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In post 199, DiamondSentinel wrote:Oh? He's scum for sure? I didn't know that.

He became confirmed scum the minute he said "I got no result thus MoI must have commuted me. Lynch Zulfy".

I think Transcend just wants a mislynch so he can say "I vigged every single scum member!"

Well, I still stand by "Fire didn't play exceptionally good. Town just played exceptionally bad."

I mean, he's trying. Not easy for him at this point!

I don't think we will

but if scum actually pull this out by Transcend shooting Grib

ohhhh man it'll be good

We can dream of such a feat!

yeah like Bro should not have been lynched there - his play was admittedly worse than grib or firebringer's but counterclaiming me would still be a REALLY dumb thing for scum to do there, I looked fine at the time and would have pretty much gone on coasting for a while and looking fairly town if he hadn't done that.

And given that Grib's claim could literally not exist and have looked the same to everyone else, we actually have a legit chance now that people have mentioned Grib being suspicious and Transcend has the time to overthink some shit

Still not likely he ultimately goes for firebringer being town over grib but it's possible now at least

Hasn't submitted his kill yet so exciting times ahead.

So, can scum actually submit kill+other action?

Because if not, I was conf-town and still lynched!

Meaning I WAS RIGHT THAT CONFIRMED TOWN WOULD GET LYNCHED IN THIS GAME.

I was just wrong about who that conf-town would be.

I believe you are correct. I'll check tho.

Your lynch was dumb, but fortuitous to us scum!

I mean.

It was a pretty blegh technical mistake.

I should have been pushing that point far more aggressively much sooner, but tbh I've become a super lazy mafia player. Not taking it so seriously is helpful towards me being able to play at all.

we could submit an action and kill in the same night, we had aris track and kill on one of the nights the kill failed.

In post 209, BROseidon wrote:Meaning I WAS RIGHT THAT CONFIRMED TOWN WOULD GET LYNCHED IN THIS GAME.

I was just wrong about who that conf-town would be.

You weren't confirmed Town.

You got lynched for having a single solitary vote all game on scum while pushing on multiple Town for lynch. In an endgame situation your lynch wasn't a bad choice at all.

Transcend will shoot Firebringer. And if he's somehow blocked whichever of the two Town players are left alive will lynch Firebringer.

Sorry scum that there was a glimmer of hope.

so what you're saying is vca led to a bad lynch

wow how surprising

let's blame the player and not the strategy

In post 214, Cephrir wrote:so what you're saying is vca led to a bad lynch

wow how surprising

let's blame the player and not the strategy

Nope. Please continue to pedal that looking at his ISO and seeing a complete lack of push on any scum while repeatedly pushing for Town lynches is a failure of VCA when assessing whether he should be lynched.

and the town's inability to distinguish between wrong town and scum is somehow not the town's fault

cool

it was a mechanical mistake too, really, because the same logic that clears zulfy should also clear bro -- zulfy could also be a scum roleblocker but that is apparently fine

no, i'm wrong about that, but still, it was pretty silly to decide bro must be a scum roleblocker over the ockham's razor option

In post 216, Cephrir wrote:and the town's inability to distinguish between wrong town and scum is somehow not the town's fault

cool

Naw it's okay MoI has demonstrated this game that he's incapable of taking ownership of his mistakes.

Like yeah I had a bad game.

But it's not my fault that transcend/zulfy couldn't get the right read

In post 219, BROseidon wrote:Naw it's okay MoI has demonstrated this game that he's incapable of taking ownership of his mistakes.

Nah. I'm more than willing to admit that I got the several of my reads wrong (Camtsuki, hiplop). That happens in a Large game.

Just like I'm content with having correct scum reads on all four scum. Which seems to be forgotten in this little conversation of "Let's defend people we like regardless of how poorly they performed".

But continue to be bitter about being lynched when looking at your ISO says "Scum".

My ISO didn't say scum though. Definitionally, it couldn't have, because I was town.

And it's easy to scumread the team when you scumread more than 4 people in a game with 4 scum.

I mean, I'm not exactly bitter? It's more that it was a dumb move from a mechanical perspective, and mechanical mistakes are something you should really never make.

In post 221, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Which seems to be forgotten in this little conversation of "Let's defend people we like regardless of how poorly they performed".

in my capacity as someone emotionally distant from the whole situation, i will agree that bro and ceph's mislynches were the result of everyone else working from a crappy scumhunting model (and not because of bro or ceph)