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[Zyf]

She's town, dude.

Can you just trust my judgment on this one?

ok
sure i can trust you
if you can get her to stop misrepping me with every post and constantly calling me scum while voting you
no i didn't think so
because she sr's you too

[Zyf]

"I'm scummy from drawing attention away from town onto scum" "Creating noise is 100% scummy XDDDDD" "Pointing fingers to random people when I've given fact after fact"

"And i'm scummy for omgus" got it.

Anything else fucker

also who the fuck is RC

"fact after fact"
please excuse me while I go do some math
this is my last RL day interaction with you btw because you aren't thinking straight rn

[Zyf]

so uh yeah
about 110% of your content today has no reasoning

[Zyf]

Where did saru go, btw?

[Zyf]

HOW THE FUCK DO NONE OF YOU SEE HOW OBV ZYF IS BEING LIKE EVEN IF HE CLAIMED MAFIA I DON'T THINK YOU'D LYNCH HIM

I'm Mafia Rolecop

[Zyf]

Where did saru go, btw?

Doesn't matter. He's town.

I still don't really buy that

i'm waiting for vedith on that one

[Zyf]

VOTE: zyf

lmao

[Zyf]

Lmfao wait this wagon is still a thing I thought you guys would hop off by now

Never said the Saru wagon was bad. I got on it cause it wasn't a bad vote then I got off cause you're an asshole who's mafia that needs to get rope

U WOT M8

I thought the Saru wagon was a joke but it wasn't so I gave it a legit read.

He's called me scum for so many reasons

1) I thought something was a joke so I when I find out it wasn't I voted my scum buddy and got off

2) I'm hard defending Saru right now clearly SARU IS MY TEMPLAR INNO BUDDY PLEASE GET OFF XDDDDDDDD

3) My scum game is playing to a POINT on what Zyf was in a random game (and he has yet to say what it is i'm doing btw)

And scum defending partner is a check k lets go boys we have at least 2 mafia already.

lol wut
no i'm saying lynching someone before they do anything/claim is bad play lol

Ironic cause you seemed fine with lynching Saru without a claim

Also I already gave my reasons you just say there nothing cause you can't answer.

"Saru is obv scum he contradicted himself!"

"Zyf contradicted himself but he's obv town so it's k lol"~Transcend

?????????????

NOW LET ME GO GET THIS GUYS BS READS ON ME

ok

[Zyf]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

you're not reading carefully
scroll up to the first few posts

[Zyf]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

you're not reading carefully
scroll up to the first few posts

Oh lol. I totally missed your scum claim.

You post too much.

lol

[Zyf]

BlackStar, how the hell can you not buy that Saru is town, AND vote Zyf in virtually the same breath?

I wanted to see what he'd say and if any scum would see it as an opportunity to jump on the wagon.

UNVOTE:

Wait, so you didn't vote Zyf because he claimed Mafia Rolecop?

wait what lol wtf

[Zyf]

I apologize to anyone who has to read my

now 2-page

iso

[Zyf]

I'm gonna pay closer attention to him now though, in case that was real

I was hoping sonia was going to try and do something with it
i'm not actually a rolecop
of any sort

[Zyf]

I think texcat and Sonia are both maf. Says Mafia Scum and Goon below their names.

>doesn't vote

VOTE: gary

Not voting is scummy now I guess

Can confirm

Guys, this is typical sonia and gerry. They'll be taking this game seriously in a bit.

YOU DON'T KNOW ME YOU DON'T KNOW MY LIFE

Okay I'm not gonna get srs unless I feel like it cause rn I have music blasted and I'm already getting annoyed by some of you not to mention I'm nervous so gotta relax.

bullshit you're nervous

I said in this STATEMENT that I was nervous it's like he's already starting to try a make a case on me

It's nice knowing I can do whatever I want in this game and not get scumread because it would be an act on futility

Anyway no tr so far just a slight sr on snake boy for coming up with a weird reason to vote

That is incorrect
Past a certain point of fluff I'm going to get pissed and vote you

"Post again so I have an excuse to vote you"

Wait a second
If there was a Night 0
Why did no one die

Dumb tell

Okay Blackstar. Duly noted.

^
transcend gets very minor town points

What the fk is AI in that just really really stupid reason to try and tr your partner

WAIT STOP I THINK THAT'S L-2 OR L-1

WAIT STOP VOTING MY PARTNER This is stupid for many reasons cause he hard sr snake and then wanted people to stop voting???

More to come!

Ok thank you
1) I didn't know it was part of gerry's play back then
2) I wasn't making a case on you; i didn't feel like you were nervous at all though so I was calling you out on it.
3) Too much fluff != 1 more post don't fuckin misrep me
4) I legit didn't know lol that's a terrible reason
5) I've dealt with lolhammer on tonw -> return lynch onto town -> 5p lylo loss, mkay? I'm very careful with D1 shit like that.

[Zyf]

you assholes say I'm giving no reason to vote him when I've been doing that ALL FUCKING GAME if I have to read a 2 page ISO to get his ass lynched I fucking will

"all game" k
so uh
why aren't you voting me again?

