED GUILTY ON YOU WAS A GAMBIT DUMBSHIT!

Look at Gwen's reaction to the Gambit.


And look at Anen doubling down on Gwen for town with his whole Clotid thing. Why would someone who is reading someone as town, who is accepted as town to the point of being in TOWNBLOK, use an investigation as powerful as mod confirmed to confirm something already readily accepted instead of on someone who isn't? Answer- you wouldn't. If Gwen is scum, so is Anen.

Anen was probably Roleblocked.

[Passionate Storm]

P.s. Calling me DUMBSHIT is not an effective method of persuasion.

[Passionate Storm]

EE, just vote dapper.

My vote is never moving.

[Passionate Storm]

Are you suggesting that Anen's ability wasn't a day use?

Most likely. Or he's really brazen cult but I don't think so.

Or it's fake.

Still, your my boo.

[Passionate Storm]

P.s. Calling me DUMBSHIT is not an effective method of persuasion.

Then don't act like one and instead read words for what they are instead of skimming them with your preconceived notions attached.

DS stop rolefishing.

Friendly neighbors are a thing. One of us is a one shot friendly neighbor. Lol.

Lols my bad. Two counts. Oh well.

[Passionate Storm]

@SG, got your back boo.

[Passionate Storm]

DS stop rolefishing.

Friendly neighbors are a thing. One of us is a one shot friendly neighbor. Lol.

I'm not role fishing shithead. No matter how many times you say I am. I put out a gambit, Gwen reacted poorly, I called it as I saw it. Easy as that and none of that bullshit you're spewing. And, friendly neighbor doesn't mean you're both town.

Lmao. Rotfl.

Sorry dapper.

I mean good try and all but damn.

[Passionate Storm]

Must not laugh. In laws calling.

[Passionate Storm]

Titus. Please. Take a break from the thread. Well have a thousand pages of angry posts between you and everyone you've picked a fight with. Think about things. Seriously this is super anti town. I need time to think and I think a lot of other people do as well. Back off. Please.

I am not angry. I am trying not to laugh. And it's really hard.

[Passionate Storm]

Titus. Please. Take a break from the thread. Well have a thousand pages of angry posts between you and everyone you've picked a fight with. Think about things. Seriously this is super anti town. I need time to think and I think a lot of other people do as well. Back off. Please.

I am not angry. I am trying not to laugh. And it's really hard.

Not talking about you. You're not even paying attention to what people are saying anymore. People are angry at you.

Angry posts between me and others implies there's a fight. There isn't one. I am not fighting.

You two are scum.

Nothing will change my mind.

There's no fight.

[Passionate Storm]

I never said I was the neighbor. I might have received the message from Gwen. I coulda sent it to her. Who knows.

You're not getting that lynch.

[Passionate Storm]

Good luck with that.

I am going to have a laugh. Y'all are being good sports. Mad props, but the best thing to do is self vote. I got no qualms if you did. The more you talk, the more info we get.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

I am fine. Better than fine. Ty for your concern.

Hope we're still friends after lol stomp.

[Passionate Storm]

Lol, I bus buddies who slip. I defend others. I didn't bus you in tptg because fresh didn't out your slip. I rarely bus. Really don't lie about meta everyone knows.

Scum don't know who is who. Otherwise, you wouldn't be compelled to ask the question.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Nothing.

It's pretty clear scum weren't bussing.

Can you stop spamming? Ty.

@Twie, can you vote DS please?

[Passionate Storm]

Make a case and self vote then and stop the spam. Ty.

[Passionate Storm]

It's pretty clear scum weren't bussing.

If you are in fact scum, you'd love for everyone to believe this.

If you're town, which is highly doubtful, this is an incredibly obtuse view on Kling's wagon. The chance of there being no bussing D1 on a highly controversial wagon is almost nil.

Right. You and random bussed at the end, almost certainly.

So many attacks at the voters on her wagon by those off it.

[Passionate Storm]

Literally all of this is spam. It doesn't solve the game. We know you are caught. You're just throwing shit to bog the game.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

@pas storm
no need to rush this dapper is providing a lot of interactions at the moment. Plus we can use this as down time to look at klings actions yesterday.

