Mini 2006: Scummer in this game UPick GAME OVER

[Sudowoodo]

Ok I’m sorry I’m doing this
I’m retracting my n0 on mastina
More details to come

[Sudowoodo]

Okay
At the start of the game Yume sent us mail saying she was masons with mastina
in attempt to get Cheeky to calm down, I announced a N0 Inno on mastina
Hence why that happened.

I don't have a N0 inno on mastina
that was made under the assumption that mastina was a mason.

BUT

Recent events have shown that a 2ND pair of masons has surfaced.

Hence why I am outing this information.

I think its fairly obvious who the 2nd pair are, and I really hate the fact that I'm doing things this way.

aka
mastina and Yume are not masons.

Big shocker.

[Sudowoodo]

CHEEKY I WAS LITERALLY TOLD BY YUME THAT THEY WERE MASONS WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO AT THE TIME

[Sudowoodo]

I hate this game

ya know
I would too if I was in your position
Pine was pressuring me into doing this and I would have prefered waiting a lot.

Instead we tried to get Kokichi to talk to us and well...
This happens

I'm sorry?

[Sudowoodo]

Nico = Yume

[Sudowoodo]

it doesn't
VOTE: Maria
just wanted to get that posted tbh

but Pine now FoS'es Yume!

[Sudowoodo]

okay back to the main event of wagoning wolf!Claire

[Sudowoodo]

CHEEKY I WAS LITERALLY TOLD BY YUME THAT THEY WERE MASONS WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO AT THE TIME

I assumed they were masons too, which is why I made that weird posts in 500 or 501 quoting nico saying the half read on her about her not wanting to lynch mastina wasnt scummy but I didnt like the emoticon. I figured if I townread nico and mastina too hard it would be obvious so I only chose one. Mastina is still town in my opinion

wait

I am sorry
I think I have no clue what the fuck is going on anymore

[Sudowoodo]

kokichi is scum as is maria is what's going on

I think you might be right.

That slow-played response to the blunt "are you a mason" question was hella suspicious.

Pine

[Sudowoodo]

it doesn't
VOTE: Maria
just wanted to get that posted tbh

but Pine now FoS'es Yume!

Hi. Maki is sided with the village. I've never been wrong on Maria yet unless she's SK, when I was wrong about her in that game a few games ago in the game we were all in.

I haven't been wrong about her either Kokichi

[Sudowoodo]

Um yeah about that
@Mara

Spoiler: Drumroll please

Cheetory hasn't processed the action yet me thinks

[Sudowoodo]

Also Kokichi
I was right about Claire in

that game too

except well, I got sidetracked because of badmodding

[Sudowoodo]

lowkey outing the mason thing was not very useful for the town lol

Ya know...
That may have not been the smartest play...

[Sudowoodo]

Have a fuckin growlithe burn me the fuck down

[Sudowoodo]

lowkey outing the mason thing was not very useful for the town lol

Ya know...
That may have not been the smartest play...

Is this Alisae or Pine?

Ali...
...
...

[Sudowoodo]

please don't hurt me

[Sudowoodo]

<----- To be continued

[Sudowoodo]

oh we thought the other pair were way more believable by a long long mile.

[Sudowoodo]

it wasn't even a dabate it was really just going through ISOs and figuring out which pair was more believable.
And we did actually do that.

926 is scummy btw lol

[Sudowoodo]

How is this at 20 pages already. I'm not even looking forward to reading this, but I will.

Every time I open this thread it doubles in length. Magic!

hello EDDIE CANE

[Sudowoodo]

Look I am going to sleep I think I've obvtowned myself enough so long lynch um Claire
or Kokichi
or Yume
or LLD

those contain wolves.

[Sudowoodo]

{LLD, Claire, Kokichi} is the solve btw.

If you're town that's a semi feasible solve ya

you got another thing comin
/me fingerguns

[Sudowoodo]

But she is right, we're not masons. I sent that message to them to test them. If they were really town, they would have discussed which of the 'mason' pairs were more likely, rather than jumping ship immediately upon seeing a new shiny info appears. They were looking for an opening to discredit us for quite a while, and they took it the moment it reared its head.

no bee
they're not a mason

[Sudowoodo]

Nico, why are you insisting we blew up your Mason claim?

You did that. We were interrogating Kokichi. You then flipped on yourself.

By the way, I'm calling it: Mastina was talking in the scum PT about potentially faking a Masonclaim, and Nico ran with it right out the gate when she messaged us. Mastina's behavior matches, as she looks frustrated at having to either ditch a buddy first thing or play along.