[Zyf]

you assholes say I'm giving no reason to vote him when I've been doing that ALL FUCKING GAME if I have to read a 2 page ISO to get his ass lynched I fucking will

I'm interested in seeing how this plays out

me too

[Zyf]

You guys are making this game so hard to keep up with -_- Zyf you literally have more posts then the next two highest people combined.

I had 498 posts in 1721
i think this is gonna be a new record
also hi I have lots of time right now

expect a shit-ton less in a week because fucking school >.>

[Zyf]

lol k fuck this why even try when no one takes me srsly w/e i'm done. Yall can let scum win and i'll spam you in post game

>still doesn't even vote me
wtf

[Zyf]

I'll never keep up with this level of activity. I hope things calm down after day one.

UNVOTE: Sonia

I've seen a lot of {a} is scum. Why? Because they're scummy. Not a lot of legitimate cases. But it's early.

I don't think that Saru's contradiction is much of a case. I didn't like his initial reaction to being wagoned, when he said he liked his own wagon (393). But his later posts have been slightly better.

Transcend made some valid points about Xkyfu agreeing with every lynch going, but looking back at X's iso, it doesn't really look like he started out agreeing with everyone.

I'd consider voting Zyf just so that it would be easier to keep up.

VOTE: Tiershift
for his 143 where he talked about his scum buddies bussing him.

The problem wasn't saru's contradiction
The problem was that they were Wk-ing someone extremely scummy

[Zyf]

if snek flips scum saru is scum
and i'm like 99% sure snek is scum rn

The problem wasn't saru's contradiction
The problem was that they were Wk-ing someone extremely scummy

Again, by it's very definition, I cannot WK my own partner. You clearly stated that if I'm scum, snake must be scum. You've tried to argue that people are scum because of their contradictions(Snake) but whenever you make one(like the one quoted above), you're just "exaggerating."

You're so deep in a tunnel with your headlights off. I hope you find your way out soon.

Anyways, I'll provide a reads list after I do some re-reading. Probably tomorrow or the day after.

k
i'll wait for that list
tbh i'm waiting on like 5 ppl now

[Zyf]

I'm here and reading.

read faster
post some reads while you're at it

[Zyf]

I'm here and reading.

read faster
post some reads while you're at it

lmfao pagetop
also Vedith what are your thoughts on saru's early actions related to your slot's previous owner?

[Zyf]

Don't rush meh, I'm slow! :<

Saru called my other body scum but didn't like the speed of the wagon.
Normally wagon speed can easily indicate how it's driven. I haven't got to see if there was a quick counter wagon, but if there isn't that's normally a good sign that scum are voting with town.
I saw that Saru claimed VT. Call me biased but I see VT claims as town rather than scum when you look like a promising lynch.

So, what's the case on Saru here? Saying that my other body contradicted but didn't lie? I'm sure there's more to it than that.

The case on saru is that + the fact that your slot was scummy af but Saru was the only one who came in and WK-ed it, which either means scumbuddy protection or scum trying to get town points.

[Zyf]

The case on saru is that + the fact that your slot was scummy af but Saru was the only one who came in and WK-ed it, which either means scumbuddy protection or scum trying to get town points.

Town white knight more than scum. So what else was there?
I haven't seen yet, can you confirm is Saru was at L1 with intent when claiming?

that...was about it, I suppose. The main chunk anyway. There are other disagreeable posts interspersed like their willingness to get lynched, but those aren't really the main thing.

anyway
VOTE: Vedith

[Zyf]

The case on saru is that + the fact that your slot was scummy af but Saru was the only one who came in and WK-ed it, which either means scumbuddy protection or scum trying to get town points.

Town white knight more than scum. So what else was there?
I haven't seen yet, can you confirm is Saru was at L1 with intent when claiming?

that...was about it, I suppose. The main chunk anyway. There are other disagreeable posts interspersed like their willingness to get lynched, but those aren't really the main thing.

anyway
VOTE: Vedith

oh yeah I forgot
there was their reads on transcend/xkfyu

[Zyf]

The case on saru is that + the fact that your slot was scummy af but Saru was the only one who came in and WK-ed it, which either means scumbuddy protection or scum trying to get town points.

Town white knight more than scum. So what else was there?
I haven't seen yet, can you confirm is Saru was at L1 with intent when claiming?

anyway
I have to leave for the next 5+ hours
if no one could get lynched while I'm gone that would be great, thanks

[Zyf]

Ok Zyf, here are my reads, just like I promised.

Town

:

Gerry

- Posts 209 and 302

Saru

- Post 585

Transcend

,

Sonia

,

Zyf

- All town, Too much to explain. Please don't make me.

Null

:

BlackStar

Lowell

texcat

Scum

:

algebra

- Weak reason for such a strong town read in Post 36. Actually, now that I've gone be to see this, I'm gonna vote him for this, and his weird 55 and 57, which doesn't look at all natural to me.

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

TierShift

(not with Mimi) - For his reasoning to want to lynch Gerry in Post 143.

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: algebra

Cool
So for all your finger pointing we all end up above your scum pile
Lol
Let me keep catching up

[Zyf]

That said - I'm going to bed.