Understand where you're coming from, but numerous places DS and EE are scum chatting to each other and coordinating. The interactions we're going to get are of a subpar value, given DS and EE are outed scum. For instance the blatant rolefishes to try and find out if SG is cop, fake claim guilty on me or the should we bus ourselves or the which one of you is fn aren't exactly optimal. I mean I can mind fuck the scums all day long (maybe the FN is fake and I am cop for instance or better yet no mod confirm just obvtown is obvious yo).

I know I am highly likely going to die, but EE and DS's resignation before the spam out gave us tons. At some point, I have to trust you all to lynch EE tomorrow and Random after that. I don't want town losing interest due to scum flail.

I will put out last reads before hammer.

[Passionate Storm]

Spoiler: open in the event of my death and SG wagon

Before I forget Michelle, love you. Remember this video as our journey.

Sincerely,

Demi

[Passionate Storm]

Well, someones wanted me and here I am. I agree that DS is scum, yo.

[Passionate Storm]

That was me.

Also, we do realize that Titus started voting us just because we were an end of day vote?

-Fresh

No.

[Passionate Storm]

One of my problems as I grow in this game is that when a player FOOLISHLY pushes a bad lynch (like what Titus is doing) that I give them too much scumread for it. I need to stepback especially in my limited action and take a look at everyone.

-Fresh

No.

[Passionate Storm]

I will keep posting 'no' until someone actually starts engaging me.

[Passionate Storm]

Moon logic is never wrong.

[Passionate Storm]

You thinking you can fool me with your half-assed reasoning is what's cute.

[Passionate Storm]

You guys stop bickering and vote real scum

Vote:Alchemist

Like for anyone thinking Titus is scum I will ask.

Have you ever played with scum Titus?

Yes. As scum with her. This

is

Titus scum. She's townbloking, she's being far less grating to the thread in general, she's actually

WORKING

with people. Yeah. Thus is Titus as scum. If she were town most everybody here woulda wanted to kill her with fire yesterday.

Just wrong. My last few town games I won by identifying town and having them work with me. Particularly Suikoden. Check my sig.

[Passionate Storm]

Can people bold questions for Jeanne? Particularly any about reads she disagrees with me on. She's approved the DS vote and wants to feel involved. Thank you.

[Passionate Storm]

I will keep posting 'no' until someone actually starts engaging me.

Hey Titus, I know I was wrong about kling and you were right but I think you are wrong this time.

Reason being. Why would scum hard defend their buddy (1 head at that) Push town to death and then kill said town Making them look double horrible? You can say it is Wifom but I find it too bad of a way to Wifom

Further more he did nothing to push anyone else which would make no sense for someone trying to save their buddy.

So Titus please join me on alchemist. Do you think he has a chance of flipping town? Cause I honestly don't.

That was actually Jeanne.

Our vote is not likely to move. I don't see how any people could plausibly think DS is town here. His play today isn't bickering at all.

Your counter push here again is majorly suspicious.

[Passionate Storm]

Can people bold questions for Jeanne? Particularly any about reads she disagrees with me on. She's approved the DS vote and wants to feel involved. Thank you.

Sorry. People

bold questions for the mod only

it's part of the rules. Colors can be done so long as it's not mod colors

That bold clearly wasn't for mod use.

Second, questions for the mod need to be bolder so he can see them, that doesn't mean everything in bold is a mod request.

[Passionate Storm]

Jeanne scum-reads this because this is full of bs. Jeanne has experience from two mafia sites. Jeanne can back this up by saying that Titus' moon logic is never wrong unless if it involves Jeanne herself. Titus pegged two scum, so Jeanne trusts Titus.

[Passionate Storm]

Jeanne also scum-reads this because this reminds her of her own scumplay.

[Passionate Storm]

Also, Jeanne doesn't need to have independent thinking here. Jeanne is hydra with Titus, so independent thinking is done away from man's eyes.

[Passionate Storm]

However, since this one

is

A man is having a follow up. If money were taken from your register at work and hidden on the premises without your knowledge, who is most likely to direct those searching to find it- this one or the one taking the cash?

