Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

VOTE: red

This works

[Wisdom]

Wis in DRv3 and your only SK loss was town and his play is nothing like those games

I don't have a standard, everyone on the site knows I can't be meta'd
Look at my scum game and you'll realize it's just like the usual town game you're expecting
Me being different does not mean not town

[Wisdom]

VOTE: LLD

This also works

[Wisdom]

I'm not sheeping you I've been saying LLD is scum for a while

[Wisdom]

LLD is a good bet for scum if I could get to the point of Maria and Kokichi lock town. Nobody wants to help me get to that point though so :shrug:

I don't think scum-Kokichi threatens to replace out and then selfvotes on top of it
Maybe one of the two, but a scum that uses those as weapons most likely thinks using two one after another is too much and doesn't do it

[Wisdom]

Did Mastina claimed flavor yet?

Yes, Sudowoodo.

[Wisdom]

mastina is town. I am town. We're masons

What is the flavor justification for you two being masons?

[Wisdom]

I am Alisae. Mastina is Pine/Alisae. Hence, we share alignment.

That sounds like you made it up rather than something Cheetory wrote

I am mastina and Mara is also mastina, and we aren't masons

[Wisdom]

what makes maria town?

Just a feeling while she was being wagoned
I recently played with scum-Maria and I didnt have the same feeling as there

[Wisdom]

Why don't we lynch Lovebird?

Why is she scum?

[Wisdom]

Btw I'm 90% sure that Wisdom is town.

Why is that?

[Wisdom]

Rather than slinging mud, simply lie detect. How hard is it?

Theres no lie detector

[Wisdom]

I could lynch redflvaour...

:/

ditto

[Wisdom]

So youre thinking cheeky/mara/mastina?

pedit @red

[Wisdom]

RedFlavor's catch-up is looking stinky

I mostly agree but he got me with that explanation for the townread on me
I think it showed he actually thought it through

[Wisdom]

So they are lying then?

[Wisdom]

Like they just seem obvious town.

Agreed

[Wisdom]

Me being different does not mean not town

Sure, in of itself, but when you pair it with the actions you are doing along with what direction you're taking the game in (away from the right one), it makes a pretty damn good case!

What actions? What direction?
You continue treating me like you have a guilty on me when I have done nothing to warrant it

[Wisdom]

You continue treating me like you have a guilty on me when I have done nothing to warrant it

You know, there's an old EpicMafia saying which is usually laughed at for being ridiculous, but fuckit it needs to be said:

WHY ME = FRY ME.

And you do it again.

[Wisdom]

The fact I disagree with both of your other scumreads isnt helping either

[Wisdom]

If that was to nico its on deaf ears

[Wisdom]

if youd played with nico enough youd understand

[Wisdom]

Wisdom is displaying a particular attitude which follows the mindset of a scum player.

What attitude?
Is this about me not playing "usual town-Wisdom" again?
Read my scumgames and tell me I am not emulating what youre expecting in them

[Wisdom]

Im coming around to her being town as you probably can tell by my posts

[Wisdom]

But yes, my stance has been that nico was town lying about the mason thing because shes nico

[Wisdom]

Then fucking explain what attitude

[Wisdom]

Okay kokichi remind me who youre scumreading

[Wisdom]

thats easily something i fake as scum

[Wisdom]

EXPLAIN IN WHICH UNIVERSE IS SCUMREADING A MASON A TOWNY MOVE.

In the universe where we don't know you are masons and youre not a trustworthy player

[Wisdom]

/faceclaw
This is going to continue all game until one of us dies

[Wisdom]

Kokichi who else is scum

[Wisdom]

Why are you pushing me when you've seen me claim. Like actually just use your brain cells.

What does this even mean
Whoever claims something is auto-town?

[Wisdom]

I think i could lynch lovebird maybe

[Wisdom]

Sorry if this is in thread but what is Nico's flavor?

Alisae

[Wisdom]

Why are you pushing me when you've seen me claim. Like actually just use your brain cells.

What does this even mean
Whoever claims something is auto-town?

It means you guys could just sort around my claim. Noone has asked me anything about it or thought about how it could reveal my alignment.

Because claiming is bad and we shouldnt be looking to sort people based on claims

[Wisdom]

so do mara and I

[Wisdom]

What flavor do Mara and wisdom have?

mastina

[Wisdom]

Does anyone still think Sudo might be scum or have a good reason they are town
Poe keeps leading me there

[Wisdom]

Im at Lovebird/LLD/Sudo to be precise

[Wisdom]

Sudo is town.