@Zyf - Care to elaborate 227 more.
Do you think that due to your amount of posting and stances in the gam, you can be seen as influential?

1) i only townread it because I was planning on bringing it up myself and obv I know I'm town
It was very minor though because I could see scum doing it too. I already explaiend this earlier though
2) Fuck no. You guys are lazy people with lives and responsibilities that don't have time to read thru all my shit.
I literally claimed mafia rolecop and Xkfyu skimmed right over it.
I gain significantly less traction by doing so, it seems.

Also @Saru waiting on that reads list man

Getting inexplicable scum vibes from vedith.
They're totally playing like town but Iunno there's something bothering me

[Zyf]

if snek flips scum saru is scum
and i'm like 99% sure snek is scum rn

The problem wasn't saru's contradiction
The problem was that they were Wk-ing someone extremely scummy

Again, by it's very definition, I cannot WK my own partner. You clearly stated that if I'm scum, snake must be scum. You've tried to argue that people are scum because of their contradictions(Snake) but whenever you make one(like the one quoted above), you're just "exaggerating."

You're so deep in a tunnel with your headlights off. I hope you find your way out soon.

Anyways, I'll provide a reads list after I do some re-reading. Probably tomorrow or the day after.

I'M FUCKING SORRY JESUS THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MORNING
saru's townier now, nvm i was tunneling way too fucking hard
They still aren't above null w/out a reads list tho

[Zyf]

Sonia is incredibly aggravating because I want to trust transcend she's town
But she's playing the worst town game I've ever seen
It's just so scummy and she repeatedly flails like a nutcase

[Zyf]

Yo vulture boi needs to get prodded soon
They've missed a lot

[Zyf]

Btw we've been glazing over texcat
Thoughts on them? I'm having trouble deciding.

[Zyf]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS TOWN IS FULL OF MORONSSSSSS

VOTE: Sonia i'm leaving

Please replace instead of trying to kys
That's not going to help out town

[Zyf]

That said - I'm going to bed.

@Zyf - Care to elaborate 227 more.
Do you think that due to your amount of posting and stances in the gam, you can be seen as influential?

"Influential" still cracks me up
Hell no I'd have to be like a fucking commuting rolecop for anyone to listen to any shit i say i a positive light

I think i get my problem with you

You're kinda...unclear
The lack of vote doesn't help

[Zyf]

Yo transcend
Where's the hardclaim?
Afaik i'm the only one that (troll) hardclaimed scum

[Zyf]

Is that suppose to get me to unvote you I think I've built a solid case on you 3 a nd I want to stick to it.

yeah a really solid nonexistant case
you're fucking gyrlander + delusions

[Zyf]

VOTE: tiershift
still think Vedith is scummy but I can't build any sort of case onto them, so that's not going to end up as a lynch.

[Zyf]

VOTE: tiershift
still think Vedith is scummy but I can't build any sort of case onto them, so that's not going to end up as a lynch.

Well, since my reasons for scum reading TierShift are apparently shit, what are your reasons for scum reading him?

Complete lack of townie activity

[Zyf]

News flash:

He didn't hard claim scum

But he's really really really really REALLY obvious scum.

I'm sorry but no, they aren't

[Zyf]

VOTE: tiershift
still think Vedith is scummy but I can't build any sort of case onto them, so that's not going to end up as a lynch.

Well, since my reasons for scum reading TierShift are apparently shit, what are your reasons for scum reading him?

Complete lack of townie activity

Yeah, and no town players have ever done THAT on this site.

Poe for now
It's the only logical read I've got right now
So if other ppl could form some cases...

[Zyf]

Zyf is slowly losing obv town status. I just want a solid case on him, and i know he'll be tough to iso but please find some time to do it.

Sonia made a fucking fantastic case for why i'm scum
VOTE: mimikyu for suggesting that a policy lynch is viable when there is plenty of scummier players to go around

[Zyf]

Zyf is slowly losing obv town status. I just want a solid case on him, and i know he'll be tough to iso but please find some time to do it.

You mean losing respect for not sheeping you when your read on saru is as articulate as sonia's sr on you?

Saru isn't actually that scummy.
I have problems with vedith but have read their iso multiple times and can't figure out why other than gut

So tiershift is the next-best thing

[Zyf]

Your "posturing" bias mainly applies to the content when no one else was around
For being inconsistent with you reads. At this point in the game omgus isn't fucking viable anymore

Also you have very little right to talk considering the fact you've done virtually nothing yourself

[Zyf]

Then i guess i have all 3 scum

Just vote Zyf with me. Lynching him is a win for town either way.

Damn i guess i moved up a ton on your lynch list for doing nothing
Scumbutt

Post a fucking reads list right now and abide to it
Otherwise you're just conveniently shifting around your reads to vote any given person

[Zyf]

Zyf is slowly losing obv town status. I just want a solid case on him, and i know he'll be tough to iso but please find some time to do it.

Sonia made a fucking fantastic case for why i'm scum

I thought you said everything that Sonia said didn't make any sense?

You seriously couldn't tell that was sarcastic?