Ali and I are going back and forth as to whether MariaR or LLD is the third buddy.

[Sudowoodo]

We were told in the first half hour or so that she was a Mason. Removing that assumption with Nico's confession, yes.

[Sudowoodo]

Because you did that. It was you who first announced that we aren't masons, if I recall correctly.

I was looking for proof that you're wrong, but you're right. Alisae posted calling you on it before you admitted.

However, all you had to do was stand firm on the claim. Ali was guessing, you confirmed.

Further, care to comment on your recent assertion that you'll still flip Mason despite statements to the contrary?

[Sudowoodo]

Also, why the hell would you claim Masons with someone who (at the time) hadn't posted? That's not a Town thing to do.

Nico + Mastina = scumbuds

[Sudowoodo]

pine its yume, she doesnt ever do town things

I have no history with her. It took me forever just to figure out who Alisae was talking about in Discord.

And frankly, that's not a satisfactory explanation. Blatant scumminess should not be rewarded with an "Oh Yume you so crazy". It should be lynched.

I am wholly unconvinced. If there's a reason for Nico to have been lying, she needs to be out with it so we can move on.

I want Mastina to weigh in on this. I'd like to see her corroborate and disown the Mason plot.

[Sudowoodo]

Also, why the hell would you claim Masons with someone who (at the time) hadn't posted? That's not a Town thing to do.

Nico + Mastina = scumbuds

Because I had four votes on me at the time?

What if you had accidentally lynched me?

No one gets lynched in RVS flashwagons. Go back to the Newbie queue.

[Sudowoodo]

Explain bringing in Mastina, then.

And fuck you, I *don't* know her, this looks like scum.

Again, scummy play should not be rewarded.

[Sudowoodo]

bee just tell me who to vote already

[Sudowoodo]

significant chance of Lovebird being an alt of a very specific player (a player known for shitty scumplay and not-so-shitty townplay among other traits)

lolz

[Sudowoodo]

Wait Bee I need to sign-up to be apart of the "School of Ellibereth" how do I do that?

[Sudowoodo]

Wait Bee I need to sign-up to be apart of the "School of Ellibereth" how do I do that?

I am not sure if you can afford an incredibly luxury service like that.

I’m more surprised you can afford it

[Sudowoodo]

UNVOTE:

[Sudowoodo]

And yeah ur poor

[Sudowoodo]

Also I could play the game but I deduced that bee is town so I am just going to shitpost till he tells me he wants something dead.

[Sudowoodo]

I wonder how long it will take people to realize I am substituting content with shit posts and mafia theory.

Also I could play the game but I deduced that bee is town so I am just going to shitpost till he tells me he wants something dead.

these are considered effective gameplay and strategies

[Sudowoodo]

You know a major issue to your plan is I am overly reading the game and spamposting making it so that no one can read the game therefore making it impossible to solve

[Sudowoodo]

eddie finally let me out of the basement to post.

kts what the fuck were you doing in the basement

[Sudowoodo]

Ur signature is outdated

[Sudowoodo]

http://math.columbia.edu/~qxma10/TB.pdf

this is better signature material btw

[Sudowoodo]

I like that quote wtf.

its outdated
Ya know
Like ur avatar
Which actually isn’t oudated
Its just trash

[Sudowoodo]

Tbh I just wanted to make a post that said ur avatar was trash

[Sudowoodo]

I was posting lots in the mash...
...
...
When I was awake

[Sudowoodo]

Like me and Bear top posted until we died.

[Sudowoodo]

But u were posting more here.

by the time I woke up we died in the mash

[Sudowoodo]

VOTECOUNT 1.00

Not Voting [13]:

beeboy, CheekyTeeky, Kokichi Oma, Lady LambdaDelta, Lovebird, MariaR, mastina, MOMOMEN, Momrangal, NicoRobin, RedFlavor, Sudowoodo, Wisdom

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
You have (expired on 2018-05-16 18:00:00) to do so.

This post marks when the thread opened
We died like as soon as it hit 1pm pst I think?

[Sudowoodo]

Aka the game started an hour and 30mins later

[Sudowoodo]

/me wakes up
/me sees 6 pages
Kay

This was also my first post the whole game

[Sudowoodo]

Don't quote time stamps that's illegal wtf?

ok bee

[Sudowoodo]

Point is we died by the time I started posting in here

[Sudowoodo]

this game is very emotional, and i'd like it not to be that way. if you guys could mindmeld or butt heads civilly, that'd be awesome. it's hard enough to read through this, but it's getting harder the more people's pride begins getting hurt. i appreciate all of you, but the game's gonna turn into awful if people don't keep control over themselves. thanks, guys. : )

@Sudowoodo, i think you're town. who should i iso.

