A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Dwlee99]

Mirhawk: I wasn't here, so yes, obviously I can't prove that Dwlee's thought process was terrible without the benefit of hindsight.

The fact that I can't prove that it was terrible, doesn't mean it wasn't. It was what it was, regardless of what I am capable of proving. And yes, you are correct, the only important thing is whether or not he sincerely believed it, which is why I backed off in the post you're talking about, and noted that it may have simply been bad town play, rather than scum.

snip

I wanted itlepip to vote too, and then I'd vote as well, and we'd have a wagon to rival TPPs, instead of a couple vanity votes.

??

[Dwlee99]

Occam's Razor: TPP is scum
Other possibility: TPP fakeclaimed an inno on someone (which he admitted to) in order to stop the vigilante from killing a town read of his that he is super confident in because of a neighborizor tictac had that he used on tpp where, also they had info on prs because they are good at picking up info on prs

At this point, I...think that if anyone had certain information that TPP's claims were false, they would have called BS and voted TPP already.

I'm tired and this possibly isn't the greatest idea, but I'm done with this dumbshit distraction.

Cakez is the vig; he crumbed shooting Snarky and then Snarky died. We thought he might be SK based on how blatant it was, pushed him, decided it wasn't the case.
Flubber is a JOAT with a Neighborize + Bulletproof + Investigative; Tictac used the neighborize on Plot N1, which Plot liked because Plot was his IC and they didn't think that a newbie scum would be willing to get a neighborhood with their IC. I thought that Tictac's reaction to Plot's more incoherent posting seemed ridiculously town; they mentioned that they were pretty paranoid of us before but thought that Plot seemed really vulnerable and that seemed really town to them + there was just a bunch of shit in that neighborhood I don't feel like elaborating on now.
When we crumbed the inno on Tictac, it was in response to Cakez probably shooting Tictac; we felt that he was very likely town based on neighborhood posting and knew that his kill failing was probably going to make him think that Tictac was 100% scum and we wanted to warn him off that before it happened.

The reason I said that this had nothing to do with our claim is because look, we still haven't claimed, and we've explained the PR thing! Plot overplayed it a bit because they were trying to emulate the Jingle wizard stuff from Original Mafia; Plot has other roles figured out (they knew Ogre was a not-significant investigative role earlier), but I really don't think outing any of that crap is relevant unless you believe we just haven't given enough or something stupid like that.

So, after all the hinting, does this boil down to: "We think TicTac/Flubber is Town b/c they neighborized us on N1 and they sound very Townie

in the neighborhood

?" b/c there's nothing about the role (as claimed) that makes it Town, and Tic's posting in this game thread is pretty medium. Also, if you were scum with a Neighborize, how would you use it? Don't you hit up someone in the Town you think you can get on their good side of? I'm not sure about your logic of "they wouldn't pick me if they were scum b/c they would be afraid I would see through them." And TicTac made himself bulletproof on N2 and no one died so maybe the vig. took a shot at him? Which is possible, but also doesn't say anything about TicTac's alignment. The fact they still have an investigate in their pocket also seems somewhat convenient. That would have been the first thing I shot off if I had those abilities.

I like you

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Tpp

Full AP nautilus and burst em

[Dwlee99]

But.mirhawk is one of the only people who wasnt an idiot around tpp's shit

[Dwlee99]

nope
Fuck this wagon

[Dwlee99]

I want everyone to read 465 and 697 and tell me why Axel is conveniently not in the readlist after Sky defended him.

Also Dwlee stop being just wrong.

wiefj0igorvbh42euirgvehwghfuidsgh

[Dwlee99]

I just got out of a game where I lost because people won't listen to me, not happening again.

[Dwlee99]

I just got out of a game where I lost because people won't listen to me, not happening again.

Are you upset because people don't want to lynch TPP

right now

? Or is it something else?
They're certainly not in my cleared pile. And there are definitely multiple scum, why would it matter what order we lynch them?

FS is genuine af. Mirhawk was one of the only people who wasnt a total idiot after tpp claimed stuff. And yet people want to lynch both of them and not TPP.

