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I just said I am not that naive to townread her just because she told me to and cited a game as proof, so you are stupid for still believing I am naive.
Go read this
If you come back and tell me I am fakeclaiming mason with her just because she told me to, then I'll concede the point.
But not before you do the above.- NicoRobin
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Well, then your views are meaningless cos you don't see the bigger picture.In post 1926, Wisdom wrote:One game is not proof and frankly I don't care about games I am not in. I am going based on my experiences with you.- NicoRobin
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I would, but I am paranoid about you still. After SU2, I made a promise to myself not to trust anyone, and something tells me that trusting you would come back to bite me big time in the end.In post 1937, Wisdom wrote:I am not now though so you should back off- NicoRobin
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I wasn't referring to singular 'you'. I was referring to the players in game, plural.In post 1950, MOMOMEN wrote:
Can you read my iso before you post stuff like this? Half my posting is defending you and Mastina.In post 1511, NicoRobin wrote:
It's you who is making my life difficult for wanting to lynch my mason partner. >.>In post 1508, MOMOMEN wrote:why are you intentionally making my life difficult yume :/
By the way, congratulations, you forced me to come out into the open, ensuring that we'll be killed.- NicoRobin
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You discredit other people yet for some reason, nobody is allowed to discredit you?
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Me and my credibility.In post 2070, Wisdom wrote:who the fuck am I discrediting- NicoRobin
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I am not voting there unless you bribe me with crackers, and my partner won't either. We have reasons.In post 2571, MOMOMEN wrote:
Mastina and Nico, come hammer please.In post 2554, Wisdom wrote:unofficial VC
Sudowoodo [5] - Lovebird, MOMOMEN, Sudowoodo, Wisdom, RedFlavor
Wisdom [4] - NicoRobin, mastina, Momrangal, MariaR
RedFlavor [2] - Lady LambdaDelta, beeboy
Lady LambdaDelta [1] - Kokichi Oma
Kokichi Oma [1] - CheekyTeeky
Sudo will obv go back to voting me so we need 3 votes here
Im assuming Cheeky wont vote Sudo
The rest of you who arent voting them, are you going to? Or should I vote Red?- NicoRobin
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Nobody is gonna apologize to you unless you apologize to others yourself.In post 2618, Wisdom wrote:I want to see how you'll apologize for all this bs when you see my flip- NicoRobin
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My point still stands, he told us we are confirmed town. Not 'You are masons' or any variation thereof, as he would if we were scum masons. He told us that we are confirmed town to each other.
I briefly reconsidering my stance on your predecessor, but you are spouting the same sort of nonsense he did, so I am keeping my vote where it is.- NicoRobin
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5 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes.In post 2902, Kokichi Oma wrote:How much time do we have- NicoRobin
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No, she is not. We'll see which one of us is right post-game
Hint: I am.- NicoRobin
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She won't be killing me. She can't kill me either.In post 2931, beeboy wrote:I want Mastina to gambit and kill Nico Robin to keep me and lovebird alive.
I don't see what part of this you guys don't understand.- NicoRobin
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Actually, it's the opposite. I am the expendable one here and if you're gonna lynch one of us, it will be me. She is the one who should live.In post 2953, beeboy wrote:OTM I just want to make something clear given this situation.
I do think Mastina is scum a lot of the time here, but the claims themselves doesn't mean I am ever going to lynch Nico Robin.- NicoRobin
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This reasoning, right here, is why you should hammer. It did wonders for me when I caught scum once before, and it will do so now as well.In post 2950, mastina wrote:
Simple.In post 2896, OnTheMark wrote:The bigger question is why none of the mason claims scum read each other after both have doubled down.
Because I am using the metric every fucking player should be using.
Play > Role.
And Roleclaim != Alignment.
With a side of the exception to the rule on role != alignment in that yes some roleclaims DO equal alignment and scum don't fucking counterclaim masons on D1.
beeboy's play is ridiculously, transparently town.
Lovebird's play is strongly town especially if Lovebird is an alt of the player I think they are an alt of. (If Lovebird were said player, Lovebird would be all-but-explicitly-conftown on play alone.)
Scum don't counterclaim masons on D1 especially knowing that we WILL be flipping masons and they WOULD get in trouble for it.
Scum also don't casually claim masons in the way beeboy did.
Scum also don't leave the breadcrumbs for being masons in the way beeboy and Lovebird did.
The reason I am not suspicious of beeboy or Lovebird in spite of their counterclaim is because it is transparently obvious they are town.
Are they masons? Fucked if I know. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. But regardless. Masons, not masons. They are town either way.
And continuing to shadethrow the masons continues to be a scumclaim.
Because once more.
Scum cannot win this game if both sets of masons are treated as conftown.
So they fucking NEED to try and get people doubting one if not both of the masons.