This is made to confuse Jeanne and put her on the wrong trail, so Jeanne won't bother to answer this.

[Passionate Storm]

Independent thinking is done.

[Passionate Storm]

Jeanne won't let this trick her like its predecessor did.

[Passionate Storm]

The first one is the more likely suspect. But the 2nd one could also do something like that to save their own ass. Nothing is black and white as you put it out to be. Mafia can and will do crazy things to win and nothing is off-limits to them.

[Passionate Storm]

I refuse. If I answer that question, I'll have to reveal the real reason I scum-read you and I'd rather not to that.

[Passionate Storm]

.........

[Passionate Storm]

Are you trying to make me spill the beans? Because you're not gonna get me to spill them, scum. If I spill them, I'll be killed.

[Passionate Storm]

And I'll spell it out for you. I hate dying as town.

[Passionate Storm]

So you shut up. All you do when we attack you is make up these contrived statements and provide no real reasoning as to why you're innocent. Seems to me you're afraid of us catching you, the scum, again.

[Passionate Storm]

And since you gave a scenario, let me give one.

Suppose you kill someone and some people saw you do it. They will testify against you on a trial. What would you do?

[Passionate Storm]

@shiro,

Itepip and Spifflop were killed because they were scum wagons and no one was ever going to vote them. Given a scum lynch on day 1 with a large townblock that was all townreading each other, scum had no choice. If that townblock kept going, scum were likely to be lynched.

DS and EE interactions on this day alone are terrible. I engage EE in a discussion of DS reads. EE takes DS is probably town. I ask him not subtly because I am not subtle, what he'd do if a "little birdie" said DS was guilty. It lacked so much subtlety that DS was wondering why I was being coy. EE's response, asking if I was certain, was the wrong one. If someone is crumbing a cop guilty, you don't ask them if they are certain. You vote or challenge it.

Upon finding out my guilty was fake, EE votes the counterwagon to DS without any reason or prior expressed suspicion. There's zero thought as to sorting out why I punked him or thought he was partners with DS or why I didn't keep the charade up longer.

In 2014, I bat my eyelashes to get Spider Gwen to vote scum. She agrees. EE later tries to paint that as bullying.

Ee's response to me politely asking my mason buddy (hi scum wifom) SG to vote is to say

"let's get this over with"

and vote DS. Given scum couldn't coordinate with daychat to get a counterwagon to Klingon, who arguably had scum's most important role, they would feel very defeated I locked onto another scum. Elyse, TWIE, and TSO also saw the same issue simultaneously.

On page 82 now, EE is on a kick that I demanded people vote Dapper. Now, I don't think batting eyelashes is a demand or EE must not get laid much. It's flirty whimsical and everything but a demand. He uses that attack to avoid addressing the concern, which asked him to identify any alleged bullshit he's frustrated with. Instead, he AtEs saying I am going to prove I am town by self-voting. He spews about how this isn't anti-wincon. However, he does imply that town are following me. That is extremely useful as it practically confirms the people vote parked on Klingon yesterday as town.

Onto page 83 now, EE tries to push us for pushing BS and stating in a smaller game he wouldn't put up with this. He has never stated what said BS is. Second, I basically ended the day saying vote Klingon and not engaging anyone because it was clear scum were not going to bus until inevitable.

2057, Dapper prematurely claims in the thread VT and throws dirt. He says to quicklynch him. This is indicative of major fear and survival instinct given the day just started.

Onto page 84, DS tries to gambit cop and fails hysterically. Like no one is going to believe that ever. You can't ask for your own speed lynch and then try to imply you're the cop with a guilty. SG and I recognize this for what it is. DS is cop fishing. In 2090, he asks SG to claim cop or scum because she won't mislynch me.

This confirms DS knows I am town.

given DS is cop hunting, SG and I unite to say speed lynch.

On page 85, EE is discussing whether he should vote DS with DS in the public chat.

Pages 86-87, I imply one of us could be friendly neighbor. DS's response is another rolefish.

So no, I don't see any reason why anyone has DS as town.

@DS,

TSO hydraed with me as scum. He was annoyed because I wouldn't bus Frogger. We had a huge fight. Good luck selling that fiction.