Why

[Wisdom]

I am actually Masons with Lovebird I will double down on this as it becomes relevant.

what

[Wisdom]

You mean to tell me there are

four

people who can conftown

[Wisdom]

idk
Yume insisting so much about it sold me
But if beeboy is telling the truth im back to not believing it

[Wisdom]

VOTE: momo
Like bee look about how they’re talking about my slot its really scummy

momo is like my only solid townread along with nico
pls stahp if youre town

[Wisdom]

I town read lovebird.
I got a secret tell on them.

I believe this. Probably town

This does look like theyre masons

[Wisdom]

Ugh
LLD/Sudo
And someone in {Red, Cheeky, Mara} Im wrong about

[Wisdom]

LLD moving her precious vote onto that kind of wagon does make me more confident there

[Wisdom]

neh youve seen me tunneling

[Wisdom]

Okay then we will

#not moved by this ate attempt

[Wisdom]

Like, in addition to having town-LLD easily back off a push earlier, now we have town-LLD just giving up
Nuh-uh

[Wisdom]

VOTE: sudo

[Wisdom]

Lovebird has to go to green now Maria

[Wisdom]

I am actually Masons with Lovebird I will double down on this as it becomes relevant.

[Wisdom]

I believe that one

[Wisdom]

But yeah anyway it doesnt matter we're not lynching lovebird
Just telling you so you adjust your poe

[Wisdom]

Is he wrong or is he scum though

[Wisdom]

I'm a one shot day cop. Who should I use it on

Maria or LLD or Sudo
Strong scum players who are hard to read and it would be awesome knowing what they are

[Wisdom]

bah

[Wisdom]

LLD you do come across as fake, dont blame kokichi

[Wisdom]

yeah i mean if you're told every game you shouldn't find it strange that kokichi says it

[Wisdom]

Ive played with you and i said it in Danganronpa

[Wisdom]

That kokichi is town and your reason for scumreading him is bad

[Wisdom]

Why cant you change it?

She can onoy change her vote every two days

[Wisdom]

only*

[Wisdom]

ikr

Sadly theyre prolly town on a red Sudo flip

[Wisdom]

Why cant you change it?

She can onoy change her vote every two days

I'd bet my life her flavor is you then. Hahahaha

That was my thought too

[Wisdom]

Jfc Sudo is town.

Why?

[Wisdom]

Like at the moment I have a reason to townread everyone in the game but Sudo

[Wisdom]

Also the whole masons thing they spewed was super town.

Not really
If you were scum and recieved a message from Nico saying theyre masons with mastina what would you do?

[Wisdom]

Jfc Sudo is town.

Why?

They sent me mail with evidence that is effectively an inno to me.

Sorry but I cant trust that and I doubt there's even such a thing in a game with masons

[Wisdom]

Well you already know you're doing something wrong when you TR everyone bar 1.

I mean yeah, I am def wrong somewhere, but PoE points at Sudo

[Wisdom]

Also the whole masons thing they spewed was super town.

Not really
If you were scum and recieved a message from Nico saying theyre masons with mastina what would you do?

Not hard defend them and then try to piece all the mason softs together and then out the knowledge if it meant 2 conf. Scum.

I know they're good...but noone is that good.

what? I dont know what youre saying here
Sudo gets the message and thus knows mastina and Nico now know about him knowing
He has to act the part, if he doesnt he will be suspicious

[Wisdom]

Cheeky pls
I am trying to ganesolve and im pushinf whoever i feel has the greatest chance of being scum at the time

[Wisdom]

Also I feel like I am pretty transparent this game and I should be townread more compared to other games
But then again you dont really know me

[Wisdom]

Nico are you still going to argue you are masons after beeboy's claim?
Or are you saying there are four masons?

[Wisdom]

Why does beeboy fakeclaim masons with Lovebird here Nico?

[Wisdom]

So say I believe you that yours is the legit pair
What is beeboy's motivation here for lying

[Wisdom]

so would two mason pairs really be that much of the stretch?

yes because it means four conftown

[Wisdom]

Everyone else cant be town unless you think there are only two scum

[Wisdom]

And try scumhunting motivations instead of scumreading whoever doesn't agree with you

[Wisdom]

Why do I bother when I know this is useless
whatever

[Wisdom]

Town does not know if you are a mason or not
Stop assuming people should autobelieve you or share your views

[Wisdom]

Like, if I tell you you are scum for doubting beeboy's mason claim using the exact same argument, won't it seem unreasonable to you?

