Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

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Hopefully Thor shows up, reads my 1739 and hammers this.

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I don't think I've ever seen a person sit @ L-1 for such a long time w/o a hammer or a single unvote.

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I wonder whatever Shadow will do. I await his post with bated breath.

He's waiting to see what thor does. He doesn't want to make a shady vote for giga if thor's just gonna show up and hammer his scumbuddy anyway.

But if he waits and thor votes for giga then it'll be worth it.

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I said I did?

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oh I think I see what ur saying. Lemme fix that sentence. Gimme a sec.

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He's waiting to see what thor does. He(Shadow) doesn't want to make a shady vote for giga if thor's just gonna show up and hammer his(Shadows) scumbuddy anyway.

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I have zero interest in lynching a claimed doc.

So u gonna vote giga then?

Cause right now ur basically not voting.

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Scum aren't busing scum!titus

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I have zero interest in lynching a claimed doc.

So u gonna vote giga then?

Cause right now ur basically not voting.

No I'd rather lynch karnos

Ok but Karnos doesn't look like he's gonna get lynched today. It's giga vs titus.

If thor shows up and votes giga, would you let the day end without a lynch?

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Why would I let that happen?

Because when I asked you who were gonna vote between titus and giga you responded w/ "I'd rather lynch karnos".

So to be more direct:

If the day is about to end and the votes on titus and giga are tied, who do you plan on hammering?

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@Kraska are you opposed to a Karnos lynch?

Dude, can u dodge me any more?

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someone hammer titus already.

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I've interacted w/ u. I called u out for ur terrible reasoning about how you don't want to reveal ur target when u think u healed scums kill and ur reasoning was:

WHat about role madness or maybe scum did a troll kill.

So don't hold it against me if our interactions didn't change my mind.

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How about a readslist Titus?

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Why should I put more effort into a game just to be ridiculed?

Cause u want to win?

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Why should I put more effort into a game just to be ridiculed?

Cause u want to win?

I do, but either way, you're just going to say lol Titus sucked after my flip because you really don't understand the basics on how to play. Like I am sure you're town but I have zero faith in you listening to anything I say or it having an impact. I would rather work, sleep, play other games, or do anything else that do a read wall no one will engage with and people will say haha lynch Titus.

While I'll say that it's highly unlikely anything u say will convince me that ur town @ this point. If you do flip town, I'll certainly reread ur ISO and pay attention to ur reads.

And I'll also engage w/ you about your reads if u post em.

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Is future!shadow_step played by a different actor? Why wouldn't you be able to predict who you will hammer? Are you that indecisive?

Why are you answering for JJ before he even replies?

Cause that was obviously the correct reply.

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Shadow, if the day was ending in an hour and you could only choose between titus and giga, who would u choose?

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VOTE: Karnos

life is getting a bit out of control for me. if titus can't get lynched, then this is the alternative that will likely flip scum. if the vig, if there is one, does not shoot me tomorrow (they didn't shoot me when i requested to be shot yesterday so i doubt there is one), i'll respond to whatever points/discussion i need to tomorrow (in-game). don't dismiss what titus says if she is town, I agree with her speculation in that there are likely more prs, probably not a vig but I shouldn't be counted as a pr, and 4 prs is not unreasonable.

i'll formally announce a v/la once i have a better idea of how much time i'll have in the future, sorry.

Caught scum getting desperate.

How does this make sense? If he's scum then right now his best chance is getting blitz lynched who is already @ L-1 (assuming they aren't BOTH scum). Instead he derails the wagon and hopes that you get lynched instead?

Like he can't know how much support would be there for ur lynch but he knows that about half the town wants to lynch blitz. I'd think him switching off blitz @ this point would be the WORST decision for scum right now.

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His best play to survive is to get saps like you to townread him and play for a no-lynch at the moment.

Really? A no-lynch. Do those ever happen? I think he knows that people will almost always lynch someone rather than let a no-lynch go through.

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Giga what are you doinggggģ
Get back on Titus she's scum

Word.

@giga. If thor shows up and votes U over blitz then I'll happily wagon karnos w/ u.

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Karnos is town. Go ahead and try to wagon another townie to save Giga.

Maybe u should hammer urself then?

This way u ensure giga goes down tomorrow

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How does this make sense?

If he's scum

then right now his best chance is getting blitz lynched who is already @ L-1 (assuming they aren't BOTH scum). Instead he derails the wagon and hopes that you get lynched instead?

Like he can't know how much support would be there for ur lynch but he knows that about half the town wants to lynch blitz. I'd think him switching off blitz @ this point would be the WORST decision

for scum right now

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Your post doesn't make sense. Whether he is town or scum, the above is true. It's not like town!giga would benefit from being lynched today, so the exact same argument applies. You are acting like it's a stupid switch as scum, so that proves he is town. But actually it's also a stupid move as town to switch wagons right here, the change is NAI.

