Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[kraska77]

I'm sure there's a scum doc
Titus wasn't pulling stuff out of thin air, that was her last resort to look relevant

[kraska77]

I don't see her guessing there's a vig unless there's a scum doc

[kraska77]

You know
What makes me iffy
Is
Why did he check me

[kraska77]

Giga don't you find it weird that shadow checked me?

[kraska77]

I think it's time to follow the wisdom of Shannon
Facts point to shadow being scum, I prolly need to stop ignoring the obvious
VOTE: shadow
I don't make sense as a cop check

[kraska77]

Why would you waste a check on me

[kraska77]

Sigh
Idk
VOTE: karnos

[kraska77]

Any comments on what Nero wrote, shadow?

[kraska77]

scum doc decided to protect me to fk town doc

That's a stretch

[kraska77]

Elyse can only be scum if shadow is scum
If shadows town then scum definitely have two PRs and whoever returns vanilla is confirmed town

[kraska77]

Yeah this applies to me too but I know what my role pm says ^_^

[kraska77]

I think his claim is legit just not town after neros claim

[kraska77]

Haven't caught up but shadow obviously hasn't been jailed
Didn't he get a result on night 1
Nero either got blocked/jailed or shadow was docced
I think In the case Nero the jailed, his shot is still there

[kraska77]

Nero got jailed*
By if shadow was protected then he's out of shots
Pedit: but if ure jailed its like u never actioned at all

[kraska77]

But* if shadow
sorey I'm !^^@&#^

[kraska77]

X_X

[kraska77]

In my heart of hearts I still feel shadow is town
But neros claim makes me waffle

[kraska77]

Wow yet another shitlord post from Michel(I mean what did I expect?)
You've been criticising my blitz and early elyse pushes the entire game up until blitz's flip, and now when it suits you...you call me uninvolved?

[kraska77]

VOTE: shadow
Probably a town flip

[kraska77]

Getting real tired of this crap
Have you been reading stuff or no?
Shadow town flip means me and elyse confirmed
Giga is like so town it hurts

[kraska77]

Because everyone else is town
Michel probably town because of early interactions with blitz

[kraska77]

Sure

[kraska77]

Regardless of the flip, Karnos is the slot I'm scared of the most. I honestly cannot tell if he's lynchbait or not, he doesn't seem manipulative like he did last game but if it's not Shadow, then who...?

i take this back actually, I think Karnos makes perfect sense for a blitz partner regardless of Shadow's flip, that hammer on Maria could be stopping Kraska's deadline lynch from going through.

What about Thor? I'm iffy on him

[kraska77]

I know this is backwards thinking but after seeing how solid thor's scum game is, his play here doesn't match up to that :/

[kraska77]

but I hate it when I only have a team via PoE because it usually means I'm wrong about something

Ikr
That's how I feel too

[kraska77]

Paint mafia the game I replaced out of
And in derp madness

[kraska77]

but I hate it when I only have a team via PoE because it usually means I'm wrong about something

Ikr
That's how I feel too

It feels too easy

[kraska77]

SHADOW I SEE U ONLINE
ARE U A SCUMZER?

[kraska77]

If shadow were town he'd be yelling at us rn
He scum

[kraska77]

That was obviously an indirect kill

[kraska77]

Shadow seemed really eager to get him lynched yesterday and the day before. Doesn't make sense to push a lynch on LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT MEMBER OF THE TEAM (mafia doctor)

Yeah I was thinking the same...
Elyse then

[kraska77]

That's the thing
Youvr been coasting ever since you got rownread day 1

[kraska77]

Let's go friends
VOTE: karnos

[kraska77]

@Nero
HAMMERU HAMMERU

[kraska77]

Ure town and Michele town
Dunno about elyse she hasn't done anything for days and my townread has long since dissipated

[kraska77]

Yeah
But first let's go through elyse's iso together
Well...after the weekend

[kraska77]

It's pretty obvious who's getting nked tho...
But okay. I don't mind

[kraska77]

Then let's crack this
Last time you were killed and I was left ronery in mylo, I messed shit up

[kraska77]

I'm gonna try dgb's scumputer on the main wagons of days 1 and 2
I'm really dumb with excel tho so this will have to wait until monday

[kraska77]

Lots of crap wagons happened on day 1 so I think there's a lot of input

[kraska77]

I'm kind of worried I slept on you and transcend giga >.>

[kraska77]

VOTE: elyse

[kraska77]

^_^

[kraska77]

Hey hey no pocketing

[kraska77]

Same
I'll be back monday

[kraska77]

so uh

i did scumputer

and i think it's pretty useless... results are:

• Kraska77
  : 2.2
  
  MichelSableheart
  : 2.1
  
  Elyse
  : 1.8

Spoiler: Spreadsheet here

http://imgur.com/lvxTMlZ

i have to look more into this to be honest because while i get the math behind it i didn't expect kraska to be the one who ends up getting the highest score. i also would hate myself forever if i lynched kraska just because of this because it's pretty arbitrary (i think once i'm not overgamed i want to start doing a study on my own to test the validity of scumputer anyway...)

