Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 1:55 am

ugh. whatever.

i'm good.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 1:56 am

In post 1511, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 1508, MOMOMEN wrote:why are you intentionally making my life difficult yume :/
It's you who is making my life difficult for wanting to lynch my mason partner. >.>

By the way, congratulations, you forced me to come out into the open, ensuring that we'll be killed.

Can you read my iso before you post stuff like this? Half my posting is defending you and Mastina.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 1:57 am

In post 1611, beeboy wrote:
In post 1608, MOMOMEN wrote:tell wisdom why he's scum so he can tell you why you're wrong. it's how mafia works. not passive aggressive ego measuring.
What mafiascum games do you play where the latter isn't exactly how it works???

when he was mad earlier on discord i told him playing on ms you basically need to treat everyone else like they're grade 9s and deal with them as such. you can hold a conversation with them, some are moderately intelligent, but in the end they're still immature, selfish, and just generally inexperienced.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 1:59 am

In post 1633, Lovebird wrote:
In post 1245, MOMOMEN wrote:{cheeky, eddie, yume, mastina} are aligned with town

good start
Why mastina

Because her Mason partner is townie? Also, her play isn't particularly scummy

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:01 am

In post 1699, Sudowoodo wrote:
In post 1696, beeboy wrote:I dont particularly think the post you quoted was scummy?
It's an agenda based read

lol'd

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:02 am

In post 1707, CheekyTeeky wrote:Sudo is town.

you can explain better than this

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:03 am

In post 1711, beeboy wrote:I am actually Masons with Lovebird I will double down on this as it becomes relevant.

if you are townreading Lovebird enough to fake masons with them let me know, i'll trust that read. its a VERY important distinction though, because then we have to deal with the fact we have 2 pairs of mason claims.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:03 am

In post 1714, Sudowoodo wrote:I claimed privately to Cheeky btw
It only means something to Cheeky though.

so scum!you tried to pocket cheeky or town!you tried to pocket cheeky. got it.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:04 am

In post 1720, Sudowoodo wrote:
In post 1719, Wisdom wrote:You mean to tell me there are
four
people who can conftown
mastina is fakeclaiming as always Yume is fakeclaiming when she specificly said earlier she wasn’t a mason there’s just 2 I’ve never seen 4 masons in my life

i have. also, kind of makes sense with the neg util roles town got. we need to establish the claims are real to start.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 am

In post 1724, Sudowoodo wrote:Like are these interactions with me on this page really things that come from town
If so I’ll back off and go back to LLD but they don’t look like it.

i thought we were lock town?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 am

In post 1729, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1137, Lovebird wrote:
In post 951, beeboy wrote:I town read lovebird.
I got a secret tell on them.
I believe this. Probably town
This does look like theyre masons

it is a good crumb

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:07 am

In post 1752, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:wait, people are voting for Momo?

you people are fucking ridiculous. How stupid are you. I literally outlined why this is an awful fucking idea. Play around Momo's role and stop being stupid.

only 1 dumb and 1 scum. we aren't gonna get lynched don't worry <3

and hbd

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:07 am

In post 1754, MariaR wrote:I want you all to know this game started 2 days ago and you've already made this go in the 1700s
sweet jesus

lmao

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:09 am

In post 1796, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1788, Kokichi Oma wrote:I can lynch LLD. The anger seems fake. Trying to emphasis the curse words to make her seem angrier than she really is.
This is a lynchable post, by the way.

Given 1) I'm not angry, I'm demotivated and trying to make myself care and 2) my anger is never fake, as any alignment and Kokichi has played with me enough to know this.

i will agree i have not seen any anger from LLD at all lol

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:10 am

In post 1824, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also the whole masons thing they spewed was super town.

no it was not lol

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:11 am

In post 1830, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1826, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1824, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also the whole masons thing they spewed was super town.
Not really
If you were scum and recieved a message from Nico saying theyre masons with mastina what would you do?
Not hard defend them and then try to piece all the mason softs together and then out the knowledge if it meant 2 conf. Scum.

I know they're good...but noone is that good.

that wouldn't even be good play

-

we might need to mass claim d1 LOL

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:12 am

In post 1849, NicoRobin wrote:You really think everyone who decides to claim mason is telling the truth? O.o

I repeat, if you're faking masons I'm policy lynching you in every game we ever end up in again.

If you're telling the truth this post means nothing.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:12 am

In post 1857, Sudowoodo wrote:Yeah Yume I'll believe mastina is ur mason buddy.

tbh I'm moreso voting you because I think keeping you at LyLo is a terrible terrible mistake with how this day played out.
I'll probably change it later if people talk me out of it.

A

Mason

Claim

Won't

Be

Alive

At

Lylo

lmao

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:13 am

at least 1 of the pair will be dead by then, either by lynch or by nk. lol.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:15 am

In post 1962, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 1950, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 1511, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 1508, MOMOMEN wrote:why are you intentionally making my life difficult yume :/
It's you who is making my life difficult for wanting to lynch my mason partner. >.>

By the way, congratulations, you forced me to come out into the open, ensuring that we'll be killed.
Can you read my iso before you post stuff like this? Half my posting is defending you and Mastina.
I wasn't referring to singular 'you'. I was referring to the players in game, plural.

you responded to me and said you.....

but oh okay

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 2:17 am

Cheeky is blatantly town, and I caught them in what was probably their most proud scum game ever so )))) Mastina and Yume are day 1 mason claims and its ludicrous this many of you are retarded enough to try and lynch in claimed masons day 1. Even. If. They're. Scum. Bad. Play. Fucking shame.

I haven't seen Beeboy's scum game and this is way more effort than I'm used to, but it seems like /generally/ good stuff and I can call him town without hating myself atm.

That's about where my actual town reads end because yall are insisting on being gamethrowing scumfucks. Mom has some pings but overall he's a town lean for <redacted>. EDIT: and KTS outed we think they're a possible power role, so <unredacted>. Lovebird is in their town meta more than their scum one, I don't like their catchup but they're still likely town ig.

I can't really explain it but LLD seems extremely slightly town. Just their lack of control on the game. The way they handled me in TM was a bit different, I don't think scum LLD would be as controlling at this part of the game anyways but like I dunno if I have to waffle in a direction it's town. I would like to believe Maria can read someone she's played 50 games with to the point they won't 100% confidently say they're town if they're scum, so I guess I need to call Kokichi town despite what I'd like to. He has a godawful iso though to be fair he's at page 20 so that could be an explanation.

I don't have any outright scumreads at this point (inb4 its because the masons are 2 of the scum Kappa BibleThump). Maria is a little in their town meta, but it feels unnatural how they're treating our hydra now and they do weird ass ate shit as scum so iunno. Wis is just better than he's been here with his constant nonsensical pushes. Sudo's pushes on the hydras and that whole interaction is godawful, and they're both players with better scum games, though I did get a couple random town pings from their posts. I still don't remember any posts from Red.

To sum up,

{Eddie, Cheeky} - town
{Mastina, Yume} - mason claim grants immunity. still waiting on a thing. yume, i swear to god, if you're lying about being masons and do the thing i'm blacklisting you for real.
{Beeboy} - townie
{Mom, Lovebird} - townish
{LLD, Kokichi} - meh
{Maria, Wis, Sudo, Red} - scummish

This was written about 15-20 pages ago butu is still mostly recent. we need to establish what's happening with bee and love. 2 mason claims is possible (and hell we've seen neg util town) but it isnt if we ALSO have things like a lie detector and a day cop and whatever other fakeclaim bs is happening. i still don't have any strong scumreads.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 4:50 am

BeeBoy. Are You a MASON with Lovebird? I am not interested in lynching Lovebird either way. You need to be honest here.

do not ignore this question

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 4:52 am

{MOMO, Yume, Mastina, Beeboy, Lovebird, Cheeky}

6 out of 13 players. this game is almost solved.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 4:55 am

LLD, what's your read on me entirely seperate from my claim?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 4:56 am

Same to Pine actually.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 5:02 am

:thonkang:

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:40 am

So you are saying we have 2 sets of masons?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:53 am

Well Lovebird can see everything you're typing so she'll correct what needs to be

you or lovebird could use that 1 message we all have to tell me whats actually going on if you townread me hard enough

but from where i'm at, i'm looking at this from a balance pov and 2 people who have a PT that townread each other is VERY different from 2 people who got a pm that states the other is town.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 10:20 am

VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 10:26 am

In post 2019, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2016, Wisdom wrote:serious talk though
What I "nitpicked" shows he's not actually conftown to you, you're only assuming things. Which makes more sense than him being able to conftown to you in a game with 4 masons. Meaning, you are assuming wrong things and getting pocketed.
No theyre confirm town to me so whatever. There's no way they could know the info they sent me without it being legit. You're just being dumb.

I'm going to be very clear to you, though.

In the micro, I caught scum you because unlike 90% of everyone I understand mechanics. Everyone else had you as CONF TOWN because of mechanics. Just like you have alisae as CONF TOWN because of mechanics. I think we should mass claim at this point. Maybe we end up doing it, maybe we don't. But we have two pairs of masons claiming, a person claiming conf town with someone ELSE, and that amounts to 6 conf towns out of 13 players. So basically, 3 scum, 4 townies (including myself), and 6 ics. That is not a setup. You are wrong, or one of the pairs of masons are lying or scum. Its possible Mastina and Yume are scum together, but I don't want to hear the Yume hate I don't think she's bad enough to lie about this, so if you want to argue that you need to argue Yume scum. Its possible Beeboy and Lovebird are scum, but again, I doubt either of them is stupid enough to fake that. Otherwise, you're just wrong about your conf towniness. Out. right. wrong. And that is why I think we need a mass claim. This game is making no sense. The only downside is if scum have a vig and/or other very powerful roles, but even with a scum vig this wouldn't be a setup. This would need to be a god damn cult game for that balance to work.

