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↑ massive wrote:Well, I'm not gonna lie, I had a lot of quotes and a vote for you, but then a lot of it got covered as I was going through the pages. It was what was left.

This really isn't good enough. I have no idea where you stand on what is happening in the thread right now.

Titus and I are in almost 100% agreement over our reads. Reasons might be a little different but meh.

^
-Dad

We have been trying not to clutter the thread because we both generally post a butt ton.

-Dad

↑ massive wrote:What's the criteria here? Why is SirCakez the "early wagon on town" but I wasn't?

This seems weirdly self-conscious. Your wagon felt like it was mostly an attempt to drag the game out of RVS, no one gave any specific or particular reasons for voting you, and it died immediately, lasting maybe two pages at most. Hardly a legitimate wagon.

The difference is with SirCakez we have people making cases on him and pushing him as scum. Aside from BBT's 61 calling you scum, I don't think this was ever the case with your wagon.

↑ ɀefiend wrote:Do you see the irony in italics here?

Is that supposed to imply that Firebringer isn't playing the game? If so, what gives you that impression?

My point was just that policy lynches give everyone an excuse to not scumhunt. I don't think BBT is scummy for suggesting it but it's a bad idea regardless.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I feel like you've asked NH a loaded question and are now trying to push them based on their answer. I don't like this at all.

Also, your wording suggests that at this time you're reading SC as scum, is that correct? Because if so, you need to explain why NH's read is forced and if not, you need to explain the line that says 'not reading SC as strongly as scum as they are'.

I don't think I ever pushed NH, I poked at them to get a reaction and develop a read. If I were pushing them I'd be voting them.

My phrasing there isn't clear though, at the time I was null on SirCakez. I wanted to emphasize that I didn't think their reasons for scumreading him were all that alignment indicative. Basically, instead of reading it as "I'm seeing him scum, but not as much as they are", which seems to be how you're interpreting it, it should be read like "I see what they're saying, but I don't think it necessarily makes him scum".

I thought their points in 83 were valid, but then their 90 was way overconfident and I don't see pro-town motivation in it. Further, 106 didn't really show any of the deeper level thinking or doubt that I was looking for with my question, it was just "he's scummy". Again, I didn't really disagree with their points about SC, but I didn't think they were as indicative as NH seemingly thinks they are in 90 and 106.

↑ Firebringer wrote:

↑ ɀefiend wrote:

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:Also, I am against a Fire policy lynch. Either you think he's scum or you don't, we're not going to give everyone convenient excuses to join a wagon

without trying to play the game

. Policy lynches are terribly anti-town.

Do you see the irony in italics here?

If you are saying I am not playing the game I think you can't read....like at all.

Not playing the game = Not Posting.
If your posting your playing.

And I have been scumhunting so don't even go there.

Sure, you have been in attendance every day. But you will still get an F in scumhunting this semester. [/theme joke]

The majority of your posts are fluff, unsubstantiated reads, or defeatist statements attempting to explain your attitude. Also, unrelated to BBT's policy, I will policy lynch defeatists who say they don't care if they get lynched. Better off to never have even joined the game with an attitude like that.

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ ɀefiend wrote:Do you see the irony in italics here?

Is that supposed to imply that Firebringer isn't playing the game? If so, what gives you that impression?

My point was just that policy lynches give everyone an excuse to not scumhunt. I don't think BBT is scummy for suggesting it but it's a bad idea regardless.

See the above post.

As I pointed out earlier, I am not suggesting we policy lynch immediately and call it a day. I am stating that if worse comes to worse towards the end of the day, I will be happy to fall back on a policy lynch candidate.

↑ ɀefiend wrote:Sure, you have been in attendance every day. But you will still get an F in scumhunting this semester. [/theme joke]

The majority of your posts are fluff, unsubstantiated reads, or defeatist statements attempting to explain your attitude. Also, unrelated to BBT's policy, I will policy lynch defeatists who say they don't care if they get lynched. Better off to never have even joined the game with an attitude like that.

First off horrible joke.

Second off, I honestly don't care if I get lynched. I hope you push me for that too because thats a silly reason to push someone. Survivalism is more important to scum than town and a policy lynch is ridiculous. But if you are going to do it then do it.

Unfortunately for you and everyone else. I have a PR this game. So lynching me isn't really that good of an idea to just to get rid of a hard to read slot.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Nice. Talk to me about this (my one and only reach out to you. Blow me off with some sarcastic bullshit and I promise you I will lynch you D1 even if someone outright claims scum.)

This says:

"Do what I say or otherwise I will lynch your regardless of your role or if someone is far scummier than you"

Who the fuck you think you are dude?