It just indicates desperation.

OK. I concede the fact that the switch is not a very good play from town either.

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I can't trust your read on blitz when you are reading me so wrong.

Ur my #3 lynch for today. shadow>blitz>you

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karnos pls hammer. If Titus flips scum I won't even consider voting you until shadow and gerry are dead.

thor, stop lurking and hammer if Karnos doesn't.

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And don't forget: I wont tell you who I targeted because it gives scum information even though I believe that I blocked scums kill.

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If blitz flips town, we lynch giga tomorrow.

4 players /agree and I'll hammer.

I think it's stupid to kill town like this but I'll go with this compromise.

Agree w/ 1 caveat: If whatever Shadow tells us about his target gets countered by someone, we lynch Shadow.

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I'm thinking of a Giga/Elyse team rn

This is what I believe if my current reads are wrong. But I don't think they are.

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Michel, don't you see the way that Shadow is tiptoeing around voting either Giga or Titus?

Like seriously. Look @ how long it took him to even admit that he'd vote giga over titus. He was asked like 5 times and he kept dodging.

And just the fact that he chose giga over titus even though he not only posted intent to hammer titus, but he also told us that maria town = giga town.

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but Titus scum=Shadow scum REMEMBER THAT!

Oh I'm sure you'll find a reason to find me scummy no matter what Titus flips.

Yeah thanks for reminding me. I wanted to respond to Nero there:

Shadow = scum regardless of Titus' flip

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Like I'm pretty sure that's its a Titus/Gerry/Shadow team and if so I think town deserves a best town performance but I don't really want to share with the 4th scum member Michel.

I think it's karnos instead of Gerry. Shadows push on Gerry doesn't feel very bus-y to me.

Also I think ur being to hard on Michel.

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This was also a little odd since she made a post earlier about how Thor had done nothing towny

Wait since when do you read thor as scum

So I was kinda concerned if she was scum and scumread one of her buddies (Titus/Blitz) and town read one (Shadow)

but a Titus/Shadow/Gerry team just makes so much sense no matter how shitty her Michel and Thors play as been. Though I will admit that Gerry is the weakest of my 3 main scumreads but he still needs rope.

Nah that question from kraska makes complete sense if he read my post as me saying I scumread thor.

I've been townreading thor all game so he'd be correct in calling me out there.

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What I do know is that scum are not bussing Giga due to how the wagons have danced around him.

the same can be said for you.

Like Gerry is literally avoiding posting and Shadow is trying to avoid having to vote you or Giga since if he votes Giga and she flips town it sinks you and he doesn't really want to bus you.

Why exactly the fuck wouldn't I be bussing Titus ?

Cause I already explained why U wont get any townpoints for it:

What do you mean "coerced"? If you think Kraska suggesting Shadow to do that is scummy, why are you supporting the wagon...?

Maybe coerced isn't the right word.

I don't @ all think that Kraska telling shadow to vote blitz is scummy. My point is that Shadow doesn't want to vote for blitz (his scumbuddy) but doesn't really have much of a choice @ this point.

If blitz flips scum then shadow gets zero towncred for it.

Why would you bus when u wouldn't get any cred?

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that claim was super townie, scum!Shadow doesn't target Elyse at all and should be paranoid about lying about his target...

I agree that scumShadow doesn't target Elyse.

I disagree that he'd be paranoid about lying about his target ESPECIALLY w/ a tracker dead.

But do you know what he WOULD be paranoid about. Making a claim that could be countered. By saying that Elyse is non-PR, he guarantees a correct result. Anything else he'd have to guess.

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If blitz flips town, we lynch giga tomorrow.

4 players /agree and I'll hammer.

Spoiler:

I will agree to this

Agree w/ 1 caveat: If whatever Shadow tells us about his target gets countered by someone, we lynch Shadow.

kankos, i /agree with 0 caveats.

agree

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thank odin

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Meh, I'm hardly as convinced as you.
Why do you think it's so bog obvious Titus is scum?
The exceedingly empty play only started when Nero started pressuring her on reads, not before.

- Shadow as her scumbuddy makes perfect sense (ie: posting intent but refusing to actually vote or pressure the slot)

- Titus refusing to give up who she targeted yet saying she believes she healed scums shot

- PoE

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I also think we probably should have mass claimed today, but there really isn't enough time with current activity levels - if I die tonight I advocate that for tomorrow, natch

If this happens, make sure Shadow gives his target and result first.

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That was hammer wasn't it?

I hope I was reading titus wrong. Blah. I'm going to be extremely upset if giga is scum and you fools are letting obvious scum live because... why?

WIFOM post.

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yeah that does look shady as F.

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was the 1st or the 2nd post sarcasm?