No one you should sheep beeboy B)

[Sudowoodo]

ii) CheekyTeeky - Literally obvious town
vi) Lovebird - Literally obvious town
ix) NicoRobin - Literally obvious town
xiii) MOMOMEN [Hydra of Eddie Cane & Killthestory] - Kinda town as well.

i feel like i should be doing more.


pedit: keep talking you aint fooling me

Can I be included in the literally obvious town pile
Cuz I’m literally obvious town

[Sudowoodo]

Ok YOLOKILL

[Sudowoodo]

We’re treating Bee as Elli and not ending the day until he posts reads

[Sudowoodo]

I think you have a better time asking someone like MathBlade or Gamma Emerald or others to do that
Thankfully none of those are in this game.

[Sudowoodo]

You’ve talked about your 4 locktowns already reeeeeee

[Sudowoodo]

I think you have a better time asking someone like MathBlade or Gamma Emerald or others to do that
Thankfully none of those are in this game.

200 pages by day 3 isn't even that bad.
You know the Ellibereth methods require a lot of pages
It's like you don't want to sheep me onto scum

Don’t use too many emotes Kokichi will fos you

[Sudowoodo]

I rather sleep through 1 ms day

[Sudowoodo]

Beeboy can I get a scum read?

Alisae hasn't got me 200 pages of content yet.

[Sudowoodo]

Don't make me block you.

ok Sakura Hana

[Sudowoodo]

[Sudowoodo]

I think its fairly obvious who the 2nd pair are, and I really hate the fact that I'm doing things this way.

Oh you mean Wisdom and Maria?

Yeah guess one of the reasons I've been calling those two scum?

mara + kokichi

[Sudowoodo]

I’ll do any of those things only if you consider me locktown

[Sudowoodo]

D1 in mashes are memes

[Sudowoodo]

Look am I locktown or not

[Sudowoodo]

Oh wait I should do one of those two things first.
VOTE: nl
Am I lock town now

[Sudowoodo]

I am going to stop ruining this game thread sorry guys.

pedit: your getting better

hi amrock

[Sudowoodo]

I am 99.9% sure this is going to be a hard game btw.

it actually isn’t

[Sudowoodo]

Bee you’re boring me

[Sudowoodo]

Bee just read the Redflavor ISO and tell me if thats town or not please

[Sudowoodo]

Or the game
You can read that too

[Sudowoodo]

I love this fucking avatar this is a GOAT hydra

[Sudowoodo]

Mastina lovebird is actually plotinus

[Sudowoodo]

Actually I think Lovebird is MathBlade

[Sudowoodo]

Nah Lovebird is just nancy

[Sudowoodo]

Oh wait what if Lovebird was Gamma Emerald and its the reason why he isn’t in the game.
That would make a lot of sense

[Sudowoodo]

Nonono its probably just NSG

[Sudowoodo]

Wait
Lovebird is just a newbie
There you go

[Sudowoodo]

alisae loves turds

[Sudowoodo]

beeboy I just saecastically insulted all of our supre special discord!!

lmao u said the word sae

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Sudowoodo]

Okay, apparently Alisae's job in this magnificent hydra is to be the magical shitposting fairy of awesome.

Mine seems to be that of a bulldog.

E's convinced me to back down on Nico (and mastina) and leave them to eir. So let's get some fucking votes on Kokichi. Fucker's scum.

Wanking bastard fuckers

Pine

[Sudowoodo]

LLD and Claire also acceptable. Willing to negotiate on the order now that we've gamesolved

[Sudowoodo]

Reeeeeeeeee

(am i doing that right?)

[Sudowoodo]

Everyone associated with a Mason claim or soft has disavowed said claim. Kokichi is not a Mason, Nico and Mastina are not Masons.