So I want you to tell me straight up, is SUDOWOODO confirmed town or

just a strong townread?

. Are YOU Confirmed town to them?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 10:28 am

In post 2057, Wisdom wrote:im scum for making sense now?

look at what cheeky is saying

cheeky hates scum

i REALLY dont think this is the level of involvement cheeky scum has, and this is coming off of me catching him in the best game of his life. if he's scum here, congragulations he's improved a metric fuck ton as scum in the span of a month and deserves the win.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 10:29 am

also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn

FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 11:12 am

can u 2 shut up about nai irrelevant shit lmao

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 11:15 am

In post 2060, Sudowoodo wrote:Cheeky and I have odd night/even night versions of the same beeboy role. We each know the other, and that we ourselves are Town. This role, which we both have, is of no utility to scum and only makes sense for Town. We are not Masons, and are technically not confirmed to each other, but Town/Town is the only conclusion that makes any sense.

Cheeky - do me a favor and don't reveal more than that.

See? Thank you. That is not the only conclusion that makes sense. I don't think there's any need to reveal the role.

Now, for the less fun for you part. If the roles a cop, doctor, any other similar thing, then that doesn't say ...anything... about your alignments. When I've seen odd/even night of the same/similar roles its scum/town about half the time, and t/t the other half, plus the random scum even night roleblocked scum odd night roleblocker type things. Unless its friendly neighbour or the like it means nothing for your alignments.

Which is why Cheeky was completely off base calling you conf town and if you're scum could've been actively gamethrowing. Maybe you're town, maybe you're not, but its not because of the role. Lol. Alisae, you're a goddamn game designer this is not something I should have to tell you.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 11:18 am

In post 1985, MOMOMEN wrote:{MOMO, Yume, Mastina, Beeboy, Lovebird, Cheeky}

6 out of 13 players. this game is almost solved.

Still relevant.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 11:18 am

In post 2078, Wisdom wrote:can you go back to voting sudo

Its about time to end this day, is that who you're sure you want to do?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 5:33 pm

In post 2100, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2058, MOMOMEN wrote:coming off of me catching him in the best game of his life.
For the record it was my second scum game. My first was better imo.

o

i thought u were happy with that game

(nai irrelevant shit!!)

ofc i still think youre town here theres a huuuuge town difference

so can we go back to what hit you in the head to make you derptunnel us?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:23 pm

okay

kts is caught up

we agree there's 1 scum for sure in wis and sudo for sure

this day needs to end

i nominate we lynch one of the two before page 90 and be done with it

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:26 pm

I'm letting KTS get to the claim stuff first. As of now he thinks its Sudo. He hasn't seen the odd night etc.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:30 pm

In post 2108, CheekyTeeky wrote:I tunneled you? I had a moment of voting you and am still suspicious of your interactions with Mastina early game. I think KTS's catch up triggered me. Doesn't feel like I thought town him would feel - like dominating and egotistical is what I expect. Instead he feels LAMIST and meek.

Normally that'd be fair, but I'm the dominant one in the relationship.

-

bee the way you're talking makes me think you are fakeclaiming masons and it annoys me.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:36 pm

And now you see it, Bee.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:45 pm

We could just lynch Mom and let night resolve /something/

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:46 pm

But nah, I still think lynching Sudo is the right play. Or Wis. Probably Sudo. I just want flips.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:48 pm

In post 2118, CheekyTeeky wrote:I low key think that all the matching roles could possibly have evil twins but I think the alignments will become more obvious after all of the actions. Like if Sudo doesn't confirm their role in depth tomorrow Id be suspicious, also if Wis flips scum that kind of clears mastina for me since Wis claimed a similar role to mastina earlier. This works vice versa too. A flip there helps me to see if my theory holds true.

The "evil twin" to mason is just scum. Multiple people, confirmed same alignment, with a PT. lol.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:49 pm

gn fellow birbs someone push me so i have something to shout out when i wake up please

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 6:50 pm

In post 2108, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2102, MOMOMEN wrote:so can we go back to what hit you in the head to make you derptunnel us?
I tunneled you? I had a moment of voting you and am still suspicious of your interactions with Mastina early game. I think KTS's catch up triggered me. Doesn't feel like I thought town him would feel - like dominating and egotistical is what I expect. Instead he feels LAMIST and meek.

Anyway I'm backing off because LLD has a point about leaving you for later.

in mafia, being aggressive and tunneling someone in an 80 pg game is useless. youre not creating anymore content than what could already be found in isos, and nobody is gonna look at you any different because you can yell loud. im laying low simply to formulate appropriate reads without much pressure on me and also because im overgamed, i think. games sort of easy, dont need to fill it with more trash.

on that note, as i get older, i realize being egotistical and ate like kind of sucks. im a dominating player for sure, but i prefer to do so while having fun with my friends. ate isnt fun anymore, and i like to play mafia like it's generally meant to be without killing friendships.

on that note popping in to inform you all that mom and sudo are the lynch targets. kukichi would also be good as their ate sucks, and their play is even worse. their ate makes up for nothing.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 05, 2018 7:20 pm

VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

MOMOMEN · Sun May 06, 2018 6:09 am

VOTE: Sudo

MOMOMEN · Sun May 06, 2018 10:59 am

In post 2174, Kokichi Oma wrote:Admit you cant read me and I'll think about it

why is this relevant to you

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 1:06 am

see? game dead. apathy.just lynch someone.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 3:18 am

if were compromising let's do mara

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 7:03 am

you're not getting ran up to claim we want a lynch not yet another claim lmfao

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 11:11 am

im not moving anywhere. sudo is where the lynch is happening. period

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 11:12 am

^^KTS

but I approve

-Eddie

Cheeky. Can you confirm Sudo's alignment as town? Yes or no. I don't care about their role, I believe their claim.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 12:39 pm

Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

MOMOMEN · Mon May 07, 2018 6:15 pm

In post 2250, MOMOMEN wrote:Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

i feel betrayed

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 4:41 am

In post 2288, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2283, Momrangal wrote:Strong town
Sudowoodo
Momomen
Also can you talk about why you strong read Momomen?

why do you hate me

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 4:42 am

In post 2263, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 2250, MOMOMEN wrote:Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL
i feel betrayed

if they have roles that help each other we should listen

.

if u revote I'm cool w that too

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 9:54 am

In post 2311, Killthestory wrote:
In post 2303, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2302, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2300, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I would like to lynch Redflavour or Kokichi today.
Clear omgus
It's not OMGUS if you're scum and I have reasons for thinking that.

But please, go on, try to discredit me.

Fire me up.
Make me care about this game, I fucking dare you
.
pls don't say things like, and don't follow thru with them either.

i'm cool with mom and sudo. idrk red all that well anymore, been a well since we played, but i don't remember him caring this much as a villa.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 2:18 pm

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 3:56 pm

hey wisdom

thoughts on us both synching perfectly last game and thinking sudo is scum here

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 4:23 pm

the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 4:30 pm

i'm most confident in sudo, and i don't really care about how easy it is to lynch sudo. nobody has high townreads on the slot, but the resistance is palpable. that's pretty telling, too.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 08, 2018 6:13 pm

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 5:41 am

Eddie here!

KTS is really sure on Sudo. Also, I've had a good streak and I also agree Sudo's the best flip. I support lynching there even though I did move the vote.

Wisdom get your ass back on. Beeboy sheep your fake mason. LLD actually I'll enlist you to get the lynch through. You're BoPing me, right? Let me take the burden.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 5:47 am

In post 2393, Sudowoodo wrote:Also Eddie remind me to avoid KTS later ty.

KTS is cool.

If you green I'm probably going Wisdom fwiw

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:16 am

i ruined the game because i scumread you? are you a fucking 12 year old? stop being a whiny bitch and respond to what i said.

like i'm getting to the point where i'm just so fucking of these chucklefucks telling me i'm shit every game when i constantly hit wolves. learn to fucking wolf

jesus christ

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:17 am

if your strategy is be rude to people who are playing the game and haven't even slightly mean to you, just shut the fuck up.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:40 am

your scum game is much much better than your town game and anyone who fits that doesn't really have a wolf range to be out of

its more that pretty much half the game is town (mastina, yume, lovebird, beeboy, cheeky, momo), your pushing around some of those is eh, i want the day over, and i've townread some of your stuff but bleh. your flip is the best in PoE. kts is confident and i've learned to listen to hydra mates. i don't hydra with people i wouldn't trust reads wise.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:40 am

-eddie

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:47 am

i've never been wrong about anything ever period.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:50 am

your wolf game isn't amazing, but its definitely good and significantly better than your town game. i have a doc i've been working on where i rate players to try and draw cross comparisons in skill and your wolf is rated much higher than town. sorry ali, this lynch is happening.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:50 am

In post 2427, Sudowoodo wrote:FUCKING VOTE ME BECAUSE NOT ONLY AM I GARBAGE AT FUCKING MAFIA I'M ALSO A GARBAGE HUMAN BEING

and knock off the ate, lmao. it doesnt help anyone.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 6:56 am

In post 2431, Sudowoodo wrote:SO YOU'RE LYNCHING ME OUT OF FEAR
BRILLIANT
ATLEAST YOU'RE LYNCHING ME BECAUSE I'M ONLY ANTI-TOWN WHENEVER I PLAY MAFIA SO GOOD FUCKING JOB
YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS PROTOWN
CONGRADULATIONS.

