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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:54 am
by Creature
UNVOTE: tojam2

I am going to unvote for now, I dislike DotW's pop in.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:56 am
by Creature
In post 199, tojam2 wrote:And I also don't trust you, you easily could have been buddying with CCM.
lmao

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:57 am
by Creature
Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:58 am
by eagerSnake
What else you got, tom?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:01 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 197, tojam2 wrote:
In post 189, Dragon of the West wrote:Okay sorry for the inactivity so far I've been busy the past two days. The vibes I'm getting so far are creature and tojam as the most scummy. Just reading over the thread creature seems to make a lot of cases that feel forced. Tojam has been iffy between being scarce and having early posts that didn't make much sense (although I may have just misinterpreted them). I haven't gotten a decent read on anyone else besides crazy's townslip.
VOTE: tojam L-1
Thanks for calling L-1, it helps us a lot, shame that one of you is probably going to lynch me now, then immediately think Creature is scum for pushing my wagon so hard, which could be correct, though it's unlikely as most of you have pointed out.
Can you explain this last part when you say "it's unlikely as most of you have pointed out". Are you saying you think creature is town? And if so why?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:03 am
by eagerSnake
I.e. if you were to die right now and show up town what would you want to show/tell us that will help us find scum

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:04 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.
In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:06 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.
Lol didn't even see this before I asked him to clarify

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:11 am
by Dwlee99
put back your vote, creature. tojam's attempt to discredit reads based on tone is icky.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:16 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 206, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.
In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.
In my mind there are 3 things this could be: 1) creature honestly believes this to be an affirmative townslip, 2) creature is trying to make crazy sound town as his partner, 3) creature knows that crazy is town because creature is mafia and creating an accurate town read gives creature more credibility

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:18 am
by Dwlee99
In post 197, tojam2 wrote:
In post 189, Dragon of the West wrote:Okay sorry for the inactivity so far I've been busy the past two days. The vibes I'm getting so far are creature and tojam as the most scummy. Just reading over the thread creature seems to make a lot of cases that feel forced. Tojam has been iffy between being scarce and having early posts that didn't make much sense (although I may have just misinterpreted them). I haven't gotten a decent read on anyone else besides crazy's townslip.
VOTE: tojam L-1
Thanks for calling L-1, it helps us a lot, shame that one of you is probably going to lynch me now, then immediately think Creature is scum for pushing my wagon so hard, which could be correct, though it's unlikely as most of you have pointed out.

Please do not use the word 'vibe', it means nothing in terms of the game and often leads to town lynches. If you do know for sure that a person is scum (or the whole partnership) say it out loud, especially if its LYLO (essentially you have to lynch and if you lynch wrong it's game over) or MYLO (lynch town and it's game over).

Fortunately I'm a Vanilla Townie (VT) so there's still 1 or 2 power roles left in town, if you are a PR, check Creature, but don't say if you are a PR now.
This entire post is bad.
I was able to correctly read tojam as town in college mafia but this game he is giving me the exact opposite feelings than I got from his town game.
Im really disliking eagersnake's whole "If you cant answer these questions dont lynch them!" If someone is scum theyre scum and we lynch them. We can pull associatives from things like wagon formation and the likes.
pedit I think this is creature's town game.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:20 am
by Creature
tojam2 is pretty scum, but I find it too early to lynch.

I am most likely leaning on LQ as tojam2's scumbuddy, but I don't want this game to be so easy.

DotW and atm487 are worth taking a look at imo.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:21 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 210, Dwlee99 wrote: pedit I think this is creature's town game.
I'm not so quick to agree with you here.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:21 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 208, Dwlee99 wrote:put back your vote, creature. tojam's attempt to discredit reads based on tone is icky.
The L-1 response was pretty much what I wanted to get and it didn't convince me tojam was town. If tojam turns mafia I'd be inclined to jump onto creature's wagon next

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:21 am
by Creature
In post 209, Dragon of the West wrote:In my mind there are 3 things this could be: 1) creature honestly believes this to be an affirmative townslip, 2) creature is trying to make crazy sound town as his partner, 3) creature knows that crazy is town because creature is mafia and creating an accurate town read gives creature more credibility
Congratulations, you narrowed it down to nothing!

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:23 am
by Creature
In post 206, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.
In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.
Or crazycrabman could've noticed me mentioning "scum PM" and thought mafia communicate between themselves through "scum PM"

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:24 am
by Dragon of the West
I'm okay with waiting to lynch though. We definitely can get more info first and I'd like to hear tojam's reads and what he'd want us to look at if he flips town

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:25 am
by eagerSnake
I'm okay with waiting to lynch though. We definitely can get more info first and I'd like to hear tojam's reads and what he'd want us to look at if he flips town
Definitely want to hear what he has for us before we do anything drastic.


I think we need to take a deeper look at Creature at this point

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:26 am
by Dwlee99
In post 211, Creature wrote:tojam2 is pretty scum, but I find it too early to lynch.

I am most likely leaning on LQ as tojam2's scumbuddy, but I don't want this game to be so easy.

DotW and atm487 are worth taking a look at imo.
I dont get why people think there are things like too early to lynch. You hit scum and can use the next day using the flip for information. Waiting to lynch often means that a lynch pegged on scum will fizzle out and people get cold feet.
DotW strikes me as town. Eagersnake is my guess at the second scum.
In post 213, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 208, Dwlee99 wrote:put back your vote, creature. tojam's attempt to discredit reads based on tone is icky.
The L-1 response was pretty much what I wanted to get and it didn't convince me tojam was town. If tojam turns mafia I'd be inclined to jump onto creature's wagon next
I agree. The L-1 post was really bad. I went back and looked over college mafia and am feeling even stronger about this not being tojam's town game.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:27 am
by Dragon of the West
In post 214, Creature wrote:
In post 209, Dragon of the West wrote:In my mind there are 3 things this could be: 1) creature honestly believes this to be an affirmative townslip, 2) creature is trying to make crazy sound town as his partner, 3) creature knows that crazy is town because creature is mafia and creating an accurate town read gives creature more credibility
Congratulations, you narrowed it down to nothing!
Well yeah as of now it's nothing. But as lynches and night kills happen this will push me towards one of those three more and more. And just having it written will let me go back to it easier and remember the interaction

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:28 am
by Dwlee99
Being able to read how genuine someone's posting is makes tojam feel like such obvious scum. All of their posts seem forced.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:28 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 215, Creature wrote:
In post 206, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 44, Creature wrote:tojam2 noticed he got a scum PM with so few newbies around and ran away.
In post 202, Creature wrote:Not fan of how you and LQ are trying to doubtcast CCM's townslip, "you easily could have been buddying with LQ"

Also, your post sounded like you know I am town.
Honestly I find it interesting that it was just coincidence that crazy "derp cleared" himself by using terminology that you have (loosely) used.
Or crazycrabman could've noticed me mentioning "scum PM" and thought mafia communicate between themselves through "scum PM"
I'm not ruling that out. But it would be nice to know for sure.

@crazycrabman, have you played forum mafia elsewhere where scum communicate via PM?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:29 am
by Creature
idk, maybe we can just lynch tojam2, LQ and DotW in that order.

I doubt anyone else is scum.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:30 am
by eagerSnake
In post 220, Dwlee99 wrote:Being able to read how genuine someone's posting is makes tojam feel like such obvious scum. All of their posts seem forced.
"their"

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:30 am
by Creature
LQ, tojam2 and DotW doubtcasting/discrediting my reads makes me feel I got all my town reads right.