Yes/no - do you have a power-related reason we should stop pursuing Kokichi? Please no more than a yes/no

[Sudowoodo]

@Mom: Alisae thought e saw Mason connections between you and Kokichi

I am approaching a near-violent level of frustration with Nico. A huge part of me wants to declare a "Lynch All Liars" fatwah against her, but Alisae is restraining me. I absolutely REFUSE to reward this style of anti-Town play. Don't get me wrong, I have my share of gambits and lies as Town. Most recently, I lied my ass off about the nature of my Vigilante powers in NY211. However, every single time I tell an untruth as Town, I weigh it against whether the truth will backfire into more problems. If it does, I avoid it. Town-lies should always serve to confuse or distract scum, not confuse and distract Town. I want Nico burned at the stake, just to be sure.

PE: We do not have an inno on Mastina. The alleged inno was based on the presumption of her being a Mason.* Alisae and I do not fully agree on our read of her yet, though I'm coming around to Mastina!Town. I'll soulread her eventually, don't fret.

*See? That would be an example of a positive Town lie. Assuming Nick to be above-board, it harms no one and benefits Town.

[Sudowoodo]

Nico*

Fucking autocorrect

[Sudowoodo]

okay and why is she still saying she knows you have an inno on her

pedit @Pine

I have no idea. Wishful thinking? Ask her.

[Sudowoodo]

I

Don't

Fucking

Know

Our role has no investigative aspect to it.

[Sudowoodo]

like what Im seeing here is

Sudowoodo: We have a N0 inno on mastina
mastina: Yeah, Sudowoodo have an inno on me and I am aware of it
Sudowoodo: Actually, we were lying, we don't have an inno
mastina: They do have an inno. I am still conftown.

The only way I can explain this is scum-mastina believing Sudo somehow got a (false) inno on them and playing off it

We said we had an inno based off Nico's now-suspect information. Mastina, regardless of alignment, takes the free pass.

I do not know why she's still insisting we have an inno. We don't.

What's complicated here?

[Sudowoodo]

Children, play nice.

[Sudowoodo]

The fact she's insisting?

How is it not bothering you?

@pine

Dude it DOES bother me. I just don't have an answer. It doesn't really make sense from either a Town!mastina or scum!mastina perspective. Mastina tends not to make rookie errors, so either she misunderstands something or I misunderstand something.

I'm not sure what you want from me here.

[Sudowoodo]

Why does it not make sense from a scum-mastina perspective?

...How WOULD it make sense?? She's insisting something about OUR powers which we've denied. It doesn't make sense from any perspective. However, my respect for mastina as a player is such that I assume she doesn't do stuff without a reason, which will likely become clear in time.

Drop this plz

[Sudowoodo]

Okay. Sorry but this game is cancer. It has 10 more pages every time I check and i am still going on reads in first 20 pages cause i havent been able to read the rest yet since I'm busy. I might have to replace out. I'll try to read tonight but doubtful I'll have time

Did someone say more spam?

[Sudowoodo]

I don’t know if this is as good a look for beeboy as originally thought

beeboy is lock clear

[Sudowoodo]

I was JUST about to post a hot take on how you weren’t a wolf with Kokichi

[Sudowoodo]

Claire how can you do this to me
You make me sad

[Sudowoodo]

Oh ok

[Sudowoodo]

I think Kokichi is a wolf pocketing you tbh

[Sudowoodo]

Like if you said "oh claire is scum because she did ___ and it's just like her meta" I'd be fine with that. You're calling me a wolf trying to lynch me because of me being blunt. That is top 3 dumbest reasons I've had for someone sring me.

I don’t care anymore

[Sudowoodo]

Oooooh...
UNVOTE:
I get it

[Sudowoodo]

Ok you two can be town now

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: Wis

In that case this game is um
Really easy.

[Sudowoodo]

Claire for prosperity you’re willing to bet the game on Kokichi being town aye?

[Sudowoodo]

{Cheeky, Claire, Kokichi, Bee, Yume, EDDIE CANE, Lovebird} These are locktown if there is a wolf here it is Yume.
The leftovers are {Redflavor, Wis, Mara, LLD, mastina} Wolfteam is in here most likely.

[Sudowoodo]

Redflavor Wis Mara?

[Sudowoodo]

Kay

[Sudowoodo]

Claire
Have you used mail yet?

[Sudowoodo]

Mhm.