[Wisdom]

You dont need to get people to believe you
We are not lynching you or mastina today
Just scumhunt and stop caring about the mason thing

[Wisdom]

Well guess what? That's right, you don't know whether beeboy is a mason either, yet you instantly believe him.

Because I look at motivations
I cannot understand why beeboy fakeclaims that out of nowhere
While I can understand why you do it

[Wisdom]

Not anymore.

[Wisdom]

I am voting Sudowoodo and I am looking for other scum in {Mara, Cheeky, Red}.
Im not interested in lynching any of the 4 mason claims.

[Wisdom]

Nico I have played with you enough to know how you think and how you play
I dont need to read games

[Wisdom]

However, since you came to your senses, I am done arguing with you.

Okay. Can you accept the town motivation in my actions and consider I am town here?

[Wisdom]

aand waste of time.

[Wisdom]

Whats the point? When you see that I was town youll call me scum mvp or something for "scumreading masons" or whatever

You lack the ability to see things from my pov (or anyone's)

[Wisdom]

Thats not how one scumhunts however
You should consider the other player's POV and decide if their motivations are coming from a town or scum mindset
Just pointing at someone, calling them scum, and refusing to consider anything else from that point is just tunneling and will net you scun only if you are lucky

[Wisdom]

So tell me, why the hell should I listen to what the players I am scumreading have to say?

Because you might be wrong and they might be town

[Wisdom]

I have told you this again. I might seem like I believe I know everything but this is only make-belief. Making scum believe youre absolutely certain they are scum can net you stronger reactions than just being slightly suspect of them. Of course thats a matter of playstyle and knowing what youre doing.

The point is, yes, I am a notorious tunneler, but I have worked on it over the years and I am at a point where I can often recognise bad tunnels and reconsider. And I do that by doing what I told you to do, constantly look from people's pov and see what motivations make sebse.

[Wisdom]

sense*

[Wisdom]

Well okay. I am once again trying to help you here, like I did in Symphonic Metal and like I did in mostly every game with you, because I believe in trying to help someone before ruling them out as stupid. But once again you refuse to listen to anything I say so its a waste of time.

[Wisdom]

Nico if you had changed you wouldnt scumread people for something so shallow as daring to question your mason claim

Nor would that be the only thing in the game you cared about and based your reads on

[Wisdom]

And speaking of looking from other people's POVs, why aren't you looking at things from mine or even considering that we are actually masons?

I am doing both of those

[Wisdom]

That you were probably lucky

I have yet to see you scumread scum for a legit reason in any game

[Wisdom]

Alrighg, here's the whole process:

I see you claiming masons with mastina.
There are three possibilities:
a) You are town telling the truth.
b) You are town, thinking mastina is town for whatever reason, so you fakeclaim to protect them.
c) You are scum fakeclaiming.

I think which of these is most likely (from

your

) pov)
C is not very likely because youd have no reason to do it and link yourself to your buddy. If mastina is not your buddy, she will just deny the claim and you'll be in trouble. There are advanced cases where scum might gambit fakeclaiming masons with a townie but I dont consider you a scum player of that caliber so, unlikely.

So we are between A and B. B is within what I expect from you as town. Based on past experiences with you it will not amaze me if you claim masons with mastina because she told you to in a neighborhood, because you think she is fun to play with and don't want her lynched, or even because someone you dislike (me) voted her! So this scenario looks probable enough to me to consider it and not take the mason claim at face value.

So basically what I do now is try to read mastina through my means, completely disregarding the mason claim. Do I find her posts scummy? Then I scumread her, and the mason claim is irrelevant because scenario C is a possibility. If mastina later becomes more towny, then I will townread her. Basically, the mason claims becomes irrelevant in me sorting mastina.

And there we have it, me, as town, scumreading mastina despite your mason claim.

I want to note here, again, that this is not current and I am not scumreading or wanting to lynch mastina anymore.

[Wisdom]

One game is not proof and frankly I don't care about games I am not in. I am going based on my experiences with you.

[Wisdom]

And again, this is not current.
You are talking about my town motivation back when I scumread mastina.
When I couldnt have known about the game youre linking even if we accept I cared about it.

[Wisdom]

Maybe I am wrong and theres no way youre naive
The point is my town motivation is there.

[Wisdom]

I am done with you. Go doom the town.