In post 2433, Sudowoodo wrote:
In post 2429, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 2427, Sudowoodo wrote:FUCKING VOTE ME BECAUSE NOT ONLY AM I GARBAGE AT FUCKING MAFIA I'M ALSO A GARBAGE HUMAN BEING
and knock off the ate, lmao. it doesnt help anyone.
NO FUCK YOU
YOU PUSHED ME THIS FUCKING FAR THIS IS WHAT YOU FUCKING GET

i've been very nice as far as my standards go. and this is not a paranoia lynch, knock it off.

In post 2430, beeboy wrote:Tbh I have one of those spread sheets as well lmao.

Also don't lynch Sudo ty.

either state why they're town or no. this is probably scum AtE. if it isn't, i'll apologize to Ali after I see a flip.

(oog: you're not rated in mine, i don't think i know your game well enough and haven't bothered diving

mine i scale 1-10 to make it easier but i have no 1s or 10s and only 1 9 lol)

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:00 am

I'm not going to keep talking to you while you're being like this.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:02 am

In post 2439, beeboy wrote:I just think you are incorrectly evaluating how likely it is you are actually being lynched right now.

Actually I think it is you incorrectly evaluating.

In post 2438, beeboy wrote:my scale has like 3 8s
and 1, 9 being elli.

haha,

no comment.

i'm going to try and cover most active players i think its much more useful for comparing skill than just "you're okay, you're good, you're pretty good ya, etc" yknow?

on a game related note you're gonna need to town case ali, explain why we shouldn't lynch them, or accept we're going against your wishes.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:03 am

i've never met a bigger cry baby

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:04 am

Oh. Cheeky doesn't want Ali lynched because they're odd/even prots. Lol. Fair enough.

pedit

above is kts

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:05 am

do u know LLDs?

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:05 am

am i the only solo person lmao

-eddie and above

although technically i have a hydra so that makes sense i guess ???? lol

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:07 am

hm

game note

EVERYONE IS PAIRS

except for the hydra

which is a pair

and solves the odd number of players issue

bee / love aren't actually masons, bee just lock towns lovebird on play

mastina and yume are masons

lld and red are who fuckin knows

cheeky and ali are informed even/odd night docs

maria and kokichi are probably something based on maria's play

mara and wisdom are PoE k i s s i n g

??

lol

fun random useless spec

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:09 am

back to relevant topic

LLD take stances now stop coasting

in a lovely way

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:11 am

i'm done playing. sorry eddie.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:12 am

we aren't voting you out of fear. i have a lot of feelings about you, and fear is not one of them.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:13 am

do you agree with cheeky love bee mastina yume all lock town?

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:13 am

In post 2479, Sudowoodo wrote:
In post 2474, MOMOMEN wrote:i'm done playing. sorry eddie.
Am I town now?
Am I a crybaby that's complaining about being FoS'ed by someone who is awful at the game or a wolf AtEing?

No, you aren't.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:21 am

In post 2490, beeboy wrote:But ur town for your other shit.

stop just saying this

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:23 am

In post 2494, Sudowoodo wrote:Like see
we have KTS and Eddie can basically trying to make everything I do out as scummy, they've scumread me from page 1, like what am I supposed to do with that?
Like they've basically made everything I say be scummy as fuck there's no talking there, nothing I can do will ever get people to TR me, so like, what am I supposed to do?

Quote one time where I've done that. I have not scumread you since page 1 and neither has KTS. Also, as a side note KTS didn't know you had a good wolf game so it couldn't have even been paranoia.

This isn't town. I'm not unvoting this slot for the rest of the game though, that you got right, because you literally made my hydra mate quit mafiascum.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:24 am

K I'm done here. Bye.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 7:26 am

In post 2502, beeboy wrote:So is everyone having fun?

Actually, ya LOL

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:03 am

From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.

sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read

a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.

Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:54 am

No Cheeky. Those are both antitown roles but not any more likely to be one alignment. Mason Cop on the other hand is more likely scum.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:54 am

Actually uh

tbh

i missed Mara's claim before you just broughti tu p LOL thank you mobile skimming

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:55 am

In post 2554, Wisdom wrote:unofficial VC

Sudowoodo [5] - Lovebird, MOMOMEN, Sudowoodo, Wisdom, RedFlavor
Wisdom [4] - NicoRobin, mastina, Momrangal, MariaR
RedFlavor [2] - Lady LambdaDelta, beeboy
Lady LambdaDelta [1] - Kokichi Oma
Kokichi Oma [1] - CheekyTeeky

Sudo will obv go back to voting me so we need 3 votes here
Im assuming Cheeky wont vote Sudo
The rest of you who arent voting them, are you going to? Or should I vote Red?

Mastina and Nico, come hammer please.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:58 am

The problem with a town mason cop is that it doesn't work in this setup. You have 4 conf town claims, plus a person who can find them secretly so town could know about them and not scum, and then on top of that said person and everyone else have messages so they can cross communicate. A PT cop would've been a better fake claim. Mara is very likely scum.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 8:59 am

I'm going Wisdom or Mara tomorrow ya. If Sudo is scum, not the former. Otherwise still probably the latter but less certain.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 9:21 am

In post 2578, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2573, MOMOMEN wrote:The problem with a town mason cop is that it doesn't work in this setup. You have 4 conf town claims, plus a person who can find them secretly so town could know about them and not scum, and then on top of that said person and everyone else have messages so they can cross communicate.
didnt you just describe how it
does
work?

thst amount of town power is too ridiculous.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 9:22 am

In post 2576, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm so mad at you eddie.

why

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 11:32 am

I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 2:31 pm

wisdom dont uou fucking dare replace I need you to lunch sudo

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 2:32 pm

In post 2685, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ugh.

Fine VOTE: Maria

I think Koki is scum and my sureness is killing me.

so do I. his read on you is bad becusse you're blatantly game throwing town not xcum.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 2:49 pm

what a shocker, you found a reason to reverse and vote me. when mod answers yea I'm sure you'll find a reason to keep your vote here too.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 3:13 pm

In post 2703, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2700, Cheetory6 wrote:pagetop!
Ok let's get the day over with this is just turning into a nightmare. Idc anymore so if this flips town I suggest you all quicklynch Eddie because he's way better than this.

VOTE: Sudo

remember when I said this 10pages ago and you called me scummy?

MOMOMEN · Wed May 09, 2018 3:16 pm

VOTE: Kokichi

I'm prodging til theres a lunch bye

MOMOMEN · Thu May 10, 2018 4:23 am

hes gamethrowing town so me voting who he wants after incessant whining is a scum claim

MOMOMEN · Thu May 10, 2018 10:57 am

you have no idea how little I think of you right now

MOMOMEN · Thu May 10, 2018 11:20 am

Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

In post 2059, MOMOMEN wrote:also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

In post 2131, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

In post 2250, MOMOMEN wrote:Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

In post 2334, MOMOMEN wrote:the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

In post 104, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudowoodo

In post 113, MOMOMEN wrote:Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

In post 438, MOMOMEN wrote:nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

In post 989, MOMOMEN wrote:UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

In post 1061, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

In post 1086, MOMOMEN wrote:Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

In post 1166, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: wisdom

In post 1223, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 1221, Sudowoodo wrote:Ok YOLOKILL
that was fun.

In post 1222, beeboy wrote:inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.
lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

In post 1224, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

In post 1243, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: wisdom

In post 1356, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

In post 1392, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 1388, Momrangal wrote:You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho
I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

In post 1738, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: sudo

In post 2053, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

In post 2155, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudo

I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because

we

sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?

Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

In post 2599, MOMOMEN wrote:I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

In post 2713, Cheetory6 wrote:
Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

In post 2534, MOMOMEN wrote:From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.
sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read

a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.
Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?

It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.

Except

it doesn't

. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.

Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

MOMOMEN · Thu May 10, 2018 11:49 am

no. I am saying it's me with two people that would eventually be proven to not be masons and horrible associations.

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 4:05 am

In post 2859, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 2850, Kokichi Oma wrote:
@mod is this game considered bastard. Also would you consider scum masons bastard
The game is not bastard, but I cannot confirm or deny the inner mechanics of any roles that may or may not exist in the game thread.
If a player has a question that pertains to their role they may ask about it privately and I will answer as best I can.

you should be able to answer whether or not the role "mason" being scum aligned would be bastard my guy

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 4:06 am

the answer is yes, by the way

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 4:07 am

In post 2845, beeboy wrote:
In post 2811, OnTheMark wrote:Anyone faking masons has a prod dodge
(48 hours)

(expired on 2018-05-12 21:50:21)

To rescind without it factoring heavily into my reads.

Anyone rescinding after that point is a scum claim.
I agree with pine that I didn't overly like this post.
I am not sure if it's scummy and I don't agree with Pine's reasoning but like the post is bad.

I just can't decide if it's wolfy or not.

I don't think the post is really AI, I agree with the sentiment. You might think you're being pro town by softclaiming around but you're not.