Kay then I hope I'm not throwing cuz of u 2

--

I don’t know if this is as good a look for beeboy as originally thought

beeboy is lock clear

flimsy

everything about the beeboy + sudo interaction is terrible.

insert obligatory you're terrible at mafia

[Sudowoodo]

I mean he called me unethical and I did one of those things

[Sudowoodo]

As a wolf that is

[Sudowoodo]

these flimsy townreads and general poe's that contain 1 wolf max is silly

Eddie you need to put kts back in the basement again and lock him in there

[Sudowoodo]

Vote Wis
On a wolf flip Lynch redflavor

[Sudowoodo]

If Mastina and Nico are neighbors would Nico really be so naive to send that masonry message to alpine?

btw yes she would

[Sudowoodo]

yo ali show me how to block posts cause eddie and kts are aiding up the thread rn

Install tampermonkey (chrome extention)
Script is in alifun just replace the names with MOMOMEN
Plug in the script into tampermonkey
Done

[Sudowoodo]

(Check Alifun pins it should 100% be pinned)

[Sudowoodo]

Claire did you do it yet?
If so isn’t it wonderful.

[Sudowoodo]

Ikr
Its amazing

[Sudowoodo]

yknow what maria honestly i just spent 15 minutes consoling kts because you (and others) are being dumbasses, pricks, and various other insulting words i don't feel like thinking of so fuck off

oh...
Sry kts

[Sudowoodo]

I think i am going to stop playing mafia unless i’m purposely memeing tbh
I mostly just hate my own play and being always wrong and being incompetent

[Sudowoodo]

omg it really works where was this ages ago

you look like a happy girl who’s discovered a great power

[Sudowoodo]

Or rather i can never feel good about anything anymore

[Sudowoodo]

{Cheeky, Claire, Kokichi, Bee, Yume, EDDIE CANE, Lovebird} These are locktown if there is a wolf here it is Yume.
The leftovers are {Redflavor, Wis, Mara, LLD, mastina} Wolfteam is in here most likely.

Redflavor Wis Mara?

[Sudowoodo]

Wis in DRv3 and your only SK loss was town and his play is nothing like those games

[Sudowoodo]

Bee why should I not quit mafia

[Sudowoodo]

There are many things I think of when I think of town!Wis
One of them is not working together with people.

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: LLD

yawn.

VOTE: LLD

[Sudowoodo]

Bee why should I not quit mafia

Up to you I guess.
I took an 8 month break and I somehow got better at the game because of it.

If you have fun with it I wouldn't worry about read accuracy or scum win % it's just a game.

if anything i hate myself so...

[Sudowoodo]

And those thoughts are coming back into my mind ok I think that’s my que to actually sleep gnite

[Sudowoodo]

Alisae has explained eis flip on Kokichi and Clair. I believe it.

In light of this, I'm looking at LLD. RedFlavor's catch-up is looking stinky like NY211

[Sudowoodo]

I misunderstand something.

It would be this.

However, my respect for mastina as a player is such that I assume she doesn't do stuff without a reason, which will likely become clear in time.

It is also this.

10-4, good buddy.

Palisade mode engaged.

[Sudowoodo]

You continue treating me like you have a guilty on me when I have done nothing to warrant it

You know, there's an old EpicMafia saying which is usually laughed at for being ridiculous, but fuckit it needs to be said:

WHY ME = FRY ME.

Yeah, you're off-target, Almond

Redhead

[Sudowoodo]

Why would I self vote if I was Mason. This is why this game is cancer

Because it's cancer

Also fk u Claire I thought you two were Masons zzz

[Sudowoodo]

You still haven't answered my question, Wisdom.

p-edit: I am Alisae. Mastina is Pine/Alisae. Hence, we share alignment. And you have be as town. Ergo, she can't be scum.

Me and cheeky have the same flavour but we're not masons

[Sudowoodo]

tell wisdom why he's scum so he can tell you why you're wrong. it's how mafia works. not passive aggressive ego measuring.

What mafiascum games do you play where the latter isn't exactly how it works???

All of the good ones.

[Sudowoodo]

Bee and Sudo (at least 1 of the heads) are really good friends Eddie so I don't think it's really that awk considering it's coming from them. Don't know if you knew that I think you're bias with kokichi due to past shit. Mon I agree with you on. What's your take on mastina

i'm kts.

i also didn't know bee and sudo were friends, but in that case, i still think it's a pocketing attempt. like, if they were friends, sudo would be asking opinions in a different way. not only that, but they'd

actually consider the ideas presented.

it's like, why go through all that time asking beeboy to catchup without actually commenting or engaging with most of the stuff he's said? that's just useless and a waste of time for beeboy.

i just don't like ate. it's kind of prevalent on this site in a way i've never seen before, and it's starting to really wear me down.

mastina i think is town for reasons i might go into later.

bee why is this town?

[Sudowoodo]

Momomen is still town btw.
There read on me isn't faked as far as I can tell.