[Passionate Storm]

Your own answer actually damns you. You're that 2nd person hoping to get away with things.

[Passionate Storm]

Yo! Jeanne, talk about why you suspected Elyse please.

[Passionate Storm]

I think it was because her statements gave me 'scum vibe' for a while. Upon rereading, however, I started thinking otherwise.

[Passionate Storm]

@DS Like your irl case that you made up on a spot to avoid getting caught, as well as the fact you want us to die.

[Passionate Storm]

I think it was because her statements gave me 'scum vibe' for a while. Upon rereading, however, I started thinking otherwise.

Which statements?

While we know Elyse cannot be group scum, those feelings have to be investigated given two likely evil killers.elyse can then defend against them to confirm or deny the suspicions.

Second, I am fully capable of being wrong. Moon logic can be wrong.

[Passionate Storm]

At the beginning. The very beginning. I felt like she was coaching Eagle or something.

[Passionate Storm]

Moon logic can be wrong, yes, but it rarely is.

[Passionate Storm]

So you're scum. Thank you.

[Passionate Storm]

At the beginning. The very beginning. I felt like she [elyse] was coaching Eagle or something.

Then you eliminated that after Klingon's flip?

[Passionate Storm]

Any good townie like you claim to be would see that we have reason to think you're scum, and the fact that you refused to answer my scenario proves you are scum.

p-edit: That's what it boils down to.

[Passionate Storm]

Ok. Great. That doesn't really fit as SK suspicion, so we can move on.

Let's stop engage scum Jeanne and go to our other games and talk in hydra about a read wall.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Wait, so now I am scum to you Titus?

[Passionate Storm]

So you're scum. Thank you.

No matter how many iMessage you say that, it isn't making it right nor will you get the pass of -err, I just messed up...on reading the one person who Titus is as transparent to as I am to her. You don't know about our history do you Jeanne? I've never once as town mislynched her, nor she me.

You do realize that scum wouldn't admit to being scum? Well, guess what, you wouldn't either, so I think it makes it right. I mean, it's not like you would admit it.

[Passionate Storm]

There is a fine line between being Titus and being me. It takes a man to realize it. Are you really a man, DS?

[Passionate Storm]

And here he dodges out point about how he wouldn't admit to being scum if he were one and instead mounts it on us.

Now excuse me, I am going to HQ to drink some brain bleach.

[Passionate Storm]

Well, goodbye then everyone. If you still scumread us by the time we get back, we'll be glad to claim.

[Passionate Storm]

And so you digress into put downs when I get a slip from your less experienced head? Wow. Do you know what it means to be a person or is that taken away when you pass the BAR?

All posting since I asked us to only post in hydra chat have been Jeanne. P.s. The attacking my job is not cool.

Jeanne, hydra pt baby doll please.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

hey what if both of you stopped posting though.

2262 will be page topped (or as close as I can get to it) until it's adequately explained by a competent third party.

no u

[Passionate Storm]

@Titus already there

[Passionate Storm]

Sure, I am a troll who would scum-slip for no reason.

[Passionate Storm]

We're out for 24 hours unless someone has a question for us. I don't think any further interaction with DS is helpful as they are just trying to latch onto whatever they can.

We'll gladly answer questions, but we don't want the game clogged here.

We will be ignoring any questions from DS regarding slips etc. stating that scum don't admit to being scum isn't a slip. I think that's obvious you're trying to rile Jeanne to get credibility than caring about her reads.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Yeah. Jeanne is saying DS is not a special snowflake. She said scum don't admit they are scum, and DS isn't the exception.

Any other questions?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

@garmr, jumping in here since I think my thoughts may help. Don't like Shiro trying to counter obvious scum yesterday and today. Does that bother you? Jeanne and I are trying to sort out townbeard or scum. :/ either scum planned it or jumped on as the mislynch of last resort.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Titus will you help me with Alchemist tommrow if I assist with DS ?

No. EE is after Dapper. Then Random if I have any say.

I can help you look into Alch but there are too many obvious scum.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

If I am wrong about any of those, then Alchemist can be bumped up.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

We're working on that. We'll get back to you asap.