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 4:08 am

In post 2865, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2853, Pine wrote:Scum Masons are not a thing

Mom's masoncop is semiprovable, which makes the Masons semiprovable

VOTE: OntheMark

This is the best choice for today
No shit. Hence why I am letting momrangal prove it and I will ensure true results.

Pedit wtf? masons is just people of same alignment.

And does not counter my point that scum claiming masons with each other is a losing play.

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 10:37 am

VOTE: onthemark

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 12:39 pm

i think it was cheeky but idrc who, someone said mara was playing their town game

that's bullshit

mara is a player good at faking their town game as scum and she's very self aware

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 12:40 pm

VOTE: Beeboy

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 12:40 pm

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 12:41 pm

In post 3022, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 3018, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3016, NicoRobin wrote:I just said I can confirm both of us as town come tomorrow, so your words hold no water. Either you have to nightkill one of us to stop it from happening, in which case we'd still be confirmed, or I reveal it come tomorrow. Either way, by this time tomorrow, we'd be confirmed, so it's a lose-lose situation for your team. Nice try.
You can’t lol

You seriously can’t

Because you’re scum banking on people not assuming scum masons are a thing.

Otherwise you’d push the other pair

It is a 100% fact there cannot be 4 town masons this game

Yet you push me instead of the other pair

I don’t have time to read your plan I just know it’s flawed
Meet Mini 1936, a game with four active confirmables + one semi-confirmable. Again, nice try.

TBF it makes sense a Yume themed game would have a fuck ton of town power to balance it out

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 1:25 pm

I want a reply or acknowledgment Cheeky. I think that's fair.

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 1:26 pm

Hey newsflash Bee / Maria / Kokichi / others

everyone isn't town

you can't keep bitching about every wagon

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 1:31 pm

I don't think Yume's retarded enough to fake claim masons here.

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 1:40 pm

In post 3053, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3052, MOMOMEN wrote:I don't think Yume's retarded enough to fake claim masons here.
Please no r word use in thread

ok

-

but yea yall keep shooting down every wagon and its just like no scum is somewhere lol

unless yume is worse than i've ever thought (and i've policy vigged her lol) then she's not faking with mastina rn

so my townbloc is correct

we just need a lynch im gonna NM the wagon that htis L-1 I just want to move on

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 1:49 pm

EVeryone agrees nico is town, so for this scumastina narrative being pushed nico would need to be gambitting.

Also, no it doesn't considering it results in no net less because I'm loud as she can and did confirm, so again, I can only be scum with mastina who can only be scum with nico and this is an awful push from you so fuck it

VOTE: OntheMark

you're a logical player so you don't get away with awful logic

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 2:14 pm

i wouldn't brag about getting mislynched if i were you

i voted you before this too

name ONE PERSON who thinks nico is scum aside yourself

MOMOMEN · Fri May 11, 2018 2:46 pm

thats l1 lol

MOMOMEN · Sat May 12, 2018 2:53 am

cause it's a waste lol

MOMOMEN · Sat May 12, 2018 3:10 am

math doesnt xcum claim in twilight, it's not a player it would work on. it's irrelevant cause hes probscum here and someone should hammer cause we need day end.

MOMOMEN · Sat May 12, 2018 5:38 am

cool. self hammer?

MOMOMEN · Sat May 12, 2018 6:01 pm

MOMOMEN · Sat May 12, 2018 6:02 pm

no resistance? 50 people have bitched for the day to end and you've been sitting at l-1 or 2 without intent or a hammer for ages in a game with not mafia. also, people are definitely "resisting" your lynch, koki / maria / bee / etc. goodtry tho.

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 1:10 am

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 3:26 am

oh look another page of bullshit NAI stuff

math, yume didn't mean to offend you. i had issues with your pronouns for a bit too because it switched from he to they or whatever and i wasnt sure what to call you. if you really want to blacklsit yume there's much better reasons to.

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 3:27 am

In post 3129, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3120, CheekyTeeky wrote:I thought it was mathdino
No.

I fucking said I was Mathblade in my intro were people misgendered me again

Holy fuck.

It’s like people saw what a cluster fuck I was when I was scum and forced to be dysphoric and now that is their damn default to try to throw me off my game.

Well I am town and scum if that is your strategy have some fucking honor and dignity and don’t.

an seriously, that's a low blow to accuse someone of strategically misgendering a townie to tilt and mislynch them. lol. yume is not a conniving mastermind capable of such dastardly deeds.

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 4:39 am

i don't even know why this is a discussion. yume, call him / them by his / their pronoun, stop being a prick.

math, stop harping about QUEEN MASTINA. in a mason chat yume wouldn't post "hey mastina, what pronoun is this user!"

jesus christ can yall just act like adults and stop whining about irrelevant things like pronouns and how you're the worst person ever and how eddie is so shitty and how this game is so bad and how trump is the devil's incarnate and whatever other bullshit people whine about

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 5:13 am

We aren't policy lynching a mason Math.

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 5:13 am

In post 3149, NicoRobin wrote:Just because a cop resolves this isn't the answer to the question of why you outright refuse to vote your scumread.

jesus christ, shut up

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 5:19 am

In post 3154, beeboy wrote:Why is letting the scum mason cop figure out that me and lovebird ade the real masons is somehow a good solution to our issues in thread.

i mean

you're gambitting

but back to lynching mark and then mara or pine and then whoever else

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 5:31 am

In post 3162, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 3151, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 3149, NicoRobin wrote:Just because a cop resolves this isn't the answer to the question of why you outright refuse to vote your scumread.
jesus christ, shut up
Could you please explain why he is not voting mastina despite scumreading her then? Cos he clearly has no intention of answering in a way I can understand.....

you don't lynch a mason claim d1. also, he's scum, but that's irrelevant.

MOMOMEN · Sun May 13, 2018 5:32 am

In post 3163, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3159, beeboy wrote:I just wanna lynch the scum mason cop it isnt a lot to ask for.
Not happening because momrangel is town.

They will get their check and tomorrow will demonstrate one of the mason pair claims is full of shit.

and why praytell in your lalaland are you assuming he will target the fake pair of masons since one of them is most certainly fake? its a 50/50 in the BEST case.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 3:10 am

Wow, notice how shit and apathetic this game has got? Its almost like lynching someone on page 70 when I said would have been better!

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 7:06 am

In post 3194, OnTheMark wrote:6) momomen is complaining about apathy when it’s Mother’s Day it’s bound to be slow and other factors which do not need rehashing were contributing. Momomen is trying to control the narrative that the apathy is scum driven but the game was shit before I hopped in

The game was shit before you joined. Its been shit since about page 80... which is what I said. Its been apathetic for far longer than mother's day too, good try. I do laugh at you peddling a 9:4 game while ALSO saying that 4 masons is impossible though.

7) With mastina and momomen linked by mastina’s claim she is going to make momomen ninja despite the mason partner this implies they are the same alignment. Thus mastina Nico monomen.

I mean, Mastina can confirm I'm Loud, so sure. Did you have a better suggestion for her to target? Because she can still change it, and I posted in the thread about it and not a single person objected. Also, good luck shipping me as a team with a pair of masons, there was much better options for you to take here but sure your scum game is brilliant. Instead, you're peddling a scum team involving a person every single other player townreads and their mason partner, and a global townread bar Cheeky. n1.

1) 5 confirmed towns is unwinnable for scum.
2) 4 masons and a mason cop would be 5 unwinnable towns

And since when is a mason cop confirmed town? That claim is more likely to come from scum...

3) mastina claimed mason and neg utility power role (granting ninja if memory serves) and is giving it to momomen and not her mason partner. Nico should be mastina’s top townread as masons.

Because it gels with my role. And this has been in the thread. And nobody has or is objecting.

4) My role while neg utilty seems to directly counter what Mastina is doing.

Your neg utility role counters her neg utility role... you would have had a MUCH better time trying to ship those roles as town synergy. Lol.

5) Not Mafia and Pine has weird reactions from what I am used to. I voted Not Mafia as a reaction and Pine called it self preservation despite the fact I counted everyone of his meta points. Not mafia’s reaction seemed genuine so is probably town. Was more concerned that Not Mafia was buddying at first.

So you voted Not Mafia because he is probably town?..

If momrangal scum and lies we get three scum.

...no?

If Momrangal scum and truthtells we get two scum.

I mean, sure.

If Momrangal is town and truthtells we get two scum.[/quote
I mean, sure.

It feels like scum on their last gasp.

Nico and I are probably the most widely townread players in the game, but sure, we are on our last gasps as a genius scum team who couldn't outplay the blade.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 7:06 am

can someone hammer blade now? there's a reason his town game is shit and his scum game is p good.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 10:28 am

In post 3201, OnTheMark wrote:Except Wisdom and myself who object repeatedly. What did you claim? Can’t find it[/i]

Read the first 5 pages lol. And Wisdom never objected, and he hard tr'd me too if you wanna cite wisdom. Also, a role you can't target your mason partner with makes sense if its a compulsive neg util. lol.

In post 3201, OnTheMark wrote:Yes. If we mislynch a mason tomorrow momrangel confirms as scum and the other pair as scum. FYI if you’re insistent on checking the pair Momrangal check lovebird. Beeboy claimed mason godfather. I would much rather you check Mastina

Look, no point hiding this anymore. We used our messages to communicate. Mastina messaged me a claim earlyish in the day (after the mason stuff was in thread a bit, before it was popular). I messaged back for her to confirm I was loud (after I had the mod confirm that her action would not be affected by loud, to prove I'm not a ninja), which she's done in thread. I gave her a phrase to give to Yume and Yume did it, proving they had day chat. I gave some very harsh words about Yume if its a gambit, and if yume's gambitting she's hard blacklisted (

if you haven't redacted it by the end of day 1

). like, I have no words for play that bad and I've played with some pretty damn bad players. I don't think Yume is that dumb though and I do believe her claim, so they're masons or scum partners. IF they're scum partners, sure, but that'll come out eventually like I told you and like you shoudl really know as a mathematical player, and otherwise they're just both town.