I still also think they are actively trying to sort people and shit.
Like they just seem obvious town.

Specifically why is the read on me faked

[Sudowoodo]

Or rather why is it not

[Sudowoodo]

I am pretty sure nico is town. But, not masons with mastina, just very very deeply pocketed by scum mastina.

See, the thing is, I really am not.

I was pocketed by scum!Skybird
I was pocketed by scum!Shiro

.....and you are telling me I learned nothing from those?

If so then X_X

Yes

[Sudowoodo]

I am pretty sure nico is town. But, not masons with mastina, just very very deeply pocketed by scum mastina.

This post is wolfy and mastina should just be left alone till day before lylo

[Sudowoodo]

I dont particularly think the post you quoted was scummy?

It's an agenda based read

[Sudowoodo]

Aka not natural bee

[Sudowoodo]

Aka not natural bee

I dont particularly think there is a solid agenda calling either of us scum. Neither of us get lynched.

the read isn’t natural because after kts was informed that we know each other really well he continues to try to justify it instead of taking in new information

[Sudowoodo]

I claimed privately to Cheeky btw
It only means something to Cheeky though.

[Sudowoodo]

Aka not natural bee

I dont particularly think there is a solid agenda calling either of us scum. Neither of us get lynched.

the read isn’t natural because after kts was informed that we know each other really well he continues to try to justify it instead of taking in new information

sorry does it come off as biased when i say this is entirely misconstrued and wolfy?

it comes off as agenda based and scummy

[Sudowoodo]

You mean to tell me there are

four

people who can conftown

mastina is fakeclaiming as always Yume is fakeclaiming when she specificly said earlier she wasn’t a mason there’s just 2 I’ve never seen 4 masons in my life

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: momo
Like bee look about how they’re talking about my slot its really scummy

[Sudowoodo]

Like are these interactions with me on this page really things that come from town
If so I’ll back off and go back to LLD but they don’t look like it.

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: momo
Like bee look about how they’re talking about my slot its really scummy

they realized that i, the glorious kts, have outted them. this is their only option.

oh fuck you

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky is probably town if I am a wolf

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky is probably town if I am a wolf

um

wut

[Sudowoodo]

Vote: Redflavour

stupid question
if you unvote and revote what happens

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky is probably town if I am a wolf

um

wut

i've only ever seen wolves say these type of things lol

i’ve only ever seen wolves turn every single possible post into a scumpost lol

[Sudowoodo]

neh youve seen me tunneling

my concerns are itt in fact on the last page you can go read them

[Sudowoodo]

Vote: Redflavour

stupid question
if you unvote and revote what happens

no clue, I'll try it for you, if you like

Unvote; Vote: Redflavour

basically if it takes you 48 hours to unvote that sounds like aids

[Sudowoodo]

Bee talks to me about my momo concerns
Then I move back to LLD

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky is probably town if I am a wolf

um

wut

i've only ever seen wolves say these type of things lol

i’ve only ever seen wolves turn every single possible post into a scumpost lol

my progression's been pretty real on you. for some reason, you can't handle being scumread lmao.

isn’t that an indication that you’re wrong?

[Sudowoodo]

LLD moving her precious vote onto that kind of wagon does make me more confident there

Apparently, there's a first time for everything, scrub.

Also, we are not voting Momo. Bad Alisae. Go watch some anime.

VOTE: LLD

This is the actual scum.

[Sudowoodo]

Fite me, LLD

[Sudowoodo]

I'll Rock Slide your feathery Moltres butt. 4x damage!

[Sudowoodo]

Pine LLD is a witch made out of cotton candy not a moltres

[Sudowoodo]

Pine TRs momo
Ali SRs momo

[Sudowoodo]

mastina, what're your thoughts on Nico? I'm not sure how I feel yet, and frankly yours is the read I'd trust the most.

I don't see any scum motivation whatsoever to Momomen claiming that role. If I'd been issued it, I'd have shut up and essentially flipped Town off from the grave.

So it's either a fakeclaim or Town truth.

LLD's plan to treat it as a Miller claim works for me.

Pine

[Sudowoodo]

I want you all to know this game started 2 days ago and you've already made this go in the 1700s
sweet jesus

This is like v3 game.

I wish it was like the v3 game, I felt alive in that fucking game. I felt like I could think and

GIVE A FUCK

in that fucking game.

I just need to wake the fuck up but I can't find the motivation or energy or desire to do any of it.