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Hammer. >.>In post 2984, beeboy wrote:I mean Mastina, the thing about Cheetory not answering questions publically or privately doesn't apply to scum.- NicoRobin
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Look at PTIn post 2991, mastina wrote:
Another way of saying it.In post 2987, mastina wrote:
Yes it does.In post 2984, beeboy wrote:I mean Mastina, the thing about Cheetory not answering questions publically or privately doesn't apply to scum.
Scum don't magically have more access to information on how roles-not-their-own-or-in-their-fakeclaims work.
If they did, that's poor fucking modding.
You know why?
Because it is mod bias in favor of scum.
Mods are meant to be impartial.
Scum should not have access to information on roles other than their own/safeclaims unless town has access to that very same information.
So unless you wanna argue that the mod handed Nico and I a mason safeclaim.
Or that Cheet is a bad mod who biased the setup in favor of scum by allowing scum to basically have a free rolecop just by asking questions to him. (Because that's EXACTLY what giving answers to scum not available to town is.)
My point holds.
If the mod answers scum asking about information on their own role, that's fine; that is to be expected.
If the mod answers town asking about information on their own role, that's fine; that is to be expected.
If the mod answers scum asking about information on their mod-provided safeclaims, that's fine; that is to be expected.
If the mod refuses to answer town about information on a role which isn't their own on the merits that it isn't their role, then that is their preference as a moderator and a valid choice.
Okay, good so far, yes?
You agree?
You follow.
Alright.
So what's the logical extension of this?
If the mod refuses to answer scum about information on a role which isn't their own and isn't one of their safeclaims, then that is the extension of the town decision.
Consistent moderation, unbiased. Scum can't access something town cannot, unless the information is given in the scum's roles or the scum's fakeclaims. Fair, balanced, even, both sides denied the same thing and being given the same thing.
If Cheetory gave answers to scum about information on a role which was NEITHER their own NOR one of their safeclaims...
...While refusing to give answers to town about information on a role which isn't their own...
...Does that sound unbiased to you?
Fuck no, because it's not; it's biased in favor of scum.
Plain and simple.
There's no ambiguity here.
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I never said that.In post 2994, beeboy wrote:
I don't think you have role based info to believe OTM is scum.In post 2990, NicoRobin wrote:Why? Because I have, should I say, an ability that would give you that incentive if you truly townread me.- NicoRobin
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You tonread me, so just damn trust me, okay?In post 2997, beeboy wrote:If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.- NicoRobin
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and answer my question while you're at it: what's the point of townreading me if you cannot even trust me enough here?In post 2997, beeboy wrote:If I had to guess myself I'd say the slot was town.
I just don't like pulling triggers like that without really putting the thought into the read or having some kind of tell to back it up.- NicoRobin
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Guess what the town had to say about scum before I caught them?In post 3001, beeboy wrote:I feel like the way OTM is approaching this push is the way they'd be doing it as town.
I think there are easier pushes to make here as well.
Wisdom himself was also pretty reasonably playing in a way I'd expect him to as town.
I just have 0 idea as to how both these players would approach the game as scum I don't really want to shove this read down anyone's throat the way I'd do if you start pushing my other reads.
That's right, they said that scum had easier targets to push on.
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I didn't want to reveal this yet, but.....
@beeboy
If you just hammer, I will lay your fears of mastina being scum once and for all tomorrow. I have the ability to confirm us as masons in public, and no scum may interfere with this ability. I told this much to her, and she can vouch.
This is reason enough to trust me and hammer, is it not.- NicoRobin
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I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.- NicoRobin
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Yes, I can, and I will. Good luck with that.In post 3018, OnTheMark wrote:
You can’t lolIn post 3016, NicoRobin wrote:I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.
You seriously can’t
Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.
Otherwise you’d push the other pair
It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game
Yet you push me instead of the other pair
I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed- NicoRobin
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Meet Mini 1936, a game with four active confirmables + one semi-confirmable. Again, nice try.In post 3018, OnTheMark wrote:
You can’t lolIn post 3016, NicoRobin wrote:I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.
You seriously can’t
Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.
Otherwise you’d push the other pair
It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game
Yet you push me instead of the other pair
I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed- NicoRobin
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And it was me, Dio, all along.In post 3025, MOMOMEN wrote:
TBF it makes sense a Yume themed game would have a fuck ton of town power to balance it outIn post 3022, NicoRobin wrote:
Meet Mini 1936, a game with four active confirmables + one semi-confirmable. Again, nice try.In post 3018, OnTheMark wrote:
You can’t lolIn post 3016, NicoRobin wrote:I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.
You seriously can’t
Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.
Otherwise you’d push the other pair
It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game
Yet you push me instead of the other pair
I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed- NicoRobin
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Nice try. Want a cracker?In post 3037, OnTheMark wrote:The fake mason claim can not afford me saving the cop results
So I have to die if you’re scum
So they can’t get me they go to momrangel- NicoRobin
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nah, you are just looking to save your buddy.In post 3084, Kokichi Oma wrote:or we could get a better wagon - NicoRobin
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