I think Bee and Love are gambitting, so yes, if we leave Mara and you alive I would rather he target Love. However, I hard townread both of them so I don't really care. At this point we're gonna mass claim day 2 or day 3. At that point, if 4 mason claims are still alive and town has other power, yes, we look twice at them. I think you and Pine still contains a scum, but looking back fresher I kind of see Ali slot town and I still thought Wisdom was solid although PoE sketch so idfk. Mara is known as someone who can fake her town meta well so idk why people are confidently TRing there, so honestly that's my second pick for a lynch after you/pine. Then there's your NM read which is just daft, and its a scummy slot. If we are lynching outside of everything, fucking fine, this day needs to end.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 10:29 am

In post 3228, CheekyTeeky wrote:I think OtM is townie af. Momo using appeal to popularity is kinda reinforcing the fact her reads could be onto something. The momo/mastina interaction also pinged me and when I brought it up Eddie AtEd me. Like I said, he's way better than this. Were not lynching Eddie because of his flip - we need him mechanically cleared. Mastina not feeling well means we should probably have sympathy and lynch NICO today as her role has less town utility than Pines.

I spent an hour writing that post and you address it with this? Honestly fuck off dude. I know you're town because your tone here is not your scum game, but I don't appreciate how you're playing this at all. At all. AtE, AtA, whatever. We aren't fucking lynching a mason you dumb mother fucker. Way better than this? I sorted 5 townies as town and am shouting it and you're trying your hardest to gamethrow. Actually I really do hope you're scum because then this would be good play but I just don't see it and due to how moronic all of your pushes I did try really hard to see it. Call that a compliment if you are scum.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 10:34 am

WHAT ARGUMENTS

I WROTE A LONG POST ADDRESSING ENVNERYTHING YOU SAID AND YOU FUCKING IGNORED IT

FUCK OFF YOU MASIVE FUCKING BUMBLE BEE ASS SNIFFER

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 10:34 am

Spoiler: Eddie quotes a lot of things

In post 2785, MOMOMEN wrote:Honestly I wasn't going to bother but I appreciate 2784, so I'll give it a go.

You spend all D1 derp tunneling Sudo

In post 2059, MOMOMEN wrote:also, this isn't how cheeky played scum with me at all. they were apologetic and almost scum claimed to me because they felt bad. its a completely different vibe from here.

VOTE: Momrangal

I think Wis could easily be scum here (still in my PoE etc etc) but on principal I don't want to vote him rn FTR this vote was almost LLD and could have stayed on Wis too.

In post 2131, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudo

lets just lynch this wolf

In post 2250, MOMOMEN wrote:Fine.

VOTE: ...MOMRANGAL

In post 2334, MOMOMEN wrote:the thing with sudo is that they're trying to project a town image without actually solving. a lot of what they say is meaningless statements meshed together to look like solving, but nothing ever goes below surface level. i think that's my biggest thing with sudo. when i played with town alisae in the hydra mash, they weren't forcing interactions with people and weren't actively attempting to make themselves highly townread. it was a byproduct of active solving and good posts at good time while alisae didn't care about what image he was projecting.

this is on top of appeasement, pocketting, and a lack of any sort of mindmelds between our slots in the past game day. please vote with me.

VOTE: Sudo

In post 104, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudowoodo

In post 113, MOMOMEN wrote:Please sheep me for the sake of sheeping me. Thank you for your cooperation.

VOTE: Sudowoodo

In post 438, MOMOMEN wrote:nvm im informed sudowoodo claimed cop lol

VOTE: MariaR

In post 989, MOMOMEN wrote:UNVOTE:

I might need to call in the cavalry. Be back after work.

In post 1061, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

In post 1086, MOMOMEN wrote:Because I have Elli's tell on Mastina. Or a n0 inno. Or I'm reaction testing. Doesn't matter right now.

VOTE: Kokichi

Maria, stop.

In post 1166, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: wisdom

In post 1223, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 1221, Sudowoodo wrote:Ok YOLOKILL
that was fun.

In post 1222, beeboy wrote:inb4 KTS is obvious town but only in a neighborhood I don't have access to.
lol, the sod and eod were so killer it was hard to do anything else but obv!town in that neighborhood.

also, gonna park right here quick while i organize my thoughts along with my read. VOTE: MariaR

In post 1224, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: beeboy

-eddie

In post 1243, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: wisdom

In post 1356, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Momrangel

this is wolf one hundred percent of the time. i’ll message Eddie about it, but i’m confident in this read. my track record d1 as villa is prett good, so just go ahead and sheep me instead of being ridiculous.

In post 1392, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 1388, Momrangal wrote:You're not wrong about laying low. Not scum tho
I see.

VOTE: MariaR
let’s talk

@Mom where you at in reads?

In post 1738, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: sudo

In post 2053, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Wis

I feel bad if he's town cause he honestly sounds like the most sane person here but might as well see where this goes

In post 2155, MOMOMEN wrote:VOTE: Sudo
I don't think this fits any definition of tunnelling. And our ISO has over 300 posts, you can go use ctrl F but I would bet less than 50 are about Sudo. They're in the PoE because
we
sorted a town bloc of 5 people that almost every player agrees with.

the moment I give in and say "fine, lynch sudo but if this flips town autolynch Eddie" you unvote?
Well, first of all, this is irrelevant because I and many others were planning on doing Wis on a Sudo townflip and one random dumb (sorry) town opinion doesn't interfere with that, its pretty damn likely to be TvS. The other option was/is MariaR, but that's a different rabbit hole. HOWEVER; lets ignore all that. Did you not think of another possible factor? Any thing that could cause my vote to change besides one person who's been pushing me half the day and shading a fuck ton saying lynch me tomorrow? Hmm. Lets check.

In post 2599, MOMOMEN wrote:I'm not against the concept of what you're saying but sudo made my partner quit the site my vote isnt leaving that slot for the game

In post 2713, Cheetory6 wrote:
Pine replaces Sudowoodo.

And by the way, our thought processes are out in the air from the get go and there was never any tunnelling involved whatsoever.

In post 2534, MOMOMEN wrote:From discord, timestamps removed etc. any line without me: in front is by kts.
sunday
me: wya in ali game?
time to read up
sudo is a wolf
thats a good look for wisdom
like i dont see sudo blatantly lying and being generally antitown as their villa range lmao

me: are u caught up now?
i think if sudo is a villa wisdom is a wolf tho
no i read recent 2 pages
im going all the way back noe
ive got like 5+ pages to read

a week ago:
we had hidden abilities
but the role itself was antimeta
it was swag i dunked on every1
pressure sudo for me?

friday:
mom softed a good pr
if they aren’t powerful upon claim kill the,
beeboy might be a wolf with sudo
or just a wolf in general
actuslly the whole interaction was weird. if sudo is a wolf, beeboy is hella town
there’s lots of wolves hopping on mastina and karia
or maybe not so much on mastina. <redacted>
sudo, beeboy contains a wolf like almost certainly. I still don’t like mom, but I think I picked up on them being a strong power. mastina I still have to reread, but kokichi might just be a wolf who sucks
Redflavor isn’t too far from any of his ranges, and lld seems pretty townie. Lovebird and nico are my clears
my clear on love is flimsy, admittedly, but nico is town
wisdom I miss waffling leaning town anyway
Wisdom, Red, Beeboy, Sudo, Mastina, Kukichi
That looks pretty good tic me

friday: me: <redacted>
me: but i need ur town reads bby
me: the STRONG NEVER GOIN BACK ONEs
me: <redacted>
ok my confident read
is
prob sudo theyre evil
they tried to pocket beeboy, and their thought process sucks
like idk why they suddenly disappeared from the public eye

i think that sudo interacted with beeboy in a very scummy way. it looked like sudo was trying to buddy beeboy and encourage him to make reads for no particular reason since she never actually commented on any of these reads. the slot hasn't done any of the analysis and thinking i usually see and expect from town, and their sort of aggressive in a way that doesn't solve the game but creates more confusion. i'm conscious that both players in that slot are good town players, and i really enjoyed playing with alisae and bear in the hydra mash. here, at least alisae is nothing like that.

sunday:
that explains so much
yume is jeanne right
or whatever the fuck her name was
lol
they can be town
im sitting at mom, sudo, +1 (meh on maria and red iirc)

monday:
i think sudo is a wolf
like
im not too confident in my play rn
but all these flashwagons and ccs being led by sudo
are so bad
me: then tunnel it ayy
me: im happy to lync h em
tunneling requires energy
im so burnt out dude
LOL

We have never once talked about Ali's wolf game. We have never done any personal attacks. We have never nitpicked their posts. They are probably genuinely angry, but this ate is NOT all real and their arguments are nonsensical. They also keep harping about how they're such an awful person when none of us have even addressed them as a person.