Well this at least sounds like you accept I can be town so its progress

[Wisdom]

But I am not voting mastina nor trying to lynch her so wanting to policy me on that basis is irrational

[Wisdom]

I am not now though so you should back off

[Wisdom]

Okay, then keep an eye on me and continue looking for my motivations, while you try to scumhunt other people.

For starters, you can vote Sudowoodo with me, since youre also scumreading them.

[Wisdom]

lie detect was a speculation with no basis and daycop was a joke
Cheeky's claiming that sudo sent her what amounts to a friendly neighbor claim though is subject to this, yes

[Wisdom]

VOTECOUNT 1.16

mastina [1]

- Lovebird

Momrangal [3]

- RedFlavor, MariaR, CheekyTeeky

MariaR [2]

- mastina, MOMOMEN

Lady LambdaDelta [1]

- beeboy

Kokichi Oma [1]

- Kokichi Oma

RedFlavor [2]

- Momrangal, Lady LambdaDelta

NicoRobin [1]

- Sudowoodo

Sudowoodo [2]

- Wisdom, NicoRobin

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-05-16 18:00:00) to do so.

MOMONEN is actually voting Sudowoodo

[Wisdom]

Kokichi vote Sudo please
Red and Mara arent bad votes either
Just use your vote

Same goes for Lovebird

[Wisdom]

We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.

So there are four masons and two people who confirm each other for a total of six conftown

ok

[Wisdom]

Wis if you're wrong everyone should auto-lynch you tomorrow.

"if I am wrong" means Sudo is not conftown to you

[Wisdom]

I don't really think we should be lynching Sudo without checking if this is stuff Pine does as town which I am 99% sure no one has put the effort into doing.

What stuff are you referring to?

[Wisdom]

yeah I don't really care

[Wisdom]

serious talk though
What I "nitpicked" shows he's not actually conftown to you, you're only assuming things. Which makes more sense than him being able to conftown to you in a game with 4 masons. Meaning, you are assuming wrong things and getting pocketed.

[Wisdom]

Pine wanted to policy me for being bad the one time I played with scum-him so it's entirely in his range
The momo push was Ali and basically everything is in Ali's range

[Wisdom]

Then I assume you'll be sharing that info if he's about to be lynched?

[Wisdom]

Pine wanted to policy me for being bad the one time I played with scum-him so it's entirely in his range
The momo push was Ali and basically everything is in Ali's range

I like how you just spew a scum narrative for them to fit your push completely ignoring the rest of their ISO.

im not ignoring anything
Like I said theyve done nothing for me to think they are town, while I do have at least one reason for everyone else in the playerlist

[Wisdom]

Then I assume you'll be sharing that info if he's about to be lynched?

No I won't need to. It'll be obvious on the flip.

So you have information that make him conftown and you'll let him flip without outing it?

[Wisdom]

Ali can push town like that.

not saying he cant
We were discussing whether they do those mentioned things as scum, werent we?

[Wisdom]

Omg drop the bs PoE. If you're that wrong that you only scum read one person you need to start again.

Like how do ypu even town read Mom or Beeboy?

Im not scumreading one person, Ive already said I'm at Sudo + 2 in {Mara, Red, you}

beeboy claimed mason and I believe it, so

[Wisdom]

that makes no sense
Letting conftown die is better than outting info?

[Wisdom]

also lmao
You just said we've dropped enough info yet you're asking me to full claim?

[Wisdom]

sorry that my reads develop based on what's happening

[Wisdom]

I feel like Cheeky is scumclaiming here

[Wisdom]

You're not being objective you're just trying to paint everyone as scum.

I am nowhere doing such a thing. I'm only voicing my thoughts.

[Wisdom]

Then I assume you'll be sharing that info if he's about to be lynched?

No I won't need to. It'll be obvious on the flip.

So you have information that make him conftown and you'll let him flip without outing it?

Yep. We've had enough info dropped we don't need. I'm saying don't lynch him so we don't get to the point it outs both of us. You have yet to full claim after your scummy soft around mastina.

This is a very important point here
It makes no sense to withhold information on conftown and let them die because "we've dropped enough info"
It made me think Cheeky has nothing or at least nothing sufficient to save them so she has to prevent them from getting wagoned altogether with the vague softs

[Wisdom]

Wis if you're wrong everyone should auto-lynch you tomorrow.

"if I am wrong" means Sudo is not conftown to you

Combined with this where she basically slipped he's not conftown to her anyway

[Wisdom]

Why, does Sudo have a stronger role than you?