You just played with me in Walking Dead mafia and knew how I reacted to everyone shitting on me there.
You are acting like a scum player just by how you interact with a player that doesn't take well to pushes.

I am not answering your questions because you threaten me.

I don't play that way.

Why are there so many people still sitting on RVS votes?
Fire is your massive vote serious now or have you just not bothered to move it?

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:This really isn't good enough. I have no idea where you stand on what is happening in the thread right now.

I'm reading it all and I'm trying to figure out who I want to work with / who sounds reasonable. It's not quite so cut and dry this game, and it's early going, and I don't have experience with most of these players. It's not like I've played twenty games with Titus and can magically townread her, or throw out "BBT is scum" because we're always opposite alignment.

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:The difference is with SirCakez we have people making cases on him and pushing him as scum. Aside from BBT's 61 calling you scum, I don't think this was ever the case with your wagon.

I'm aware, I was just curious if you were. In any case, I don't find it a reason to townread SirCakez, so this seems a little easy on your part.

↑ SirCakez wrote:Fire is your massive vote serious now or have you just not bothered to move it?

Is it a good idea to keep WKing me when it didn't work out so well last time?

Hi guys I forgot I was part of this game sorry.

BlooP

No massive, it's just odd Fire has said he's scumreading Night Hunters but is still sitting on a pseudo-RVS vote.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Will get to this later, looks good though.

Also, I'm down for policy lynching Fire.

I hate policy lynches. They're never good for town, unless by some happenstance it's scum. I've seen FB play several games and they've almost always been similar, scum or town. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and see if I can't derive anything from further game play.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Prod received. (Typically not on ont he weekends- sorry guys).

Anyways,

Vote: ɀefiend

What kind of character is that?

↑ PeregrineV wrote:I'm read and catch up today/tomorrow.

If you've read and caught up, does it seem like the game was not out of RVS to you? Most other people already did, and yet you threw down what seems to be an RVS vote.

↑ tojam2 wrote:The cakey wagon has kind of died out, a lot of you want either a Fire policy lynch or a Gl scum lynch, and seen as he voted for me basically for agreeing with someone else:

VOTE: GL

Can you please specify "a lot of you", because from what I saw it was a total of around 3 people.

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:nds up town, with at least one scum taking the easy vote onto the main center of attention.

So I'm slight townlean on SirCakez due to the amount of people pushing on him. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by focusing on perception, I'm trying to figure out if your scumreads are genuine.

Do you disagree with the arguments against him? Or do you just townread anyone that has a wagon forming on them?

↑ Aristophanes wrote:In prod range. Sorry.
Going to bed but I'll be here in the morning.

Hellloooooo? Already playing to your scum meta, Ari.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ shaddowez wrote:
I'm liking GuiltyLion's posting right now.

Talk to me about this because I'm not seeing it.

I liked his question to NH in 103 and his explanation in 108. I can see not liking his later posts, although 204 looks like he did actually put thought into what he was doing and is able to explain it again.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

↑ Firebringer wrote:Night Hunters is sure scummy IMO.
Wonder if anyone is going to call them out on it besides me.

Nice. Talk to me about this (my one and only reach out to you. Blow me off with some sarcastic bullshit and I promise you I will lynch you D1 even if someone outright claims scum.)

Again, I don't agree with this but it sounds like it's coming from town BBT.

Feeling a little green at the moment. Dwlee will be taking point for awhile. Hopefully just the day.

Being sick is an xpost on all games when I finish.

This is my off RVS vote:

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

That's cute.

I guess I'm gonna have to lynch you.

You can have until tomorrow though because I'm busy right now.

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:That's cute.

I guess I'm gonna have to lynch you.

You can have until tomorrow though because I'm busy right now.

I like your level of arrogance, but I don't consider that "town"
Your actions so far, are pretty anti town or at least neutral.

Keep saying that you must lynch me.

Cause thats really shows you are trying to scumhunt.

If this firebringer v bbt becomes a thing I'm taking BBT's side.

-Dad

↑ Night Hunters wrote:If this firebringer v bbt becomes a thing I'm taking BBT's side.

-Dad

I am a power role.

You want to take the side of BBT over what? You are scummy as shit and I have no idea if you are dumb enough to defend a teammate.

You two are probably not allied which means I am probably wrong about one of you.
Maybe BBT.

Oh I thought that pr claim was a joke

I'm taking no sides, then.

-Dad

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Oh I thought that pr claim was a joke

I'm taking no sides, then.

-Dad

I have never joke claimed a power role.

Do you honestly think I would do that?
The attempts to not take me serious in games just because I am light hearted amazes.

You should easily tell by my tone I am not joking.

I didnt think someone would claim PR at the slightest sign of pressure.
Seems reckless

-Dad