[Zyf]

News flash:

He didn't hard claim scum

But he's really really really really REALLY obvious scum.

I'm sorry but no, they aren't

Zyf is saying in this post: Sorry bud we can't get saru lynched so we gotta move on

Or lol
"U guys r right i tunneled"
If you want i could go through your entire iso putting words i your mouth
Why don't you want to vote me again if you're so DAMN sure I'm Scum

[Zyf]

G O D I S R E A L

VOTE: Zyf

Oh hey
It finally damn happened
Congratulations you are finally consistent

[Zyf]

Lol jeez laweez

In a few games I've played, people have referred to the scum team as wolves.

^

[Zyf]

Zyr keeps saying I'm not consistent but he's prob been the most inconsistent out of everyone in the game and is just backtracking

There is a difference between changing your mind and doing one thing while saying another

[Zyf]

I've never heard people call the scum team wolves, but whatever

I have. It's just something some people do.

However, if someone does it, they do it consistently in all their games. Is that the case for Transcend?

No it is not

[Zyf]

Don't think that was a slip from Transcend.

What makes you sr zyf besides his BS iso?

Mimikyu continues readslist less

[Zyf]

I've never heard people call the scum team wolves, but whatever

I have. It's just something some people do.

However, if someone does it, they do it consistently in all their games. Is that the case for Transcend?

No it is not

Show me.

Read Newbie 1721

[Zyf]

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: Transcend

VOTE: Xkfyu
People who revert to different language isn't a scumtell
People who follow scumtells that aren't actually scumtells are scum

Therefore you are scum

[Zyf]

Ok lol
What do you want me to do for you guys
This is towards everyone except sonia

[Zyf]

Dear mimikyu
You are biased
Xkfyu had 0 rvs votes and has shifted votes more than i have

Naturally, this won't be ending your tunnel, but just know that

[Zyf]

Dear mimikyu
You are biased
Xkfyu had 0 rvs votes and has shifted votes more than i have

Naturally, this won't be ending your tunnel, but just know that

Well you'll notice Xkfyu isn't in my town-pile. But your lynch is more pressing I think.

Also Lowell is town. That post was thread MVP.

^^^
Lowell the legend comes in with the 3rd party unbiased view
very eye-opening on blackstar in particular

[Zyf]

Dear mimikyu
You are biased
Xkfyu had 0 rvs votes and has shifted votes more than i have

Naturally, this won't be ending your tunnel, but just know that

Well you'll notice Xkfyu isn't in my town-pile. But your lynch is more pressing I think.

Also Lowell is town. That post was thread MVP.

My lynch is more pressing because you don't like my post count

oh my oh my, how AI

[Zyf]

Agree 100% that 'let's kill all lurkers' is bad. My goal in my statement was to place pressure on the lurkers.

There are no hard lines, but tends to be relatively infrequent posting coupled with empty posts.

Well at least we can agree that empty posts count to lurking.
I haven't checked your ISO yet, who are your reads?

I don't love doing whole formal reads lists at this point necessarily, but I will say I feel like Saru, Blackstar, and Transcend are all town. Xkfyu is probably scum. On the fence on Sonia. Zyf could easily be scum. To be honest don't have a good read one way or the other at this point. Seems like one of algebra/Tiershift are scum. Obviously eagerSnake had a bad intro, but it feels like it may have just been overeager town, especially since I've liked your play since then for the most part.

oh this list
This is a terrible list wow

let me just put it like this so that people can read it better:

Town: Saru, Blackstar, Transcend
Nulltown-Snake/Vedith
Null/nullscum: Sonia
Nulllscum: Zyf, algebra, tiershift
Scum: Xkfyu

Note this is all done without voting an incredible 50% of players below their town level.
NOICE M8

I would be voting you except xkfyu is a thing

[Zyf]

Anyone who uses the word "noice" must be scum.

lol

[Zyf]

Agree 100% that 'let's kill all lurkers' is bad. My goal in my statement was to place pressure on the lurkers.

There are no hard lines, but tends to be relatively infrequent posting coupled with empty posts.

Well at least we can agree that empty posts count to lurking.
I haven't checked your ISO yet, who are your reads?

I don't love doing whole formal reads lists at this point necessarily, but I will say I feel like Saru, Blackstar, and Transcend are all town. Xkfyu is probably scum. On the fence on Sonia. Zyf could easily be scum. To be honest don't have a good read one way or the other at this point. Seems like one of algebra/Tiershift are scum. Obviously eagerSnake had a bad intro, but it feels like it may have just been overeager town, especially since I've liked your play since then for the most part.

oh this list
This is a terrible list wow

You'd think if it was so bad you wouldn't need to ATR.

atr?

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

[Zyf]

atr?