[Dwlee99]

hi ok so mirhawk makes good points when he says exaggerating the tictac town read to being an innocent doesn't come from town, i think. Like if you do that when someone calls you out you dont say "oh yea this was a soft"

[Dwlee99]

You know what, I honestly believe that there is a reasonable chance that maybe flubber isn't a neighborizer but is playing along just to fuck with us...

what lol

[Dwlee99]

oh

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee I thought you were town but all of your pushes and defenses are the exact opposite of where my reads are and it makes me wary

stop being wrong? ????

[Dwlee99]

I would have more faith in you but you spent most of yesterday driving attention away from Skybird.

why is tpp town. please inform me.

[Dwlee99]

hi ok so mirhawk makes good points when he says exaggerating the tictac town read to being an innocent doesn't come from town, i think. Like if you do that when someone calls you out you dont say "oh yea this was a soft"

^ this is why he's scum

[Dwlee99]

nah, he's just an idiot.
Moving along, that's a pretty bad lynch list you've got TO. 4 town 1 scum?

Yeah thanks, I know how AND gates work.

I think Seniors is more likely to be town than Cerberus if only one is scum, but I think there's a decent chance they're both scum.
I think the only way they're both town is if Piper is scum, and that's not the jumpoff I want to make today.
Axel I haven't liked much of any of the pushes he's made, and am waiting for him to shit townbricks if he's town. Failing that, he's probably scum.

You're on a timer for me. So few posts and so rarely connecting the dots with reason. And below*
Dwlee I think might have a chance to settle down but I need him to branch out onto other reads, because for the time being, he has 190871987 posts where he states his opinion and they all happen to be the same. So that's pure compromise.

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*But I think I'm a bit behind on your scumreads at this point in time.
You had Axel Podo dave
Then at some point you added Piper
And I guess at some point you removed dave, otherwise you'd be worried about Marquis
So now it's Axel podo Piper?
Were you surprised at Skybird's scumflip?
And Piper bussed Skybird?
That last question is really the crux.
Note: I'll also accept "Piper's the SK" because that's crossed my mind.

I found scum. Lynch them. I don't need to say who I'm town reading unless it is to stop their death.

[Dwlee99]

I found scum. Lynch them. I don't need to say who I'm town reading unless it is to stop their death.

Okay then. Is there anyone else who you think is also scum who might be lynched today?

nope, cause we're lynching tpp.

[Dwlee99]

i have said all I need to say about it and you guys just sit there shaking your heads instead of engaging my case.

[Dwlee99]

They stated that they couldn't disclose why they thought Tictac was town "without outing a bunch of PRs for no reason" (exact wording) in 3920.

They later admitted that the only PR they would have to out was Tictac himself. This was in 4302.

To be perfectly honest I think they could have done that without giving as much of Tictac's role away as well, but that's more opinion then anything else.

^ +admitting an inno soft on tictac

[Dwlee99]

yo @TPP
You said that you couldnt reveal info on tictac without oyting a bunch of prs. How do the other prs have to do with the soft you put on tictac?

[Dwlee99]

lol tpp keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. Pleasr eat rope, friend. <3

[Dwlee99]

Sheeping Dwlee
Cuz Ima me
VOTE: Piper

[Dwlee99]

^^^^

[Dwlee99]

just like my mixtape

[Dwlee99]

why did you post a picture of a hearthstone player in response to my mixtape

[Dwlee99]

I didn't see your mixtape and I'm watching Kripp's stream on delay right now.
And I like Kripp.

but it's fire

[Dwlee99]

Well one of the songs is:
"Lynch TPP
He ain't got no consistency
He's a baddie
and he needs to eat that rope
he really ain't dope
before he tricks the town
he better go down"

[Dwlee99]

I think he's town. He doesn't come in often but when he does he is making good pushes on TPP that I relate to.
pedit thanks!

[Dwlee99]

pedit: it was at the start of day 3 that nacho said there wasn't an SK. By that, he meant "I am townreading Cakes".