Here's KTS thoughts on you people. Not as an AI thing, just as a wake up call.

last week:

me: thats ms
me: just win
i guess i'm just not a good fit on ms sorry dude lol
me: its the only valid comeback
me: nobody is people are shit lmao
yeah but i like bein shit and having fun
i haven't had fun on a single ms game i've played
even dunking on scum doesnt have the same thrill
sorry that's rude i'm just not enjoyable and others aren't towards me
me: start saying stuff like this itt if you want people to treat you differently
i don't want to ate people into listening to me
i want to play mafia and work with ppl and push others
even ppl who believe someone else is town still makes bad comments towards them and shit based purely off ego
i guess it just gives me room to improve
but holy fuck man
me: so post stuff like that in the thread
me: lol
me: i cant help you with dumbasses
me: its just part of playing mafia
elijah - Last Friday at 2:06 PM
youre right ill come in and dunk
me: <redacted>
all the other sites i play on ppl usually are chill
ms is so hyper charged with emotion and asshole behavior
apart from our game ive dunked on wolves every game and ppl always talk shit until post
then they say theyre sorry and do it again
like wtf man LOL
me: they dont learn
me: mastina herself said i'm one of the best current players and then ... chooses to do her own vanity pushes and ignore me
me: and she's one of the better players here
me: its just a shit environment
me: its what happens when days are this long
me: <redacted>
yeah i get it
im gonna keep playing on vut u shuld play on mu with me sometime

today:
this ate genuinely pisses me ofd
me: i agree
i havent been mad about a game in a long time.
alsp yeah i can sign
i'm done playing on ms, dude.
these people are assholes
me: haha
me: u gotta be a bigger asshole
i'm not going to force myself to be a bad person because other's have no self controlm
like, i'm genuinely done. sorry for leaving you, and i like playing with you eddie. i hate ms.
i like to play mafia to have fun. i like catching wolves and fooling town, too, but i like doing it without dealing with children and their lack of emotional control.
<redacted>
me: <redacted>
<redacted>
i barely pay attention to that stuff. i thought their play was wolfy
alisae's wolf game was never a factor in my wolfread meta wise.
LOL
my msgs are sending in random order oops
me: <redacted>
LOL have fun dude
i don't really care anymore, i'm just not gonna make the game toxic and force myself to try to have fun.
Ali and I are friends. KTS and I are friends. I think Ali is most likely scum who is genuinely angry. Maybe Ali is town. At this point, my hydra partner is gone and we are lynching that slot today or I am going to be belligerent and unhelpful. I don't think Ali is a shit person, and like I told Keely I don't even think anything they've said would be over a line if they are scum. I think KTS and Ali are both irrationally angry. But this is very likely scum, and if its town this is not behavior we want to encourage. Ali and I will continue being friends after this game, and they will either learn to not push bullshit about me being "paranoid" of their scum game (unfounded, baseless, and not true), or they will learn that it genuinely isn't true if they're town. Doesn't overly matter. This thread is still enjoyable for me and I don't really know why but I see why people might be annoyed and RedFlavour probably requested replacement because of it. Stop being children.

What happened to all that confidence?

what confidence?
It's my best bet for scum, and still is. I've said many many times I have no confident scumreads and my vote has changed many times as seen above to match. I still think Sudo is scum, but with how Ali played they basically killed any desire I had to play. I've considered and am very close to subbing because I joined to play with KTS and Wisdom is also gone, this game is borderline unplayable at this point. The only reason I'm still here is because I despise subbing and only ever do it to avoid getting toxic, but I don't think I've said anything toxic this game and am trying not to.

sudo flips town which effectively renders the majority of your contributions today completely useless.
Except
it doesn't
. I'm the one who established Mastina and Yume as town. I'm the one who established Love and Bee as town. Despite how much you're making me doubt myself, I'm the one who established you're town. Yes, not entirely me, but I've been the one propelling that and allowing town to work together. My contributions are definitely nothing useless today if Sudo flips town, and I still don't think they do but I've also lost a lot of my little confidence looking back.

If Eddie is scum I see a connection to Mastina and it would explain why we're all completely fucked right now.
Well then the team is myself, Mastina, and Yume. This is a team that loses the game.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 11:37 am

In post 3235, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine
@Mod replace me.

What a shit game. Looks like I overestimated peoples competency.

Pedit you're an assclown. Gfy.

jesus christ, you're the ass. i've actively tried to talk to you and you keep shutting me down and calling me scum because i'm not voting the mason you want me to.

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 11:38 am

In post 3241, beeboy wrote:
@mod I need to replace out

Sorry no time for this game, should have done this 1 week ago tbh.

and YOU

nothing really... just sad

this went from a good playerlist to a shit one real quick

MOMOMEN · Mon May 14, 2018 2:58 pm

My hydra partner got bullied out of the game honestly fuck off

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 3:15 am

In post 3249, Pine wrote:As did mine. However, no one's innocent here.

I'm aware.

and

Good. I could really use a lock town Dino rn.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 3:16 am

we could just policy NM in a shit slot at this point, since Math is so insistent on going into night with him and Mara alive. I could compromise on that.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 4:30 am

In post 3262, OnTheMark wrote:Momomen claimed some kind of message thing with Mastina (hint Momomen is scum with Mastina/Nico imho)

I claimed a lot more earlier, fuck off.

|And

EVeryone in the game got a message to send

hint: if you're "100% town" as LLD says stop being a gamethrowing dumbass

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 7:03 am

Dino, how confident are you on Red? Adding another person to the town block basically breaks the game. Also, Lovebird and Bee's replacement need to hard claim mason or not before day end because its super relevant ATP. And his replacement needs to clarify whether the godfather part was a <redacted> meme or not.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 7:08 am

In post 3310, Mathdino wrote:wait fuck that's a real wagon
UNVOTE:

how the fuck did that become a real wagon
is momrangal scum

Well

I shouted about how Lovebird and Beeboy and You and Nico and Mastina were town a lot

Alisae ragesubbed and people bought the AtE (no I don't think it was fake or AI)

Maria and Kokichi are hard townreading each other and fighting off either getting wagoned

That leaves... LLD, Mara, OTM, NM. If you're right about Red, unless the scum team is LLD / Mara / OTM then someone's wrong somewhere or one of the 3 pairs (I'm calling Kok/Maria a pair) and Pine contains scum. Nothing makes that solve bad persay but its a day 1 solve and thinking you've got all 3 scum is pretty asinine.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 7:09 am

And 3 of the 4 there became major wagons. So, lol. LLD is the only one who hasn't for whatever reason.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 8:03 am

These are partial claims I believe

Mastina and Yume claim Masons, Mastina also has a negative utility compulsive taht during d1 she has to make someone tracker and watcher proof.

I claimed flipless loud townie. Mastina targeted me with her invention because I am Loud and she confirmed with the mod that it doesn't affect Loud. I used the letter we were all gifted to prove to her I was loud. She proved her and Yume do in fact have day chat. Her action can still be changed if you have a better idea, Blade wanting to give it to Mara is hilarious.

Beeboy claimed town Godfather probably as a joke. Also claimed Masons with Lovebird, they need to stop with this dogshit softing though.

OTM claimed ... something that would ensure Mara's action succeeded. This is not Bastard so we don't need to worry about framers.

Cheeky (you) and Pine claimed odd even night invention stuff. Ali said it was protective.

LLD can only move her vote once every 48 hours.

Mara claimed mason cop

I think that's everything

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 8:04 am

In post 3346, Mathdino wrote:ITT: people scumhunt based on setup spec and people's reactions to said setup spec

when no one actually knows all the available setup information

gg

Edit: she means me but is ignoring the request to not call you or me "Math"

yes, because stupid people don't get setup spec and try to break games with it when they don't understand it themselves. such as mathblade saying this is a 9:4 while simultaneously arguing 4 masons is impossible. or such as cheeky insisting ali is conf town earlier because they are odd/even night clones!

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 9:21 am

sigh yall are really gonna make me qallpost

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:04 pm

In post 3155, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 3154, beeboy wrote:Why is letting the scum mason cop figure out that me and lovebird ade the real masons is somehow a good solution to our issues in thread.
i mean

you're gambitting

but back to lynching mark and then mara or pine and then whoever else

In post 3230, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 3201, OnTheMark wrote:Except Wisdom and myself who object repeatedly. What did you claim? Can’t find it[/i]
Read the first 5 pages lol. And Wisdom never objected, and he hard tr'd me too if you wanna cite wisdom. Also, a role you can't target your mason partner with makes sense if its a compulsive neg util. lol.

In post 3201, OnTheMark wrote:Yes. If we mislynch a mason tomorrow momrangel confirms as scum and the other pair as scum. FYI if you’re insistent on checking the pair Momrangal check lovebird. Beeboy claimed mason godfather. I would much rather you check Mastina
Look, no point hiding this anymore. We used our messages to communicate. Mastina messaged me a claim earlyish in the day (after the mason stuff was in thread a bit, before it was popular). I messaged back for her to confirm I was loud (after I had the mod confirm that her action would not be affected by loud, to prove I'm not a ninja), which she's done in thread. I gave her a phrase to give to Yume and Yume did it, proving they had day chat. I gave some very harsh words about Yume if its a gambit, and if yume's gambitting she's hard blacklisted (
if you haven't redacted it by the end of day 1
). like, I have no words for play that bad and I've played with some pretty damn bad players. I don't think Yume is that dumb though and I do believe her claim, so they're masons or scum partners. IF they're scum partners, sure, but that'll come out eventually like I told you and like you shoudl really know as a mathematical player, and otherwise they're just both town.