Appeal to ridicule.

ah you want me to explain /why/ it's bad
Sure
it's opportunistic as fuck
first of all, you have sonia, who's pretty highly townread, "on the fence" so that if things go your way (someone pushes them) you can vote them, while keeping them high enough not to get any weird looks
next, you have Xkfyu as scum, which you never go on to vote for because there's no wagon there
third, you put two lurkers in your scum pile but don't do anything with it, simply saying you think "one" of them is scum–in other words, you can vote whichever wagon gets more force later on
also you have half of your list below town as possible votables
you also conveniently forget people; i don't appreciate that, because those are freebies for later on.
Lastly, you say I could "easily be scum" followed by a sentence suggesting I'm null to you
so that you can get away with it no matter what happens

you also say you don't have a "solid read" on me but apparently voting null people when there's 4 scum in your list is normal

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

You act like being in the thread for a long time warrants townie points...

no
I'm saying that if you're there to react to everything scummy immediately as it happens, you're more likely to vote on it than after once things die down, yeah?

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

If you're expecting a clear articulation of why

anyone

is scum on Day 1, then I suggest you lower your expectations. I've explained why I think you're scum though.

yes you have
"too many votes"
that's about it.

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

If you're expecting a clear articulation of why

anyone

is scum on Day 1, then I suggest you lower your expectations. I've explained why I think you're scum though.

yes you have
"too many votes"
that's about it.

oh wait
I forgot the fucking greatest reason to try and lynch someone in the whole wide world: because they post too much for your liking
Voted the best strategy for winning a game of mafia since sixteen-ninety-never

[Zyf]

Yo can we get a votecount? A lot of votes have been shifted around.

Pedit-Lmao perfect timing mimikyu

[Zyf]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

I don't even give a shit if it's me
this is a terrible gamestate for town because nothing's getting done
btw there's also 2 wagons of 2 which doesn't help either

[Zyf]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

1) You're making a lot of non-content noise. Zero town-incentive to do this. Large scum-incentive to do this.
2) You're switching your vote around a ton. Interesting you criticize me for supposedly having such a large lynch pool when you voting for everyone makes an even more effective large one. "Well I suspected them before when I voted for them".
3) You ping me.

1) what is this noise you speak of
2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part but after saru there's been a lot of little things to pick at, but no large leads
the problem is that a lot of the scummier-looking people are lurking, so unless we get them to L-2/L-1 and get them prodded, nothing's gonna get done
3) great reason that I can totally defend against
it's not even a post/collection of posts that pings you, apparently it's my existence?

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

I don't even give a shit if it's me
this is a terrible gamestate for town because nothing's getting done
btw there's also 2 wagons of 2 which doesn't help either

Is it terrible? We have literally over 10 days left.

you yourself acknowledge that noise is bad
right now votes are flying everywhere with little to no direction
we may have 10 days, but I'm not worried about time
I'm worried about the content we're going to have to sift through that's not even useful

[Zyf]

2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part

BS

>until after saru
don't cut out parts just to suit your opinions

[Zyf]

do i need to make a case on xk

[Zyf]

do i need to make a case on xk

I incist

*insist

fine

[Zyf]

If I tr mimi and say it's not bias would you believe me?

Also for future ref I don't think anyone should ask if they need to make a case or why they sr ___ they should just do it...imo

1) yes, i would believe you but strongly disagree.

2) well y'see
I'm a lazy motherfucker some days
and today is one of those days

you're right though
I'm just tired of being the only one making any cases (other than yours on me) and getting nowhere, honestly

[Zyf]

you yourself acknowledge that noise is bad
right now votes are flying everywhere with little to no direction
we may have 10 days, but I'm not worried about time
I'm worried about the content we're going to have to sift through that's not even useful

No one said all we could produce for the next 10 days are noise. And

you

are worried about people sifting through content? Are you kidding?

no, I'm not kidding
In order for me to be creating "noise" someone needs to be responding to me
it's not a 1-person thing

[Zyf]

Spoiler: Case

Then die.

VOTE: Xkfuckyou

Yeah, I doubt it.

Trolling people is fun, too much fun.

VOTE: Saru

I like it.

VOTE: Saru

hatehatehatehatehate -> I'll sheep you.
It doesn't matter if it's trolling, you don't just change your mind that fast

I think the foses on sonia/gerry are slightly justified, but i feel their actions are nai.

Get out of here with that. You can't believe both.

Before trolling

Although i am serious when i feel that the foses are quantifiable on them.

Fair enough.

After trolling

Apparently voting good alters basic LOGIC perception; this isn't believing a read, this is saying a statement makes no sense and then later saying it's logical

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

She really isn't scum.

convince me

She soft claimed way earlier.

I never got the answer to where the fuck the soft claim was
I still don't see it

1) Why would you do it? So that if/when he flipped town people would be like "oh wow saru was right let's trust them"

Wait, so apparently I'm scum with Snake(which you're 100% sure about) but I'm also scum who is WK-ing a town Snake. What? Guess you contradicted yourself and now you're confirmed scum for that.

Anyways, I'm just going to claim right now because fuck it. Alas, I am but a VT. I hate being VT anyways so whatevs.

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

Mimi is probably town. Gerry is also probably town. inb4 "oh those are Saru's scum partners."

If Zyf is town, then he's just a bad player who thinks questioning speed wagons is scummy. Sad times. He'll learn.

Good luck and cy@ in the dead thread!

I like it.