There's no SK.

bbbbback track

[Dwlee99]

Please don't tell me what Nacho meant, though.
I like to extract that kind of content from his brain directly

he was trying to address his partners statements before it was seen as scummy and didnt do very well :^)

[Dwlee99]

No I have not

[Dwlee99]

I never played with town you

[Dwlee99]

LOL ok, sure. bahahahahha

[Dwlee99]

Eat rope if you want to.prove me.wrong

[Dwlee99]

OGRE

[Dwlee99]

The posts are so long no one reads them. dank scum strategy tbh

[Dwlee99]

TPP's FS case is "optimally town would do this and they didnt do that" which is a bs reason to scumread someone and I believe is plot is as good as people make him out to be he would realize that. "Optimally town wouldnt lurk" doesnt mean that lurking is a scum tell? Your reasons are bullshit and you should know that, tpp.

[Dwlee99]

They are obviously town to me and yet you push them for BoP reasons which is shitty. This is the time of the year with finals happening (I have my first final for AP gov in two hours wish me luck!!) so obviously they wont be playing as well as they normally do (according to you, anyway).

[Dwlee99]

Your case is talking about how they didnt reevaluate their reads after a skybird flip, skybird flipped recently

[Dwlee99]

theyre still town

[Dwlee99]

since when am I scum reading flubber? And ogre town, marquis town, dramonic town, cakez town

[Dwlee99]

since when am I scum reading flubber? And ogre town, marquis town, dramonic town, cakez town

Ok so no, this seniors wagon is trash.
Tictac called marquis scum for their.skybird push, let's lynch them tyvm

Flubbernugget has replaced tictac.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear that you're no longer scumreading flubber.

that was like 1000 posts ago and since then flubber's posts have looked p good so I have moved the slot to null-townish
@Cakez, I do when I believe I caught scum.

[Dwlee99]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64409
I did this game although I ended up being wrong.

[Dwlee99]

I will only be appeased by a tpp lynch

[Dwlee99]

I know you don't. In the event you are wrong though, would it have an effect on any of your reads?

Well it means I'm probably wrong about one of my reads, clearly?

Dramonic is sassy today

[Dwlee99]

QUICK FLASH WAGON TPP

[Dwlee99]

No Dwlee. Not over my dead body

how about besides your dead body?

[Dwlee99]

Mine is current.

[Dwlee99]

oh mine is on broadway

[Dwlee99]

DONT TOUCH MY BBY SIRCAKEZ D:<

[Dwlee99]

Hip/Errant I can compromise on axel if you can summarize the case but I realllyyyyy want to lynch tpp >.<
pedit Wow I.annoy you?

[Dwlee99]

Axel explain without a.wall.your cakez read

[Dwlee99]

Mirhawk came out lookinf town in that back and forth imo. what changed your mind, ogre?

[Dwlee99]

I wouldnt lynch myself over them but I also wouldnt WANT to lynch my town read

[Dwlee99]

Yes I am still in my piper thing

[Dwlee99]

lmaoo

[Dwlee99]

Yehwell. Do you think Piper's actually being lynched today Dwlee?

Shall we converge on Axel instead?

it is possible

[Dwlee99]

i haven't read the last like 3 pages but we're lynching tpp right?

[Dwlee99]

do i seriously have to compromise lynch

[Dwlee99]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

[Dwlee99]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

TPP or Axel.

vote: TPP

people dont want tpp lynched. do you want to move to axel?

[Dwlee99]

I"m already on tpp, podo. lol

[Dwlee99]

I don't even read TPP's posts.

[Dwlee99]

you spam the thread with long elaborate sentences and I dont have the mental capacity to deal with that and you did the same thing to me in history mafia.

[Dwlee99]

you spam the thread with long elaborate sentences and I dont have the mental capacity to deal with that and you did the same thing to me in history mafia.

<---isn't plotinus

close enough. You could be doing the same exact thing

I don't even read TPP's posts.