[Wisdom]

I'm not nitpicking anything, your posts are there for everyone, including you, to see and prove me wrong
Instead you're trying to adhom me and discredit me

[Wisdom]

yep, still adhom and dodging of actual answers

[Wisdom]

Sudo/Cheeky
Last in {Mara/Red}

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

dude come on

[Wisdom]

im scum for making sense now?

look at what cheeky is saying

[Wisdom]

then lets lynch sudo @momo

Even if Im wrong about Cheeky Im not about Sudo

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Wisdom

wow this lasted long

[Wisdom]

Cheeky and I have odd night/even night versions of the same beeboy role. We each know the other, and that we ourselves are Town. This role, which we both have, is of no utility to scum and only makes sense for Town. We are not Masons, and are technically not confirmed to each other, but Town/Town is the only conclusion that makes any sense.

Cheeky - do me a favor and don't reveal more than that.

Even if it's of no utility it can be scum. Town has negative utility. You townreading each other off it to the pointing of fighting to prevent the lynch of the other is bs

[Wisdom]

who the fuck am I discrediting

[Wisdom]

who the fuck am I discrediting

Me and my credibility.

what?

[Wisdom]

youre unbelievable

[Wisdom]

can you go back to voting sudo

[Wisdom]

can you go back to voting sudo

Its about time to end this day, is that who you're sure you want to do?

yes

[Wisdom]

What are your thoughts on the other mason claims and Sudo/Cheeky's matching roles

[Wisdom]

You mean to tell me there are

four

people who can conftown

"What the fuck is this bullshit setup, Cheet? How the fuck was I ever supposed to stand a chance?"

We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.

So there are four masons and two people who confirm each other for a total of six conftown
ok

You know what.
Fuckit.

This is scumplaining.

VOTE: Wisdom.

Now you dont like me trying to make sense of the setup
I cant fucking understand what youre on this game

[Wisdom]

That's Town!Mastina.

It's nice to finally have some goddamn truth.

Mastina, control your partner.

Fuck it

I've been holding Alisae back regarding Wis for long enough. E's had a wolfread on Wis for a while.

Mastina's case convinces me.

VOTE: Wisdom

Palisade mode engaged, fren.

More like mastina pocket mode

[Wisdom]

What "case" convinced you, Pine? Me not being accepting of there being 6 conftown?

[Wisdom]

We win the game if we lynch exclusively within Momrangal/Wisdom/MariaR/Lady Lambdadelta/Kokichi Oma/RedFlavor.

When did Sudo become town?
Youre buying into the matching role bs?

[Wisdom]

If Sudo flips red it means Cheeky is town having the good twin and it potentially also means Mara might have an evil twin of my role since we also share flavor

[Wisdom]

Like if Sudo doesn't confirm their role in depth tomorrow Id be suspicious

Cheeky once again does not seem to share Pine's "we're both conftown" belief, so their roles are definitely not something that rules out scum

[Wisdom]

Maria, what do you think about Wisdom?

What's the thing about Sudo and CT confirming each other?

Why do you keep asking questions instead of taking stances?
Hint, this is a stance

[Wisdom]

What's the thing about Sudo and CT confirming each other?

Anyway, for the case you're really slow town;

Sudo and Cheeky have claimed to each other by using the 1shot message and they have the same flavor and variants of the same role. They think they are both town because of that

[Wisdom]

Sudo/Mara/Red is my current solve

[Wisdom]

Because i scumread him more than my other scumreads who are mostly poe

[Wisdom]

also im a fan of lynching dangerous scum while I still can

[Wisdom]

Ali literally won the medal for best scum
and scumPine is also manipulative as hell

[Wisdom]

I think our difference is that you rely too much on roles while I just want to get the scum I figured by play lynched

I have no guarantee Sudo will have his alignment confirmed and as such I dont want them living longer than they should

[Wisdom]

I dont

If they flipped red, who do you think their buddies would be?

[Wisdom]

Namely none?

[Wisdom]

Point them out instead of throwing buzzwords around

[Wisdom]

maria vote sudo pls

[Wisdom]

do you confirm the mason claim?

wanna vote sudo?

[Wisdom]

even if you don't your vote is useless on mastina so use it

[Wisdom]

you dont have daytalk?