I think Bee and Love are gambitting, so yes, if we leave Mara and you alive I would rather he target Love. However, I hard townread both of them so I don't really care. At this point we're gonna mass claim day 2 or day 3. At that point, if 4 mason claims are still alive and town has other power, yes, we look twice at them. I think you and Pine still contains a scum, but looking back fresher I kind of see Ali slot town and I still thought Wisdom was solid although PoE sketch so idfk. Mara is known as someone who can fake her town meta well so idk why people are confidently TRing there, so honestly that's my second pick for a lynch after you/pine. Then there's your NM read which is just daft, and its a scummy slot. If we are lynching outside of everything, fucking fine, this day needs to end.

Its almost like I understand mafia or something. Nah, just dumb luck.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:07 pm

Mod, this goes without saying, but extension for the replacement spam please. Deadline reset to 96 hours from the last replace in would be my suggestion because there's been quite a few, but adding 48 hours works too IG.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:08 pm

In post 3446, Mathdino wrote:momomen i do not believe at all that lovebird is playing her towngame

has your opinion changed at all since you made 3220

It was early game and then the mason claim on top of them being a pretty townie slot was enough.

hmm new reads list time

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:17 pm

{Eddie, Mastina, Yume, Dinkle} - I do find it funny how Blade was giving me so much shit though.
{NM} - extension of the dinkle
{Nahdia} - Pending, and bee flaking is scum indicative, but still townie overall

I don't feel good about anyone else town. We are left with {Mara, OTM, Maria, Love, LLD, Kok, Pine}

I am most inclined to do Mara or OTM today. I could do Pine over the latter. Or Love if Math is confident there, I've given up n reading that player shitty 1 liner playstyle is so beneficial to scumgames its unreal but Love has good enough reads as town that I can't hate them. Kok, Maria, and LLD are lower priorities but a wagon on them wouldn't be the worst thing. Tbh, Ali's rep out is slightly town indicative if you wanna angleshoot. Someone convince me why someone in here is town please and help break teh PoE.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:18 pm

In post 3454, Mathdino wrote:tfw beeboy fucking RUINS the game and then replaces out when things get rough as an indirect result of his actions

nice fucking gambit everyone

I mean, it was an obvious gambit and I said it about 20 times and nothing was ruined by it until Scum!Blade (or, yes, town!Blade) came in and started tunnelling the 4 mason shit when 4 masons wasn't impossible anyways.

Also, the mason claim retraction just makes Mara scum so I think that's my #1 lynch.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:22 pm

In post 3460, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3455, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3438, Mathdino wrote:we lynch lovebird right now

nahdia, please describe your ENTIRE relation to lovebird setup-wise

did your predecessor plan this out via PT or messages or some shit?

Edit: I THOUGHT YOU FUCKING SAID BEEBOY WAS TOWN LURKING
I have no connection to Lovebird whatsoever, far as I can tell. Nor have I received any message from them.

I will not answer the second question unless I'm given a very good reason why I'm role claiming. I understand my predecessor did some confusing stuff but that doesn't make my slot scum.
My entire basis for scumreadinf Mastina and Nico was that there was another set of masons and that my role was a CC to Mastina.

You not being masons means that your slots (both loverbird and Beeboy) intentionally conspired to pit me against Mastina and Nico after seeing my softs.

So you bet your ass that if you townread loverbird you will role claim here and now. Because it looks like loverbird and you are both scum who tried to manipulate me into pushing Mastina and Nico because of role similarity

and then I see another nonsensical post from mathblade

Lovebird and Beeboy haven't even posted game related shit since you repped in. They are not intentionally conspiring against you. Go back to your flat earth pages.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 12:37 pm

Am I still scum sir blade?

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:08 pm

In post 3489, OnTheMark wrote:Honestly we can just mislynch me and be done with it

I kinda lack the desire to reread this because it means I have to reread a ton of toxicity when I barely am trying to avoid crying in a ball of tears at work

I'm gonna OOG this because I know its genuine

Spoiler:

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:09 pm

In post 3506, mastina wrote:
In post 3337, MariaR wrote:I'm gonna take a break for 24 hours from this thread and see if I want to keep going or not
Okay.

Scratch the not alignment indicative thing I said earlier.

This IS indicative.

This is a scum "replace"-out.

This never comes from town.

Never.

Maria is a good lynch at this point, but I wouldn't go there. I've said similar as town.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:10 pm

In post 3477, mastina wrote:
In post 3468, mastina wrote:COMPLETE AND TOTAL UNKNOWNS: MariaR, Kokichi Oma
MIGHT I POINT OUT.
THESE TWO HAVE BEEN TWO OF THE MOST CONSISTENT SCUMSPECTS IN THE ENTIRE GAME RIGHT BEHIND WISDOM/MATHBLADE.

AND YET IN SPITE OF THAT.

THEY ARE THE TWO PLAYERS WHO WE KNOW THE LEAST ABOUT.

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.

Scum are almost always last to claim. Like, not literally, but there's definitely a big trend. It isn't a coincidence.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:11 pm

In post 3487, Mathdino wrote:momomen have you ISO'd lovebird yet

ISOing is busywork I don't have time for. I've given up trying to read them. If you're confident they're scum, your slot is almost IC level town, we can lynch there.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:12 pm

In post 3499, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3495, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3492, Mathdino wrote:mathblade, now is the time to actually go and explain the mariaR read
if anyone in this game can confidently meta her then imma need that pretty soonish

without locking her out of the lynchpool, i'm thinkin
Lovebird --> MariaR --> Kokichi --> OTM --> Nahdia --> [REDACTED]
I am thinking Lovebird —> Nahdia is Lovebird is red

I agree with that if Lovebird is town though.
I don't agree with this assessment.

If lovebird AND Nahdia are scum, I don't think they stop playing the gambit TODAY before you get lynched Mark.

They just keep pretending.

That being said, it's possible Beeboy was scum and Nahdia didn't feel she could do the gambibt anymore since she doesn't know lovebird as well, so she abandoned it and now the pressure is on lovebird?

To be fair, Nahdia might not have known.

But, yes. I don't think they're both scum. Because I think Nahdia is town. This is independant of the claim.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:13 pm

In post 3501, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That said, I felt Lovebird was scum early and people shut me down due to the mason claims, so I'll lynch that.

Even though I just want to lynch Mathdino so he can be the fuck out of this game.

I'm not going to lecture you because you're experienced, but you know we can't policy an IC level townie who's competent even if you find him extremely annoying.

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:14 pm

In post 3504, mastina wrote:(Also holy shit I didn't realize a game I modded was that long, totally forgot about that.)

easy peasy scum win squeazzy

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:15 pm

In post 3504, mastina wrote:I link that not to say it's something we should strive for. But as a warning of what we're IN for. We've been through hell already but we've got a whole fucking lot more as far as hell is concerned.

Its almost like

we should have just hammered someone on page 70

I won't harp about this again

but in the future stop being so uptight about using time and omg we have weeks left lets ignore the game well get it later, ms

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:16 pm

In post 3511, mastina wrote:Also, this is Eddie Cane's towngame though I got the feeling you were more asking about scumreads.

Its so cute you think you can read me though. <3 mastin

MOMOMEN · Tue May 15, 2018 1:17 pm

Okay,

LLD and Mathdinkle

please save it for post game

this thread is cluttered as fuck as it is

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 am

In post 3545, Lovebird wrote:Idk why anyone thinks I tell beeboy to with me claim mason as scum there, makes totally no sense. Wasn't scumread anyways

Nobody thinks you did. Scum cftww?

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 6:58 am

In post 3548, Lovebird wrote:Urghhh beeboy claims masons with me and then replaces out

You had about 80 pages to call him out including multiple prompts from me. Goodtry

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 6:58 am

In post 3555, Lovebird wrote:I think beeboy really does have a secret tell on me so it made sense

No, he doesn't.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 6:59 am

In post 3575, Lovebird wrote:
In post 3572, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3570, Lovebird wrote:What do you think scenario is, that I'm scum with beeboy? Doesn't make sense
Yes and it does.
Why does Nadia retract claim if we're scum

Why does bee claim in first place if we're scum?

Stop asking shit wifom qs

stop asking shit wifom qs

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 6:59 am

In post 3577, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3575, Lovebird wrote:
In post 3572, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3570, Lovebird wrote:What do you think scenario is, that I'm scum with beeboy? Doesn't make sense
Yes and it does.
Why does Nadia retract claim if we're scum

Why does bee claim in first place if we're scum?
Because Nahdia would realize we would be copping you not the godfather as beeboy claimed.

Bee claims for the credit and to get Wisdom and Mastina to work against each other. Which was working.

And no, they probably aren't scum partners.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:00 am

In post 3579, Momrangal wrote:Also, my role is now completrly useless Dino says and does nothing but actually confirm that Nico/mastina are now masons so like... I don't understand why that doubt is still there

lol

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:00 am

In post 3581, Nahdia wrote:So in absence of doing a full comprehensive read, I've been jumping around to random bits and pieces of the game to see if I get any reads. I wouldn't say anything is set in stone right now but this is where I'm at currently:

Towny: mastina, Nico, MathDino, Pine
Not Sure: MOMOMEN
Scummy: LLD, Wisdom

Everyone else (MariaR, Kokichi, and Not_Mafia) I've seen really little of in my hopping around so I'm not sure. I know there's a good amount of focus on the former two atm. From what I've gathered the push on them is partially a function of this lack of activity. Is that the bulk of it?

bleh

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:01 am

In post 3583, Mathdino wrote:UNVOTE:

why did no one tell me that beeboy has an elli-tell on lovebird

i don't know why i need to repeat this every game, but no, x (beeboy) does not have a god damn elli tell

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:03 am

In post 3589, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3588, Mathdino wrote:I had an elli-tell on Lovebird before I outed it to her. It's entirely a thing.