UNVOTE: Saru

VOTE: Lowell

Unvotes saru, votes to try and incite me
Even though apparently they like the post, apparently they don't agree with the content
Which accuses them of scummy-ness

sounds like appeasement

A wagon on town is a bad wagon.

Yeah, that's what I figured you meant.

What if a townies lynch directly resulted in catching one scum? Would you still consider that to be a "bad wagon?"

Wrong mindset for town.

What do you like about it? You haven't explained your town read

It's funny that it took this long for someone to ask this.

It's this:

After I flip, take a good hard look at both Transcend and Xkfyu because the fight between them looks fake af. Trolling is a convenient excuse that I could use for my posts too, but I'm not scum so. Plus, Transcend's discredit of me just looks so bad lmfao. If I'd have to give a third scum, I'd probably say one of the lurkers.

If Saru is scum, he knows that any "scum reads" he claims will obviously be ignored. So, this is absolutely pointless for scum to post, and it's more effort than scum would make.

TERRIBLE reason for townreading someone. If scum is about to get lynched, they will ABSOLUTELY make the effort because they're on the brink of death and have to try harder to live.

I agree with the read but this reason is horrific.

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

Yeah, I could see that.

I'm calling it now it's Transcend Zyr and Ved

Is there a type of kudo I c n get for all 3 scum being obv cause this is borderline easy

Yeah, I could see that.

lol k you try that shit

I already am. I'm voting Vedith aren't I?

Note that they're acting like they believe it

Okay but you said i was a green read then sonia over here pulls 3 foses out of her ass (she's hard town btw just playing off of emotion) and you're like "yep sure sounds good haha yep"

That's not what I said. I said "I could see that." That doesn't necessarily mean that I believed it.

If I did believe it, I would be voting for you instead of Vedith.

Apparently not.
But they're saying two different things here. First they say they do believe it because vedith is part of the pile, but then later on apparently vedith doesn't count? Sounds like someone trying to dig themselves out of a pit.

Where did saru go, btw?

Doesn't matter. He's town.

Alignment doesn't matter
input is important
and saru was important because as the receiver of the wagon you oftentimes have more insight on who you think is scummy

By the way, if this is just one huge scum theater production and you (Sonia, Transcend, and Zyf) are ALL scum, I am gonna be soooooo mad at you guys.

throwing shade

UNVOTE: Vedith

VOTE: TierShift.

ok fine

Ok Zyf, here are my reads, just like I promised.

Town

:

Gerry

- Posts 209 and 302

Saru

- Post 585

Transcend

,

Sonia

,

Zyf

- All town, Too much to explain. Please don't make me.

Null

:

BlackStar

Lowell

texcat

Scum

:

algebra

- Weak reason for such a strong town read in Post 36. Actually, now that I've gone be to see this, I'm gonna vote him for this, and his weird 55 and 57, which doesn't look at all natural to me.

Mimi

(not with TierShift) - Post 615. I checked the Activity Overview page at the time of this post, and TierShift and MariaR were both listed right next to each other at the bottom of the list (sorted by post count). See my 622.

TierShift

(not with Mimi) - For his reasoning to want to lynch Gerry in Post 143.

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: algebra

People have already mentioned problems with this list
>switches to other one

Oh, and

UNVOTE: algebra

VOTE: TierShift

>Neither has posted
>switches to the other one anyway

UNVOTE: TierShift

VOTE: Transcend

Calls out scumslip that isn't a scumslip
that's a scumtell for me

Ok Mimi is town.

UNVOTE: Transcend

VOTE: Zyf

>mimi being town has nothing to do with whether or not transcend is scum
>I drop from town to scum for voting them; they start voting me because I'm starting to get votes on me

Anyone who uses the word "noice" must be scum.

Random joke, but still throwing shade while they're at it

[Zyf]

I think I made a case on you and Transcend mostly him as a team but not him himself I should prob do that. Even if I didn't think it was needed.

Logical sonia has returned
we tried explaining this to you for a while; ya didn't get it

[Zyf]

More votes on Tiershift, less on others.

that doesn't do anything if they aren't here dude.

[Zyf]

Gerry are you even reading?

You want to lynch someone who has made 6 posts out of 1000...

1000

of which I have 27%
oops

[Zyf]

i didnt know mafia was required to talk a lot. thanks for letting me know!!

to get anything done mafia has to be /around/ though
if the buzzard pops in before ex-cay-effects-u I'll vote them but otherwise lol no

[Zyf]

nice parroting

[Zyf]

UNVOTE: gonna have to catch up :/ 12 pages ugh

does this count as a naked prodge
or do we have to wait another 23 hours

[Zyf]

I'm worried about the content we're going to have to sift through that's not even useful

Oh, you're here?
Why not produce a reads list

[Zyf]

it seems the buzzard is town
it's hardly a conformist catch-up

by the way in order for me to be scum with mimi and xkfyu we'd all have to be HARD BUSSING each other
because I think they're both scum and they both think I'm scum lol

[Zyf]

Can we vote in me and Zy fucker today?????????????????????

no because there are much better lynch options.