You really like swearing dont you

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Sudowoodo]

(Kokichi that’s me taking notice of your really good post)

[Sudowoodo]

Pine Is that also a contributing factor to your initial town read on Mastina?

Initial TR on Mastina was 100% the Mason claim.

I'm thinking weak Town n on her own merits though.

Red feels like they're jumping all over the place and trying to fit in as opposed to actually trying to make their mark. They feel more concerned with being seen as town than finding scum, and while town players want to be seen to be town, they need both motivations.

I don't see the later from him, and I think he's scum for it.

Shit, I actually agree with my scumread about another scumread.

Halp

VOTE: Wisdom

This is a bad vote. Stop it or we won't give you one of our cookies.

[Sudowoodo]

Really? Just nailed you in NY211. DO go on.

[Sudowoodo]

I don't see you trying here.

THE SHOE FITS

[Sudowoodo]

But she is right, we're not masons. I sent that message to them to test them. If they were really town, they would have discussed which of the 'mason' pairs were more likely, rather than jumping ship immediately upon seeing a new shiny info appears. They were looking for an opening to discredit us for quite a while, and they took it the moment it reared its head.

[Sudowoodo]

hmm let me think about how much I care about for a quick 5 seconds

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: Nico

[Sudowoodo]

Yeah Yume I'll believe mastina is ur mason buddy.

tbh I'm moreso voting you because I think keeping you at LyLo is a terrible terrible mistake with how this day played out.
I'll probably change it later if people talk me out of it.

[Sudowoodo]

This is Pine.

Ali did not discuss voting Nico with me.

But I would like to policy the fuck out of that player for being aids.

[Sudowoodo]

Excising the cancer that is Nico will help.

[Sudowoodo]

This is Pine.

Ali did not discuss voting Nico with me.

But I would like to policy the fuck out of that player for being aids.

Who would you vote if you weren't polycing?

You or LLD.

[Sudowoodo]

LLD, what's your read on me entirely seperate from my claim?

Well for starters, my read can't be separated from your claim. That's not how this works.

Viewing you aside from that...you're just as confused and haphazard as we are. Stumbling around this game hoping to hit on solid evidence. That supports the claim-based Town read.

[Sudowoodo]

We are a ridiculously bad vote. We have a mutually-confirming role (not Masons) with Cheeky.

[Sudowoodo]

VOTE: LLD

Wanting to policy Nico was essentially a rant about aids. A policy vig would be for great justice, but that's likely too much to hope for.

PE: Of course it is. Everyone gets pissy.

[Sudowoodo]

Pine saying nico is a policy lynch and me is not a policy is weird af. Its like he does not wanna admit his 2/3 lycnhes are policy

You are not a policy lynch.

Nico is the only one I want to policy, and I'm letting it go because they're like 95% Town.

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky and I have odd night/even night versions of the same beeboy role. We each know the other, and that we ourselves are Town. This role, which we both have, is of no utility to scum and only makes sense for Town. We are not Masons, and are technically not confirmed to each other, but Town/Town is the only conclusion that makes any sense.

Cheeky - do me a favor and don't reveal more than that.

[Sudowoodo]

No no.

Please don't vote Wisdom. He's Town, just tunneling. Knock it off.

[Sudowoodo]

I mean mods are commonly putting in those kind of roles as scum roles.
Especially if like another player in the game can confirm the existence of the role.

I really don't even think Cheeky is town for activity.

I just think she is town if you read and follow her posts.

This is not one of those roles. Our role *does not* make any sense for scum. It has zero utility to them.

Please just trust me on this, and don't make me hint any more.

[Sudowoodo]

Cheeky and I have odd night/even night versions of the same beeboy role. We each know the other, and that we ourselves are Town. This role, which we both have, is of no utility to scum and only makes sense for Town. We are not Masons, and are technically not confirmed to each other, but Town/Town is the only conclusion that makes any sense.

Cheeky - do me a favor and don't reveal more than that.

Even if it's of no utility it can be scum. Town has negative utility. You townreading each other off it to the pointing of fighting to prevent the lynch of the other is bs

It's not that kind of role.

Dude, stop fishing. I think you're Town, and this isn't a pro-Town fishing expedition.

[Sudowoodo]

That's Town!Mastina.

It's nice to finally have some goddamn truth.

Mastina, control your partner.

[Sudowoodo]

Fuck it

I've been holding Alisae back regarding Wis for long enough. E's had a wolfread on Wis for a while.

Mastina's case convinces me.