If beeboy is town, do you agree that Lovebird is town?
No.

I don’t believe in elli tell.

The elli tell in my experience is just who elli likes or who does what elli expects. The “tell” has almost never read me right and people take pride in fooling machines. So on principle no.

Unless it’s 100% right it’s not a tell.

and, again, NO. that isn't true at all, none of this paragraph is. a tell does not need to be 100% right that's why its a TELL not a NOTHING BECAUSE NOTHING IS 100% RIGHT

that is not how elli reads

that is not true either

In post 3588, Mathdino wrote:I had an elli-tell on Lovebird before I outed it to her. It's entirely a thing.

If beeboy is town, do you agree that Lovebird is town?

no it isn't buddy

In post 3585, Mathdino wrote:Town by extension of beeboy: Lovebird

incorrect

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:08 am

In post 3600, Mathdino wrote:- If Lovebird flips scum, then that makes beeboy scum, I agree. Contrapositive of beeboy-town --> Lovebird town.

still n/o

In post 3598, OnTheMark wrote:Ellibereth sucks at reading me and is swingy as fuck. Sometimes he is right sometimes not even with his program.

this person sucks at reading me therefore they suck at mafia ?

i know exactly why he and pretty much everyone have trouble reading you, and while you do have a good scum game its not because of that. you can ask if you want, fair warning you might not like the answer. this is irrelevant.

In post 3598, OnTheMark wrote:Elli’s methods are his program lol.

...no....

In post 3595, Mathdino wrote:I'd policy lynch beeboy if I could

no, you wouldn't

In post 3595, Mathdino wrote:It means beeboy, using Elli's methods, found something that can sort Lovebird's alignment 100% of the time.

no

In post 3592, OnTheMark wrote:I refuse to bow down to some machine because I program them for a living. If Mafiascum allowed betting I would bet you something I could make it think I was scum when I am not. Just because I don’t agree doesn’t mean I am “preventing PoE”. And it doesn’t mean I am “stopping you from solving the game”

you have no idea how dumb you and dino sound rn

In post 3600, Mathdino wrote:- Go read the Paragon thread. I don't think you understand how Elli gets his tells. The program isn't ACTUALLY a neural net that spits out alignments, that's a meme (one that I will continue propagating ngl).

first sensical thing

In post 3600, Mathdino wrote:- Elli being bad at reading some players doesn't mean that meta-tells don't work. Elli doesn't have any tells on RC, or a lot of the scum players that can manipulate their meta. Other players ARE able to meta-read RC. beeboy happens to be able to meta-read Lovebird, and he has, in his ISO, backed up that claim.

also a fine point

and i'm bored of reading people spew dumbassery about elli

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:12 am

In post 3623, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3621, MariaR wrote:I'm mostly shocked we're not lynching conf scum mech wise. Like the fact Mastina and Dino don't have a hard on for lynching mon is shocking
Lol Momrangal is not conf scum mechwise. Otherwise anyone with a scummy sounding role is conf scum. That’s just bad.

Conf scum is lovebird and Nahdia for fakeclaiming.

shut upppp

In post 3610, Pine wrote:Just ignore OTM

We're regaining functionality.

You, me, LLD, Lovebird, probably Nahdia, Mastina if she can focus. That's the Townbloc that's going to turn this shitshow around.

It starts with Kokichi and Maria.

Hell, I'll even fall in line with you because I think both Kokichi and Maria are scum.

VOTE: Maria

Getting dragged into OTM's petulance just perpetuates the problem. Be pro-Town

this might be the most shit townbloc i've ever seen

In post 3612, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3609, Mathdino wrote:I need a majority to agree to "beeboy town implies Lovebird town". The fact that no one pointed it out to me until I found it myself is pretty shit. Lovebird can't die if Nahdia does. And honestly, I'm lowkey townreading beeboy for pulling that shit.

OTM hurts that majority. If it's clear that a large portion of the other players agree to that partial gamesolve, then yeah I'll go with Maria/Kokichi.

Edit: I see scum!LLD doing that just fine. And role is not alignment indicative. Unless her read is >95%, OTM is the best possible townflip that can happen. If Maria or Kokichi flips town, we're back in the exact same shitshow tomorrow.

Convince mastina to stop filling 80% of her catchups with "OTM IS SCUM CAPSSSS" and that'll also work for me.
Not when I fucking force Momrangal to confirm mastina is masons and not fakeclaiming too. If Momrangal lies that is suicide. And if I am alive Momrangal gets a result.

And no

That block is bullshit.

Lovebird needs to go now.

And I didn’t point it out because it’s irrelebant. It is a read.

but they're town like i've been saying for 120 pages and it just keeps getting more obvious

In post 3618, Mathdino wrote:So we're kind of at a point where because we're leaving Momrangal, mastina/Nico, and Pine/me alive, and because Eddie won't flip, and because Lovebird can't get lynched before beeboy,

Eddie also won't flip because Eddie spews town

In post 3648, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3643, MOMOMEN wrote:
In post 3545, Lovebird wrote:Idk why anyone thinks I tell beeboy to with me claim mason as scum there, makes totally no sense. Wasn't scumread anyways
Nobody thinks you did. Scum cftww?
Come push lovebird with me.

does mathdinkle still think they're scum independant of beeboy?

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:12 am

In post 3652, MariaR wrote:What's up Eddie

hey

recess just ended so back to teaching i go

MOMOMEN · Wed May 16, 2018 7:13 am

In post 3654, Mathdino wrote:Editx8: is this why the post count is too damn high?

i don't have the highest post count even

In post 3659, Mathdino wrote:eddie have you considered catching up in full and then quoting/responding to a single post

instead of going through the thread and repeating "no" at every post that basically has a repeat of the same points

if everyone played like you did, the thread would beat D1 records onsite

being told no once is not a good learning method

people learn through repetition

if every post has a repeat of the same points, have YOU (the thread) considered not rehashing the same points over and over?

MOMOMEN · Thu May 17, 2018 1:53 pm

Isn't the not mafia tell supposed to be having reasonable reads vs having shit reads?

MOMOMEN · Fri May 18, 2018 2:50 pm

math is town idioto

MOMOMEN · Sat May 19, 2018 2:47 am

VOTE: Maria
yall suck

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:16 am

okay look

this is cheeky's town game

math is also moderately town

this is a

waste

of discussion, this slot is never an eligible lynch,

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:17 am

and following that,

stop

with the stupid mason spec. they've been obviously town since page fucking 5 and they fucking vigged scum. this is ridiculous at this point.

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:18 am

In post 3788, OnTheMark wrote:You realize pushing my mislynch confirms you both as scum right?

I also see that my mislynch needs to happen.

Once I flip town, Mastina and Nico die. They are scum that killed Momrangal to hide the fact they aren’t masons. I am the counter to Mastina/Nico so they need me gone to make their checks ninja.

VOTE: OTM

I have work. Give me 24 hours for a reads list before mislynching me

why do you people keep self voting

when has that EVER worked out for you

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:19 am

In post 3787, NicoRobin wrote:VOTE: OTM

I knew it, you killed her so she couldn't reveal us as real masons, allowing you to continue to shade us with impunity.

math's possible scum for a lot of reasons and this is not really one of them

wtf

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:19 am

i haven't got to that part yet, apologies

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:20 am

In post 3819, Nahdia wrote:Christ. Can y'all stop being so overdramatic and rash? The day has barely begun, most people haven't checked in.

this lol

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:20 am

In post 3824, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3822, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 3819, Nahdia wrote:Christ. Can y'all stop being so overdramatic and rash? The day has barely begun, most people haven't checked in.
The reason I am dramatic is because you are bying into OTM's BS LIKE GULLIBLE IDIOTS, AND SHUT ME UP THE MOMENT I TRY TO FORCE HIS LYNCH BY FLIPPING MASON.

Comprende?
Has it occurred to you that you being a mason doesn't confirm anything about OTM's alignment?

also this

and the inverse of course

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:22 am

In post 3871, Mathdino wrote:wait so you gave it to mastina last night then?

i feel slightly pocketed but people said alisae played obvtown so w/e

nobody said this

its not true either

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:23 am

In post 3875, Pine wrote:Honestly, LLD's flip won't clear OTM, just make me trust her.

I'd much rather see Nahdia flip. I'm not comfortable with a slot that initiated a fake!Mason gambit.

I think Momomen might be the right choice though.

Thoughts, Dino?

In post 3876, Mathdino wrote:MOMOMEN might siteflake so i guess we'll have to see

they're currently the only slot in this game that truly understands why i'm locktown so i'm pretty nervous to throw them out right now

or just the fact i've defended town and pushed scum all game? me townreading you shouldn't be the goddamn reason you don't want to lynch me

MOMOMEN · Wed May 23, 2018 6:23 am

In post 3897, Pine wrote:And let's lock up this argument right here.

Townbloc Pine, LLD, Mathdino, Mastina. OTM and Nico are Town too, but don't get a vote until they stop being dumbasses.

In post 3898, Pine wrote:Lovebird may come too, I think.

2 days in a row with a shit townbloc

ty