I'm getting more and more sure sonia is scum trying to save saru's ass

This post by zyf is shit and I am going to reread if he's actually a huge newb who believes everyone who opposes his wagon is scum or scum trying to powerlynch through the people opposing him

well, hold on a minute.
In this situation, I'm very confident in saru being scum, and sonia is...
A) Being irrational
B) Insisting that I'm scum with a grand total of 0 reasons to form any sort of case
C) Still trying to push an eagersnake lynch
D) Pushing for a lynch outside saru that includes her and/or me

it's not just opposing a lynch–it's being a distraction that in that situation seems like sonia desperately trying to get attention of saru
it's probably not that looking back now but you gotta have things in context

[Zyf]

Just kidding there's probably a lurkscum somewhere within the pool of tex algebra tier leaning tex.

alright I'm done

Just kidding there's probably a lurkscum somewhere within the pool of tex algebra tier leaning tex.

Good post I'm also leaning tex for lurkscum

Blackstar hopped off his wagon because there is no support and continues doing literally fucking NOTHING

Lowell I like that catchup thing but I do not see xf as scum a lot
He dropped both town and scumtells and I feel his lack of direction is somewhat town

I will support tex for doing jack shit even though they're apparently here
i will support blackstar for the reason above, thank you guys for catching that
and I'll support Xkfyu

If someone drops town and scumtells, it's not a matter of numbers
it's a matter of which one is a bigger deal

xk has moments where they're town, but there are also times where they seem very scummy
for example, giving up on saru and then trying to return the push to eagersnake. I /really/ dislike that.
I don't think lack of direction is the correct word; I think it's more of them trying to push whatever they can

[Zyf]

okay zyf I can see that now vote with me

but xk...
>.>

[Zyf]

blackstar seems to be actively scumhunting just isn't posting as much as others. Pref not to vote it

????
What scumhunting?

[Zyf]

Blackstar explains everything /after/

[Zyf]

VOTE: texcat

That's really not helpful rn

[Zyf]

Eh this one's gonna get farther toDay
VOTE: blackstar

[Zyf]

today's lynch is xf or blackstar preferably the latter

NOT texcat

Doubt blackstar is happening.

Oh, it's happening
Read their damn iso before you say anything

[Zyf]

Eh this one's gonna get farther toDay
VOTE: blackstar

What? You have now voted for literally over half of the player pool FYI.

Welcome to mafia, where people can convince you others are scum
VOTE: Xkfyu
VOTE: Lowell
VOTE: Vedith
VOTE: Sonia
VOTE: Transcend
VOTE: tiershift
VOTE: algebra
VOTE: gerryoat
VOTE: mimikyu
VOTE: texcat
VOTE: Zyf
VOTE: Saru
VOTE: Blackstar

Whoops I voted for everyone
I must be fucking CONFSCUM now right

That's a REALLY AI tell man

[Zyf]

Eh this one's gonna get farther toDay
VOTE: blackstar

What? You have now voted for literally over half of the player pool FYI.

Stop tunneling idiotically and start voting someone who's more scummy than someone who's "voted a lot"

[Zyf]

Lol k
Keep trying idiots

[Zyf]

Notice Zyf has not voted his partner Transcend and unvoted snake quite fast

I still think Zyf is our best lynch by far

Ever considered the fact that I think they're town
Lol idiot

[Zyf]

I unvoted a lot of people like that
I also explained that i think there's something up with vedith but i don't know what it is so I'm not going to bother trying to wagon them

[Zyf]

Eh this one's gonna get farther toDay
VOTE: blackstar

What? You have now voted for literally over half of the player pool FYI.

Stop tunneling idiotically and start voting someone who's more scummy than someone who's "voted a lot"

I'm also voting you because you tried calling me out for having a handful of people as possible scum when you have, as I've said, literally voted for over half the town. You seem to have forgotten your scum-play when you tried to discredit my list.

Also want to echo Sonia. You need to learn how to talk to people. Calling people idiots isn't a good way to make friends.

1) calling someone's decision stupid != calling them stupid as a whole
2) why the fuck would I want to be "friends" with 2 people who think I'm scum when I'm not
And are going about it in a very dumb, tunnely way
3) there's a difference between sr-ing lots of people at once and changing your mind as to who's scum and who's town

[Zyf]

Yay
VOTE: Xkfyu

[Zyf]

PL?

Alright this is fucking stupid I can't do this anymore

I'm a 1-Shot BP, ok? That's why I was fucking voting all over the map because then if it looks like I suspect people scum are more likely to try and shoot me at night
this is my first time being a BP so someone please fucking teach me jfc

[Zyf]

PL?

Alright this is fucking stupid I can't do this anymore

I'm a

1-Shot BP

, ok? That's why I was fucking voting all over the map because then if it looks like I suspect people scum are more likely to try and shoot me at night
this is my first time being a BP so someone please fucking teach me jfc

ebwop

[Zyf]

Yo blackstar just to hammer in your town can you do me a favor
make a reads list.
and follow it.

[Zyf]

My reads are all pretty soft. My town reads are Sonia and Lowell. I still have Tier in my possible scum pile. Gerry is also there. (I need to revisit these two.) I've gone back and forth on Saru a few times, and back and forth on Zyf. Although Zyf has spent more time on the townie side of back and forth than Saru.