[Wisdom]

hai
vote sudo with the cool kids

[Wisdom]

can you please not be useless for a second

[Wisdom]

Cheeky do you want to compromise on Red? Ill do that if nobody else wants to vote Sudo

[Wisdom]

Prefer red to mara but ill do that too if it comes to it

[Wisdom]

Youve been saying you believe there are masons
Not that there are two pairs

[Wisdom]

Who is scum mara
Poe is pointing at you rn
Help me out if youre town

[Wisdom]

I honestly don't know where to look at for scum. My PoE imploded on itself

walk me through your thoughts

[Wisdom]

I can't get a good handle on you. I don't like how you brought up the evil twin thing and is kinda going back and forth between trying to push me and getting me to talk and open up to you

If you say you see how mechanically it makes sense there's scum in sudo/cheeky, how are you not suspect it might be happening with us as well?

[Wisdom]

also, I am getting you to talk exactly because i am suspecting you because of this mechanic and poe and I want to get an actual read on you that has to do with your play

[Wisdom]

Which posts were they?
Ali can make pretty strong posts as scum

[Wisdom]

yeah all of those posts are Ali and I dont feel any of them are out of his range

[Wisdom]

Both seem to start preparing for a vote on me

[Wisdom]

Like, theyre both voting each other yet they say nothing about each other in this latest catchup

[Wisdom]

Because it doesnt
Sudo and cheeky just know they have similar roles

[Wisdom]

Wisdom we don't have 4 masons either.

VOTE: RedFlavor

I am ok with pressuring this slot.

I agree but youre both insisting youre masons and exploring it even further than i have will only help scum

[Wisdom]

VOTE: red

[Wisdom]

you didnt understand
I want to read your play rather than read you on assumptions about your role

@mara

[Wisdom]

Cheeky i don't think kokichi is scum
Youre probably turned off by his playstyle as it usually happens

[Wisdom]

I don't think scum-Kokichi threatens to replace out and then selfvotes on top of it
Maybe one of the two, but a scum that uses those as weapons most likely thinks using two one after another is too much and doesn't do it

This is why I have a townlean on him

[Wisdom]

when there supposedly is a town god-father this game.

srsly
Pretty obvious beeboy was joking around there

[Wisdom]

I disagree with your momo read, both heads are pretty town

[Wisdom]

And as for Kokichi, how is this not his town game? He's as useless as he always is D1
It can be argued scum-him could emulate this but that's not what you're saying
And I obviously disagree about the double AtE there but whatever

[Wisdom]

when there supposedly is a town god-father this game.

srsly
Pretty obvious beeboy was joking around there

I thought so too, but when I checked his ISO he reinforced the point seriously after what looked like a joke claim.

it's still him trolling

[Wisdom]

I said what myself?

[Wisdom]

Oh, that catchup that felt different you mean? Eh

[Wisdom]

I do not like her having me as null
She's the person in this playerlist who should be able to tell I am town here

[Wisdom]

And why would I be able to conf town new wisdom when my accuracy on old wisdom was as good as random?

Or do you not remember all the times we used to cross tunnel each other as town?

What new wisdom? Im really not very different than usual besides trying to talk to people a little more
I don't expect you to feel I'm super town but the reasons that you cited that supposedly are keeping you back from townreading me are not even the right ones
Id understand paranoia because ive fooled you before, or being sceptical because we share flavor like cheeky and sudo, but "alternating between buddying you and pushing you"? I haven't even done either of the two - talking to you was an attempt to read you and my vote hasnt been on you once. And youve seen me actually pushing people and what that entails.
I do remember times we fought as town but what I remember more is that you were one of few people who could tell im town even in playerlists that were difficult for me

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And as such I cant help but think that youre refraining from townreading me because you want to keep this option open for you, especially seeing as people like mastina scumread me, as well as not to encourage those people to stop scumreading me

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the last part is the only thing I agree with, the rest of this "case" is awful

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as in, I agree I should be in PoE scum if I'm null to her
PoE literally means "those I'm not townreading"

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I now have a completed game with scum kokichi where i read him correctly

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When did you trick me? I figured you out the moment you shaded me
Kinda like mara is doing here

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I would like to lynch Redflavour or Kokichi today.

What about mara?

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Momrangal

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i call her mara because her main used to be ms marangal

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before i was just default townreading you

Anyway youve now seen me nailing scum in two games
Wanna trust my reads in this game too?

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To make direct parallels with the other game
Red is brass, lower skill scum player with cringy posts
Mara is you, hanging in the balance between shading me and townreading me
And Sudowoodo is Sugar, omgus pushing me with crap arguments