[Passionate Storm]

I don't believe either of us have checked in yet.

So hi game!

-Fresh

I'll suppose that's why you're not voting anyone Dapper.

Jeanne and I feel a wall post is more effective than back and forth you're scum posting.

Who do you scumread minus obvtown Gwen and I?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

And I totally quoted the wrong post.

See what happens when you distract me?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Stop talking to DS, he is a crazy scumbag

- green

[Passionate Storm]

Okie dokie.

Your thoughts? My gut has gas.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

@Stormy: I think you're right on Eagle.

Good. Then, we are in a good position.

@EE, I think this was a cult less game advertised. Let me check. I can't see town beating a cult, SK, and mafia anyway so I am going to say no cult.

[Passionate Storm]

Yeah, cult is a bastard role probably. Can check.

Mod: you said no bastard roles but alignment changes are possible. Do you consider cults bastard?

[Passionate Storm]

@SG, maybe we can reread alchemist tonight? Neither of my heads feels good about him, but at the same time too many obvious scum to work with Shiro.

[Passionate Storm]

Funny how all of a sudden Gwen is on Titus' side. Are y'all cult?

Your likelihood of being scum has increased by 50 percent.

[Passionate Storm]

Leaning towards agreeing FB is scum.

Shiro are you fun beautiful and intelligent

[Passionate Storm]

@shiro, ok. Well if we get confirmation you are, Alch becomes a high priority lynch, or we can force him to kill scums. If he doesn't kill scums, we lynch him.

Our Reads

Garmr - town by ISO
I Am Innocent - null
inte - null/lean scum, AJ has a point on inte scum
PeregrineV - lean scum, why sign up if you're not going to play
Dapper Stranger - scum
Spider Gwen - town, mason buddy, friendly neighbor, cop, cop check target, just all around obvtown
Aunt Jemina - strong lean town, first to vote Klingon high push there
TheWayItEnds - town
T S O - town
Shiro - townbeard or scum, gun to head townbeard, we both have issues w Shiro's recent posting
My Other Head Is Scum - lean scum, posts such as 260 560 561 843 and 864
Alchemist21 - lean scum
Extrapolated Eagle - scum
Aneninen - null, lean alignment changer, not to thrilled about the fake clotid claim
randomidget - scum, for posts like no reasons I am scum
Errantparabola - lean town, EE voted him w no suspicion today
Elyse - Town
grapes - Strong scum lean for 224, 1004, 1948
Varsoon - Lean town needs more effort

[Passionate Storm]

You're whining again FB.

[Passionate Storm]

Well, since we're so dumb, maybe you can do a proper readwall with lol all the answers?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Like every single read.

[Passionate Storm]

All you're doing is whining.

Go find me scum. The more scum you find, the more you can whine k?

[Passionate Storm]

(3)

i hate you.

You've never liked me. What's the change then?

The change is that for a second i thought your ability was a real thing.

(5)

So hey guys. I guess Kling was scum and not mislynch bait.
Who would have thunk it.
How are you all doing?
-Fire

I strongly dislike this. They're "over-aware" of the fact they was away from the Klingonette-wagon. (I mean, I was away too. I misread her. Then what? Need I care how much towncredit I earn or lose?)
That "How are you all doing?" is a kind of "I'm here so as to do nothing and willing to fly on under the radar".
Their vote in their next post is the cherry on the ginger pie.

I strongly disagree. Thats a town post.

MOHIS is hard town for me.

Jeanne and I disagree but not so much where fighting this is a high priority at the moment. We agree on the next 2 - 3 scum and Mohis will confirm himself one way or the other by then.

[Passionate Storm]

MOHIS is hard town for me.

How am I town for you?

Like I should be Null at best for everyone. I haven't made actual content post or post many thoughts this game.

Where are you getting this?

Jeez, TheWayItEnds that just feels odd.

I don't even think I should be viewed as town at this moment, and I saw my role pm.

-Fire

This response is pretty townie. Lols.

[Passionate Storm]

@errant, why not?

@twie, can you vote DS for me? I think vca is dead this game.