How do we ever lynch scum!TPP when THIS kind of content is the wagon against them?

please fight me

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: thepiedpiper

[Dwlee99]

holy fuck is there seriously a mirhawk wagon right now

[Dwlee99]

Cant believe mirhawk wagon is a thingggg

[Dwlee99]

THEPIEDPIPER LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR DAYSSSSS

[Dwlee99]

another reminder to lynch tpp~

[Dwlee99]

How about we lynch you?
VOTE: dwlee

[Dwlee99]

cakez can you just vote tpp please?

[Dwlee99]

cakez can you just vote tpp please?

Why would he do that again?

well I'm town reading sircakez. And it is in town's best interest to lynch scum. So cakez should vote tpp because tpp is scum. I don't understand how a lot of people think the way they lied about their role and claimed to have info on prs can come from town??

[Dwlee99]

cakez can you just vote tpp please?

Why would he do that again?

well I'm town reading sircakez. And it is in town's best interest to lynch scum. So cakez should vote tpp because tpp is scum. I don't understand how a lot of people think the way they lied about their role and claimed to have info on prs can come from town??

Explain to me how any of that would have been of any benefit to them if they were scum.

A nice, clear roadmap of a reasonable line of play they had in mind for after that series of events played out, or simply a list of the pros and cons for doing so, if they were scum.

Claim to have info on prs -> No one pressures for a claim cause of it -> more time to come up with a claim

[Dwlee99]

now please make a roadmap of why it is something town would do :^)

[Dwlee99]

....that's ridiculous. Nobody was ever asking them for a claim?

I already outlined why it's useful to town. Easy way to obfuscate the true investigative while still sharing his results with town.

they had to explain their claimed inno on tictac/flubber and just ended up making it worse for themselves and had to back track. And just no. You can obfuscate the true investigative without lying about having info about prs.

[Dwlee99]

*sigh* I'm not going to waste any more time talking to you about this dwlee, because you don't actually seem to understand what happened or their explanations.

^{o}_{o}^

I think you don't understand.

[Dwlee99]

Holy shit. Shotty.

[Dwlee99]

This is a clown fiesta. God bless your soul, mirhawk.
Okay imitating norbert is fun BUT SERIOUSLY JDNDNJD

[Dwlee99]

You quickhammered with a sheep vote. That is literally exactly what I was told to.do in cyberpunk.mafia by.my scum team.

[Dwlee99]

Oh ok well I am counterclaiming flubber's tracker. I await your response flubber :^)

[Dwlee99]

LET HIM ANSWER FOR HIMSELF CERB

[Dwlee99]

And Joat with tracker AND tracker AND watcher doesnt make much sense

[Dwlee99]

holy fuck cerb shhhh

[Dwlee99]

Flubber I am counterclaiming your tracker

[Dwlee99]

Um

You knew I had an investigate for a long time as part of my JOAT and are just showing concern

now

?

I cc'd the moment you claimed tracker.

[Dwlee99]

well maybe not THE MOMENT but after we realized the hammer was fake

[Dwlee99]

FLUBBER I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION FOR US BOTH HAVING TRACKER CRAP

[Dwlee99]

ugh so I was trying to get a reaction but I only got reactions from people that aren't flubber. Flubber just straight up ignored me. =_=

[Dwlee99]

I think it could be town possibly just thinking there is no correlation between our roles and my cc means nothing?

[Dwlee99]

Yo, can someone run by me why Dwlee deathtunneled TPP for what he saw a slight inconsistency about roles but he isn't with flubber even though its a kind of CC?

It wasn't a real CC.

[Dwlee99]

oh

[Dwlee99]

oh

[Dwlee99]

Yo, can someone run by me why Dwlee deathtunneled TPP for what he saw a slight inconsistency about roles but he isn't with flubber even though its a kind of CC?

It wasn't a real CC.

@Mirhawk

[Dwlee99]

mirhawk are you on the tpp wagon?

[Dwlee99]

Vote: Piper

[Dwlee99]

BEETLEJUICE

[Dwlee99]

Wow so TPP.comes in says "0-1 scum.per level" and theb doesnt provide aby analysis of that. So townie!

[Dwlee99]

That isnt what Im talking about. Im talking about them saying that and then not even saying who the scum in the group is.