Lol *throws scumputer*

[kraska77]

What do you think of michel/blitz interactions? I wrote Michel off as town early into day 1 bc their interactions didn't make sense for them to be partners

Pedit: ninjad

[kraska77]

Ehh but that post was kind of whatever
I'm talking more about his early rvs posts

[kraska77]

That michel* post

[kraska77]

Vote: Blitzkrieg

A vote is far more likely to generate discussion if you actually give a reasoning that can be discussed. The lack of reasoning with your vote could be the result of the fact that you don't actually want to generate discussion.

I mean this is just.......
But I keep thinking maybe nero's interpretation of this is right and michel thought it was scummier than the rest bc...u know

[kraska77]

You know
Maybe we should start by going through the blitz iso first

[kraska77]

God...blitz iso is useless
Both michel and elyse barely interacted with her
I still feel tho that michel was gamesolving in his own right the entire game, whereas elyse was wriggling around the popular wagons

[kraska77]

this is an interesting post. kraska, i'm going to assume 392 was a slip-up from blitz that confirmed you as town (for now) and ask you why you think Blitz ignores the actual discussion of the quote pyramid to agree with a p-edit? seems like kind of a strange interaction i can't sort

You mean elyse? If she's scum then her team were in bad position at the time. Shadow was being scum read by iai, and the main wagonee (me) at the time was calling both elyse and Titus scum
Switching focus to Maria instead and getting her lynched wouldn't be as incriminating bc Maria was calling town scum

[kraska77]

i'm getting the feeling i'm confbiasing it's elyse all over again

Same
But I'm really unable to see michel as the last scumbuddy here tbh

[kraska77]

Well if you'd stop being chicken I can prove it now

[kraska77]

UNVOTE: elyse
Vote her giga

[kraska77]

</3
Believe in me who believed in you

[kraska77]

Come on you chicken
Do it

[kraska77]

Hey
I'm no transcend
I would like never ever lie to u I don't has the heart to do that

[kraska77]

True...I can't resist hammers

[kraska77]

Lol....

[kraska77]

VOTE: elyse
@giga Hammeru hammeru

[kraska77]

i should get myself policy lynched in future games if it looks like i'll make it to mylo/lylo

[kraska77]

yeah me too
elyse is scum i feel it i feel it in muh bones ...but knowing how shit i am at late game i dont really trust my judgement

[kraska77]

UNVOTE: elyse

[kraska77]

no heartbreaking im a townsie

[kraska77]

Ugh i need more time to decide

I'll get to this tom morning

[kraska77]

she might be winning me over

Really? :/


Hmmm
I still think it's her
But it's hard to say so with certainty when both elyse and Michel have done nothing this game

[kraska77]

VOTE: elyse
Looked at day 1 votecounts and I don't really get the feeling that Michel and blitz+shadow were a unit
theres a lot of gooey scum substance surrounding Shadows "check" on elyse. the way elyse was unanimous to the whole thing and echoing what others were saying rather than add something novel to the table makes me feel better about this vote
most importantly, elyse was never gamesolving, Michel was.

[kraska77]

It's hammer time imo

[kraska77]

So...we're you town elyse?

[kraska77]

im sorry =(

[kraska77]

i should get myself policy lynched in future games if it looks like i'll make it to mylo/lylo

[kraska77]

sigh
seriously this is the third time i fuck up a lylo
next time i am going to do the opposite of what i think i should do

it's funny tho how giga and i trust eachother so much it threw everyone off lol <3

also i should sheep transcend more often hes got great reads

[kraska77]

i should get myself policy lynched in future games if it looks like i'll make it to mylo/lylo

You should stop playing the game if that's your only solution

probably =(

[kraska77]

oooooh @ maria's sig
<3

[kraska77]

Oh yeah this game was fun ^_^

[kraska77]

1) why would blitz use the doc claim to try to save herself later in the game, but if elyse was scum, she'd have had to be the doc yet she claimed VT D1 at L-1???
2) and if elyse went before shadow, shadow would have been autolynched after elyse had fake claimed VT as scum doc, and shadow confirmed that fake claim day 2.

I know I totally would have pulled a gambit like this as scum so i couldnt write her off as town for it...

[kraska77]

But then again I probably should stop assuming all ppls are crazies like me =(