[Passionate Storm]

You guys are pretty much just sticking scraps of paper with people's names written on them and pulling them out of a hat to decide who is and who isn't scum aren't you? This game thus far has the least amount of (explained at the very least) thought process behind it.

I explained my read on alchemist and look where it got me ?

I have the amazing amount of 1 vote on him. That being my own

In any other game, you would probably have more votes on Alch. DS and EE just pretty much hard scumclaimed.

[Passionate Storm]

@Shiro, It may have been the best kill in a limited pool. Scum must kill within the large town block that lynched Shiro if Dapper is scum. SG and I are usually paranoid of each other. Same with me and Elyse. Killing any of those robs a potential mislynch. TSO usually lurks. Both scum killers decided that town block must die. There was no good kill for DS scum. Take out who will lead your lynch.

As for where DS scumclaimed, the self vote while throwing shade is a scumclaim. The whole fake cop thing after deciding he was the best lynch is fighting to survive after stating he was the best lynch. Then the repeated attempts to out the cop/friendly neighbor (if existing). He revealed he knew I was town as he did this. He's saying we're all stupid but making no effort to sort anyone.

[Passionate Storm]

@Shiro, KC was the encryptor, a role any scumteam desperately wants to save. I would be more inclined to think Alch is SK than groupscum. It doesn't make sense scum would counter group scum with another groupscum. Possible, yes. Likely, no.

But I will think about it during night.

[Passionate Storm]

If that theory is right, you're not likely group scum as scum would need a not group scum to sheep extensively as they did.

[Passionate Storm]

Mod: How will night be handled if there's a hammer?

[Passionate Storm]

All I want for Christmas is a scum lynch... :-p

Ty, mod.

[Passionate Storm]

@aneninen,

I am going to explain why Gwen is town. This is practically the only time I have said this in the history of mafia scum. You'll have to come in close. Closer. Even closer. Good. Close enough where I am practically nibbling on your ear.

BECAUSE I SAID SO!

Good reason, don't you think?

Merry Christmas.

[Passionate Storm]

If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.

And since when is a man EVER textbook?

A Girl is gonna troll the man. Because a Girl is far superior. A Girl decrees that a Man is a textbook.

[Passionate Storm]

If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.

And since when is a man EVER textbook?

A Girl is gonna troll the man. Because a Girl is far superior. A Girl decrees that a Man is a textbook.

Wow. A girl has learned to troll much more effectively and in fewer posts. The Roman is impressed.

[Passionate Storm]

Oh! I found it: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=38643

That's why I couldn't remember my username. I went by a different one when I made my mafiascum account. I was actually tr1ckster.

For people who are curious, yes, I pulled a gambit in this one too, although again my self analysis of said gambit was shit. So perhaps it is this game as well. But I think this is proof that I try pretty crazy stuff for anyone wondering.

I wonder if moon is still around

I will humor you but only because it will likely give information about the scums.

What gambit did you pull? What were the results?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

That's a silly excuse to try to talk to me, Titus. How about: hey I think maybe I might be wrong let's talk because I'm having second thoughts on my shifty read of dapper.

But it's been a long time. years, apparently. Let me reread it again and I'll tell you in a bit.

That would be lying. My reads do not change without evidence.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

I have zero reason to care or believe you had a gambit going if you won't tell me what it was.

You want me to reconsider Dapper, give me a reason to.

[Passionate Storm]

You never have second thoughts on your reads, Titus? That's scares me actually. And it scares me that people would sheep someone like that.

If something occurs in thread to give me second thoughts, sure. That would be new evidence.

Facts, however, do not change.

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

I will readily admit I have an ego. But it is very usually backed up by me being right. Consider this game - there have been three flips, and I have been extremely clear on my reads on each, and they've all been right. I would not be egotistical this game if I had been wrong multiple times.

Where's a quickhammer when you need one?

I agree.

~Titus

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EE we can debate scumhunting theory, or you can explain said gambit.

If dapper replies before hand, I am not going to buy you were gambiting.

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You claiming vig that shot spiffy? Otherwise, why ask?

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You could actually compare flavor. In most of his games, Jason uses faction specific kill flavor. Killed is mafia. Pool of blood is SK.