[Dwlee99]

That isnt what Im talking about. Im talking about them saying that and then not even saying who the scum in the group is.

I don't like giw solid and open you expect or want everyone's reads to be

I'm not saying I need solid reads given. A town mindset when doing that would be saying "I think there is 0-1 scum in this group, if there is scum in this group I think it is within {person 1, 2, 3} because I'm townreading {person 4, 5, 6}
They did "I think there is 0-1 scum in the group" without analyzing what that means and having that affect their reads.

[Dwlee99]

Yo tpp you just said the lists of people not your opinion

[Dwlee99]

Ok well scratch my last point doesnt change that tpp is scum

[Dwlee99]

mirhawk we should hydra.

[Dwlee99]

For your top scum read you just about never mention me lol

[Dwlee99]

Tpp's scumread on me is OMGUS, isnt it?

[Dwlee99]

Honestly agreeing with dram here.

[Dwlee99]

when are we lynching tpp?

[Dwlee99]

lowkey don't even want to read this game until tpp is lynched

[Dwlee99]

Dont try to push scum slips ffs
I once gave someone a town read for being the first on a wagon that hadnt even flipped scum yet after just sheeping my vote on the wagon. I was town lol

[Dwlee99]

I have not claimed flavor

[Dwlee99]

is tpp getting wagon'd yet?

[Dwlee99]

Why

[Dwlee99]

i don't see tpp votes???

[Dwlee99]

I've already said why they're scum, sircakez. It should have happened yesterday tbh

[Dwlee99]

I've already said why they're scum, sircakez. It should have happened yesterday tbh

But Mirhawk needs to die
After College Mafia I'm tempted to just sheep you though.

ffs mirhawk is town

[Dwlee99]

you should totes sheep me.

[Dwlee99]

Build a case as to how in whatever's name Mirhawk could be town.

he genuine af

[Dwlee99]

I could try to make a 'real' town case but I know he is town just by the tone of his posts

[Dwlee99]

boop morning reminder: All the cool kids are smoking tpp votes these days. (vote tpp)

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: tpp
i wanna be a cool kid.
plus tpps flip will be just as useful

ayyyy

[Dwlee99]

my religion tells me I must actively preach about tpp's need to be voted off the island.

[Dwlee99]

my religion tells me I must actively preach about tpp's need to be voted off the island.

How do I join the congregation formally.

Dip your head in olive juice while I sprinkle sparkles on you

[Dwlee99]

tbh sircakez l will probably just find the one from yesterday and post it if you force me to.case. I dont case often.

[Dwlee99]

Tpp, Im sorry as well

that you rolled scum

[Dwlee99]

I'm not being an ass. What the hell?

[Dwlee99]

There's some things I want to say but I know it is just cause I've been in a really crappy mood the past few days. Just don't make posts like that please.

[Dwlee99]

I'm not being an ass. What the hell?

"Hey this game is grating on me and some people are making an otherwise long game into something a little painful for me"
"yeah you wouldn't feel shitty if you weren't scum lolloloololoolololol"

.

That's not what I was saying. I was saying I apologize that he rolled scum causing him to get tunneled by me.
@Sircakez yo no we're not doing that

[Dwlee99]

I told you: Mirhawk is town

[Dwlee99]

lowkey wish you could just turn into a cuddly creature with soft white wool, ngl.

[Dwlee99]

I swear if one person accuses me of rnging my reads or saying I just randomly come up with them. Read college mafia. Read college mafia, my reads were on point.

[Dwlee99]

lol rng generator. Just realized it.

[Dwlee99]

k then. I might do some poking around mir's iso later

[Dwlee99]

holy shit dude.
You're the one being the ass today.

[Dwlee99]

[Dwlee99]

tbh sircakez l will probably just find the one from yesterday and post it if you force me to.case. I dont case often.

If you don't case, then why should anybody listen to you?

I'm gonna get to it eventually. shhh

[Dwlee99]

Someone tell me why I should vote said person.

(Hint don't ask me to vote piper or Mirhawk)

vote piper

[Dwlee99]

Holy fucking shit are we doing this again, remember how well this worked with FS? Stop Mling and forcing to vigi to hit in order for us to keep on winning this game.