VOTE: Wisdom

Palisade mode engaged, fren.

[Sudowoodo]

I TR Cheeky's play
Pine cares about the role imo

tbh I only told her because I trust her and had a hunch that we had similar roles imo.

[Sudowoodo]

And now you see it, Bee.

I hate you

[Sudowoodo]

Wow...it's kind of impressive how many strawman arguments Wis packed into the last two pages.

[Sudowoodo]

If you all could suck less, I'd appreciate it.

Scumplainer Wis first, then {LLD, Kokichi, MariaR} Alisae was giving the latter two a pass when e was Mason-reading them, but that's not a thing.

[Sudowoodo]

Ali can make strong scumposts?

So can Pine, you wanker.

Go away interfere with a Mareep.

[Sudowoodo]

Obviously.

Hush now.

Nico, I'd actually prefer if you didn't answer any more questions for a little while.

Trust me here.

I just remembered that fucking multiquote doesn’t work on mobile fuck me.
The only reads I have atm are Wis town and
VOTE: LLD
^^That^^

Fucking kill me

Wis is it because I got you to TR me twice as a wolf
Because those feelings get into your head when that happens

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

She stopped pushing him

does that really change the nature of the push?

—

Honestly
The most wolfy person is the one that is pushing EDDIE CANE for their claim
So can we lynch that please, because its a really scummy push
Ty <3

But I'm not?

My initial reaction was that Eddie was scum, and then we talked about it... and now we have a better understanding of how we should play around the claim.

honestly, the way you backed out of it seems like how a wolf would back out of a push it feels too much like trying to maintain a solid push rather then a push that’s right

you are Pine and Alisae, so I cannot believe you are saying this with a straight face.

I don't back down from pushes... like... ever.

This was a scenario where the more I talked it out and considered everything, the more I felt my gut reaction was incorrect and chose to pick a different path. I still feel like my analysis of the likelyhood of things being put in this game was ok, but I also feel like my plan solves my concerns and I'm MORE than happy to give people rope to work with when they agree to be slated for death?

ik it feels wolfy and unnatural I'm sorry

The thing is, when youre pushing your read, you dont think of all that
I insist on this because i often push unpopular reads and its rare ill back down even if people come up with the most logical arguments
So you getting convinced and backing down there feels unnatural

what really annoys me is generally you'd be right, but my vote restriction and other stuff kind of force/make me want to play slightly differently?

Mechanically, this made more sense, and my only scum inclination on Eddie WAS the claim at the time.

I got what I wanted from it (reactions from Eddie and players around Eddie, a deal that people should follow because it makes sense to counteract the negatives of Eddie's role claim, conversation on why I felt that role was scummy) and then decided there wasn't anything else there that couldn't be solved with this plan.

I've been doing this recently, where I take players with claims like that and give them ultimatuum on "time to live" and it's like: Perform well or die?

So um
am I going crazy or does this read as dishonest to anyone? Because it reads as dishonest to me.

tbh the fact that I wolfread LLD is making me think I'm crazy but if wis and Cheeky share my concern maybe its not just me.

Things like this? If you want me to go through each one individually and explain why I felt it was :goodposting: I can.

A third of those are Pine, FYI.

Sudo you should also say who you're passing to just before day end incase you're NK.

We haven't discussed it, but I was thinking you, fren.

[Sudowoodo]

We haven't discussed it, but I was thinking you, fren.

Any attempts to give me stuff gets refunded apparently.

Hmm. I was under the impression it would only matter if we were given back something we'd handed out.

In that case, one of the Masons. Bee, maybe. Fitting.

[Sudowoodo]

@Mod: Immediate emergency V/LA. Lady Pine and I about to leave for the hospital to welcome baby Pinecone! Yayyyy! I may or may not check in over the next couple of days, depending on how often I can/need to take a break from being a new dad. Posting should stabilize over the next week or so.

Break out the cigars!

[Sudowoodo]

Update: Home from the hospital, baby not quite ready yet. V/LA not rescinded, we could be headed back at practically any time, likely within the next 36 hours.

Full updates in the Speakeasy.

[Sudowoodo]

I'm not a wolf I don't really care to defendself or post tbh so I'ma just lurk out bye pce.

[Sudowoodo]

Wis wolf
Kokichi wolf
Claire wolf
bye

[Sudowoodo]

Also Eddie remind me to avoid KTS later ty.

[Sudowoodo]

vote mom/red if you wanna live.

I rather die tbh.