I really liked Lowell's post and as a result went back to iso Blackstar and Xkfyu. Transcend had earlier made a case on Xkfyu 630 and 642 that he was agreeing with every case going. Lowell pointed out that Xk's reads list was awful. I also didn't like this post from Xk trying to force himself into a town group.

I now know Transcend is either A) Mafia with Zyr or B) Awful at reading this game and should never play again already stated why Zyr is scum XDDDD

Honestly, all 4 of us are probably town and making a bunch of noise, making it easy for scum to stay under the radar.

VOTE: Xkfyu

I'm really not liking Blackstar's posts re the alleged werewolf scum slip. Lowell pointed out the slip, but obviously Blackstar did not understand it. The slip was that Transcend knew the number of scum in the game in 157, realized that he shouldn't really know that, and backed off the number in 283. Looks to me like even though Blackstar didn't understand the slip, he tried to take advantage of it by pointing the finger at Transcend.

Gerry, scum? Very interested in seeing that one.

Btw just making sure
have people seen my case on Xk?

[Zyf]

Well here's the problem. You're obviously never going to be NK'd now if you're town, so we can never actually confirm your role. For all intents and purposes, you are a VT at this point if you're telling the truth.

I am leaving my vote as is.

What the actual fuck no
VOTE: Mimikyu

for all intents and purposes I'm conftown in a LYLO situation that's not going to die before then and if I am, I'll know directly beforehand.

Also, I would have no reason to lie if I was scum (which I'm not) because I'm not claiming with 6 people on my wagon–there's one person tunneling the fuck out of me and there's one that can only say I'm scummy for hypocrisy?

[Zyf]

mimi stop trying to talk sense into zyf it won't work

What do you mean talk sense into me?
Why am /I/ the one that needs to turn more logical again?

[Zyf]

PL?

Alright this is fucking stupid I can't do this anymore

I'm a 1-Shot BP, ok? That's why I was fucking voting all over the map because then if it looks like I suspect people scum are more likely to try and shoot me at night
this is my first time being a BP so someone please fucking teach me jfc

if that's true, why would you admit that now? You weren't even close to L-1 and now scum won't ever want to night kill you. It's a waste

1) it's not a fucking joke
2) because by the time I'm L-1 it'll probably be late-day
3) It WOULDN'T be a waste if sonia and mimi (who i think are both town) would stop tunneling me and start voting actual scum
but no, I'm lying scum trying to save my ass from a grand total of 2 people

VOTE: Xkfyu

[Zyf]

Well here's the problem. You're obviously never going to be NK'd now if you're town, so we can never actually confirm your role. For all intents and purposes, you are a VT at this point if you're telling the truth.

I am leaving my vote as is.

btw you'll most likely find out the day before lylo so long as you people trust me
because bringing conftown into lylo is always a bad place for scum.

[Zyf]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[Zyf]

that first one was more of an irritation vote

[Zyf]

how many people want me to post less

[Zyf]

Well here's the problem. You're obviously never going to be NK'd now if you're town, so we can never actually confirm your role. For all intents and purposes, you are a VT at this point if you're telling the truth.

I am leaving my vote as is.

What the actual fuck no
VOTE: Mimikyu

for all intents and purposes I'm conftown in a LYLO situation that's not going to die before then and if I am, I'll know directly beforehand.

Also, I would have no reason to lie if I was scum (which I'm not) because I'm not claiming with 6 people on my wagon–there's one person tunneling the fuck out of me and there's one that can only say I'm scummy for hypocrisy?

How are you conftown in a LYLO situation? Only if you're telling the truth, which we will never know.

Because you should trust someone if they have no reason to lie?

[Zyf]

nah fuck this
you're not doing idiotic things anymore
you're just being stupid
xk is scum, please kill them

Requesting replacement.

[Zyf]

ok, you don't have to read 500 posts I'm fucking out

[Zyf]

why should I
I'm dealing with an idiot who thinks I'm scum
inb4 replacing out means I'm just scared scum
lol I can read your mind

[Zyf]

Come on Zyf...

no
fuck you
see you in endgame
at least I'm not self-voting like sonia

the worst part of it is I still believe you two are town >.>

[Zyf]

loooooooool

[Zyf]

I thought you wanted to policy lynch me for posting too much
so I got you guys the next best thing

--END--

[Zyf]

dwlee, mad respect for playing as you did even with my sh!tty replace out
sad part is my gut sr's were right and my logical ones were wrong...

[Zyf]

gg everyone!

your scum is fking annoying to play against
just letting u know

[Zyf]

And so are you just letting you know. It's just a game though

it feels like you're screaming 90% of the time

[Zyf]

And so are you just letting you know. It's just a game though

it feels like you're screaming 90% of the time

That's not my normal scum play at all to be honest it was 100% planned to get at least 1 of Transcend/Gerry to tr me and it worked and I kinda had to keep up the act it wasn't fun towards the end but meh trust me this is a one time thing

k

[Zyf]

WOW Sonia fuck you
that was not fun at all