But I was townreading fs.

[Dwlee99]

I'm so happy this is actually happening finally.

[Dwlee99]

I'm focused primarily on you, tpp. I'm not "updating" my read on you because there is nothing to update. I've thought you were scum since whatever that post was you linked and you still are. Your entire play revolving around your claim and the inno you had is scum. I'm not changing my mind on that. Not to mention you're just targeting me because I'm the main proponent of your lynch.

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, you overestimate your influence. Massively. If anyone is the cause of this lynch, it's Mirhawk. You're just an annoying little voice that keeps saying the same thing over and over again.

I'm focused primarily on you, tpp. I'm not "updating" my read on you because there is nothing to update. I've thought you were scum since whatever that post was you linked and you still are. Your entire play revolving around your claim and the inno you had is scum. I'm not changing my mind on that. Not to mention you're just targeting me because I'm the main proponent of your lynch.

If you were looking to refute my point that the only significant thing that you've done is push me, then I'd suggest digging up significant pushes or reads on other players.

If you were looking to refute my point that none of your reads has shown any sort of natural evolution (or anything but stagnation, really), I'd suggest you quote yourself changing your mind on someone in a natural looking way.

my refute to that is that I don't need to evolve my read on scum you?

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee what's your plan if this flips town?

It might give me the real push I need to stop playing this game, join extracurricular things and make new friends, start hanging out with current and new friends, tryhard in school, get into MIT, graduate valedictorian, be the next bill gates, marry the girl of my dreams named Alex, and have a successful and very happy life. Why?

[Dwlee99]

Ugh fuck is this another denmark mafia. Im going to look back onto.the claim thing and recheck the logic

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee what's your plan if this flips town?

It might give me the real push I need to stop playing this game, join extracurricular things and make new friends, start hanging out with current and new friends, tryhard in school, get into MIT, graduate valedictorian, be the next bill gates, marry the girl of my dreams named Alex, and have a successful and very happy life. Why?

You should do this anyway!

TPP please claim now rather then later

Mafia + League + On and off lack of motivation to do anything prevents it. Okay lemme go pull up what I.want to talk about with the claim and stuff

[Dwlee99]

l

not crumbing softing same thing

TPP what was your intention with that soft?

We've been saying we have

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reasons

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to believe that tictac is town since the start of day 2. It's just the first soft that anybody paid any attention to. I can't answer your question more fully without outing a bunch of PRs for no reason; sorry. If anybody I believed to be town were in danger of being lynched I'd explain enough to prevent that from happening but as it is all you really need to know is that I have a townread on tictac that will be explained sooner or later. Possibly sooner not until my hydra partner is less busy.

So here they say they crumbed stuff multiple times, but then they say people they believe to be town rather than people they know.are town. But the odd thinf is how they say their claim outs a bunch of prs. It doesnt make sense

[Dwlee99]

l

not crumbing softing same thing

TPP what was your intention with that soft?

We've been saying we have

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reasons

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to believe that tictac is town since the start of day 2. It's just the first soft that anybody paid any attention to. I can't answer your question more fully without outing a bunch of PRs for no reason; sorry. If anybody I believed to be town were in danger of being lynched I'd explain enough to prevent that from happening but as it is all you really need to know is that I have a townread on tictac that will be explained sooner or later. Possibly sooner not until my hydra partner is less busy.

So here they say they crumbed stuff multiple times, but then they say people they believe to be town rather than people they know.are town. But the odd thinf is how they say their claim outs a bunch of prs. It doesnt make sense

someone talk to me about this

[Dwlee99]

I have so much doubts about tpp now. I literally based my entire read on them off flawed logic wjxbejxjen

[Dwlee99]

[Dwlee99]

Cerb, you should hammer.
EDIT: Dwlee I swear to god if you unvote...

DRAM EXPLAIN WHY YOU SCUM READ TPP CAUSE MY LOGIC NO WORK

[Dwlee99]

Thank you.
You may now continue spouting useless drivel.

Please stop directing stuff like this towards Plot specifically.

Would you feel better if I replaced useless drivel with white noise?

EDIT: Dwlee, your logic never worked, I just let you jump around cuz even with wrong logic, you're still on the right wagon.

UNVOTE:
Until you convince me with your logic

[Dwlee99]

Wow look at how convincing you are!!

[Dwlee99]

Thank you, dram, I love you too,

[Dwlee99]

^how to convince someone of your reads 101

[Dwlee99]

I jist got hammered. lmao

[Dwlee99]

gj guys, hammer without a claim the beloved princess. 10/10

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count #4.10:

The Pied Piper:

Dwlee99, dramonic, Mirhawk, Marquis, drmyshottyizsik, podoboq (6)

Mirhawk:

itlepip, Flubbernugget (2)

podoboq:

Cerberus v666 (1)

SirCakez:

pistachi0n (1)

Cerberus v666:

The Pied Piper (1)

drmyshottyizsik:

SirCakez (1)

Not Voting:

Malakittens

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

SirCakez until 5/30.
Marquis until 5/31.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-05-29 21:40:00)

Dwlee99:

The central core of my read on Dwlee is that he isn't actually making an attempt to read the game; his reads aren't really based in anything and he just pushes for pushing's sake. The main argument against this, from what I can tell, is that "this is his normal meta", and that people don't believe that he is intelligent enough to actually read the game and get opinions on people. The major counter I have to this is actually looking at his town meta; in Micro 598, Dwlee had a strong suspicion of Magna based on what looked like a scum slip to him. In this game, after he thought a player had scumslipped, he argued with other players, speculated on alternate scumteams, and, at one pointed, voted his top suspect and unvoted 15 minutes later to deliberate about it some more. This is a trend in all of his town games that I've read; Dwlee very clearly and transparently thinks about the votes and pushes he's making as town. As scum? Not so much. In Cyberpunk after I was killed, the town began self-destructing a bit, and Dwlee always followed on the heels of their votes, and, most importantly, when he changed reads on people, he just changed them for little to no reason, and there was none of the consideration that he had elsewhere in figuring out the game. The only meaningful thing that Dwlee has done this entire day is push us, and he's been pushing us for a long time. But during this time, there's no point where his push changed or evolved; he started scumreading us in 3074 and there's been no progress at all since then. He used his scumread of us to avoid voting Skybird until suddenly we were close to hammering her and then he decided that he didn't like something she said, he talked a lot about swapping votes onto Axelrod but never followed through. And he doesn't have this problem with just us; his reads on everyone have been completely static. There's not a single read that he's had that's organically evolved or changed; they've all been completely the same, across the board.

Vote: Dwlee99

I plan on detailing all of my major reads (at least), but will be posting in chunks. I will claim before I leave for the night.

Maybe we can save you TPP!

VOTE: Dwlee99

you know I can see where this goes
VOTE: dwee

Because this town is composed of clownfucks and they know that once again, they're gonna dodge the rope in favor of some other sap who doesn't have enough cocksucking inertia to dodge it.

this lynch is your ass
VOTE: tpp

VOTE: Dwlee

I have so much doubts about tpp now. I literally based my entire read on them off flawed logic wjxbejxjen

This reads like you're bad scum who knows town is about to get lynched.

VOTE: dwlee

i'm willing to vote TPP if I wake up tomorrow morning and nobody's been lynched yet

VOTE: Dwlee

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: dwee I can get back to this

lmao.

[Dwlee99]

ngl you guys are p smart

[Dwlee99]

lolololol

[Dwlee99]

BA;HHHHHHHHHSHHSHSHHAHHHHHH

[Dwlee99]

gg
*hugs dram*

[Dwlee99]

gg
*hugs dram*

You twit <_<

<3

[Dwlee99]

Oh, btw plotinus, I actually used iso maps in bacanno mafia (the one in my signature). I saw you do it here and figured I might as well try it and was able to see who two dead town were scum reading and who they town read (They both town read one town and both scumread onr scum) which helped me get more engaged, etc. etc. So yea thanks!